"Shari Kantrow" < sjoysk@yahoo.com > wrote:

Dear Genners,
Have any of you heard the male given names Tewil
or Juer/Jur Ber? These are listed on the JRI-Poland
Indexes for my g-g-uncle and g-g-grandfather
respectively. Neither names nor variations are listed
on the Galician given names databases.

See Tewil in http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Tomaszow1/tom025d.html

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

"Shari Kantrow" < sjoysk@yahoo.com > wrote:

Dear Genners,
Have any of you heard the male given names Tewil
or Juer/Jur Ber? These are listed on the JRI-Poland
Indexes for my g-g-uncle and g-g-grandfather
respectively. Neither names nor variations are listed
on the Galician given names databases.

See Tewil in http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Tomaszow1/tom025d.html

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

On 2005.07.17, Irina Kunina <irina_kunina@earthlink.net> enquired:

My family claims that we are related to the family of Rabbi Shlomo
ben Adret (RaSHBA) >from Barcelona. We also know that Adret family
moved >from Spain to Smirna (Turkey). Then they moved >from Smirna to
Israel in the 19th or 20th century and lived there in 1936. Can
anyone help us locate this rabbinical family in
Israel?

The Hebrew biographical dictionary, "Yahaduth Hamizrach B'Eretz
Yisroel" by M.D.Gaon (Publ. Jerusalem 1938) has on p.701 brief
details and references to a few 18th & 19th Century members of
this family.

Incidentally, I always thought the family name was pronounced
Aderet, not Adret.

Leslie Reich

On 2005.07.17, Irina Kunina <irina_kunina@earthlink.net> enquired:

My family claims that we are related to the family of Rabbi Shlomo
ben Adret (RaSHBA) >from Barcelona. We also know that Adret family
moved >from Spain to Smirna (Turkey). Then they moved >from Smirna to
Israel in the 19th or 20th century and lived there in 1936. Can
anyone help us locate this rabbinical family in
Israel?

The Hebrew biographical dictionary, "Yahaduth Hamizrach B'Eretz
Yisroel" by M.D.Gaon (Publ. Jerusalem 1938) has on p.701 brief
details and references to a few 18th & 19th Century members of
this family.

Incidentally, I always thought the family name was pronounced
Aderet, not Adret.

Leslie Reich

Dear Friends,

I am assisting a friend here in Israel who is looking for his family >from
Lviv/Lemburg.

Marjem (Libe/Lina KICHLER) born 1875 in Lemberg married an Asriel/Israel
KARLIK – they lived in Lviv where their children were born – we know of 4,
there may have been more.

Zygmunt born 1891
Arnold Maks (Aron Meilech) born 1892
Genia born 1894
Joachim Izydor (Chaim Israel) born 1896.

Lina became a well known singer especially at Gimpel’s theatre in Lemberg.
She traveled through Austria, Hungary and Romania and in 1924 celebrated her
25th anniversary of her stage career. Asriel was also a member of the chorus
and would regularly sing solo numbers in Yiddish operettas and perform at
the Polish Opera.

Their daughter Genia (my friend’s grandmother) also took to the stage and
was a Yiddish actress.

Genia married a Moshe GELBER and we understand that he too was in the
theatre.

My friend knows absolutely nothing about his GELBER, KARLIK, or KICHLER
families and would be delighted to learn, if this stage in his life, he has
any relatives anywhere in the world.

If anyone has knowledge of any of the above families >from Lviv and
presumably surrounding areas, please do contact me.

I thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

Moderator's Note: It is the policy of JewishGen not to allow posting of messages
for others, UNLESS the other party has no ability to directly access computer
facilties. That concition is assumed regarding this message.

Dear Friends,

I am assisting a friend here in Israel who is looking for his family >from
Lviv/Lemburg.

Marjem (Libe/Lina KICHLER) born 1875 in Lemberg married an Asriel/Israel
KARLIK – they lived in Lviv where their children were born – we know of 4,
there may have been more.

Zygmunt born 1891
Arnold Maks (Aron Meilech) born 1892
Genia born 1894
Joachim Izydor (Chaim Israel) born 1896.

Lina became a well known singer especially at Gimpel’s theatre in Lemberg.
She traveled through Austria, Hungary and Romania and in 1924 celebrated her
25th anniversary of her stage career. Asriel was also a member of the chorus
and would regularly sing solo numbers in Yiddish operettas and perform at
the Polish Opera.

Their daughter Genia (my friend’s grandmother) also took to the stage and
was a Yiddish actress.

Genia married a Moshe GELBER and we understand that he too was in the
theatre.

My friend knows absolutely nothing about his GELBER, KARLIK, or KICHLER
families and would be delighted to learn, if this stage in his life, he has
any relatives anywhere in the world.

If anyone has knowledge of any of the above families >from Lviv and
presumably surrounding areas, please do contact me.

I thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

Moderator's Note: It is the policy of JewishGen not to allow posting of messages
for others, UNLESS the other party has no ability to directly access computer
facilties. That concition is assumed regarding this message.

Dear Fellow ROM-SIGgers,

For those of you who were not present in Las vegas, here is a summary of
our ROM-SIG meeting there, as well as some important announcements!

We had a good turnout, and enjoyed the Power Point display, and report
of the latest visit to Bukovina by Bruce Reisch, given by Merle Kastner,
as Bruce was unable to come to La Vegas. Many thanks to Merle for an
excellent presentation!

Paula and I were able to update those in attendance on the ongoing
efforts to get the Director General of the National Archives of Romania
to open up their arhcives to individual research. I have been
conducting an intensive letter writing campaign over the last year or
so, with the Human Rights Commission of the EU, the US Embassy, and
other US agencies, guided by the head of the ADL affiliate in Buchrest,
MCA Romania! I have spoken with Radu Ioanid of the USHMM to seek his
advice as to how best to proceed. Finally, after letters to the new
government of Romania I received a message >from Dr. LUNGU, head of the
Archives, which while self-justifying to his superiors, gave the
following advice::

<>The Director General of the Romanian Nataional Archives in Bucharest
states that anyone interested in obtaining copies of civil records >from
Romania should send a request, either by air mail or fax to:
<>Arhivele Nationale
B-dul Regina Elisabeta nr.49
Sector 5
050013 - Bucuresti
ROMANIA
Fax#:( +4021)-312 58 41
Those writing via mail should also enclose 2 International Reply
Coupons, asking for a
response via Air Mail<> . You may write in English.

This request should include the following information :
- Name of person who is the object of request
- Date and place of birth, marriage or death
- Religious affiliation<>

The civil records in the National Archives are arranged chronologically,
by name of town/village and religion, not by individual names. Without
the information mentioned above it will be impossible for them to do any
genealogical research. However, they do stress that the civil records
are incomplete, and many documents are missing for long time periods. <>

For fuller information about the holdings of the Romanian archives
please see the chapter on Romania, in the "Avotaynu Guide to Jewish
Genealogy" by Sack & Mokotoff.

Should you decide to write we would appreciate hearing back >from you as
to the responses that you receive.

MORE NEWS!

We have just received >from the LDS 23 more CD-ROM containing vital
records >from Kishinev, and also Herta (Dorohoi). These records contain
at first glance, the following:

Balti: KIshinev:
Births 14,033 Divorces 885
Deaths 4,197 Marriages 1,708
Marriages 2,347

Bender: Herta:
Births 703 Births & deaths 5,076
Divorces 30
Marriages 95

So you can see that we are going to need many more of you to volunteer, if we are
to get this valuable information online! If you are interested in helping please
contact the Project Coordinator, Robert Wascou at: RobertW252@aol.com
He will be eagerly waiting to hear >from you! Remember this is an all-volunteer
organization. Without your help nothing new will happen.

AND MORE VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!

Your worthy Moderators of the ROM-SIG List have been at the task for 5 years now.
Both Moderate several lists on JewishGen, and are most desirous of finding
replacements for themselves. It is not a difficult job, as ours is not one of the
"busy" lists. JewishGen staff will train you, and the two current Moderators will
stay on board till you are firmly in control. But, it is time for some relief...;-D!
Please let Paula and me know if you are interested.

And finally, JewishGen has told us that we need to have a Research Coordinator!
It is now a requirement for all of the SIGs. It requires someone with good
managerial skills. You do not have to do the work on each project, but the idea is
that there is to be one person who will coordinate with all of the various Project
Coordinators (we will need some of those, too) and be the Liaison person with the
JG staff.

And with all of the new files coming our way at last, we will need Project
Coordinators to direct those volunteers doing the translation, data entry and
validation for each of the new databases. Again, this is matter of record keeping
- who has what, and how long have they had it, etc. Here Robert Wascou can give
you the best input as to what the job entails!

And finally, a plea >from Terry Lasky, the Project Coordinator for the Orhei Yiskor
Book project. They are still in need of funding to get this project finished.
If you feel that you cannot give the time, or have the skills, to work on the
project, your donations to the ROM-SIG Orhei Yiskor book project would be most
gratefully received. Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/projectdesc/YB_Orhei.html
and read all about this project, and the probable cost! There are 45 of you who
are researching family in Orhei. This will be a memorable book for you all.
Any amount that you can spare will be gratefully appreciated!

All in all, a successful meeting, and busy times coming for us all on ROM-SIG.

Rosanne Leeson
Paula Zieselman
Your Co-Coordinators

Dear Fellow ROM-SIGgers,

For those of you who were not present in Las vegas, here is a summary of
our ROM-SIG meeting there, as well as some important announcements!

We had a good turnout, and enjoyed the Power Point display, and report
of the latest visit to Bukovina by Bruce Reisch, given by Merle Kastner,
as Bruce was unable to come to La Vegas. Many thanks to Merle for an
excellent presentation!

Paula and I were able to update those in attendance on the ongoing
efforts to get the Director General of the National Archives of Romania
to open up their arhcives to individual research. I have been
conducting an intensive letter writing campaign over the last year or
so, with the Human Rights Commission of the EU, the US Embassy, and
other US agencies, guided by the head of the ADL affiliate in Buchrest,
MCA Romania! I have spoken with Radu Ioanid of the USHMM to seek his
advice as to how best to proceed. Finally, after letters to the new
government of Romania I received a message >from Dr. LUNGU, head of the
Archives, which while self-justifying to his superiors, gave the
following advice::

<>The Director General of the Romanian Nataional Archives in Bucharest
states that anyone interested in obtaining copies of civil records >from
Romania should send a request, either by air mail or fax to:
<>Arhivele Nationale
B-dul Regina Elisabeta nr.49
Sector 5
050013 - Bucuresti
ROMANIA
Fax#:( +4021)-312 58 41
Those writing via mail should also enclose 2 International Reply
Coupons, asking for a
response via Air Mail<> . You may write in English.

This request should include the following information :
- Name of person who is the object of request
- Date and place of birth, marriage or death
- Religious affiliation<>

The civil records in the National Archives are arranged chronologically,
by name of town/village and religion, not by individual names. Without
the information mentioned above it will be impossible for them to do any
genealogical research. However, they do stress that the civil records
are incomplete, and many documents are missing for long time periods. <>

For fuller information about the holdings of the Romanian archives
please see the chapter on Romania, in the "Avotaynu Guide to Jewish
Genealogy" by Sack & Mokotoff.

Should you decide to write we would appreciate hearing back >from you as
to the responses that you receive.

MORE NEWS!

We have just received >from the LDS 23 more CD-ROM containing vital
records >from Kishinev, and also Herta (Dorohoi). These records contain
at first glance, the following:

Balti: KIshinev:
Births 14,033 Divorces 885
Deaths 4,197 Marriages 1,708
Marriages 2,347

Bender: Herta:
Births 703 Births & deaths 5,076
Divorces 30
Marriages 95

So you can see that we are going to need many more of you to volunteer, if we are
to get this valuable information online! If you are interested in helping please
contact the Project Coordinator, Robert Wascou at: RobertW252@aol.com
He will be eagerly waiting to hear >from you! Remember this is an all-volunteer
organization. Without your help nothing new will happen.

AND MORE VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!

Your worthy Moderators of the ROM-SIG List have been at the task for 5 years now.
Both Moderate several lists on JewishGen, and are most desirous of finding
replacements for themselves. It is not a difficult job, as ours is not one of the
"busy" lists. JewishGen staff will train you, and the two current Moderators will
stay on board till you are firmly in control. But, it is time for some relief...;-D!
Please let Paula and me know if you are interested.

And finally, JewishGen has told us that we need to have a Research Coordinator!
It is now a requirement for all of the SIGs. It requires someone with good
managerial skills. You do not have to do the work on each project, but the idea is
that there is to be one person who will coordinate with all of the various Project
Coordinators (we will need some of those, too) and be the Liaison person with the
JG staff.

And with all of the new files coming our way at last, we will need Project
Coordinators to direct those volunteers doing the translation, data entry and
validation for each of the new databases. Again, this is matter of record keeping
- who has what, and how long have they had it, etc. Here Robert Wascou can give
you the best input as to what the job entails!

And finally, a plea >from Terry Lasky, the Project Coordinator for the Orhei Yiskor
Book project. They are still in need of funding to get this project finished.
If you feel that you cannot give the time, or have the skills, to work on the
project, your donations to the ROM-SIG Orhei Yiskor book project would be most
gratefully received. Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/projectdesc/YB_Orhei.html
and read all about this project, and the probable cost! There are 45 of you who
are researching family in Orhei. This will be a memorable book for you all.
Any amount that you can spare will be gratefully appreciated!

All in all, a successful meeting, and busy times coming for us all on ROM-SIG.

Rosanne Leeson
Paula Zieselman
Your Co-Coordinators

"Joan Parker" < joanparker@intergate.com > wrote:

Along with kudos to the JGS of Southern Nevada for a great and well-run
conference, kudos to JewishGen for its improvement to the website with its drop
down menus.

I don't know about the Conference - but the website looks good.
--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

"Joan Parker" < joanparker@intergate.com > wrote:

Along with kudos to the JGS of Southern Nevada for a great and well-run
conference, kudos to JewishGen for its improvement to the website with its drop
down menus.

I don't know about the Conference - but the website looks good.
--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

< yisraelasper@comcast.net > wrote:

The King of England had the Jews of Ireland as his property. They remained
English royal possessions until they were expelled along with the other English
Jews who at the time were a branch of French Jewry more specifically Northern-
French Jewry as Ashkenazic Jewry was Northern French and German.
Yisrael Asper
yisraelasper@comcast.net
Pittsburgh PA

Would it be possible for posters to give sources. If I am talking >from my
own personal knowledge about my family etc then that is valid testimony, but
otherwise if people are merely stating to be what they believe to be the
case it can end up as a never-ending series of exchanges until one person
retires hurt.

I would imagine that at the time all vassalls were the property of a local
lord.

According to
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Jews-in-the-United-Kingdom under
Henry (1100-1135) a royal charter was granted to Joseph, the Chief Rabbi of
London.

It says that special weight was attributed to the evidence of a Jew (=12
Christians).

It also says that Jews had free movement round the kingdom as though they
were the king's property. This is what Yisroel says but sheds a slightly
different light.

No doubt, if you only had the protection of your local lord your life would
be in danger anywhere else. It was as though the Jews had a national
passport.

Of course, when that protection was removed then the whole thing would
collapse.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

< yisraelasper@comcast.net > wrote:

The King of England had the Jews of Ireland as his property. They remained
English royal possessions until they were expelled along with the other English
Jews who at the time were a branch of French Jewry more specifically Northern-
French Jewry as Ashkenazic Jewry was Northern French and German.
Yisrael Asper
yisraelasper@comcast.net
Pittsburgh PA

Would it be possible for posters to give sources. If I am talking >from my
own personal knowledge about my family etc then that is valid testimony, but
otherwise if people are merely stating to be what they believe to be the
case it can end up as a never-ending series of exchanges until one person
retires hurt.

I would imagine that at the time all vassalls were the property of a local
lord.

According to
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Jews-in-the-United-Kingdom under
Henry (1100-1135) a royal charter was granted to Joseph, the Chief Rabbi of
London.

It says that special weight was attributed to the evidence of a Jew (=12
Christians).

It also says that Jews had free movement round the kingdom as though they
were the king's property. This is what Yisroel says but sheds a slightly
different light.

No doubt, if you only had the protection of your local lord your life would
be in danger anywhere else. It was as though the Jews had a national
passport.

Of course, when that protection was removed then the whole thing would
collapse.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

I'd like to find out if anyone is researching Rava Ruska. If so, have you
had any luck getting records??

Thanks.

Tom Erribe
CA

The 1926/27 Poland and Danzig Business Directory, "Ksiega Adresowa Polski
( wraz z w. m. Gdanskiem ) dla handlu, rzemiosl i rolnictwa," is now freely
available online at the Digital Library of Wielkopolska's site
http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=11407. This 2626-page
directory is primarily organized by place, then by business type, then by
surname or business name. To facilitate searching, I have applied optical
character recognition (OCR) software to the Digital Library images and
incorporated the result into my Search Engine for Online Historical
Directories at http://www.kalter.org/search.php. When searching, please
keep in mind that OCR is not 100% accurate, so you still might want to
manually search the directory, especially if you are only interested a few
known small towns. To improve your chances of success, I encourage you to
make use of all three available methods of searching. An explanation of how
to access the scanned directory images at the Digital Library site can be
found in the FAQ on the Search Engine site.

If you find this tool to be helpful, please let me know.

Please realize that an initially high response may slow the Search Engine.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.

I'd like to find out if anyone is researching Rava Ruska. If so, have you
had any luck getting records??

Thanks.

Tom Erribe
CA

The 1926/27 Poland and Danzig Business Directory, "Ksiega Adresowa Polski
( wraz z w. m. Gdanskiem ) dla handlu, rzemiosl i rolnictwa," is now freely
available online at the Digital Library of Wielkopolska's site
http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=11407. This 2626-page
directory is primarily organized by place, then by business type, then by
surname or business name. To facilitate searching, I have applied optical
character recognition (OCR) software to the Digital Library images and
incorporated the result into my Search Engine for Online Historical
Directories at http://www.kalter.org/search.php. When searching, please
keep in mind that OCR is not 100% accurate, so you still might want to
manually search the directory, especially if you are only interested a few
known small towns. To improve your chances of success, I encourage you to
make use of all three available methods of searching. An explanation of how
to access the scanned directory images at the Digital Library site can be
found in the FAQ on the Search Engine site.

If you find this tool to be helpful, please let me know.

Please realize that an initially high response may slow the Search Engine.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.

Flo-Thank you for all your hard work, and a special thank you to Freya and
her team who will be continuing your fine work.

Robin B. Seidenberg

Researching:

BRENNER, ERLICHMAN-Kamenets Podolskiy area (Zinkov, Proskurov, etc.)

BOGOSLOWSKY-Stavisht, Kiev, Ekaterinoslav

WANIEWSKI, WYRZYKIEWICZ- Bialystok-Tykocin area (Lomza gubernia)

Florence, thank you for all the work you've put into this SIG, and thanks
very much to Freya and Deborah for committing to keep it going. It's
been great to see the new stuff show up. Today I stopped by
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/ and made a donation to
Ukraine SIG. Good luck with future endeavors!

Barbara Niederhoff
Centennial CO

Flo-Thank you for all your hard work, and a special thank you to Freya and
her team who will be continuing your fine work.

Robin B. Seidenberg

Researching:

BRENNER, ERLICHMAN-Kamenets Podolskiy area (Zinkov, Proskurov, etc.)

BOGOSLOWSKY-Stavisht, Kiev, Ekaterinoslav

WANIEWSKI, WYRZYKIEWICZ- Bialystok-Tykocin area (Lomza gubernia)

Florence, thank you for all the work you've put into this SIG, and thanks
very much to Freya and Deborah for committing to keep it going. It's
been great to see the new stuff show up. Today I stopped by
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/ and made a donation to
Ukraine SIG. Good luck with future endeavors!

Barbara Niederhoff
Centennial CO