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searching for Keidaner Edelman from New York #lithuania

Tamar Dothan <dothan-t@...>
 

I have been very lucky in locating descendents of my grandfather's
cousins in New Zealand, South Africa, US and Israel through this sig and
the JewishGen Family Finder. I hope to be lucky again.

Does anyone know anything about descendents of Aaron Edelman who died
in 1953, aged 53, and is burried in the Montefiore cemetery in Queens,
New York? Aaron came to the US as a child in 1907 >from Keidan with his
family. His parents were Isidore [Yitzkhak] Meir and Rivka, and he
had a brother Nathan and a sister Ana, who both died quite young.

I am also looking for descendents of Louis Edelman [Aaron's uncle], son
of Wolf and Rachel Le'ah, who came to New York >from Keidan before 1907.

Thank you,

Tamar Dothan
Jerusalem, Israel

looking for: SROELOV [Keidan , Siaulenai and USA]; EDELMAN [Keidan
,Kraziai and USA]; SMILG [Keidan and USA]; LEVIN [Keidan and Paris].

LERNER [Kitaygorod, Minkovitz, Terespol and Dunayevtze- Ukraine, and
Buenos Aires]; LUTZKY [Zhvanetz and Dunayevtze - Ukraine]; Brand
[Dunayevtze, Shatava - Ukraine].


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania searching for Keidaner Edelman from New York #lithuania

Tamar Dothan <dothan-t@...>
 

I have been very lucky in locating descendents of my grandfather's
cousins in New Zealand, South Africa, US and Israel through this sig and
the JewishGen Family Finder. I hope to be lucky again.

Does anyone know anything about descendents of Aaron Edelman who died
in 1953, aged 53, and is burried in the Montefiore cemetery in Queens,
New York? Aaron came to the US as a child in 1907 >from Keidan with his
family. His parents were Isidore [Yitzkhak] Meir and Rivka, and he
had a brother Nathan and a sister Ana, who both died quite young.

I am also looking for descendents of Louis Edelman [Aaron's uncle], son
of Wolf and Rachel Le'ah, who came to New York >from Keidan before 1907.

Thank you,

Tamar Dothan
Jerusalem, Israel

looking for: SROELOV [Keidan , Siaulenai and USA]; EDELMAN [Keidan
,Kraziai and USA]; SMILG [Keidan and USA]; LEVIN [Keidan and Paris].

LERNER [Kitaygorod, Minkovitz, Terespol and Dunayevtze- Ukraine, and
Buenos Aires]; LUTZKY [Zhvanetz and Dunayevtze - Ukraine]; Brand
[Dunayevtze, Shatava - Ukraine].


New Lomza Cemetery #poland

Mark Halpern
 

If anyone has pre World War II photos >from the New Cemetery in Lomza,
please contact me privately.

Mark Halpern
West Chester, PA, USA
mark@halpern.com


JRI Poland #Poland New Lomza Cemetery #poland

Mark Halpern
 

If anyone has pre World War II photos >from the New Cemetery in Lomza,
please contact me privately.

Mark Halpern
West Chester, PA, USA
mark@halpern.com


Polish comment on birth record #poland

Israel P
 

I am having trouble with a Polish comment on the birth record at
http://www.pikholz.org/Kranter.html (bottom right corner). It seems
to have to do with the marital status of Gittel PIKHOLZ and the Aron
KRANTER, the parents of the mother of the child.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Polish comment on birth record #poland

Israel P
 

I am having trouble with a Polish comment on the birth record at
http://www.pikholz.org/Kranter.html (bottom right corner). It seems
to have to do with the marital status of Gittel PIKHOLZ and the Aron
KRANTER, the parents of the mother of the child.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: Edinburgh enquiry #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Harvey" <harvey@hkaplan.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
Paula Eisenstein Baker enquires about Edinburgh Jewish newspapers in 1914.

I don't know of any specifically Edinburgh Jewish newspapers. In 1914
there was a Yiddish newspaper in Glasgow, but I've only ever seen one or
two
copies.

The best thing would be to check in the main general newspaper, "The
Scotsman". This newspaper has an online archive at:

http://archive.scotsman.com/Default/Skins/TSPLa/Client.asp?skin=
TSPLa&daily=TSC&enter=true&AppName=2&GZ=T&FromWelcome=False&AW=1118247359902

This covers the period 1817-1950.

Searching the index is free, but there is a charge for seeing the full
extract.

By using Jewish as a key word and narrowing the search down to 1914, I
found 162 entries - but haven't checked if any refer to the concert.

Harvey L Kaplan
Director,
Scottish Jewish Archives Centre
Glasgow, Scotland

MODERATOR NOTE: Due to size of the url, it may be necessary to cut and
paste it.
---
Sender: Harvey L. Kaplan <harvey@hkaplan.freeserve.co.uk>
The British Library in London has copies of almost every newspaper that was
printed in England (I don't know about Scotland). My father was able to look
at copies of a shortlived newspaper called the Jewish Standard that my
greatgrandfather was involved with about 1890.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Edinburgh enquiry #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Harvey" <harvey@hkaplan.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
Paula Eisenstein Baker enquires about Edinburgh Jewish newspapers in 1914.

I don't know of any specifically Edinburgh Jewish newspapers. In 1914
there was a Yiddish newspaper in Glasgow, but I've only ever seen one or
two
copies.

The best thing would be to check in the main general newspaper, "The
Scotsman". This newspaper has an online archive at:

http://archive.scotsman.com/Default/Skins/TSPLa/Client.asp?skin=
TSPLa&daily=TSC&enter=true&AppName=2&GZ=T&FromWelcome=False&AW=1118247359902

This covers the period 1817-1950.

Searching the index is free, but there is a charge for seeing the full
extract.

By using Jewish as a key word and narrowing the search down to 1914, I
found 162 entries - but haven't checked if any refer to the concert.

Harvey L Kaplan
Director,
Scottish Jewish Archives Centre
Glasgow, Scotland

MODERATOR NOTE: Due to size of the url, it may be necessary to cut and
paste it.
---
Sender: Harvey L. Kaplan <harvey@hkaplan.freeserve.co.uk>
The British Library in London has copies of almost every newspaper that was
printed in England (I don't know about Scotland). My father was able to look
at copies of a shortlived newspaper called the Jewish Standard that my
greatgrandfather was involved with about 1890.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Re: Phone number for Freedom of Information office in US Social Security Administration #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Ogus, Roy" <Roy.Ogus@xeroxlabs.com> wrote
Does anyone know the appropriate phone number to use to call the Freedom
of Information office in the US Social Security Administration to find
out the status of an application for a copy of an SS-5 form?

I want to check the status of one of my requests, since it has been much
longer than usual for their response to come back.

Thanks for any input!
See http://www.ssa.gov/appointment.htm

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Phone number for Freedom of Information office in US Social Security Administration #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Ogus, Roy" <Roy.Ogus@xeroxlabs.com> wrote
Does anyone know the appropriate phone number to use to call the Freedom
of Information office in the US Social Security Administration to find
out the status of an application for a copy of an SS-5 form?

I want to check the status of one of my requests, since it has been much
longer than usual for their response to come back.

Thanks for any input!
See http://www.ssa.gov/appointment.htm

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Zazkov Rabbi #rabbinic

Betty Ross <bettyross@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am researching my Mother's HOROWITZ family >from the Berdichev/
Lukashevka/Monastrysche area near Kiev.

My ggrandfather Shakhnor HOROWITZ and his wife Mary MERCOM had a
daughter Chaya who married a man named Yosel. Their daughter Bath-Zion
married the Rabbi of Zazkov. I believe Bath-Zion was born during the
1870s and probably married sometime around 1890.

Does anyone know the name of the Zazkov Rabbi at that time? And how
can I find more information about this connection?

Thanks very much for your help.

Betty Ross
Chevy Chase, MD
bettyross@cs.net


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Zazkov Rabbi #rabbinic

Betty Ross <bettyross@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I am researching my Mother's HOROWITZ family >from the Berdichev/
Lukashevka/Monastrysche area near Kiev.

My ggrandfather Shakhnor HOROWITZ and his wife Mary MERCOM had a
daughter Chaya who married a man named Yosel. Their daughter Bath-Zion
married the Rabbi of Zazkov. I believe Bath-Zion was born during the
1870s and probably married sometime around 1890.

Does anyone know the name of the Zazkov Rabbi at that time? And how
can I find more information about this connection?

Thanks very much for your help.

Betty Ross
Chevy Chase, MD
bettyross@cs.net


Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel #hungary

Sheldon Pivnik <sipivnik@...>
 

Dear Vivian,

In oct 2001, Shelly and I traveled by train >from Buda[pest to Poprad, Slo >from Poprad to Prague ,and Prague back to Budapest on First Class
compartment never crowded trains. Tickets bought in US, and had Hotels
pack sandwiches for us.,with a cpl of visits to Dining Car for Diversion.

We were cautious with our luggage, keeping it in sight and resting on my
pocket book, but never felt threatened, tho once had 3 others in our cabin.
I wonder if a first class ticket was necessary.

I lost Shelly, very suddenly , this past February, and am slowly getting
back to Genealogy. Good Luck in your Quest.

Carole Pivnik, Miami, Fl.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel #hungary

Sheldon Pivnik <sipivnik@...>
 

Dear Vivian,

In oct 2001, Shelly and I traveled by train >from Buda[pest to Poprad, Slo >from Poprad to Prague ,and Prague back to Budapest on First Class
compartment never crowded trains. Tickets bought in US, and had Hotels
pack sandwiches for us.,with a cpl of visits to Dining Car for Diversion.

We were cautious with our luggage, keeping it in sight and resting on my
pocket book, but never felt threatened, tho once had 3 others in our cabin.
I wonder if a first class ticket was necessary.

I lost Shelly, very suddenly , this past February, and am slowly getting
back to Genealogy. Good Luck in your Quest.

Carole Pivnik, Miami, Fl.


Re: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY #hungary

lynnsaul@...
 

In the Hungarian archives books >from the 19th century that I have seen,
there were two kinds of name change entries: in a record of its own, and
as a notation in the record of the person's birth or marriage.
Apparently the Pecs U. record is a compilation >from those records, or
perhaps is a separate book showing name changes only.

In the movie "Sunshine" (>from a couple years ago, starring Ralph Fiennes
as 3 generations of Hungarian Jewish men), the characters in one
generation change their names; they go to a public office and state that
this is what they want to do and sign a book.

Lynn Saul
Tucson AZ
Knowing that some of my ancestors changed their names, but I'm not sure
which ones...

Dear GenFamily,
I have used and seen this Name Changes Index before, but I've never been
able to find out -- are there "files" or some kind of background details
available for each of these listings?

I might have found my ggrandfather -- Gyori Sandor. He lived in Budapest
by
this time, but was born in Gonyu, near Gyor. He was a merchant and, I
think,
that his original name was Singer, but I don't know for sure. And since
this
listing doesn't show birth place, I can't be sure. And I can't seem to
find
his birth record that would list his name change.

And so, my question, are there any additional "files" available at the
Hungarian Archives?
Thank you,
Judi Gyori Missel
Mesa, Arizona


Re: Sfaradic Jews in Hungary - 1023 #hungary

George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
 

Jeff et al,

When I last visited Hungary in 1968, a cousin told me that Gyuri Vidor had
created this family tree. I tried to get in touch with him at the time, but
he was ill and unable to accept any visitors including me. I forgot about
it (and genealogy) for many years. When I became interested in genealogy
again, I tried to get in touch with him, but he had apparently died in
the interim and I have not been able to find his children who would be his
heirs. As I understood it, the tree showed the family history >from when
they left Spain at the time of the inquisition until the 1950s. Until I
heard about this, I had been sure that the family had always been
ashkenazi. And there is nothing in the family customs to indicate that
there were sephardi customs. But I would not have expected that because
this branch of the family was not particularly religious and even if they
were refugees >from Spain, there had been significant intermarriage with the
ashkenazi Jewish community in Hungary.

This branch of the family is that of my maternal grandmother, Hedwig
(Hendel bat Mordecai) Weisz. Her uncles, Jeno and Joszef Weisz, sons of
Jehoshua Halevi Weisz, changed their names to Vidor (see
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_247.html ). Joszef was
the father of Gyuri, who is said to have created this family tree. To the
best of my knowledge, he lived on Keleti Karoly utsa. Recently, I found
his old telephone number, but it only has six digits. Does anyone know if
the Hungarian telephone company can trace someone using the old telephone
number or if we can find a telephone number corresponding to an address.
When I looked up the name in the Hungarian (Matav) online telephone
directory, I found one Vidor Gyorgy listed, but i called and as I expected,
he is not the one, nor is wife Marta listed. But I would not expect that
either since i am sure that she too has died. I expect that their children
(whose names I do not know) are probably in their eighties and may also
have died, in which case the only people I would expect to find are his
grandchildren. Would the Jewish community have records?

If anyone can help me find out more where his heirs are located, I hope to
find and obtain a copy of this family tree. If I could do so and I get the
family's permission, I would be happy to post it for everyone to see. Thank
you.

George Farkas
Montreal

Searching: FARKAS, FRIED, ALTMANN, FRIEDMANN, GROSS, KLEIN,
WEISZ, VIDOR, STEIN, LINKS, KNOPFELMACHER, LUSTIG, SPITZER



At 08/06/2005 07:51 AM, Jeff Malka sent the following message:

Hi

I have not been following this thread but this message caught my attention.

Does anyone have a copy of the family tree prepared by Gyuri Vidor or have
any evidence that it existed? I am trying to find out if there is a solid
connection between Weisz, Vidor, and Spain.

(As has been mentioned earlier, the term "Sfard" is usually associated
with Ashkenazic Hassidic Jews because they adopted some elements of the
Sephardic liturgy - not Sepharadim who use words like
Sepharad/Sephardic/Sefardic rather than Sfard).

Jeff Malka


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY #hungary

lynnsaul@...
 

In the Hungarian archives books >from the 19th century that I have seen,
there were two kinds of name change entries: in a record of its own, and
as a notation in the record of the person's birth or marriage.
Apparently the Pecs U. record is a compilation >from those records, or
perhaps is a separate book showing name changes only.

In the movie "Sunshine" (>from a couple years ago, starring Ralph Fiennes
as 3 generations of Hungarian Jewish men), the characters in one
generation change their names; they go to a public office and state that
this is what they want to do and sign a book.

Lynn Saul
Tucson AZ
Knowing that some of my ancestors changed their names, but I'm not sure
which ones...

Dear GenFamily,
I have used and seen this Name Changes Index before, but I've never been
able to find out -- are there "files" or some kind of background details
available for each of these listings?

I might have found my ggrandfather -- Gyori Sandor. He lived in Budapest
by
this time, but was born in Gonyu, near Gyor. He was a merchant and, I
think,
that his original name was Singer, but I don't know for sure. And since
this
listing doesn't show birth place, I can't be sure. And I can't seem to
find
his birth record that would list his name change.

And so, my question, are there any additional "files" available at the
Hungarian Archives?
Thank you,
Judi Gyori Missel
Mesa, Arizona


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re:Sfaradic Jews in Hungary - 1023 #hungary

George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
 

Jeff et al,

When I last visited Hungary in 1968, a cousin told me that Gyuri Vidor had
created this family tree. I tried to get in touch with him at the time, but
he was ill and unable to accept any visitors including me. I forgot about
it (and genealogy) for many years. When I became interested in genealogy
again, I tried to get in touch with him, but he had apparently died in
the interim and I have not been able to find his children who would be his
heirs. As I understood it, the tree showed the family history >from when
they left Spain at the time of the inquisition until the 1950s. Until I
heard about this, I had been sure that the family had always been
ashkenazi. And there is nothing in the family customs to indicate that
there were sephardi customs. But I would not have expected that because
this branch of the family was not particularly religious and even if they
were refugees >from Spain, there had been significant intermarriage with the
ashkenazi Jewish community in Hungary.

This branch of the family is that of my maternal grandmother, Hedwig
(Hendel bat Mordecai) Weisz. Her uncles, Jeno and Joszef Weisz, sons of
Jehoshua Halevi Weisz, changed their names to Vidor (see
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_247.html ). Joszef was
the father of Gyuri, who is said to have created this family tree. To the
best of my knowledge, he lived on Keleti Karoly utsa. Recently, I found
his old telephone number, but it only has six digits. Does anyone know if
the Hungarian telephone company can trace someone using the old telephone
number or if we can find a telephone number corresponding to an address.
When I looked up the name in the Hungarian (Matav) online telephone
directory, I found one Vidor Gyorgy listed, but i called and as I expected,
he is not the one, nor is wife Marta listed. But I would not expect that
either since i am sure that she too has died. I expect that their children
(whose names I do not know) are probably in their eighties and may also
have died, in which case the only people I would expect to find are his
grandchildren. Would the Jewish community have records?

If anyone can help me find out more where his heirs are located, I hope to
find and obtain a copy of this family tree. If I could do so and I get the
family's permission, I would be happy to post it for everyone to see. Thank
you.

George Farkas
Montreal

Searching: FARKAS, FRIED, ALTMANN, FRIEDMANN, GROSS, KLEIN,
WEISZ, VIDOR, STEIN, LINKS, KNOPFELMACHER, LUSTIG, SPITZER



At 08/06/2005 07:51 AM, Jeff Malka sent the following message:

Hi

I have not been following this thread but this message caught my attention.

Does anyone have a copy of the family tree prepared by Gyuri Vidor or have
any evidence that it existed? I am trying to find out if there is a solid
connection between Weisz, Vidor, and Spain.

(As has been mentioned earlier, the term "Sfard" is usually associated
with Ashkenazic Hassidic Jews because they adopted some elements of the
Sephardic liturgy - not Sepharadim who use words like
Sepharad/Sephardic/Sefardic rather than Sfard).

Jeff Malka


Re: Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

Dear Vivian and other potential travellers,

Most people in the former eastern bloc travel by second class. This means
that you may be the only person in the railcar if you are travelling first
class. This is very eerie, and potentially dangerous. It is much better to
locate yourself with other people in your coupe than to sit alone. Also, if
you are travelling in a sleeping car/ berth, make sure that you lock
yourself in. Remember to lock both the door and the little sliding window
into the corridor.

You should spend as little time as possible in the train stations, as they
are often a magnet for the impoverished and troubled souls of society.

I have travelled hundreds of kilometers by train through Europe (including
Slovakia a few weeks ago), without any troubles, but it pays to be vigilant.

Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

Dear Vivian and other potential travellers,

Most people in the former eastern bloc travel by second class. This means
that you may be the only person in the railcar if you are travelling first
class. This is very eerie, and potentially dangerous. It is much better to
locate yourself with other people in your coupe than to sit alone. Also, if
you are travelling in a sleeping car/ berth, make sure that you lock
yourself in. Remember to lock both the door and the little sliding window
into the corridor.

You should spend as little time as possible in the train stations, as they
are often a magnet for the impoverished and troubled souls of society.

I have travelled hundreds of kilometers by train through Europe (including
Slovakia a few weeks ago), without any troubles, but it pays to be vigilant.

Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS