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Re: Poland's Partitions and origin of the Jewish surnames #galicia

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlene" <mlbishow@mindspring.com>

My family names are DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM and KATZ. The first two
are obviouslu germanic, but KATZ is not. assuming that the KATZ
family was in Galicia after the edict and during the period of
enforcement, is it likely that the only way that they could get
away with using that name, was by paying a bribe?

I have been told that KATZ is a relatively unusual name for
Galicia. Any comments?
Isaac HABER, probably the first son of my Great Grandfather Akiwa
HABER married Rose (Raizel) KATZ. I'm guessing that the marriage
took place about 1889 as their first child was likely born in
1890. Isaac was likely born about 1869 in Konyushki, Galicia
although the family later moved to Zurow (now Zhuriv) a few miles
away. I have no specific information about Raizel yet. Since
you say that KATZ is a relatively unusual name for Galicia I'm
wondering if there is any connection.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Poland's Partitions and origin of the Jewish surnames #galicia

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlene" <mlbishow@mindspring.com>

My family names are DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM and KATZ. The first two
are obviouslu germanic, but KATZ is not. assuming that the KATZ
family was in Galicia after the edict and during the period of
enforcement, is it likely that the only way that they could get
away with using that name, was by paying a bribe?

I have been told that KATZ is a relatively unusual name for
Galicia. Any comments?
Isaac HABER, probably the first son of my Great Grandfather Akiwa
HABER married Rose (Raizel) KATZ. I'm guessing that the marriage
took place about 1889 as their first child was likely born in
1890. Isaac was likely born about 1869 in Konyushki, Galicia
although the family later moved to Zurow (now Zhuriv) a few miles
away. I have no specific information about Raizel yet. Since
you say that KATZ is a relatively unusual name for Galicia I'm
wondering if there is any connection.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Re: South African Jewry Course changes- London Jewish Cultural Centre #southafrica

Yehudi Gaffen <ygaffen@...>
 

Is there any way to get a transcript (video recording?) of the "week 4 - 31
May" lecture by Nicholas Evans?

Yehudi Gaffen
San Diego

-----Original Message-----

Subject: South African Jewry Course changes- London Jewish Cultural Centre.
From: "Saul Issroff" <saul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:18:12 +0100

There are some changes in the speakers and topics for the South African =
Jewry Course- London Jewish Cultural Centre.
Saul Issroff

week 4: 31 May. Nicholas J. Evans:
1880-1914 - Litvak migration and settlement. The process of migration
(Poor Jews' Temporary Shelter and the Union Castle, Line). The
Immigration Restriction Act, 1902.
Saul Issroff : Where they came from, where they went to...

Nicholas J. Evans is Research Fellow at AHRB Centre for Irish and
Scottish Studies University of Aberdeen. His Ph D dissertation is
related to SA Jewish Migration and the Poor Jews Temporary Shelter.

[etc.]


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: South African Jewry Course changes- London Jewish Cultural Centre #southafrica

Yehudi Gaffen <ygaffen@...>
 

Is there any way to get a transcript (video recording?) of the "week 4 - 31
May" lecture by Nicholas Evans?

Yehudi Gaffen
San Diego

-----Original Message-----

Subject: South African Jewry Course changes- London Jewish Cultural Centre.
From: "Saul Issroff" <saul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:18:12 +0100

There are some changes in the speakers and topics for the South African =
Jewry Course- London Jewish Cultural Centre.
Saul Issroff

week 4: 31 May. Nicholas J. Evans:
1880-1914 - Litvak migration and settlement. The process of migration
(Poor Jews' Temporary Shelter and the Union Castle, Line). The
Immigration Restriction Act, 1902.
Saul Issroff : Where they came from, where they went to...

Nicholas J. Evans is Research Fellow at AHRB Centre for Irish and
Scottish Studies University of Aberdeen. His Ph D dissertation is
related to SA Jewish Migration and the Poor Jews Temporary Shelter.

[etc.]


Re: seeking my family in south africa - pitofsky or pytowski #southafrica

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

I have scanned the Cape Town records and have asked at the Board of Deputies
in Johannesburg. The name is unknown to all -- sorry.


Richard Newman
Cape Town
(genealogist and necrographer)

From: "Jim Pitofsky" <jimp@nylc.org>
Reply-To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [safrica] seeking my family in south africa - pitofsky or pytowski
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 07:21:44 -0700

I am looking for my family in South Africa. Most of my family was killed
in
Lodz, Poland, but three survived and fled to the U.S., which is where I
live. We had heard a rumor that one family member also fled to South
America and another to South Africa. The South America rumor was confirmed
when we located our family in Argentina last year and I visited them. Now
we are even more confident that someone >from our family is in South Africa.
I will be in Cape Town briefly in July and in Johannesburg as well. Do you
know anyone in my family? What should I do to get the word out to see if
anyone knows of my family? Are there other listservs where people help in
these kinds of situations? Any suggestions and referrals you have would be
greatly appreciated.

The spelling of my name is Pitofsky. But I learned >from my Argentinian
family that the original spelling was Pytowski. My great grandfather,
Aaron
came to the U.S., as did his nephews Morris and Harry; and Manuel went to
Argentina.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Sincerely,
Jim Pitofsky


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: seeking my family in south africa - pitofsky or pytowski #southafrica

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

I have scanned the Cape Town records and have asked at the Board of Deputies
in Johannesburg. The name is unknown to all -- sorry.


Richard Newman
Cape Town
(genealogist and necrographer)

From: "Jim Pitofsky" <jimp@nylc.org>
Reply-To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [safrica] seeking my family in south africa - pitofsky or pytowski
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 07:21:44 -0700

I am looking for my family in South Africa. Most of my family was killed
in
Lodz, Poland, but three survived and fled to the U.S., which is where I
live. We had heard a rumor that one family member also fled to South
America and another to South Africa. The South America rumor was confirmed
when we located our family in Argentina last year and I visited them. Now
we are even more confident that someone >from our family is in South Africa.
I will be in Cape Town briefly in July and in Johannesburg as well. Do you
know anyone in my family? What should I do to get the word out to see if
anyone knows of my family? Are there other listservs where people help in
these kinds of situations? Any suggestions and referrals you have would be
greatly appreciated.

The spelling of my name is Pitofsky. But I learned >from my Argentinian
family that the original spelling was Pytowski. My great grandfather,
Aaron
came to the U.S., as did his nephews Morris and Harry; and Manuel went to
Argentina.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Sincerely,
Jim Pitofsky


Kennedy Family Name #general

Ruthie Zaionz
 

I was indeed surprised to know that the name KENNEDY can absolutely be
Jewish. My daughter and son-in-law are friends with a young couple who are
Israeli, now living in Florida.

Ruthie Saginur-Zaionz
Toronto, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kennedy Family Name #general

Ruthie Zaionz
 

I was indeed surprised to know that the name KENNEDY can absolutely be
Jewish. My daughter and son-in-law are friends with a young couple who are
Israeli, now living in Florida.

Ruthie Saginur-Zaionz
Toronto, Canada


Thank you: Re: Searching for TODRES #general

AK <alan.kolnik@...>
 

Thanks to all those who responded to this posting. I have forwarded your
messages and, I belive, also replied individually to all.

Rgds

Alan
alan.kolnik@verizon.net


"AK" < alan.kolnik@add-an-n-before-the-dot-verizo.net >

On behalf of a friend, I would like to hear (and pass along) any information
relating to families with last name "Todres" or closely similar names.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you: Re: Searching for TODRES #general

AK <alan.kolnik@...>
 

Thanks to all those who responded to this posting. I have forwarded your
messages and, I belive, also replied individually to all.

Rgds

Alan
alan.kolnik@verizon.net


"AK" < alan.kolnik@add-an-n-before-the-dot-verizo.net >

On behalf of a friend, I would like to hear (and pass along) any information
relating to families with last name "Todres" or closely similar names.


JG: Re: Some Tips: Finding people in Ellis Island Database #general

jeremy frankel
 

There are several reasons why modern indexes include a percentage of
poorly transcribed names. One reason is if the work of indexing may
be sub-contracted to a company based in a non-English speaking
country.

However I think another, more general reason is that in the past ten,
fifteen years, we have become much more used to reading typed text on
a screen, such that I think we are losing the ability to "read"
handwriting. Naturally it gets worse with bad handwriting and is made
more challenging when the "descenders" and "ascenders" of the lines
above and below infringe the line one is trying to read. Couple this
with poor microfilming and it's any wonder that genealogists can read
anything at all.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JG: Re: Some Tips: Finding people in Ellis Island Database #general

jeremy frankel
 

There are several reasons why modern indexes include a percentage of
poorly transcribed names. One reason is if the work of indexing may
be sub-contracted to a company based in a non-English speaking
country.

However I think another, more general reason is that in the past ten,
fifteen years, we have become much more used to reading typed text on
a screen, such that I think we are losing the ability to "read"
handwriting. Naturally it gets worse with bad handwriting and is made
more challenging when the "descenders" and "ascenders" of the lines
above and below infringe the line one is trying to read. Couple this
with poor microfilming and it's any wonder that genealogists can read
anything at all.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA


S.S. Siberia Maru #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Sylvia,
I was interested in your message because my maternal grandmother
(along with my mother and her sibs) came >from Belarus to the U.S. in
1917 via the "eastern" route on the Fushimi Maru. They went across
Siberia through China to Japan and >from Yokahama to Seattle. A bit of
searching with Google reveals S. S. Siberia Maru that seems to have been
in operation a bit later. Some more looking is in order!
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY

I have recently found a very old postcard (no message written on it) with a
photo of the S.S. Siberia-Maru on the front of it. In addition to the name
of the ship there are two lines of writing on the front in Japanese. I know
my mother-in-law left Russia and traveled to Japan and then on to Canada in
1918. Is it possible that this is the ship that made that journey?
Thanks in advance for any information available.
Sylvia Tulkoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen S.S. Siberia Maru #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Sylvia,
I was interested in your message because my maternal grandmother
(along with my mother and her sibs) came >from Belarus to the U.S. in
1917 via the "eastern" route on the Fushimi Maru. They went across
Siberia through China to Japan and >from Yokahama to Seattle. A bit of
searching with Google reveals S. S. Siberia Maru that seems to have been
in operation a bit later. Some more looking is in order!
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY

I have recently found a very old postcard (no message written on it) with a
photo of the S.S. Siberia-Maru on the front of it. In addition to the name
of the ship there are two lines of writing on the front in Japanese. I know
my mother-in-law left Russia and traveled to Japan and then on to Canada in
1918. Is it possible that this is the ship that made that journey?
Thanks in advance for any information available.
Sylvia Tulkoff


PESACHINSKY - EIDB success! #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Wow, you folks are truly amazing!

One of you, Terri to be specific (I omit her surname so she's not inundated
with similar requests < g >) actually *found* Isaac and his family in the EIDB!!!

To refresh your collective memory, I was looking for:
PESACHINSKY, Isaac, >from Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine
His wife Sonia
His infant son, Louis (probably Lazar)

The index has:
BASACZINSKY, Jzroak >from Ekatercsioslaw
Wife Schoine
Son Lecsor
They indeed immigrated in 1904, on February 14, on the SS Main >from Bremen.
(In defense of the transcriber, the manifest is somewhat faint, and a bit
blurry.)

I don't recall if I tried "B" instead of "P" for the surname when I
searched, but I'm certain I didn't try it simultaneously with "J" instead
of "I" . . .


And since another researcher has found what may be Isaac's naturalization
file in the Bronx County Court, I am just thrilled to pieces with this group.

I will, of course, be sending a contribution to JewishGen as a thank you.

Best of luck to all of you in your own searches!

Regards,
Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA

PS - someone else checked the Calif Death Indexes, and found PESACHINSKY
there. Aha, a whole new line of potential relatives to investigate!

H


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PESACHINSKY - EIDB success! #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Wow, you folks are truly amazing!

One of you, Terri to be specific (I omit her surname so she's not inundated
with similar requests < g >) actually *found* Isaac and his family in the EIDB!!!

To refresh your collective memory, I was looking for:
PESACHINSKY, Isaac, >from Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine
His wife Sonia
His infant son, Louis (probably Lazar)

The index has:
BASACZINSKY, Jzroak >from Ekatercsioslaw
Wife Schoine
Son Lecsor
They indeed immigrated in 1904, on February 14, on the SS Main >from Bremen.
(In defense of the transcriber, the manifest is somewhat faint, and a bit
blurry.)

I don't recall if I tried "B" instead of "P" for the surname when I
searched, but I'm certain I didn't try it simultaneously with "J" instead
of "I" . . .


And since another researcher has found what may be Isaac's naturalization
file in the Bronx County Court, I am just thrilled to pieces with this group.

I will, of course, be sending a contribution to JewishGen as a thank you.

Best of luck to all of you in your own searches!

Regards,
Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA

PS - someone else checked the Calif Death Indexes, and found PESACHINSKY
there. Aha, a whole new line of potential relatives to investigate!

H


Re: Online phone book for Herzlia, Israel - research Pollak #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:04:25 UTC, polyakp@samaramail.ru opined:

Dear all,
I am asking a help to find the internet phonebook of city Hertzlia of
State Israel.
Research: POLLAK, MOSKOVICS-Romania (Petrova, Maramures and Oradea);
GRENWALD-Ashdod (Israel or US).
Best regards, Peter Polyak e-mail:Polyakp@samaramail.ru
There is no online telephone directory specifically for Herzlia or any other
location in Israel. Like online directories for other countries, there is a
single directory for the entire country. Its URL is:
< http://www.144.bezek.com/ >.

Note that it is in Hebrew only, often loads at a glacial speed, and is tarted
up to an amateurish extent with Flash frames. Other than that, it is very
usable.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Online phone book for Herzlia, Israel - research Pollak #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:04:25 UTC, polyakp@samaramail.ru opined:

Dear all,
I am asking a help to find the internet phonebook of city Hertzlia of
State Israel.
Research: POLLAK, MOSKOVICS-Romania (Petrova, Maramures and Oradea);
GRENWALD-Ashdod (Israel or US).
Best regards, Peter Polyak e-mail:Polyakp@samaramail.ru
There is no online telephone directory specifically for Herzlia or any other
location in Israel. Like online directories for other countries, there is a
single directory for the entire country. Its URL is:
< http://www.144.bezek.com/ >.

Note that it is in Hebrew only, often loads at a glacial speed, and is tarted
up to an amateurish extent with Flash frames. Other than that, it is very
usable.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Shtetls of Podolia (1883) #ukraine

Israel P
 

This is a very interesting list and I thank you for posting it. My own interests are in
several towns in Bratslav Uyezd, where apparently some of my Skalaters went,
possibly on the way elsewhere.

Are the names of these males listed anywhere?

Israel Pickholtz

I would like to present the following list of 140
Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as a
POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Shtetls of Podolia (1883) #ukraine

Israel P
 

This is a very interesting list and I thank you for posting it. My own interests are in
several towns in Bratslav Uyezd, where apparently some of my Skalaters went,
possibly on the way elsewhere.

Are the names of these males listed anywhere?

Israel Pickholtz

I would like to present the following list of 140
Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as a
POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883.