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Re: Sephardic Names #romania

Ostfeld_Dave <davost@...>
 

People are starting to do DNA testing for genealogical purposes and this
may be useful in determining Sephardic ancestry. I've never had my DNA
tested because I'm afraid I will find that my male lineage descends from
a Cossack.

David Ostfeld
Hackensack, NJ
Researching OSTFELD, WECHSLER, STECKLER


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Sephardic Names #romania

Ostfeld_Dave <davost@...>
 

People are starting to do DNA testing for genealogical purposes and this
may be useful in determining Sephardic ancestry. I've never had my DNA
tested because I'm afraid I will find that my male lineage descends from
a Cossack.

David Ostfeld
Hackensack, NJ
Researching OSTFELD, WECHSLER, STECKLER


Blonde hair, Blue eyes #ukraine

Steve Franklin <cryptozoomorphic@...>
 

This photograph, http://www.lordbalto.com/images/Photographs.htm, is of a
wedding picnic taken in Fairmount Park in Philadelphia in 1917. Note the two
blond haired girls in the front row. I also had an uncle, not born at the time
of this photo, who had blond hair as a child. Note that the Dnieper River was
not only a stop on the Silk Road (at Kiev) but also the route by which the
Vikings traveled to the Middle East. So there are many genetic strains in this
region of the world and no one will argue that the Jews were so isolated that
there was no intermarriage at all with the local Ukrainians, who often have
blond hair and other "fair" features. This is only one avenue of many by which
various features were added to the Jewish gene pool.

Steve Franklin
http://www.lordbalto.com/
|
| We can only speculate that it might be possible that my g-mother could have
| been a product of rape??? She was blonde haired and blue eyed.
|
| My great grandfather was a towhead (lighter than platinum blond), and my
| great grandmother had flaming red hair (They came >from the region near
| Kamenets-Podolskiy.). There are many redheads in my family, and I know
| a number of Jewish people with red hair. Many Jews do not have dark
| complexions and dark hair.
|


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Blonde hair, Blue eyes #ukraine

Steve Franklin <cryptozoomorphic@...>
 

This photograph, http://www.lordbalto.com/images/Photographs.htm, is of a
wedding picnic taken in Fairmount Park in Philadelphia in 1917. Note the two
blond haired girls in the front row. I also had an uncle, not born at the time
of this photo, who had blond hair as a child. Note that the Dnieper River was
not only a stop on the Silk Road (at Kiev) but also the route by which the
Vikings traveled to the Middle East. So there are many genetic strains in this
region of the world and no one will argue that the Jews were so isolated that
there was no intermarriage at all with the local Ukrainians, who often have
blond hair and other "fair" features. This is only one avenue of many by which
various features were added to the Jewish gene pool.

Steve Franklin
http://www.lordbalto.com/
|
| We can only speculate that it might be possible that my g-mother could have
| been a product of rape??? She was blonde haired and blue eyed.
|
| My great grandfather was a towhead (lighter than platinum blond), and my
| great grandmother had flaming red hair (They came >from the region near
| Kamenets-Podolskiy.). There are many redheads in my family, and I know
| a number of Jewish people with red hair. Many Jews do not have dark
| complexions and dark hair.
|


Re: Lichtenstein from Troskunai, Lithuania #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Does anyone know of the following family who may have come to South Africa
from Troskunai, Lithuania?
Lazar LICHTENSTEIN, born 1864, in the village of Orlo in Bialistok Uyezd,
and his wife Henna SURASKIN, and their children:

Michal LICHTENSTEIN

Meyer LICHTENSTEIN and wife Riva KURLIATSK, and their children Rocha,
Benjamin and Rashke.

The family was living in Troskunai, Lithuania, in 1920, along with other
LICHTENSTEIN families.

Thanks,
Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Lichtenstein from Troskunai, Lithuania #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Does anyone know of the following family who may have come to South Africa
from Troskunai, Lithuania?
Lazar LICHTENSTEIN, born 1864, in the village of Orlo in Bialistok Uyezd,
and his wife Henna SURASKIN, and their children:

Michal LICHTENSTEIN

Meyer LICHTENSTEIN and wife Riva KURLIATSK, and their children Rocha,
Benjamin and Rashke.

The family was living in Troskunai, Lithuania, in 1920, along with other
LICHTENSTEIN families.

Thanks,
Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


SA Jewish History, New Perspectives #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Reminder for those in London, England:

PROFESSOR SHULA MARKS ON NEW PERSPECTIVES ON SOUTH AFRICAN JEWISH HISTORY: A
South African Jewish History lecture special, Tuesday 21 June, 10am

Tuesday 28 June, 10 a.m . Prof Joseph Sherman: Yiddish in South Africa,
Yiddish and Apartheid.

LJCC, The Old House, Kidderpore Avenue, London NW3 7SZ
Tel: 0207 431 0345 Fax: 0207 431 0361 Email: admin@...


Saul Issroff


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica SA Jewish History, New Perspectives #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Reminder for those in London, England:

PROFESSOR SHULA MARKS ON NEW PERSPECTIVES ON SOUTH AFRICAN JEWISH HISTORY: A
South African Jewish History lecture special, Tuesday 21 June, 10am

Tuesday 28 June, 10 a.m . Prof Joseph Sherman: Yiddish in South Africa,
Yiddish and Apartheid.

LJCC, The Old House, Kidderpore Avenue, London NW3 7SZ
Tel: 0207 431 0345 Fax: 0207 431 0361 Email: admin@...


Saul Issroff


Jewish Affairs Pesach 2005 Genealogy articles #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

I recently received this issue - Pesach 2005. There are a number of articles
of genealogical interest, mostly >from well known members of this SIG.

Ann Rabinowitz has written ' A Journey to Africa and Beyond- Bot Rivier
revisited
Beryl Baleson on the Strand Jewish Community
Dennis Kahn on Jewish Cradock 1935-1960
Eli Goldstein on A Litvak in a South African shtetl: The Story of Kalmen
Goldstein
Manfred Schwartz ' The Silk Road and beyond
Solly Press 'Reflections of a Jewguenot (mainly about Paarl).

Non-genealogical articles include:
SA Jewry and the Tsunami Disaster,
SA and Dixieland Communities,
Origins of the Final Solution etc.

Saul Issroff

For subscription details please contact the SAJBD (or ask me privately).


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Jewish Affairs Pesach 2005 Genealogy articles #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

I recently received this issue - Pesach 2005. There are a number of articles
of genealogical interest, mostly >from well known members of this SIG.

Ann Rabinowitz has written ' A Journey to Africa and Beyond- Bot Rivier
revisited
Beryl Baleson on the Strand Jewish Community
Dennis Kahn on Jewish Cradock 1935-1960
Eli Goldstein on A Litvak in a South African shtetl: The Story of Kalmen
Goldstein
Manfred Schwartz ' The Silk Road and beyond
Solly Press 'Reflections of a Jewguenot (mainly about Paarl).

Non-genealogical articles include:
SA Jewry and the Tsunami Disaster,
SA and Dixieland Communities,
Origins of the Final Solution etc.

Saul Issroff

For subscription details please contact the SAJBD (or ask me privately).


NYC directory lookup #general

ilyaz <ilyaz@...>
 

May someone with access to the New York City Directories for 1903 and 1904
look up three addresses for one person? If you may, please contact me
privately at @ilyazel

--
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC directory lookup #general

ilyaz <ilyaz@...>
 

May someone with access to the New York City Directories for 1903 and 1904
look up three addresses for one person? If you may, please contact me
privately at @ilyazel

--
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida


Privileges of Kohanim and Levi'im #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/17/2005 10:48:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
yrcdi@... writes:
Could you explain what you mean by "offer no real privileges". We know of
many priviliges that the Priests had and some minor ones that still exist
today.

< I believe that the Bible considers a privilege to "Bless the people".
They get a tithe >from all the people etc.

==I am referring to genealogy, specifically why it would not have been
profitable for an ancestor to claim the one status or the other.

==But as for real privileges nowadays for either group: Does anyone pay you
tithes? Are you allowed to keep the pidyon haben payment? Does it matter
whether you are called first or third to the Torah? Are you thrilled when I, a
Levite, pour water over your fists? The Birkat Kohanim (Priestly Blessing)
of today in only a symbolic memory of a rite that could be performed only in
the Bet Hamikdash (the Temple in Jerusalem.

Michael (Me'ir Halevi) Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Privileges of Kohanim and Levi'im #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/17/2005 10:48:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
yrcdi@... writes:
Could you explain what you mean by "offer no real privileges". We know of
many priviliges that the Priests had and some minor ones that still exist
today.

< I believe that the Bible considers a privilege to "Bless the people".
They get a tithe >from all the people etc.

==I am referring to genealogy, specifically why it would not have been
profitable for an ancestor to claim the one status or the other.

==But as for real privileges nowadays for either group: Does anyone pay you
tithes? Are you allowed to keep the pidyon haben payment? Does it matter
whether you are called first or third to the Torah? Are you thrilled when I, a
Levite, pour water over your fists? The Birkat Kohanim (Priestly Blessing)
of today in only a symbolic memory of a rite that could be performed only in
the Bet Hamikdash (the Temple in Jerusalem.

Michael (Me'ir Halevi) Bernet, New York


Looking after Szerencs cemetery information #general

Carlos Koenig <carloskonig@...>
 

Genners,
I am preparing a trip to the old country and one of the towns I will visit
is Szerencs in Zemplen county.
I will like to know if the Jewish cemetery still exist, where is situated
and if is open to the public.
Are there any other relevant genealogical resources in the area.
Any information on the matters will be appreciated.

thanks
Carlos Konig
Stockholm
Sweden
researching
Konig >from Szerencs (Zemplen) and Szarvas (Bekes)

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's ShtetlSchleppers service provides advice
and help for travelers to ancestral areas. See
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSchleppers/
for more information. The IAJGS International Jewish Cemetery Project is
hosted by JewishGen at http://www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/. With some
persistence, you should be able to find information about Szarvas. If you
find information about a cemetery in Szerencs, please submit it using the
button at the bottom of the Cemetery Project page.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking after Szerencs cemetery information #general

Carlos Koenig <carloskonig@...>
 

Genners,
I am preparing a trip to the old country and one of the towns I will visit
is Szerencs in Zemplen county.
I will like to know if the Jewish cemetery still exist, where is situated
and if is open to the public.
Are there any other relevant genealogical resources in the area.
Any information on the matters will be appreciated.

thanks
Carlos Konig
Stockholm
Sweden
researching
Konig >from Szerencs (Zemplen) and Szarvas (Bekes)

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's ShtetlSchleppers service provides advice
and help for travelers to ancestral areas. See
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSchleppers/
for more information. The IAJGS International Jewish Cemetery Project is
hosted by JewishGen at http://www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/. With some
persistence, you should be able to find information about Szarvas. If you
find information about a cemetery in Szerencs, please submit it using the
button at the bottom of the Cemetery Project page.


From privatbeamter to Branntwein #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow members of Austria-Czech,

I have followed with great interest the discussion of
"privatbeamter." Thanks to Celia's well-known persistence and the
contributions of many others, we have all learned a great deal of the
subtleties. I should point out that I found the term both in
meldezettel (residence records) and in annual address books (Lehmann)
used as one word or two. In the address books, the word is
abbreviated as Priv. Bmt. as if it were two words. So I am not sure
which usage predominated.

But, I have a new puzzle. My great grandmother's occupation
is listed as "Branntwein Berschl." There seems to be a centered dot
between the two words and the second word is clearly an abbreviation.
Branntwein means a fortified wine, spirit, or brandy. But, what does
that second abbreviation mean?

Once again, many thanks for your thoughts,

Tom Weiss

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


List of Holders of Postal Checking Accounts in Poland 1936 #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Just learned that there is a book >from 1936 which
lists alphabetically and geogrphically all the holders
of checking accounts (individuals and institutions)
with the PKO Bank.The title is:
Spis Wlascicieli Kont Czekowych W Pocztowej Kasie
Osazczednoso.

I don't know whether the Library of Congress has a copy.
Found there my maternal grandfather's business address
in Krakow.

Sounds promising!!!!

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech From privatbeamter to Branntwein #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow members of Austria-Czech,

I have followed with great interest the discussion of
"privatbeamter." Thanks to Celia's well-known persistence and the
contributions of many others, we have all learned a great deal of the
subtleties. I should point out that I found the term both in
meldezettel (residence records) and in annual address books (Lehmann)
used as one word or two. In the address books, the word is
abbreviated as Priv. Bmt. as if it were two words. So I am not sure
which usage predominated.

But, I have a new puzzle. My great grandmother's occupation
is listed as "Branntwein Berschl." There seems to be a centered dot
between the two words and the second word is clearly an abbreviation.
Branntwein means a fortified wine, spirit, or brandy. But, what does
that second abbreviation mean?

Once again, many thanks for your thoughts,

Tom Weiss

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


JRI Poland #Poland List of Holders of Postal Checking Accounts in Poland 1936 #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Just learned that there is a book >from 1936 which
lists alphabetically and geogrphically all the holders
of checking accounts (individuals and institutions)
with the PKO Bank.The title is:
Spis Wlascicieli Kont Czekowych W Pocztowej Kasie
Osazczednoso.

I don't know whether the Library of Congress has a copy.
Found there my maternal grandfather's business address
in Krakow.

Sounds promising!!!!

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem