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searching for Keidaner Edelman from New York
#lithuania
Tamar Dothan <dothan-t@...>
I have been very lucky in locating descendents of my grandfather's
cousins in New Zealand, South Africa, US and Israel through this sig and the JewishGen Family Finder. I hope to be lucky again. Does anyone know anything about descendents of Aaron Edelman who died in 1953, aged 53, and is burried in the Montefiore cemetery in Queens, New York? Aaron came to the US as a child in 1907 >from Keidan with his family. His parents were Isidore [Yitzkhak] Meir and Rivka, and he had a brother Nathan and a sister Ana, who both died quite young. I am also looking for descendents of Louis Edelman [Aaron's uncle], son of Wolf and Rachel Le'ah, who came to New York >from Keidan before 1907. Thank you, Tamar Dothan Jerusalem, Israel looking for: SROELOV [Keidan , Siaulenai and USA]; EDELMAN [Keidan ,Kraziai and USA]; SMILG [Keidan and USA]; LEVIN [Keidan and Paris]. LERNER [Kitaygorod, Minkovitz, Terespol and Dunayevtze- Ukraine, and Buenos Aires]; LUTZKY [Zhvanetz and Dunayevtze - Ukraine]; Brand [Dunayevtze, Shatava - Ukraine].
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania searching for Keidaner Edelman from New York
#lithuania
Tamar Dothan <dothan-t@...>
I have been very lucky in locating descendents of my grandfather's
cousins in New Zealand, South Africa, US and Israel through this sig and the JewishGen Family Finder. I hope to be lucky again. Does anyone know anything about descendents of Aaron Edelman who died in 1953, aged 53, and is burried in the Montefiore cemetery in Queens, New York? Aaron came to the US as a child in 1907 >from Keidan with his family. His parents were Isidore [Yitzkhak] Meir and Rivka, and he had a brother Nathan and a sister Ana, who both died quite young. I am also looking for descendents of Louis Edelman [Aaron's uncle], son of Wolf and Rachel Le'ah, who came to New York >from Keidan before 1907. Thank you, Tamar Dothan Jerusalem, Israel looking for: SROELOV [Keidan , Siaulenai and USA]; EDELMAN [Keidan ,Kraziai and USA]; SMILG [Keidan and USA]; LEVIN [Keidan and Paris]. LERNER [Kitaygorod, Minkovitz, Terespol and Dunayevtze- Ukraine, and Buenos Aires]; LUTZKY [Zhvanetz and Dunayevtze - Ukraine]; Brand [Dunayevtze, Shatava - Ukraine].
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New Lomza Cemetery
#poland
Mark Halpern
If anyone has pre World War II photos >from the New Cemetery in Lomza,
please contact me privately. Mark Halpern West Chester, PA, USA mark@halpern.com
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JRI Poland #Poland New Lomza Cemetery
#poland
Mark Halpern
If anyone has pre World War II photos >from the New Cemetery in Lomza,
please contact me privately. Mark Halpern West Chester, PA, USA mark@halpern.com
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Polish comment on birth record
#poland
Israel P
I am having trouble with a Polish comment on the birth record at
http://www.pikholz.org/Kranter.html (bottom right corner). It seems to have to do with the marital status of Gittel PIKHOLZ and the Aron KRANTER, the parents of the mother of the child. Thank you. Israel Pickholtz MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
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JRI Poland #Poland Polish comment on birth record
#poland
Israel P
I am having trouble with a Polish comment on the birth record at
http://www.pikholz.org/Kranter.html (bottom right corner). It seems to have to do with the marital status of Gittel PIKHOLZ and the Aron KRANTER, the parents of the mother of the child. Thank you. Israel Pickholtz MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
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Re: Edinburgh enquiry
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
"Harvey" <harvey@hkaplan.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
Paula Eisenstein Baker enquires about Edinburgh Jewish newspapers in 1914.The British Library in London has copies of almost every newspaper that was printed in England (I don't know about Scotland). My father was able to look at copies of a shortlived newspaper called the Jewish Standard that my greatgrandfather was involved with about 1890. Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Edinburgh enquiry
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
"Harvey" <harvey@hkaplan.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
Paula Eisenstein Baker enquires about Edinburgh Jewish newspapers in 1914.The British Library in London has copies of almost every newspaper that was printed in England (I don't know about Scotland). My father was able to look at copies of a shortlived newspaper called the Jewish Standard that my greatgrandfather was involved with about 1890. Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)
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Re: Phone number for Freedom of Information office in US Social Security Administration
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
"Ogus, Roy" <Roy.Ogus@xeroxlabs.com> wrote
Does anyone know the appropriate phone number to use to call the FreedomSee http://www.ssa.gov/appointment.htm Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Phone number for Freedom of Information office in US Social Security Administration
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
"Ogus, Roy" <Roy.Ogus@xeroxlabs.com> wrote
Does anyone know the appropriate phone number to use to call the FreedomSee http://www.ssa.gov/appointment.htm Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)
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Zazkov Rabbi
#rabbinic
Betty Ross <bettyross@...>
Dear Genners:
I am researching my Mother's HOROWITZ family >from the Berdichev/ Lukashevka/Monastrysche area near Kiev. My ggrandfather Shakhnor HOROWITZ and his wife Mary MERCOM had a daughter Chaya who married a man named Yosel. Their daughter Bath-Zion married the Rabbi of Zazkov. I believe Bath-Zion was born during the 1870s and probably married sometime around 1890. Does anyone know the name of the Zazkov Rabbi at that time? And how can I find more information about this connection? Thanks very much for your help. Betty Ross Chevy Chase, MD bettyross@cs.net
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Zazkov Rabbi
#rabbinic
Betty Ross <bettyross@...>
Dear Genners:
I am researching my Mother's HOROWITZ family >from the Berdichev/ Lukashevka/Monastrysche area near Kiev. My ggrandfather Shakhnor HOROWITZ and his wife Mary MERCOM had a daughter Chaya who married a man named Yosel. Their daughter Bath-Zion married the Rabbi of Zazkov. I believe Bath-Zion was born during the 1870s and probably married sometime around 1890. Does anyone know the name of the Zazkov Rabbi at that time? And how can I find more information about this connection? Thanks very much for your help. Betty Ross Chevy Chase, MD bettyross@cs.net
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Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel
#hungary
Sheldon Pivnik <sipivnik@...>
Dear Vivian,
In oct 2001, Shelly and I traveled by train >from Buda[pest to Poprad, Slo >from Poprad to Prague ,and Prague back to Budapest on First Class compartment never crowded trains. Tickets bought in US, and had Hotels pack sandwiches for us.,with a cpl of visits to Dining Car for Diversion. We were cautious with our luggage, keeping it in sight and resting on my pocket book, but never felt threatened, tho once had 3 others in our cabin. I wonder if a first class ticket was necessary. I lost Shelly, very suddenly , this past February, and am slowly getting back to Genealogy. Good Luck in your Quest. Carole Pivnik, Miami, Fl.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel
#hungary
Sheldon Pivnik <sipivnik@...>
Dear Vivian,
In oct 2001, Shelly and I traveled by train >from Buda[pest to Poprad, Slo >from Poprad to Prague ,and Prague back to Budapest on First Class compartment never crowded trains. Tickets bought in US, and had Hotels pack sandwiches for us.,with a cpl of visits to Dining Car for Diversion. We were cautious with our luggage, keeping it in sight and resting on my pocket book, but never felt threatened, tho once had 3 others in our cabin. I wonder if a first class ticket was necessary. I lost Shelly, very suddenly , this past February, and am slowly getting back to Genealogy. Good Luck in your Quest. Carole Pivnik, Miami, Fl.
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Re: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY
#hungary
lynnsaul@...
In the Hungarian archives books >from the 19th century that I have seen,
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there were two kinds of name change entries: in a record of its own, and as a notation in the record of the person's birth or marriage. Apparently the Pecs U. record is a compilation >from those records, or perhaps is a separate book showing name changes only. In the movie "Sunshine" (>from a couple years ago, starring Ralph Fiennes as 3 generations of Hungarian Jewish men), the characters in one generation change their names; they go to a public office and state that this is what they want to do and sign a book. Lynn Saul Tucson AZ Knowing that some of my ancestors changed their names, but I'm not sure which ones...
Dear GenFamily,
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Re: Sfaradic Jews in Hungary - 1023
#hungary
George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
Jeff et al,
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When I last visited Hungary in 1968, a cousin told me that Gyuri Vidor had created this family tree. I tried to get in touch with him at the time, but he was ill and unable to accept any visitors including me. I forgot about it (and genealogy) for many years. When I became interested in genealogy again, I tried to get in touch with him, but he had apparently died in the interim and I have not been able to find his children who would be his heirs. As I understood it, the tree showed the family history >from when they left Spain at the time of the inquisition until the 1950s. Until I heard about this, I had been sure that the family had always been ashkenazi. And there is nothing in the family customs to indicate that there were sephardi customs. But I would not have expected that because this branch of the family was not particularly religious and even if they were refugees >from Spain, there had been significant intermarriage with the ashkenazi Jewish community in Hungary. This branch of the family is that of my maternal grandmother, Hedwig (Hendel bat Mordecai) Weisz. Her uncles, Jeno and Joszef Weisz, sons of Jehoshua Halevi Weisz, changed their names to Vidor (see http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_247.html ). Joszef was the father of Gyuri, who is said to have created this family tree. To the best of my knowledge, he lived on Keleti Karoly utsa. Recently, I found his old telephone number, but it only has six digits. Does anyone know if the Hungarian telephone company can trace someone using the old telephone number or if we can find a telephone number corresponding to an address. When I looked up the name in the Hungarian (Matav) online telephone directory, I found one Vidor Gyorgy listed, but i called and as I expected, he is not the one, nor is wife Marta listed. But I would not expect that either since i am sure that she too has died. I expect that their children (whose names I do not know) are probably in their eighties and may also have died, in which case the only people I would expect to find are his grandchildren. Would the Jewish community have records? If anyone can help me find out more where his heirs are located, I hope to find and obtain a copy of this family tree. If I could do so and I get the family's permission, I would be happy to post it for everyone to see. Thank you. George Farkas Montreal Searching: FARKAS, FRIED, ALTMANN, FRIEDMANN, GROSS, KLEIN, WEISZ, VIDOR, STEIN, LINKS, KNOPFELMACHER, LUSTIG, SPITZER At 08/06/2005 07:51 AM, Jeff Malka sent the following message:
Hi
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY
#hungary
lynnsaul@...
In the Hungarian archives books >from the 19th century that I have seen,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
there were two kinds of name change entries: in a record of its own, and as a notation in the record of the person's birth or marriage. Apparently the Pecs U. record is a compilation >from those records, or perhaps is a separate book showing name changes only. In the movie "Sunshine" (>from a couple years ago, starring Ralph Fiennes as 3 generations of Hungarian Jewish men), the characters in one generation change their names; they go to a public office and state that this is what they want to do and sign a book. Lynn Saul Tucson AZ Knowing that some of my ancestors changed their names, but I'm not sure which ones...
Dear GenFamily,
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re:Sfaradic Jews in Hungary - 1023
#hungary
George Farkas <gfarkas@...>
Jeff et al,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
When I last visited Hungary in 1968, a cousin told me that Gyuri Vidor had created this family tree. I tried to get in touch with him at the time, but he was ill and unable to accept any visitors including me. I forgot about it (and genealogy) for many years. When I became interested in genealogy again, I tried to get in touch with him, but he had apparently died in the interim and I have not been able to find his children who would be his heirs. As I understood it, the tree showed the family history >from when they left Spain at the time of the inquisition until the 1950s. Until I heard about this, I had been sure that the family had always been ashkenazi. And there is nothing in the family customs to indicate that there were sephardi customs. But I would not have expected that because this branch of the family was not particularly religious and even if they were refugees >from Spain, there had been significant intermarriage with the ashkenazi Jewish community in Hungary. This branch of the family is that of my maternal grandmother, Hedwig (Hendel bat Mordecai) Weisz. Her uncles, Jeno and Joszef Weisz, sons of Jehoshua Halevi Weisz, changed their names to Vidor (see http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_247.html ). Joszef was the father of Gyuri, who is said to have created this family tree. To the best of my knowledge, he lived on Keleti Karoly utsa. Recently, I found his old telephone number, but it only has six digits. Does anyone know if the Hungarian telephone company can trace someone using the old telephone number or if we can find a telephone number corresponding to an address. When I looked up the name in the Hungarian (Matav) online telephone directory, I found one Vidor Gyorgy listed, but i called and as I expected, he is not the one, nor is wife Marta listed. But I would not expect that either since i am sure that she too has died. I expect that their children (whose names I do not know) are probably in their eighties and may also have died, in which case the only people I would expect to find are his grandchildren. Would the Jewish community have records? If anyone can help me find out more where his heirs are located, I hope to find and obtain a copy of this family tree. If I could do so and I get the family's permission, I would be happy to post it for everyone to see. Thank you. George Farkas Montreal Searching: FARKAS, FRIED, ALTMANN, FRIEDMANN, GROSS, KLEIN, WEISZ, VIDOR, STEIN, LINKS, KNOPFELMACHER, LUSTIG, SPITZER At 08/06/2005 07:51 AM, Jeff Malka sent the following message:
Hi
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Re: Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel
#hungary
Gabriela Svatos
Dear Vivian and other potential travellers,
Most people in the former eastern bloc travel by second class. This means that you may be the only person in the railcar if you are travelling first class. This is very eerie, and potentially dangerous. It is much better to locate yourself with other people in your coupe than to sit alone. Also, if you are travelling in a sleeping car/ berth, make sure that you lock yourself in. Remember to lock both the door and the little sliding window into the corridor. You should spend as little time as possible in the train stations, as they are often a magnet for the impoverished and troubled souls of society. I have travelled hundreds of kilometers by train through Europe (including Slovakia a few weeks ago), without any troubles, but it pays to be vigilant. Gabi Gabriela Svatos Richmond Hill, Ontario E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS
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Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Hungarian-Slovak Rail Travel
#hungary
Gabriela Svatos
Dear Vivian and other potential travellers,
Most people in the former eastern bloc travel by second class. This means that you may be the only person in the railcar if you are travelling first class. This is very eerie, and potentially dangerous. It is much better to locate yourself with other people in your coupe than to sit alone. Also, if you are travelling in a sleeping car/ berth, make sure that you lock yourself in. Remember to lock both the door and the little sliding window into the corridor. You should spend as little time as possible in the train stations, as they are often a magnet for the impoverished and troubled souls of society. I have travelled hundreds of kilometers by train through Europe (including Slovakia a few weeks ago), without any troubles, but it pays to be vigilant. Gabi Gabriela Svatos Richmond Hill, Ontario E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS
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