I have just been told that my great grandfather Jacob Kopel FRANK
was the son of a rabbi who married the daughter of a rabbi (Fanny
Judith KARMEL). I am told that Jacob was born in Babruysk, in June
of 1861. Jacob's father was Aaron, a rabbi?

So far I have not be able to find a trace of the FRANK branch of my
family before they arrived in the USA and started appearing in the
NYC census. I know they lived in the Bronx and in Brooklyn.

Jacob and Fanny are long gone, as are most of the family that would
have known anything. I am just hoping that because I have rabbis in
the family that that will provide some way to find something.

Thanks
Carol Graham

I have just been told that my great grandfather Jacob Kopel FRANK
was the son of a rabbi who married the daughter of a rabbi (Fanny
Judith KARMEL). I am told that Jacob was born in Babruysk, in June
of 1861. Jacob's father was Aaron, a rabbi?

So far I have not be able to find a trace of the FRANK branch of my
family before they arrived in the USA and started appearing in the
NYC census. I know they lived in the Bronx and in Brooklyn.

Jacob and Fanny are long gone, as are most of the family that would
have known anything. I am just hoping that because I have rabbis in
the family that that will provide some way to find something.

Thanks
Carol Graham

I ended Pt I with a brief reference to the special relationship between Isaak
HEILMAN and Low Jakob MAUTNER of the Pardubitzer Herrschaft, which is now
examined below in greater detail.

We know >from earlier disussions [see our message archives] that the Schutzjuden
had a special status in society in Bohemia and Moravia. They paid Schutzgeld
[protection money] to the local lord [Schutzherr] for the privilege of living
on his estates. Jews without *Schutz*, were very vulnerable and could expelled
at a moment's notice.

Jews in the town of Pardubitz {Pardubice], Chrudimer Kreis, had a difficult
history. There were very few Jewish families residing there in the 1600s and
all Jews were expelled >from the town in 1662.

In 1793 there were only two Jewish families in Pardubitz town, namely those
of Aaron KRAUS and Low Jacob MAUTNER. Both are mentioned a few times in the
lengthy article {in Czech} in Ref. 2, which I could not read, however it was
already clear to me >from the 1793 census that they were important personages.

Aaron KRAUS and wife Rosalia had six sons, in birth order: Simon, twins Moyses
and Joseph, Jacob, Bernard and Willhelm. Theresia was the only daughter. There
was a servant who doubled up as a tutor - Lazar HAAS.

Then comes an interesting statement: Aaron KRAUS was *without Schutz*, being
exempted as the lessee of the Herrschaftliches Lederhaus - ie he had the leather
concession >from the Schutzherr of Pardubitz.

Low Jacob MAUTNER sounds even more exalted - for he lives in the Schloss [castle]
itself! He has the distilling concession and owns "188 Metzen Ackern" of meadows
[discussed in part III]. He has a wife Esther, a friend, Maria PRAGER [could
this mean, a mistress?], sons Sigmund and Joseph and daughter, Dorothea.

But now here comes the interesting connection with Isaak HEILMANN of the
previous posting. Isaak HEILMANN of Brozan is stated as having sold his own
Schutz in 1790 to the above, wealthy Low Jacob MAUTNER.

What could this mean? It appears that these Familianten and Schutz positions
were tradeable commodities. Was HEILMANN thinking of leaving the area for
Moravia or Poland perhaps to join his sons Abraham or Marcus? Was he short
of money in his business or did he need money to buy a Familianten licence
for his second-born son, Marcus? All these are possibilites. Dave Bernard of
Boston recently wrote to us about the value of a Familianten licence [see
archives].

Also in one of the outlying villages in the Herrschaft we find Low HOSTOWSKY
[wife Barbara, sons Isaak, Samuel Abraham & Faltin, daughter Anna - his two
brothers Marcus HOSTOWSKY and David REICH [sic] live with him plus two servants].
Low HOSTOWSKY has the tobacco concession. He is also exempt >from the Schutzgeld
[in German: ohne Schutz weil er als Tabak Trafikant privilegiert ist - ie: he
is privileged because of this position in the tobacco business.

It seems strange that KRAUS and HOSTOWSKY did not require a Schutz for the
leather and tobacco concessions yet MAUTNER required one to live in the castle
and carry on his distilling.

In Prof Sakar's article [Ref 2] we read, thanks to Hanus Grab's translation:
The Pardubitzer Herrschaft Schutzherr residing in the Castle, received a total
of 262 gold pieces [Thaler?] plus 30 Kreutzer coins and 220 gold pieces plus
30 Kreutzer coins as Schutzgeld for 1793 and 1801 respectively. I can find 31
families with Schutz in the Pardubitzer Herrschaft in 1793 and 10 without Schutz,
so each Schutzjude must have contributed about 9 gold Thaler as Schutzgeld per
annum to subsidise the lifestyle of the Schutzherr [probably a Count Pernstein].
No wonder, the Schutzherren welcomed Jews to live on their estates.

There are also a few other older residents in the Pardubitzer Herrschaft who
gave up their Schutz to one of their sons, presumably because the younger
generation needed the protection and could afford to pay the money and hopefully
their parents lived safely and happily with them till they died.

Looking carefully at the small print of the Pardubitzer Herrschaft in 1793 has
certainly been an unexpected bonanza - all thanks to Jan Hellmann's original
question re his forebears!

Celia Male [U.K.]

References:

1. {not accessed} Rokycana, Jaroslav: Zur Geschichte der Juden in Pardubitz.
Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft fur Geschichte der Juden in der Cechoslovakischen
Republik 4 (1932) 485-495. {History of the Jews of Pardubitz]

2 Hugo Gold [Brunn 1934]: The History of the Jews in Pardubitz by Prof. J.
Sakar, Prague [in Czech and hence not accessible to me] >from "Die Juden und
Judengemeinde Bohmens".

3: General re Pardubitz in Czech, German and English:
http://www.vokno.cz/lexikon/okres.asp?id=3770

4: Familianten books of Chrudimer Kreis in Prague State archives: VII/volume
VI - Pardubice - Part 2.

I ended Pt I with a brief reference to the special relationship between Isaak
HEILMAN and Low Jakob MAUTNER of the Pardubitzer Herrschaft, which is now
examined below in greater detail.

We know >from earlier disussions [see our message archives] that the Schutzjuden
had a special status in society in Bohemia and Moravia. They paid Schutzgeld
[protection money] to the local lord [Schutzherr] for the privilege of living
on his estates. Jews without *Schutz*, were very vulnerable and could expelled
at a moment's notice.

Jews in the town of Pardubitz {Pardubice], Chrudimer Kreis, had a difficult
history. There were very few Jewish families residing there in the 1600s and
all Jews were expelled >from the town in 1662.

In 1793 there were only two Jewish families in Pardubitz town, namely those
of Aaron KRAUS and Low Jacob MAUTNER. Both are mentioned a few times in the
lengthy article {in Czech} in Ref. 2, which I could not read, however it was
already clear to me >from the 1793 census that they were important personages.

Aaron KRAUS and wife Rosalia had six sons, in birth order: Simon, twins Moyses
and Joseph, Jacob, Bernard and Willhelm. Theresia was the only daughter. There
was a servant who doubled up as a tutor - Lazar HAAS.

Then comes an interesting statement: Aaron KRAUS was *without Schutz*, being
exempted as the lessee of the Herrschaftliches Lederhaus - ie he had the leather
concession >from the Schutzherr of Pardubitz.

Low Jacob MAUTNER sounds even more exalted - for he lives in the Schloss [castle]
itself! He has the distilling concession and owns "188 Metzen Ackern" of meadows
[discussed in part III]. He has a wife Esther, a friend, Maria PRAGER [could
this mean, a mistress?], sons Sigmund and Joseph and daughter, Dorothea.

But now here comes the interesting connection with Isaak HEILMANN of the
previous posting. Isaak HEILMANN of Brozan is stated as having sold his own
Schutz in 1790 to the above, wealthy Low Jacob MAUTNER.

What could this mean? It appears that these Familianten and Schutz positions
were tradeable commodities. Was HEILMANN thinking of leaving the area for
Moravia or Poland perhaps to join his sons Abraham or Marcus? Was he short
of money in his business or did he need money to buy a Familianten licence
for his second-born son, Marcus? All these are possibilites. Dave Bernard of
Boston recently wrote to us about the value of a Familianten licence [see
archives].

Also in one of the outlying villages in the Herrschaft we find Low HOSTOWSKY
[wife Barbara, sons Isaak, Samuel Abraham & Faltin, daughter Anna - his two
brothers Marcus HOSTOWSKY and David REICH [sic] live with him plus two servants].
Low HOSTOWSKY has the tobacco concession. He is also exempt >from the Schutzgeld
[in German: ohne Schutz weil er als Tabak Trafikant privilegiert ist - ie: he
is privileged because of this position in the tobacco business.

It seems strange that KRAUS and HOSTOWSKY did not require a Schutz for the
leather and tobacco concessions yet MAUTNER required one to live in the castle
and carry on his distilling.

In Prof Sakar's article [Ref 2] we read, thanks to Hanus Grab's translation:
The Pardubitzer Herrschaft Schutzherr residing in the Castle, received a total
of 262 gold pieces [Thaler?] plus 30 Kreutzer coins and 220 gold pieces plus
30 Kreutzer coins as Schutzgeld for 1793 and 1801 respectively. I can find 31
families with Schutz in the Pardubitzer Herrschaft in 1793 and 10 without Schutz,
so each Schutzjude must have contributed about 9 gold Thaler as Schutzgeld per
annum to subsidise the lifestyle of the Schutzherr [probably a Count Pernstein].
No wonder, the Schutzherren welcomed Jews to live on their estates.

There are also a few other older residents in the Pardubitzer Herrschaft who
gave up their Schutz to one of their sons, presumably because the younger
generation needed the protection and could afford to pay the money and hopefully
their parents lived safely and happily with them till they died.

Looking carefully at the small print of the Pardubitzer Herrschaft in 1793 has
certainly been an unexpected bonanza - all thanks to Jan Hellmann's original
question re his forebears!

Celia Male [U.K.]

References:

1. {not accessed} Rokycana, Jaroslav: Zur Geschichte der Juden in Pardubitz.
Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft fur Geschichte der Juden in der Cechoslovakischen
Republik 4 (1932) 485-495. {History of the Jews of Pardubitz]

2 Hugo Gold [Brunn 1934]: The History of the Jews in Pardubitz by Prof. J.
Sakar, Prague [in Czech and hence not accessible to me] >from "Die Juden und
Judengemeinde Bohmens".

3: General re Pardubitz in Czech, German and English:
http://www.vokno.cz/lexikon/okres.asp?id=3770

4: Familianten books of Chrudimer Kreis in Prague State archives: VII/volume
VI - Pardubice - Part 2.

Hello there,

Am new to JewishGen...! Therefore, I will be enormously grateful & endlessly
indebted to ANYBODY who may have/offer any information regarding following:

Maternal Grandmother: Zlatta (Goldie) Levitan/Levitt (born in 1900, in
Mogilev Podolski, Ukraine) who's had 3 brothers (all emigrated to U.S) & 2
or 3 sisters (who've stayed in the Russian Federation & whom I know NOTHING
about, except for names: Reva/Reeva (English:Rebecca), Havah (English: Eve)
& possibly Rachel. Brothers (Asher/Usher-in Yiddish, David/Dave/Toyve-in
Yiddish, Morris). Married to my maternal grandfather: Abraham/Avram Dubenko,
born in Ataki OR Soroki/Soroka ?!? (who's died in labor camp when separated

from wife & childern upon deportation to Siberia). Great grandparents' names

(on which side?!?): Eliezer/Lazer (English: Larry) & Beyle.

Paternal grandparents' (Romania) names: Solomon ("Didica") & Tsiporah
(Cecilia) Klammer (Clamer-in Romanian) originally, Austrian last name
(great-grandfather: Philip Klammer, was Austrian/Austro-Hungarian?!?).

Thank you ever-so much!

Please feel free & welcome to contact me with any possibly (hopefully)
relevant information directly via e-mail: israeli@sbcglobal.net

May many blessings be your daily share,

Avi Klammer

MODERATOR NOTE: Thanks for your inaugural posting, Avi. Your first move
shold be to register the names and places you are researching in the
JewishGen Family Finder. You may also be able to obtain information and
contacts by subscribing to and posting to other Lists which are more
closely focused on certain geographic areas - AustriaCzech SIG and
UkraineSIG are ones that come to mind, as well as Gesher Galicia.

Hello there,

Am new to JewishGen...! Therefore, I will be enormously grateful & endlessly
indebted to ANYBODY who may have/offer any information regarding following:

Maternal Grandmother: Zlatta (Goldie) Levitan/Levitt (born in 1900, in
Mogilev Podolski, Ukraine) who's had 3 brothers (all emigrated to U.S) & 2
or 3 sisters (who've stayed in the Russian Federation & whom I know NOTHING
about, except for names: Reva/Reeva (English:Rebecca), Havah (English: Eve)
& possibly Rachel. Brothers (Asher/Usher-in Yiddish, David/Dave/Toyve-in
Yiddish, Morris). Married to my maternal grandfather: Abraham/Avram Dubenko,
born in Ataki OR Soroki/Soroka ?!? (who's died in labor camp when separated

from wife & childern upon deportation to Siberia). Great grandparents' names

(on which side?!?): Eliezer/Lazer (English: Larry) & Beyle.

Paternal grandparents' (Romania) names: Solomon ("Didica") & Tsiporah
(Cecilia) Klammer (Clamer-in Romanian) originally, Austrian last name
(great-grandfather: Philip Klammer, was Austrian/Austro-Hungarian?!?).

Thank you ever-so much!

Please feel free & welcome to contact me with any possibly (hopefully)
relevant information directly via e-mail: israeli@sbcglobal.net

May many blessings be your daily share,

Avi Klammer

MODERATOR NOTE: Thanks for your inaugural posting, Avi. Your first move
shold be to register the names and places you are researching in the
JewishGen Family Finder. You may also be able to obtain information and
contacts by subscribing to and posting to other Lists which are more
closely focused on certain geographic areas - AustriaCzech SIG and
UkraineSIG are ones that come to mind, as well as Gesher Galicia.

At 1:33 PM +1000 on 8/19/05, Doug Mason wrote:

According to family tradition (records for Kurow, Poland are not
publiclyavailable), around 1876 Simha Biniem MANDELBAUM had a son
named Benyamin. Are the names "Biniem" and "Benyamin" variants of
one another?

Two of my relatives >from the Bialystok region are brothers, b. ca.
1915, named Bunyem and Benjamin. In the U.S. they were known as
Bernard (nicknamed Benny) and Ben, respectively.

David Brostoff

At 1:33 PM +1000 on 8/19/05, Doug Mason wrote:

According to family tradition (records for Kurow, Poland are not
publiclyavailable), around 1876 Simha Biniem MANDELBAUM had a son
named Benyamin. Are the names "Biniem" and "Benyamin" variants of
one another?

Two of my relatives >from the Bialystok region are brothers, b. ca.
1915, named Bunyem and Benjamin. In the U.S. they were known as
Bernard (nicknamed Benny) and Ben, respectively.

David Brostoff

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain announces

A GUIDE TO JEWISH GENEALOGY IN LITHUANIA

ISBN: 0-9537669-8-5 (140 pages p/b)

By: SAM AARON

"Genealogical research in Lithuania is often difficult because so many of
the old records >from Czarist times (1794 to 1917) were lost or destroyed.
Here is a practical guide that will tell you what types of records there
were, which have survived for each of the three provinces that Lithuania was
divided into, how to access them, and what information you can expect to
find.


Archives often take a long time to reply to researchers because of the large
number of enquiries they receive. The guide describes the large amount of
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up-to-date list of all these resources, and should help you make quicker
progress with your researches.


For beginners, the Guide explains how to identify your ancestral shtetl (the
small town in which Jews were obliged to live), how to start off your
research, and eventually find information on your ancestors. Included are
also suggestions as to where you can look for clues to your ancestors in UK,
USA, Israeli and South African records. The latter section should be useful
also to those researching their roots in Eastern European countries other
than Lithuania". The Guide includes a full list of original town names with
their current equivalents, and a map showing the location of approximately
150 of these.


Price: £5.95 plus postage (UK 80p, Europe £2.00, rest of world £3.00.This is
$16 at current exchange rates].

Orders to:

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Publications@jgsgb.org.uk

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Payment by cheques with orders payable to 'Jewish Genealogical Society of
Great Britain' or credit card giving:
Name as shown on card, Card number, Expiry date
Address where guide to be sent and if possible e-mail address in case of any
queries.

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain announces

A GUIDE TO JEWISH GENEALOGY IN LITHUANIA

ISBN: 0-9537669-8-5 (140 pages p/b)

By: SAM AARON

"Genealogical research in Lithuania is often difficult because so many of
the old records >from Czarist times (1794 to 1917) were lost or destroyed.
Here is a practical guide that will tell you what types of records there
were, which have survived for each of the three provinces that Lithuania was
divided into, how to access them, and what information you can expect to
find.


Archives often take a long time to reply to researchers because of the large
number of enquiries they receive. The guide describes the large amount of
information that can be directly accessed in on-line databases, or in
databases which are made available by e-mail to subscribers, and provides an
up-to-date list of all these resources, and should help you make quicker
progress with your researches.


For beginners, the Guide explains how to identify your ancestral shtetl (the
small town in which Jews were obliged to live), how to start off your
research, and eventually find information on your ancestors. Included are
also suggestions as to where you can look for clues to your ancestors in UK,
USA, Israeli and South African records. The latter section should be useful
also to those researching their roots in Eastern European countries other
than Lithuania". The Guide includes a full list of original town names with
their current equivalents, and a map showing the location of approximately
150 of these.


Price: £5.95 plus postage (UK 80p, Europe £2.00, rest of world £3.00.This is
$16 at current exchange rates].

Orders to:

JGSGB Publications
PO Box 180
St. Albans
Herts AL2 3WH
United Kingdom

Publications@jgsgb.org.uk

www.jgsgb.org.uk

Payment by cheques with orders payable to 'Jewish Genealogical Society of
Great Britain' or credit card giving:
Name as shown on card, Card number, Expiry date
Address where guide to be sent and if possible e-mail address in case of any
queries.

On September 4, 2005 the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Miami, Inc will
meet at the Federation Building at 4200 Biscayne Blvd. at 10 AM sharp.
Attendees may call for the Federation for directions at (305) 576-4000 as
the entrance has been changed. Please bring photo ID.

The program will include Joan Parker's report on the 25th International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies Conference in Las Vegas and a
discussion by Barbara Musikar on the newly published online 1911 Canadian
Census.

For more information, please contact Barbara Musikar: by e-mail at
bar945@hotmail.com.

Barbara Musikar
President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
Surfside, FL
bmusikar@atlanticbb.net

On September 4, 2005 the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Miami, Inc will
meet at the Federation Building at 4200 Biscayne Blvd. at 10 AM sharp.
Attendees may call for the Federation for directions at (305) 576-4000 as
the entrance has been changed. Please bring photo ID.

The program will include Joan Parker's report on the 25th International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies Conference in Las Vegas and a
discussion by Barbara Musikar on the newly published online 1911 Canadian
Census.

For more information, please contact Barbara Musikar: by e-mail at
bar945@hotmail.com.

Barbara Musikar
President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
Surfside, FL
bmusikar@atlanticbb.net

I am happy to report that Stephen Morse has just created the One-Step
English-language interface to the Gulag website that I announced previously

from an AVOTAYNU "Nu, What's New" (with permission). The interface tool can

be found on his one-step website (http://stevemorse.org) in a new section
called "Holocaust and Eastern Europe".

Stephen also just created a one-step interface to a Polish website also
reported in a recent issue of Nu-whats-new as being difficult to use for
a similar reason -- it was all in Polish. That interface is now also in
his "Holocaust and Eastern Europe" section.

Both of these databases are useful to Belarus researchers. Please share
your successes in finding data on these two databases using Steve's tools.

Thank you Steve for your contributions to genealogy research and making it
easier for all of us to find our ancestors.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

********************
There is now an online database at http://www.memo.ru of some 1.5 million
people, about 20,000 identified as Jewish, who were interned and died in
Soviet gulags form 1935-1955. Apparently it also includes persons executed
in Moscow. There are introductions at the site in Russian, German and
English, but currently the search engine and resulting information is only
in Russian.

Included for each person is last name, first name, patronymic, year of
birth, place of birth, nationality (Jewish is a nationality), education,
party membership, profession and place of work, place of residence, date of
arrest, arrest charge, date of decision, decision agency, law under which
convicted, sentence, date of execution, place of execution, date of
exoneration, exonerating agency, basis of exoneration and source of
information.

For those who do not have Russian keyboards, the Stephen P. Morse site
provides character for character transliteration of Roman alphabet letters
into Cyrillic. The Morse site is at http://www.stevemorse.org.
***************************

I am happy to report that Stephen Morse has just created the One-Step
English-language interface to the Gulag website that I announced previously

from an AVOTAYNU "Nu, What's New" (with permission). The interface tool can

be found on his one-step website (http://stevemorse.org) in a new section
called "Holocaust and Eastern Europe".

Stephen also just created a one-step interface to a Polish website also
reported in a recent issue of Nu-whats-new as being difficult to use for
a similar reason -- it was all in Polish. That interface is now also in
his "Holocaust and Eastern Europe" section.

Both of these databases are useful to Belarus researchers. Please share
your successes in finding data on these two databases using Steve's tools.

Thank you Steve for your contributions to genealogy research and making it
easier for all of us to find our ancestors.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

********************
There is now an online database at http://www.memo.ru of some 1.5 million
people, about 20,000 identified as Jewish, who were interned and died in
Soviet gulags form 1935-1955. Apparently it also includes persons executed
in Moscow. There are introductions at the site in Russian, German and
English, but currently the search engine and resulting information is only
in Russian.

Included for each person is last name, first name, patronymic, year of
birth, place of birth, nationality (Jewish is a nationality), education,
party membership, profession and place of work, place of residence, date of
arrest, arrest charge, date of decision, decision agency, law under which
convicted, sentence, date of execution, place of execution, date of
exoneration, exonerating agency, basis of exoneration and source of
information.

For those who do not have Russian keyboards, the Stephen P. Morse site
provides character for character transliteration of Roman alphabet letters
into Cyrillic. The Morse site is at http://www.stevemorse.org.
***************************

Hello, JCR-UK discussion group;

I am a new member; please forgive any errors made on my part, until I can
get the hang of things.

I am researching Griffith ABRAHAM who was married to Joan LEWIS 4 June 1749
in Llangyfelach, Wales. This marriage is recorded in the Bishop's
Transcripts. I have also found record of a death of a daughter, Rachel
ABRAHAM, in Llangyfelach 12 Apr 1751. Rachel was never baptized in the
local parish.

I am researching this family with the help of another ABRAHAM descendant
that lives in Llansamlet, Wales. He has access to records that I don't have
- but he hasn't been able to find any Jewish records for the area.

This is my question: My friend in Wales has linked all of the ABRAHAMs that
appear to have resided in this area of Wales. Griffith ABRAHAM appears to
not have had his first four children baptized in the local parish, but in
1758 he began baptizing his children in the Llansamlet parish. (Very close
to Llangyfelach) We are guessing this is when Griffith stopped practicing
Judaism. Is my logic fuzzy? Is there something that I am not seeing here?
Can I assume that Griffith was once Jewish, but left his faith?

I am having a very hard time finding records >from the 1700's that could
prove who my Griffith's father was, or his origins. Does anyone have any
ideas of where I could look?

I am so grateful to have found this group, I am hoping to finally find some
answers for my Griffith. Thank you for any help you can offer.

Mrs. Shannon Weber
Shannon.Weber@comcast.net
West Valley City, Utah USA

My research is focused on Griffith ABRAHAM and Joan LEWIS married in 1749

I am having trouble locating Ellis Island records for my grandfather's
family (Judah LADEN). I know >from his birth certificate that he was
born in 1898 in London. My cousin recalls hearing that the family came
to the US in 1901.

I have found an Ellis Island record for my great-grandfather, Solomon
LADEN, with an arrival date of 1923; however, according to the manifest,
he was already a US citizen at that time, with a naturalization date of
1906 in Brooklyn, NY. Solomon LADEN recorded his son Judah's birth, so
he was still in London in 1898. Given the 1898 birth and the 1906
naturalization, a 1901 arrival date makes sense. However, there is no
other passenger record for Solomon LADEN other than the 1923 record, and
none at all for Judah, any of his older sisters, or his mother.

I can't imagine them arriving anywhere other than Ellis Island, since
they settled in New York, but I'm wondering if, in fact, they did arrive
in a different entry port. Is anyone aware of any other routes they
might have taken to arrive in the US other than Ellis Island? Were
there any other routes used by immigrants between England and the US at
that time?

Carol Laden Marcus
Fair Lawn, NJ, USA

Hello, JCR-UK discussion group;

I am a new member; please forgive any errors made on my part, until I can
get the hang of things.

I am researching Griffith ABRAHAM who was married to Joan LEWIS 4 June 1749
in Llangyfelach, Wales. This marriage is recorded in the Bishop's
Transcripts. I have also found record of a death of a daughter, Rachel
ABRAHAM, in Llangyfelach 12 Apr 1751. Rachel was never baptized in the
local parish.

I am researching this family with the help of another ABRAHAM descendant
that lives in Llansamlet, Wales. He has access to records that I don't have
- but he hasn't been able to find any Jewish records for the area.

This is my question: My friend in Wales has linked all of the ABRAHAMs that
appear to have resided in this area of Wales. Griffith ABRAHAM appears to
not have had his first four children baptized in the local parish, but in
1758 he began baptizing his children in the Llansamlet parish. (Very close
to Llangyfelach) We are guessing this is when Griffith stopped practicing
Judaism. Is my logic fuzzy? Is there something that I am not seeing here?
Can I assume that Griffith was once Jewish, but left his faith?

I am having a very hard time finding records >from the 1700's that could
prove who my Griffith's father was, or his origins. Does anyone have any
ideas of where I could look?

I am so grateful to have found this group, I am hoping to finally find some
answers for my Griffith. Thank you for any help you can offer.

Mrs. Shannon Weber
Shannon.Weber@comcast.net
West Valley City, Utah USA

My research is focused on Griffith ABRAHAM and Joan LEWIS married in 1749

I am having trouble locating Ellis Island records for my grandfather's
family (Judah LADEN). I know >from his birth certificate that he was
born in 1898 in London. My cousin recalls hearing that the family came
to the US in 1901.

I have found an Ellis Island record for my great-grandfather, Solomon
LADEN, with an arrival date of 1923; however, according to the manifest,
he was already a US citizen at that time, with a naturalization date of
1906 in Brooklyn, NY. Solomon LADEN recorded his son Judah's birth, so
he was still in London in 1898. Given the 1898 birth and the 1906
naturalization, a 1901 arrival date makes sense. However, there is no
other passenger record for Solomon LADEN other than the 1923 record, and
none at all for Judah, any of his older sisters, or his mother.

I can't imagine them arriving anywhere other than Ellis Island, since
they settled in New York, but I'm wondering if, in fact, they did arrive
in a different entry port. Is anyone aware of any other routes they
might have taken to arrive in the US other than Ellis Island? Were
there any other routes used by immigrants between England and the US at
that time?

Carol Laden Marcus
Fair Lawn, NJ, USA

The Leo Baeck Institute Staff is already planning for the 2006 IAJGS
Conference in order to make sure that we can accommodate the research needs of the
anticipated large number of users during the conference period. We will issue
research guidelines and recommendations prior to the conference which will
enable us to have ready and available the collections you request when you arrive
at the reading room. We will also provide updated research requests to make
it easier for staff to answer inquiries. The LBI staff members have expertise
in many areas which may be useful to genealogists and are always willing to
help. I encourage you to submit requests and inquiries early (and be patient as
reponses may require some time), and to utilize our *** online catalog***
at: http://www.lbi.org

Karen Franklin Director, Family Research Program, LBI khsmus@aol.com

The Leo Baeck Institute Staff is already planning for the 2006 IAJGS
Conference in order to make sure that we can accommodate the research needs of the
anticipated large number of users during the conference period. We will issue
research guidelines and recommendations prior to the conference which will
enable us to have ready and available the collections you request when you arrive
at the reading room. We will also provide updated research requests to make
it easier for staff to answer inquiries. The LBI staff members have expertise
in many areas which may be useful to genealogists and are always willing to
help. I encourage you to submit requests and inquiries early (and be patient as
reponses may require some time), and to utilize our *** online catalog***
at: http://www.lbi.org

Karen Franklin Director, Family Research Program, LBI khsmus@aol.com