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Leipzig research #germany

Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi list,
I am trying to find information on a branch of my family that came from
Prague to Leipzig at the beginning of the last century.

My grandmother's cousin Ernst LANG was born in Prague and died in Prague
in 1918 where he and his wife Sophie Lang nee BOCK are also buried.
One of their children Lota was born in Leipzig in 1909. She married
someone called Taus(s)ig, I thought in Prague, but got the information
from the archives there that she couldn't be found in the marriage registers.
My questions: How can I find when and how long the LANG and TAUSSIG
families lived in Leipzig? Are there registers or other sources that
might help me? Any suuggestion are welcome. Thank you in advance

Peter Zimmer Muenster Germany <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>

German SIG #Germany Leipzig research #germany

Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi list,
I am trying to find information on a branch of my family that came from
Prague to Leipzig at the beginning of the last century.

My grandmother's cousin Ernst LANG was born in Prague and died in Prague
in 1918 where he and his wife Sophie Lang nee BOCK are also buried.
One of their children Lota was born in Leipzig in 1909. She married
someone called Taus(s)ig, I thought in Prague, but got the information
from the archives there that she couldn't be found in the marriage registers.
My questions: How can I find when and how long the LANG and TAUSSIG
families lived in Leipzig? Are there registers or other sources that
might help me? Any suuggestion are welcome. Thank you in advance

Peter Zimmer Muenster Germany <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>

Re: Schwarzenberg #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

Dominique Dubois wrote to Austria-Czech SIG on May 16th asking for
information about a female member of the SCHWARZENBERG family, who secretly
organised help for Jewish families, mainly in the form of distributing
money.

My cousin Annie Weich knew Colienne Meran nee Schwarzenberg >from the time
when Annie's father was a diplomat in Italy and Colienne's father was the
Austrian ambassador in Rome over the same period. She wrote to Colienne who
did not know herself but enquired of other members of her family.
Colienne has now responded and writes (I have permission to quote >from her
email):

" ...finalement j'ai recu une reponse de mon neveu Kary Schwarzenberg au
sujet de la dame en question. Voila ce qu'il ecrit: "ich glaube es handelt
sich um Tante Elli (Prinzessin Eleonore Schwarzenberg, 1904-1984), die
damals sehr engagiert war und mit der ebenfalls verstorbenen Graefin
Kielmannsegg in Verbindung stand. Mehr kann ich dazu leider nicht sagen.
Tante Annie (celle que je t'avais nomme) war ja, soviel ich weiss, bereits
in London. "J'ai bien connu Tante Elli, une soeur de Josef et de Heinrich
Schwarzenberg. Elle ne s'est jamais marie, etait tres intelligente et
perspicace et a habite au palais Schwarzenberg jusqu'au sa mort......"

This translates roughly as:

"......I have at last received a reply >from my nephew Kary Schwarzenburg
regarding the lady in question. He writes "I believe this matter relates to
Aunt Elli (Prinzess Eleonore Schwarzenberg, 1904 - 1984)who was then very
committed and connected with Countess Kielmannsegg who is also deceased.
Unfortunately I can't really add anything. Aunt Annie (for that was what I
called her) was, as far as I know, already in London." "I knew Aunt Elli, a
sister of Josef and Heinrich Schwarzenberg, well. She never married, was
very intelligent and perspicacious and lived in the Palais Schwarzenburg up
until her death....."

I do hope this gives Dominique some useful leads.

Ruth Coman
London, UK
SALUS, Bohemia
SCHUESSLER, Kolodeje nad Luznici, Wien, Trieste;
LOEWY, Kolodeje nad Luznici, Kolin;
MELZER, Zatec;
MOC,MOTZ, Bohemia

Orla, Lida District 18th century records #belarus

GDLProject@...
 

Dear Belarus researchers,

Some information for those of you who don't know about the Grand Duchy of
Lithuania Project. We have acquired all of the GDL 1784, and some 1765,
records for all of what is today Lithuania and most of Belarus. This amounts to
more than 2500 pages of census records. We are in the process of transliterating
the names, and in some cases, occupations, of these kahals, mostly with the
assistance of volunteer researchers. We are also working on translating the
kahal and sub-kahal introductions and Hebrew signatures at the end of each
census.

We have the records for Orla, in the Lida district, which was a "small town"
in 1784, with 48 people in 16 families living in the shtetl itself, and 27
people in 10 families with people living in the surrounding taverns. The
census lists heads of households, names of wives and children.

The main obstacle to tracing your ancestors back into the 18th century
Polish-Lithuanian records, is that Jews generally had no surnames in the sense
that they did in the 19th century. They used patronymics and sometimes
occupations (Chaim the tailor). Even for famous rabbinical families which had used
surnames for more than a century by this time, these surnames were infrequently
used on censuses. On the plus side is the fact that many researchers have
been able to identify their families with surnames, on early Russian Empire
revision lists (1795, 1816) and on early vital records, including Jewish
records for entire towns, extracted >from Catholic registers. Frequently, families
who operated karchmas (taverns and inns), eventually took those place names as
their surnames when Jews were required to begin using them early in the 19th
century.

As phases of the project are completed, after the records have been
distributed to supporters, they will be donated to JewishGen, and to the relevant
SIGs. We are already linking to several Belarus research groups. The early Byten
and Mir records on the Belarus website are linked to the GDL website (where
these records will appear very soon).

For more information about what kahals, and towns for which we have records,
consult our website's alphabetical listing of towns. There are a number of
maps, including 18th century maps for each district, that can be enlarged.
There are also maps using Mr. SID technology, that allow you to select areas of
maps and greatly enlarge them.

We will be giving a talk on an overview and analysis of the entire GDL
census at the Las Vegas Conference on Monday at 5 PM, and will also make a very
short presentation at the Belarus Luncheon. At this luncheon we plan to
describe the Belarus census lists and transliteration projects underway.

For more information, please consult our website, which will be changing
significantly over the next few weeks, with the first addition of translated
data.

www.jewishfamilyhistory.org

David and Sonia Hoffman
Jewish Family History Foundation
Grand Duchy Project

Call for Papers #germany

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

The Israel Genealogical Society is pleased to invite proposals >from
potential speakers for the First Annual One Day Seminar on Jewish
Genealogy. The seminar will be held on Monday, 28 November 2005 at
Beit Hatefutzot, Tel Aviv. The official language of the seminar will
be Hebrew, but presentations will be made in English as well. The
seminar is entitled:

FAMILY ROOTS IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND IN THE WORLD

The emphasis of this study day will be to introduce researchers to
new, possibly unknown resources.

For further details in English, please go to this site:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/yy2005-E-KK.html

The Hebrew details are in an automatically downloaded .pdf file at this URL:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/SeminarCall2005-H.pdf

We look forward to your presentation proposals!

Martha Lev-Zion for the Projects Coordinating Committee
Israel Genealogical Society

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Schwarzenberg #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

Dominique Dubois wrote to Austria-Czech SIG on May 16th asking for
information about a female member of the SCHWARZENBERG family, who secretly
organised help for Jewish families, mainly in the form of distributing
money.

My cousin Annie Weich knew Colienne Meran nee Schwarzenberg >from the time
when Annie's father was a diplomat in Italy and Colienne's father was the
Austrian ambassador in Rome over the same period. She wrote to Colienne who
did not know herself but enquired of other members of her family.
Colienne has now responded and writes (I have permission to quote >from her
email):

" ...finalement j'ai recu une reponse de mon neveu Kary Schwarzenberg au
sujet de la dame en question. Voila ce qu'il ecrit: "ich glaube es handelt
sich um Tante Elli (Prinzessin Eleonore Schwarzenberg, 1904-1984), die
damals sehr engagiert war und mit der ebenfalls verstorbenen Graefin
Kielmannsegg in Verbindung stand. Mehr kann ich dazu leider nicht sagen.
Tante Annie (celle que je t'avais nomme) war ja, soviel ich weiss, bereits
in London. "J'ai bien connu Tante Elli, une soeur de Josef et de Heinrich
Schwarzenberg. Elle ne s'est jamais marie, etait tres intelligente et
perspicace et a habite au palais Schwarzenberg jusqu'au sa mort......"

This translates roughly as:

"......I have at last received a reply >from my nephew Kary Schwarzenburg
regarding the lady in question. He writes "I believe this matter relates to
Aunt Elli (Prinzess Eleonore Schwarzenberg, 1904 - 1984)who was then very
committed and connected with Countess Kielmannsegg who is also deceased.
Unfortunately I can't really add anything. Aunt Annie (for that was what I
called her) was, as far as I know, already in London." "I knew Aunt Elli, a
sister of Josef and Heinrich Schwarzenberg, well. She never married, was
very intelligent and perspicacious and lived in the Palais Schwarzenburg up
until her death....."

I do hope this gives Dominique some useful leads.

Ruth Coman
London, UK
SALUS, Bohemia
SCHUESSLER, Kolodeje nad Luznici, Wien, Trieste;
LOEWY, Kolodeje nad Luznici, Kolin;
MELZER, Zatec;
MOC,MOTZ, Bohemia

Belarus SIG #Belarus Orla, Lida District 18th century records #belarus

GDLProject@...
 

Dear Belarus researchers,

Some information for those of you who don't know about the Grand Duchy of
Lithuania Project. We have acquired all of the GDL 1784, and some 1765,
records for all of what is today Lithuania and most of Belarus. This amounts to
more than 2500 pages of census records. We are in the process of transliterating
the names, and in some cases, occupations, of these kahals, mostly with the
assistance of volunteer researchers. We are also working on translating the
kahal and sub-kahal introductions and Hebrew signatures at the end of each
census.

We have the records for Orla, in the Lida district, which was a "small town"
in 1784, with 48 people in 16 families living in the shtetl itself, and 27
people in 10 families with people living in the surrounding taverns. The
census lists heads of households, names of wives and children.

The main obstacle to tracing your ancestors back into the 18th century
Polish-Lithuanian records, is that Jews generally had no surnames in the sense
that they did in the 19th century. They used patronymics and sometimes
occupations (Chaim the tailor). Even for famous rabbinical families which had used
surnames for more than a century by this time, these surnames were infrequently
used on censuses. On the plus side is the fact that many researchers have
been able to identify their families with surnames, on early Russian Empire
revision lists (1795, 1816) and on early vital records, including Jewish
records for entire towns, extracted >from Catholic registers. Frequently, families
who operated karchmas (taverns and inns), eventually took those place names as
their surnames when Jews were required to begin using them early in the 19th
century.

As phases of the project are completed, after the records have been
distributed to supporters, they will be donated to JewishGen, and to the relevant
SIGs. We are already linking to several Belarus research groups. The early Byten
and Mir records on the Belarus website are linked to the GDL website (where
these records will appear very soon).

For more information about what kahals, and towns for which we have records,
consult our website's alphabetical listing of towns. There are a number of
maps, including 18th century maps for each district, that can be enlarged.
There are also maps using Mr. SID technology, that allow you to select areas of
maps and greatly enlarge them.

We will be giving a talk on an overview and analysis of the entire GDL
census at the Las Vegas Conference on Monday at 5 PM, and will also make a very
short presentation at the Belarus Luncheon. At this luncheon we plan to
describe the Belarus census lists and transliteration projects underway.

For more information, please consult our website, which will be changing
significantly over the next few weeks, with the first addition of translated
data.

www.jewishfamilyhistory.org

David and Sonia Hoffman
Jewish Family History Foundation
Grand Duchy Project

German SIG #Germany Call for Papers #germany

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

The Israel Genealogical Society is pleased to invite proposals >from
potential speakers for the First Annual One Day Seminar on Jewish
Genealogy. The seminar will be held on Monday, 28 November 2005 at
Beit Hatefutzot, Tel Aviv. The official language of the seminar will
be Hebrew, but presentations will be made in English as well. The
seminar is entitled:

FAMILY ROOTS IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND IN THE WORLD

The emphasis of this study day will be to introduce researchers to
new, possibly unknown resources.

For further details in English, please go to this site:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/yy2005-E-KK.html

The Hebrew details are in an automatically downloaded .pdf file at this URL:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/SeminarCall2005-H.pdf

We look forward to your presentation proposals!

Martha Lev-Zion for the Projects Coordinating Committee
Israel Genealogical Society

INTRO - Seeking FALKENSTEIN - Montebauer Germany #germany

ddesign1@...
 

I am very new to geneology and will be attending the conference in Las Vegas
in July, 2005.
My maiden name was Eleanor FALKENSTEIN - My father's parents were Moses and Phina
FALKENSTEIN >from Montebauer, Germany.
My father had 2 brothers, Eric and Ludwig, and a sister, Alma
Through geneology done by Julian FALK I learned that the name was changed
from FEIST sometime ago.
My mother was Gertrude GOTTLIEB
She had a brother, Walter GOTTLIEB
Their parents were Joseph and Regina (Meyer) GOTTLIEB
They lived in Ebernberg, Germany

Perhaps I have confused the locations - it is possible that my father's
family was >from Ebernberg, and my mother's family was >from Montebauer.

E. Valerie Lapin born Eleanor FALKENSTEIN Henderson, Nevada

German SIG #Germany INTRO - Seeking FALKENSTEIN - Montebauer Germany #germany

ddesign1@...
 

I am very new to geneology and will be attending the conference in Las Vegas
in July, 2005.
My maiden name was Eleanor FALKENSTEIN - My father's parents were Moses and Phina
FALKENSTEIN >from Montebauer, Germany.
My father had 2 brothers, Eric and Ludwig, and a sister, Alma
Through geneology done by Julian FALK I learned that the name was changed
from FEIST sometime ago.
My mother was Gertrude GOTTLIEB
She had a brother, Walter GOTTLIEB
Their parents were Joseph and Regina (Meyer) GOTTLIEB
They lived in Ebernberg, Germany

Perhaps I have confused the locations - it is possible that my father's
family was >from Ebernberg, and my mother's family was >from Montebauer.

E. Valerie Lapin born Eleanor FALKENSTEIN Henderson, Nevada

Mormon FHC - thanks! #germany

Judith Goldsmith <judithgoldsmith@...>
 

Many thanks to Marny Janson, Irene Newhouse, Richard Levinson, Leonard
Lobred, Lisa Dashman, Harriet Mayer, Hanna Grossman, Marion Hattenbach
Bernstein, Marian Price, and Donn Devine
who all basically said the same thing as Donn Devine:

1. Use the online catalog first, starting with the place search.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/
supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0

2. Take the information you get >from that to your local FHC and order
those microfilms.

It was pointed out that only in Salt Lake City is there a Family
History Library. ll the others are called Family History Centers.

An additional valuable warning came >from Marion Hattenbach Bernstein:
"When I first started research, I looked under Hesse in their files,
and was startled not to find Kassel! Turns out they put the
principality of Hessen (Hessen-Darmstadt) under Hessen and Hesse-Nassau
under Prussia."

So widen your search area if you can't find something you know to exist.

It was also noted that some towns refused to have their records
micofilmed by the FHL, so if you don't find anything in the catalog,
records may still exist. You may still have to go to/ contact Germany
for the information.

Thanks to all who sent their helpful suggestions.
I have found something for all four towns I tried, and look forward to
trying more!

Judith Goldsmith Oakland, California, USA

Hesse Links page --
http://www.well.com/~mareev/genealogy/hesse_links.html

German SIG #Germany Mormon FHC - thanks! #germany

Judith Goldsmith <judithgoldsmith@...>
 

Many thanks to Marny Janson, Irene Newhouse, Richard Levinson, Leonard
Lobred, Lisa Dashman, Harriet Mayer, Hanna Grossman, Marion Hattenbach
Bernstein, Marian Price, and Donn Devine
who all basically said the same thing as Donn Devine:

1. Use the online catalog first, starting with the place search.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/
supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0

2. Take the information you get >from that to your local FHC and order
those microfilms.

It was pointed out that only in Salt Lake City is there a Family
History Library. ll the others are called Family History Centers.

An additional valuable warning came >from Marion Hattenbach Bernstein:
"When I first started research, I looked under Hesse in their files,
and was startled not to find Kassel! Turns out they put the
principality of Hessen (Hessen-Darmstadt) under Hessen and Hesse-Nassau
under Prussia."

So widen your search area if you can't find something you know to exist.

It was also noted that some towns refused to have their records
micofilmed by the FHL, so if you don't find anything in the catalog,
records may still exist. You may still have to go to/ contact Germany
for the information.

Thanks to all who sent their helpful suggestions.
I have found something for all four towns I tried, and look forward to
trying more!

Judith Goldsmith Oakland, California, USA

Hesse Links page --
http://www.well.com/~mareev/genealogy/hesse_links.html

Re: Using the Mormon FHL #germany

A & B Algaze <Algaze@...>
 

Judith Goldsmith wrote:
"Can anyone who has had success using the FHL make suggestions
for what I should look for at the library, and how to find the materials
there that might help? Thanks"

To see what resources are available at the Mormon
Family History Library, go to their web site at:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

this will get you to the search engine for their library catalogue.

On the right hand side, click on to: "Place Search"
It will give you a screen that says:

Place: __________
Part of: ___________

Write in the name of the town and the name of the country
you are researching. You will get the results of all of the
resources that they have for that location.

Please note, unlike doing a search on JewishGen, you do
not necessarily have to know the present name of the town
or the country in which the town is presently located. Some
of their resources are catalogued under the original town
and country name. Try it both ways. I hope that helps.

Barbara Algaze Los Angeles, California Algaze@...

German SIG #Germany Re: Using the Mormon FHL #germany

A & B Algaze <Algaze@...>
 

Judith Goldsmith wrote:
"Can anyone who has had success using the FHL make suggestions
for what I should look for at the library, and how to find the materials
there that might help? Thanks"

To see what resources are available at the Mormon
Family History Library, go to their web site at:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

this will get you to the search engine for their library catalogue.

On the right hand side, click on to: "Place Search"
It will give you a screen that says:

Place: __________
Part of: ___________

Write in the name of the town and the name of the country
you are researching. You will get the results of all of the
resources that they have for that location.

Please note, unlike doing a search on JewishGen, you do
not necessarily have to know the present name of the town
or the country in which the town is presently located. Some
of their resources are catalogued under the original town
and country name. Try it both ways. I hope that helps.

Barbara Algaze Los Angeles, California Algaze@...

Are you attending the Conference? #ukraine

Freya <freyab@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Please let us know if you will be attending the conference in Las Vegas.
Be sure to bring some ideas with you - we'll be asking for them!


Freya Blitstein Maslov
FREYAB@...
Ukraine Co-Moderator

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Are you attending the Conference? #ukraine

Freya <freyab@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Please let us know if you will be attending the conference in Las Vegas.
Be sure to bring some ideas with you - we'll be asking for them!


Freya Blitstein Maslov
FREYAB@...
Ukraine Co-Moderator

Vasilishki metrical books #belarus

Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

Dear Byelarus Siggers,
I noticed that the FHL has "Metrical Books 1897-1899", giving death records
for the Jewish community in Vasilishki. I am considering ordering the film
through my local FHL -- my Russian skills are rusty -- but would like to
know if anyone has used this resource and can explain to me what to expect?

Thanks in advance.
Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
New York
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies.

Belarus SIG #Belarus Vasilishki metrical books #belarus

Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

Dear Byelarus Siggers,
I noticed that the FHL has "Metrical Books 1897-1899", giving death records
for the Jewish community in Vasilishki. I am considering ordering the film
through my local FHL -- my Russian skills are rusty -- but would like to
know if anyone has used this resource and can explain to me what to expect?

Thanks in advance.
Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
New York
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies.

various rankings for Jews #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I came across this when I translated the following document about
Income Tax Collected >from the Jews as Decided by the Ministry of
Interior for the Year1883 which dealt with the "Box Tax and Candle
Tax" of the communities.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/taxes.html
Some fellow genners helped me find the following materials about
the guild status.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/guild.html

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK Litin & Kalinovka Ukraine
EPSTEIN, BOYARKSY Ruzhany, Kossovo, Mscibow Belarus
TREPPER, TREPMAN, FELDMAN, LICHT, SOICHER, SLOVIK, SZPERBER,
ORENSTEIN Warsaw Poland

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine various rankings for Jews #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I came across this when I translated the following document about
Income Tax Collected >from the Jews as Decided by the Ministry of
Interior for the Year1883 which dealt with the "Box Tax and Candle
Tax" of the communities.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/taxes.html
Some fellow genners helped me find the following materials about
the guild status.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/guild.html

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK Litin & Kalinovka Ukraine
EPSTEIN, BOYARKSY Ruzhany, Kossovo, Mscibow Belarus
TREPPER, TREPMAN, FELDMAN, LICHT, SOICHER, SLOVIK, SZPERBER,
ORENSTEIN Warsaw Poland