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In search of the KAHN Family #germany

David Chaim <compaydavid@...>
 

Hello,
I have discovered that my grandmother was German. Her
name was Johana KAHN. She was born in Kirf, Germany
in the year 1896. Herman KAHN and Mina KAHN were her
parents. I am trying to find more information on
Mina Kahn to get the family tree updated. Brothers
and sisters of Johana KAHN, marriage certificates,
etc. will be more than useful.
If you can help me, please write me at this address or
ask for my postal address.

David Chaim Willcox, AZ





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German SIG #Germany In search of the KAHN Family #germany

David Chaim <compaydavid@...>
 

Hello,
I have discovered that my grandmother was German. Her
name was Johana KAHN. She was born in Kirf, Germany
in the year 1896. Herman KAHN and Mina KAHN were her
parents. I am trying to find more information on
Mina Kahn to get the family tree updated. Brothers
and sisters of Johana KAHN, marriage certificates,
etc. will be more than useful.
If you can help me, please write me at this address or
ask for my postal address.

David Chaim Willcox, AZ





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tombstone translation thanks Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:09:24 -0500 #germany

Dottie Miller
 

I am so grateful to the many people >from all over "jewishgen-land" who
rushed to offer help! Thank you to each and every one of you!!!!!

The translation confirmed a hypothesis and thus linked a fairly recently
found branch of GUGGENHEIMERS >from Ihringen, Germany, to my GUGGENHEIMER
tree at the year 1800.

Dottie Miller San Antonio, TX USA


German SIG #Germany tombstone translation thanks Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:09:24 -0500 #germany

Dottie Miller
 

I am so grateful to the many people >from all over "jewishgen-land" who
rushed to offer help! Thank you to each and every one of you!!!!!

The translation confirmed a hypothesis and thus linked a fairly recently
found branch of GUGGENHEIMERS >from Ihringen, Germany, to my GUGGENHEIMER
tree at the year 1800.

Dottie Miller San Antonio, TX USA


Galaz or Gataz? - VM6120 #poland

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I would like to know if any of the signatures on this Polish birth
certificate have the surname Galaz or Gataz. There is a discrepancy about
the name. It's listed as Galaz but I'm not so sure. It is in either Hebrew
or Yiddish and can be viewed at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6120

Please respond privately.

Thank you.

Jackye Sullins
jsullins@san.rr.com


JRI Poland #Poland Galaz or Gataz? - VM6120 #poland

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I would like to know if any of the signatures on this Polish birth
certificate have the surname Galaz or Gataz. There is a discrepancy about
the name. It's listed as Galaz but I'm not so sure. It is in either Hebrew
or Yiddish and can be viewed at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6120

Please respond privately.

Thank you.

Jackye Sullins
jsullins@san.rr.com


SCHWARZENBERG Family #austria-czech

K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
 

My step-Father's great grandfather was Cantor Josef ZIPPER, born ca.1832,
possibly in Zbaraz, Galicia. Cantor Zipper died in Vienna on 23rd November
1884 and is buried in Zentralfriedhof, Tor 1, 5b 9 43. The family moved
from Galicia to Vienna possibly some time in the late 1850s or later.
Cantor Zipper's children were born >from about 1858/9 to the mid-1870s.

Cantor Zipper was married three times and had 11 children with these three
wives. The names and fates of six of these 11 children and their
descendants are not known.

The names of Cantor Zipper's first two wives are not known, but according
to a letter >from the late renowned Dr. Herbert Zipper, his paternal
grandmother, Cantor Zipper's third wife was
Franziska/Fanny SCHWARZENBERG ZIPPER - the daughter of a Hungarian Rabbi,
B. Hungary? ca.1838? D. Vienna ? ca.1927??

One of her daughters, Charlotte/Carlotta Zipper, born Vienna 1873,
moved >from Vienna to Merano in northern Italy and lived there with one of
her brothers, Hermann Zipper, who died in Merano in 1940. Charlotte was
one of the handful of people who were dragged >from their beds in Merano and
deported to Auschwitz, via Balzano, where she perished.

Liliana Picciotto's Italian Book of Remembrance "Il Libro della Memoria,
Gli Ebrei Deportati dall "Italia" recorded her parents as 'GUISEPPE and
FRANZISKA nee SCHWEIZENBERG' not SCHWARZENBURG.

I am sorry I do not know any more about the SCHWARZENBERG family, but
perhaps this might be of interest to the other SCHWARZENBERG researchers.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder
Researching >from Vienna : Family of my Step-Father :
ZIPPER/SCHILLER/STEINER &WEISS/RECHT/EHRLICH/FRIEDMANN Zbaraz,
Galicia/Bohemia/Vienna/Shanghai/Italy/Canada/USA/Australia.
Family of my step-Grandfather :
GOLD, FUCHS Papa,Hungary/Vienna>London/DUNERA/Australia/USA.
GOLD-RADAN & GOLD-SCHWARZ Vienna/Zagreb>Calestano, Italy.

N.B. Families of my step-Father and step-GF are not related.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech SCHWARZENBERG Family #austria-czech

K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
 

My step-Father's great grandfather was Cantor Josef ZIPPER, born ca.1832,
possibly in Zbaraz, Galicia. Cantor Zipper died in Vienna on 23rd November
1884 and is buried in Zentralfriedhof, Tor 1, 5b 9 43. The family moved
from Galicia to Vienna possibly some time in the late 1850s or later.
Cantor Zipper's children were born >from about 1858/9 to the mid-1870s.

Cantor Zipper was married three times and had 11 children with these three
wives. The names and fates of six of these 11 children and their
descendants are not known.

The names of Cantor Zipper's first two wives are not known, but according
to a letter >from the late renowned Dr. Herbert Zipper, his paternal
grandmother, Cantor Zipper's third wife was
Franziska/Fanny SCHWARZENBERG ZIPPER - the daughter of a Hungarian Rabbi,
B. Hungary? ca.1838? D. Vienna ? ca.1927??

One of her daughters, Charlotte/Carlotta Zipper, born Vienna 1873,
moved >from Vienna to Merano in northern Italy and lived there with one of
her brothers, Hermann Zipper, who died in Merano in 1940. Charlotte was
one of the handful of people who were dragged >from their beds in Merano and
deported to Auschwitz, via Balzano, where she perished.

Liliana Picciotto's Italian Book of Remembrance "Il Libro della Memoria,
Gli Ebrei Deportati dall "Italia" recorded her parents as 'GUISEPPE and
FRANZISKA nee SCHWEIZENBERG' not SCHWARZENBURG.

I am sorry I do not know any more about the SCHWARZENBERG family, but
perhaps this might be of interest to the other SCHWARZENBERG researchers.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder
Researching >from Vienna : Family of my Step-Father :
ZIPPER/SCHILLER/STEINER &WEISS/RECHT/EHRLICH/FRIEDMANN Zbaraz,
Galicia/Bohemia/Vienna/Shanghai/Italy/Canada/USA/Australia.
Family of my step-Grandfather :
GOLD, FUCHS Papa,Hungary/Vienna>London/DUNERA/Australia/USA.
GOLD-RADAN & GOLD-SCHWARZ Vienna/Zagreb>Calestano, Italy.

N.B. Families of my step-Father and step-GF are not related.


Lostice Moravia June 17 2005 #austria-czech

Vitdoc@...
 

At 4 PM in the afternoon on Friday, June 17, 2005, the CZ organization
Respect and Tolerance and the town of Lostice will welcome Congregation Hakafa >from
Glencoe, Illinois, USA. Congregation Hakafa will bring with them the Torah
that once belonged to the Jewish Community of Lostice and they will read >from it.
This will be the first such worship service since the Nazi occupation. There
will be a concert and the presentation of benches to remember those who once
prayed in this temple and a service by conducted by Rabbi Bruce Elder.
Please let me know privately if you will be in the Lostice area at this time
and are interested in attending. Saturday at 5 PM there will be a tour of
castle Bouzov and the opening of the exhibition: Remembering Jewish Families with
Jewish music by a violin trio >from Ireland playing Jewish music.
Susan Boyer
Sherman Oaks CA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Lostice Moravia June 17 2005 #austria-czech

Vitdoc@...
 

At 4 PM in the afternoon on Friday, June 17, 2005, the CZ organization
Respect and Tolerance and the town of Lostice will welcome Congregation Hakafa >from
Glencoe, Illinois, USA. Congregation Hakafa will bring with them the Torah
that once belonged to the Jewish Community of Lostice and they will read >from it.
This will be the first such worship service since the Nazi occupation. There
will be a concert and the presentation of benches to remember those who once
prayed in this temple and a service by conducted by Rabbi Bruce Elder.
Please let me know privately if you will be in the Lostice area at this time
and are interested in attending. Saturday at 5 PM there will be a tour of
castle Bouzov and the opening of the exhibition: Remembering Jewish Families with
Jewish music by a violin trio >from Ireland playing Jewish music.
Susan Boyer
Sherman Oaks CA


Searching: NOWAK #general

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Dear Genners -

This is an attempt to ferret out some information on my
great-great-grandfather's siblings.

My gggf David NOWAK was born somewhere in Moravia, died in 1879 and is
buried in Uhersky Brod in CZ. He had a son Moritz, who was born in or near
Uhersky Hradiste in 1835 and died in Vienna in 1916.

Moritz married Amalie WOLF in Loschitz (Lostice) and had four children:
Oskar (my grandfather), Ernestine, who died young, Ida, who was probably
murdered in Steinhof mental hospital by the nazis, and Hugo, who apparently
became an actor and nothing more is known about him.

So much I know, but David had two other sons, Jakob and Heinrich, about whom
I know virtually nothing.

Jakob married Marie ? and had children: Amalie, who married a man surnamed
FLESCH, and Ernestine, who I know nothing about. There was also another son
or daughter.

Heinrich married, although I don't know his wife's name, and had a son
Arthur. Arthur married Lotte KOHN.

That's all I know. Can anyone throw any light on the missing Nowaks?

Shalom

Robert Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Searching:
NOWAK - Moravia, Austria/Vienna - >
EISINGER - Moravia - >
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia, Poland
NAGEL - Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: NOWAK #general

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Dear Genners -

This is an attempt to ferret out some information on my
great-great-grandfather's siblings.

My gggf David NOWAK was born somewhere in Moravia, died in 1879 and is
buried in Uhersky Brod in CZ. He had a son Moritz, who was born in or near
Uhersky Hradiste in 1835 and died in Vienna in 1916.

Moritz married Amalie WOLF in Loschitz (Lostice) and had four children:
Oskar (my grandfather), Ernestine, who died young, Ida, who was probably
murdered in Steinhof mental hospital by the nazis, and Hugo, who apparently
became an actor and nothing more is known about him.

So much I know, but David had two other sons, Jakob and Heinrich, about whom
I know virtually nothing.

Jakob married Marie ? and had children: Amalie, who married a man surnamed
FLESCH, and Ernestine, who I know nothing about. There was also another son
or daughter.

Heinrich married, although I don't know his wife's name, and had a son
Arthur. Arthur married Lotte KOHN.

That's all I know. Can anyone throw any light on the missing Nowaks?

Shalom

Robert Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Searching:
NOWAK - Moravia, Austria/Vienna - >
EISINGER - Moravia - >
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia, Poland
NAGEL - Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia


The "legalese" in petitions, etc. #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Hi Genners,

If you're like I am, when you finally get the various application papers for
Citizenship, you pour over the hand-written words to find out who came >from where,
usually skipping over the legalese.

Last night after I was double-checking one of two sets sent to my by NARA of my GF's
paper to see which one may be my GF's something in one caught my eye (briefly the
heading): District Court of the US/Southern District/NY wherein they were referring
to the matter of the application to be admitted a citizen of the USA. First time I
had seen this.

The paragraph that caught my eye:

"The above-named applicant, being over twenty-one years of age, hereby petitions to
be admitted to become a Citizen of the United States of America, and avers that he
arrived in the United States before he became eighteen years of age, and has ever
since resided therein."

How interesting that a separate government paper would be for over 21 when
petitioning and require under 18 when arriving.

Does anyone know why this particular requirement for over 21 and under 18 and how
long it was a requirement? One was dated 1899 and the other 1900.

Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx
and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The "legalese" in petitions, etc. #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Hi Genners,

If you're like I am, when you finally get the various application papers for
Citizenship, you pour over the hand-written words to find out who came >from where,
usually skipping over the legalese.

Last night after I was double-checking one of two sets sent to my by NARA of my GF's
paper to see which one may be my GF's something in one caught my eye (briefly the
heading): District Court of the US/Southern District/NY wherein they were referring
to the matter of the application to be admitted a citizen of the USA. First time I
had seen this.

The paragraph that caught my eye:

"The above-named applicant, being over twenty-one years of age, hereby petitions to
be admitted to become a Citizen of the United States of America, and avers that he
arrived in the United States before he became eighteen years of age, and has ever
since resided therein."

How interesting that a separate government paper would be for over 21 when
petitioning and require under 18 when arriving.

Does anyone know why this particular requirement for over 21 and under 18 and how
long it was a requirement? One was dated 1899 and the other 1900.

Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx
and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


Re: When your newfound relatives do not respond #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

Just had a somewhat similar experience. I contacted a researcher who
was searching the same name, and amazingly, it turned out he was related
on the side which married into my family. Since I was searching for
offspring of my grandfather's sister and her husband, and he was related
to the husband, I thought, for sure, he would be excited, especially
since I told him I knew for a fact one child was alive after the War,
and I suspected others might have survived as well, and I was trying to
find them and/or their families. After two emails to me, he upped and
disappeared, never answering any of my follow-up emails. He was so
convinced that the whole family had perished in Europe, you would have
thought he would have jumped at the chance of working with me. I had
information he did not have and vice versa. I was devastated, since he
held the key for me on this family, because he was in possession of a
lot of records >from the town. I held the key to the possible survivors.
I did take a chance, on the urging of some of the great people on this
discussion group, to email him once more, asking why he had not
responded, and suggesting that even if he did not want to hear >from me
again, to at least just say so, to tell me not to bug him anymore. Not
a word in response. I will never understand people, as I guess you
don't, either. Leslie Weinberg

VivianeCK2003@aol.com wrote:

Hi Fellow Genners:

We have exhausted the topic of "what to do when your fellow genner does not
say thank you...". I have a problem - I have found distant relatives who
live in my geographical area.

I have sent them two Passover cards. I have phoned them two times and left
messages on their voicemail.

Finally I sent them a legal style letter explaining who I am, who can
vouch for me and asking them to contact me via phone, email or
letter....Nothing.....!!!!

It has been two months now. I feel very rejected. If this happened to
me...and I was not interested, I would send them a line saying, thanks but
no thanks.... or make up some excuse....too busy, working too hard....but
thank them for their efforts.

I have found these people after the holocaust had flung my relatives all
over the place. Has this happened to any of you?
Do you have any advice?
Thanks!
Viviane Kluska
Canton, Michigan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: When your newfound relatives do not respond #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

Just had a somewhat similar experience. I contacted a researcher who
was searching the same name, and amazingly, it turned out he was related
on the side which married into my family. Since I was searching for
offspring of my grandfather's sister and her husband, and he was related
to the husband, I thought, for sure, he would be excited, especially
since I told him I knew for a fact one child was alive after the War,
and I suspected others might have survived as well, and I was trying to
find them and/or their families. After two emails to me, he upped and
disappeared, never answering any of my follow-up emails. He was so
convinced that the whole family had perished in Europe, you would have
thought he would have jumped at the chance of working with me. I had
information he did not have and vice versa. I was devastated, since he
held the key for me on this family, because he was in possession of a
lot of records >from the town. I held the key to the possible survivors.
I did take a chance, on the urging of some of the great people on this
discussion group, to email him once more, asking why he had not
responded, and suggesting that even if he did not want to hear >from me
again, to at least just say so, to tell me not to bug him anymore. Not
a word in response. I will never understand people, as I guess you
don't, either. Leslie Weinberg

VivianeCK2003@aol.com wrote:

Hi Fellow Genners:

We have exhausted the topic of "what to do when your fellow genner does not
say thank you...". I have a problem - I have found distant relatives who
live in my geographical area.

I have sent them two Passover cards. I have phoned them two times and left
messages on their voicemail.

Finally I sent them a legal style letter explaining who I am, who can
vouch for me and asking them to contact me via phone, email or
letter....Nothing.....!!!!

It has been two months now. I feel very rejected. If this happened to
me...and I was not interested, I would send them a line saying, thanks but
no thanks.... or make up some excuse....too busy, working too hard....but
thank them for their efforts.

I have found these people after the holocaust had flung my relatives all
over the place. Has this happened to any of you?
Do you have any advice?
Thanks!
Viviane Kluska
Canton, Michigan


Looking for ALTERESKO (ALTERESCU) #romania

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I am researching my grandmother's family. I was told that they were from
Bucharest, Romania. She was born about 1880. I have a cousin who is now 81
years old. She remembers that her mother (my grandmother's sister)
mentioned that they came >from a small city outside of Bucharest. I looked
on maps and found there was a city named Popesti-Leordeni. Is anyone
familiar with this city? I tried finding information about the city through
Google, but the web sites were in Romanian language. Can anyone help me
with finding out more info on Popesti? I would also like to know if
ALTERESKO (ALTERESCU) was a common name for that area.

Thank you for any help you can give me.
Regards,
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA
USA


Romania SIG #Romania Looking for ALTERESKO (ALTERESCU) #romania

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I am researching my grandmother's family. I was told that they were from
Bucharest, Romania. She was born about 1880. I have a cousin who is now 81
years old. She remembers that her mother (my grandmother's sister)
mentioned that they came >from a small city outside of Bucharest. I looked
on maps and found there was a city named Popesti-Leordeni. Is anyone
familiar with this city? I tried finding information about the city through
Google, but the web sites were in Romanian language. Can anyone help me
with finding out more info on Popesti? I would also like to know if
ALTERESKO (ALTERESCU) was a common name for that area.

Thank you for any help you can give me.
Regards,
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA
USA


OTTEMBERG/FILDERMANN...Roman #romania

Tania Mouraud <tania.mouraud@...>
 

I am searchin for my grand parents who came >from Romania. Leib
ROTTEMBERG and Risla FILDERMANN.
Their son Marcel migrated to France. He was born in 1906 in Roman.
I would like to know also if they had other children, their names nd
any news about this family.

Thanking you in advance

Tania Mouraud
47 rue Alexandre Dumas
75011 PARIS
06 20 51 88 19


Romania SIG #Romania OTTEMBERG/FILDERMANN...Roman #romania

Tania Mouraud <tania.mouraud@...>
 

I am searchin for my grand parents who came >from Romania. Leib
ROTTEMBERG and Risla FILDERMANN.
Their son Marcel migrated to France. He was born in 1906 in Roman.
I would like to know also if they had other children, their names nd
any news about this family.

Thanking you in advance

Tania Mouraud
47 rue Alexandre Dumas
75011 PARIS
06 20 51 88 19