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Re: Tashkent #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

When researching Tashkent and other Central Asian
locations, remember that there are two separate
communities in these places: the ancient Sephardic
community, and the more recent Ashkenazi community
which came at different times (war evacuations, etc.).
Synagogues are separate, and other divisions exist
between the two communities.

For those researching the Sephardic community, many
families moved to Moscow very early for various
reasons, particularly >from Bukhara, and other cities.
Therefore, a search among the Central Asian Sephardim
in Moscow is also useful if this is what you need.

In fact, following the revolution, a Bukharan rabbi
and his family (and extended family) was imported from
there to head the Sephardic synagogue which met in
rooms of the Choral Synagogue in Moscow.
Members of the family still live in Moscow where they
are in various businesses/professions, while others,
including the rabbi's son (now a great-grandfather),
have relocated to New York and Israel.

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net
schelly@genealogy.org.il

Subject: Tashkent
From: "Marilyn F" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>

I am looking for others who are studying family that
lived in Tashkent. Some were buried there. Please
contact me if you have information to share.
Thanks. Marilyn Feingold >>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Tashkent #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

When researching Tashkent and other Central Asian
locations, remember that there are two separate
communities in these places: the ancient Sephardic
community, and the more recent Ashkenazi community
which came at different times (war evacuations, etc.).
Synagogues are separate, and other divisions exist
between the two communities.

For those researching the Sephardic community, many
families moved to Moscow very early for various
reasons, particularly >from Bukhara, and other cities.
Therefore, a search among the Central Asian Sephardim
in Moscow is also useful if this is what you need.

In fact, following the revolution, a Bukharan rabbi
and his family (and extended family) was imported from
there to head the Sephardic synagogue which met in
rooms of the Choral Synagogue in Moscow.
Members of the family still live in Moscow where they
are in various businesses/professions, while others,
including the rabbi's son (now a great-grandfather),
have relocated to New York and Israel.

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net
schelly@genealogy.org.il

Subject: Tashkent
From: "Marilyn F" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>

I am looking for others who are studying family that
lived in Tashkent. Some were buried there. Please
contact me if you have information to share.
Thanks. Marilyn Feingold >>>


MOSES family #unitedkingdom

Lawrence Blum
 

Hi,
My grandfather, Joseph FARBMAN, left Brest (now in Belarus) for London
in the late 1890s
and stayed with a cousin(?). The cousin's name was Nathan MOSES.
According to the census
they lived in White Chapel. Does anyone have information about the MOSES
family?
Please reply Private. lblum1@tampabay.rr.com
Thank You
Lawrence Blum of Port Richey, Florida


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom MOSES family #unitedkingdom

Lawrence Blum
 

Hi,
My grandfather, Joseph FARBMAN, left Brest (now in Belarus) for London
in the late 1890s
and stayed with a cousin(?). The cousin's name was Nathan MOSES.
According to the census
they lived in White Chapel. Does anyone have information about the MOSES
family?
Please reply Private. lblum1@tampabay.rr.com
Thank You
Lawrence Blum of Port Richey, Florida


Publishing Genealogies - What's the point? #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear JewishGen members,

This issue was covered very well and provided many
Points a researcher needs to be aware of. However,
encouraged by the replies that I received and reading
all the postings for this topic there seems to be at
least one major Point missing. The easiest way to
illustrate this is to depict in a very simple way the
steps one takes when their research is complete.

Taking the most *stringent* view >from this topic:

1) A researcher puts together a family tree.

2) The researcher contacts each living member on the
tree and lets them decide if they want their name
or deceased members of their immediate families
names on this list.

3) After complying with the members wishes, the
researcher sends a copy of the finalized family
tree to all the members and never publishes it in
any form. Since he is not publishing it, local laws
are of no concern.

So where does the problem lie? In many cases there
will be family members that this researcher never
located. I'm sure everyone knows all the reasons,
including destroyed or unavailable records, multiple
marriages, and the list goes on and on, including the
quality and amount of work that was put into the
research.

The Point is that the members that the researcher
never located may never find their families.

If the Family Tree was published, it would Help these
missing members, especially amateur researchers like
myself, to locate a few names that may form that
connection.

And after all, what is the Point of all, including
this discussion group if it doesn't Help you find your
family?

Sincerely,
Yehudah BenShlomo
U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Publishing Genealogies - What's the point? #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear JewishGen members,

This issue was covered very well and provided many
Points a researcher needs to be aware of. However,
encouraged by the replies that I received and reading
all the postings for this topic there seems to be at
least one major Point missing. The easiest way to
illustrate this is to depict in a very simple way the
steps one takes when their research is complete.

Taking the most *stringent* view >from this topic:

1) A researcher puts together a family tree.

2) The researcher contacts each living member on the
tree and lets them decide if they want their name
or deceased members of their immediate families
names on this list.

3) After complying with the members wishes, the
researcher sends a copy of the finalized family
tree to all the members and never publishes it in
any form. Since he is not publishing it, local laws
are of no concern.

So where does the problem lie? In many cases there
will be family members that this researcher never
located. I'm sure everyone knows all the reasons,
including destroyed or unavailable records, multiple
marriages, and the list goes on and on, including the
quality and amount of work that was put into the
research.

The Point is that the members that the researcher
never located may never find their families.

If the Family Tree was published, it would Help these
missing members, especially amateur researchers like
myself, to locate a few names that may form that
connection.

And after all, what is the Point of all, including
this discussion group if it doesn't Help you find your
family?

Sincerely,
Yehudah BenShlomo
U.S.A.


Polish medical journal- Pneumonologia Polska #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I am looking for an old issue of a Polish medical journal that contains an
article of possible genealogical importance. If you have easy access to
past issues of this journal, Pneumonologia Polska, please contact me
privately.

Thanks very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish medical journal- Pneumonologia Polska #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I am looking for an old issue of a Polish medical journal that contains an
article of possible genealogical importance. If you have easy access to
past issues of this journal, Pneumonologia Polska, please contact me
privately.

Thanks very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JEWISH DIRECTORY #unitedkingdom

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Hello,

I've been studiously following the advice given me >from my last email a
number of months ago regarding my elusive ADELSON family. I've even =
created
a spreadsheet that contains pertinent information gleaned >from =
directories
and census' so as to compare the different Adelson families on these
records, hoping to figure out which is mine. My great-uncle, Samuel =
Adelson,
noted on his 1920 passenger record (to the US) that he last resided with =
his
"aunt, Mrs. Adelson, at 88 Gosset St., Brick Lane, London." We presume =
that
her husband, Mr. Adelson, was my great-grandfather's brother, at that =
time
deceased. Unfortunately, we know of no given names. What we do know is =
that
Mr. Adelson's father's name was Hirsch and he was born in Lithuania. To =
get
to the point, after getting hold of some vital records, the two London
families I thought could be ours, are not. I'm trying for the third and
final Adelson Londoner, whom I found on the 1900 London City Directory. =
Can
somebody tell me if there are additional London City Directories online =
from
the period 1910-1920? Also, how can I get hold of this person's =
Immigration
record or any record that would indicate his father's name or his own =
place
of birth (other than Russia/Lithuania)? That's the only way I can =
conceive
of confirming a relationship.

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, Arizona USA
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ADELSON (London, Vilna, Butrimantz & surrounds)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom JEWISH DIRECTORY #unitedkingdom

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Hello,

I've been studiously following the advice given me >from my last email a
number of months ago regarding my elusive ADELSON family. I've even =
created
a spreadsheet that contains pertinent information gleaned >from =
directories
and census' so as to compare the different Adelson families on these
records, hoping to figure out which is mine. My great-uncle, Samuel =
Adelson,
noted on his 1920 passenger record (to the US) that he last resided with =
his
"aunt, Mrs. Adelson, at 88 Gosset St., Brick Lane, London." We presume =
that
her husband, Mr. Adelson, was my great-grandfather's brother, at that =
time
deceased. Unfortunately, we know of no given names. What we do know is =
that
Mr. Adelson's father's name was Hirsch and he was born in Lithuania. To =
get
to the point, after getting hold of some vital records, the two London
families I thought could be ours, are not. I'm trying for the third and
final Adelson Londoner, whom I found on the 1900 London City Directory. =
Can
somebody tell me if there are additional London City Directories online =
from
the period 1910-1920? Also, how can I get hold of this person's =
Immigration
record or any record that would indicate his father's name or his own =
place
of birth (other than Russia/Lithuania)? That's the only way I can =
conceive
of confirming a relationship.

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, Arizona USA
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ADELSON (London, Vilna, Butrimantz & surrounds)


Lodz area map, 1936-7 #lodz #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,
I have added a "map room" to my virtual museum that some of you may be
interesed in visiting. I have included in the Map Room web page a few
topographical maps that were produced in Poland between the World Wars. The
maps are of the following areas:

1. Lodz, 1936-7 (This compliments the LARG website military map of 1931 that
shows a part of the area mostly north of Lodz. The map on my site shows the
area mostly to the south and east of Lodz.)
2. Lomza and vicinity, 1915/1925
3. Bialystok and vicinity, 1932-3
4. Ostrow Mazowiecka, 1915/1925
5. Tykocin, 1930-1
6. Warszawa, 1915/1922

The direct link is www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/map.room.htm

More maps of Poland will be added in the future. Please check the Updates
page periodically (accessed through the Museum's Site Map.)
Also remember the Lodz, Lask and Tomaszow unique surnames lists for New
York/New Jersey cemetery society plots, found at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/us.main.htm


Steven Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Lodz area map, 1936-7 #lodz #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,
I have added a "map room" to my virtual museum that some of you may be
interesed in visiting. I have included in the Map Room web page a few
topographical maps that were produced in Poland between the World Wars. The
maps are of the following areas:

1. Lodz, 1936-7 (This compliments the LARG website military map of 1931 that
shows a part of the area mostly north of Lodz. The map on my site shows the
area mostly to the south and east of Lodz.)
2. Lomza and vicinity, 1915/1925
3. Bialystok and vicinity, 1932-3
4. Ostrow Mazowiecka, 1915/1925
5. Tykocin, 1930-1
6. Warszawa, 1915/1922

The direct link is www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/map.room.htm

More maps of Poland will be added in the future. Please check the Updates
page periodically (accessed through the Museum's Site Map.)
Also remember the Lodz, Lask and Tomaszow unique surnames lists for New
York/New Jersey cemetery society plots, found at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/us.main.htm


Steven Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

CROMER
Trying to trace Jonas De Kromme aka Jonas Cromer
he was born in London 1876 an attended JFS he was >from a Dutch Ashkenazi
family and was a Cabinet maker
He was alive in 1942

Any connections please advise

Aubrey Jacobus

London


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom CROMER #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

CROMER
Trying to trace Jonas De Kromme aka Jonas Cromer
he was born in London 1876 an attended JFS he was >from a Dutch Ashkenazi
family and was a Cabinet maker
He was alive in 1942

Any connections please advise

Aubrey Jacobus

London


Rashi/Treves/Bute connection? #general

bxzi@...
 

In Hyamson's "The Sephardim of England," he states that the Marquess of
Bute is a descendant of Pellegrin Treves and is either a direct or
collateral descendant of Rashi.

I have been trying to find information to confirm this but I can't find
anything.

Can anyone help?

Thank you.

Brooke Morris
bxzi@yahoo.com


Lithuanian databases #general

Harvey <harvey@...>
 

Can anyone explain to me where these 2 databases differ, and why there's
not just one?

LitvakSIG "All Lithuania" Database
More than 400,000 records >from many different sources, including
complete Revision Lists as well as vital records, tax, voters, and
cemetery lists.

The JewishGen Lithuania Database
Over 500,000 records for Lithuania, >from a variety of sources,
including: vital records, Revision Lists, business directories, voter
lists, Yizkor books and other Holocaust sources.

thanks

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rashi/Treves/Bute connection? #general

bxzi@...
 

In Hyamson's "The Sephardim of England," he states that the Marquess of
Bute is a descendant of Pellegrin Treves and is either a direct or
collateral descendant of Rashi.

I have been trying to find information to confirm this but I can't find
anything.

Can anyone help?

Thank you.

Brooke Morris
bxzi@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuanian databases #general

Harvey <harvey@...>
 

Can anyone explain to me where these 2 databases differ, and why there's
not just one?

LitvakSIG "All Lithuania" Database
More than 400,000 records >from many different sources, including
complete Revision Lists as well as vital records, tax, voters, and
cemetery lists.

The JewishGen Lithuania Database
Over 500,000 records for Lithuania, >from a variety of sources,
including: vital records, Revision Lists, business directories, voter
lists, Yizkor books and other Holocaust sources.

thanks

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


Viewmate help kindly requested (Russian) #poland

TAFKASnyc@...
 

Hi folks,
Not sure where these pics are >from but chances are they could be on my
Mom's side which means Poland, they are all notations on the backs of
photos of people who must somehow be related....

Would love it if some benevolent soul would clue me in as to what they say.

The Viewmate file #s are

VM6655
VM6656
VM6657
VM6658
and
VM6665

Thanks as always for all the great work everyone does around here!

Please respond to me privately.

Best,

Robert Becker, New York

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Viewmate may be found at www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/


JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate help kindly requested (Russian) #poland

TAFKASnyc@...
 

Hi folks,
Not sure where these pics are >from but chances are they could be on my
Mom's side which means Poland, they are all notations on the backs of
photos of people who must somehow be related....

Would love it if some benevolent soul would clue me in as to what they say.

The Viewmate file #s are

VM6655
VM6656
VM6657
VM6658
and
VM6665

Thanks as always for all the great work everyone does around here!

Please respond to me privately.

Best,

Robert Becker, New York

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Viewmate may be found at www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/