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ROTHSCHILD DNA Project #dna

DAVEDOC@...
 

Dear All,

Please consider joining my Rothschild DNA Project. Please go to
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/rothschild/ for information.

Thanks
David Rothschild


DNA Research #DNA ROTHSCHILD DNA Project #dna

DAVEDOC@...
 

Dear All,

Please consider joining my Rothschild DNA Project. Please go to
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/rothschild/ for information.

Thanks
David Rothschild


My visit to Ciechanow and Mlawa archives #poland #ciechanow

Alice Josephs
 

Hi everyone,

Well, I finally did it. I went to Poland for other purposes but spent a
day going with Krysztof Malczewski (JRI-Poland's representative in
Poland, known as Chris) and his Russian born assistant Lydia to
archives in Mlawa (where the pre 1905 records are kept) and Ciechanow
(post 1905 records).

I have to add that I didn't have time to look round Ciechanow (or
Mlawa) except for a meal in a local restaurant and a quick peep at the
local castle, but I do aim to go back again soon. Of course being with
Chris and Lydia smoothed the way, especially (as many of you probably
already know most of the records are in Russian Cyrillic, although some
First World War records are in German). You can see photos of Ciechanow
and Mlawa archives at http://ciechanow.tripod.com

To cut a long story short, I have now discovered my JABLUSZKO (JOSEPHS)
family does not seem to have been in Ciechanow after 1904, the year my
JABLUSZKO grandfather emigrated. However his mother's ROZENBERG family
probably was in Ciechanow right up to 1939.

You can see my JABLUSZKO family starting at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/wc02/wc02_235.htm

This starts with Josek JABULSZKO born about 1800 who married Dobra
JOSKOWNA. However it sounds as if JOSKOWNA may possibly be a Russian
patronymic rather than a surname. My grandfather's grandmother was
Estera Malka BENDER, So I am now also researching the BENDER family of
Ciechanow.

My great grandfather, also called Josek JABLUSZKO, married twice. His
first marriage was to Frymeta GOLDSZTEJN and his second to my great
grandmother Yetta (Judith) ROZENBERG, daughter of Jankiel ROZENBERG and
Brana born MILICH. So I am also now looking for the MILICH family.

I also visited Pultusk, the birthplace of my grandmother, Fanny (Feiga)
DON and her mother Leah born GOLDMACHER who married Chezkel or Heyman
DON/DAN for her second marriage. The bus to Ciechanow stopped first in
Pultusk, so you can see that even though my grandparents married in
London, UK they didn't stray far for marriage partners. I also visited
the Pultusk archives and also took photos. You can see those photos at
http://J-Pultusk.tripod.com

I do aim to go back to Ciechanow soon so that I have a chance to see
more of the town as well. Has anybody looked round the town?

And of course, please contact me if you think you think there is any
connection between my families and yours!

Alice Josephs
JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG BENDER MILICH JOSKOWNA Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER
GURMAN Pultusk, Poland.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


#Ciechanow #Poland My visit to Ciechanow and Mlawa archives #ciechanow #poland

Alice Josephs
 

Hi everyone,

Well, I finally did it. I went to Poland for other purposes but spent a
day going with Krysztof Malczewski (JRI-Poland's representative in
Poland, known as Chris) and his Russian born assistant Lydia to
archives in Mlawa (where the pre 1905 records are kept) and Ciechanow
(post 1905 records).

I have to add that I didn't have time to look round Ciechanow (or
Mlawa) except for a meal in a local restaurant and a quick peep at the
local castle, but I do aim to go back again soon. Of course being with
Chris and Lydia smoothed the way, especially (as many of you probably
already know most of the records are in Russian Cyrillic, although some
First World War records are in German). You can see photos of Ciechanow
and Mlawa archives at http://ciechanow.tripod.com

To cut a long story short, I have now discovered my JABLUSZKO (JOSEPHS)
family does not seem to have been in Ciechanow after 1904, the year my
JABLUSZKO grandfather emigrated. However his mother's ROZENBERG family
probably was in Ciechanow right up to 1939.

You can see my JABLUSZKO family starting at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/wc02/wc02_235.htm

This starts with Josek JABULSZKO born about 1800 who married Dobra
JOSKOWNA. However it sounds as if JOSKOWNA may possibly be a Russian
patronymic rather than a surname. My grandfather's grandmother was
Estera Malka BENDER, So I am now also researching the BENDER family of
Ciechanow.

My great grandfather, also called Josek JABLUSZKO, married twice. His
first marriage was to Frymeta GOLDSZTEJN and his second to my great
grandmother Yetta (Judith) ROZENBERG, daughter of Jankiel ROZENBERG and
Brana born MILICH. So I am also now looking for the MILICH family.

I also visited Pultusk, the birthplace of my grandmother, Fanny (Feiga)
DON and her mother Leah born GOLDMACHER who married Chezkel or Heyman
DON/DAN for her second marriage. The bus to Ciechanow stopped first in
Pultusk, so you can see that even though my grandparents married in
London, UK they didn't stray far for marriage partners. I also visited
the Pultusk archives and also took photos. You can see those photos at
http://J-Pultusk.tripod.com

I do aim to go back to Ciechanow soon so that I have a chance to see
more of the town as well. Has anybody looked round the town?

And of course, please contact me if you think you think there is any
connection between my families and yours!

Alice Josephs
JABLUSZKO ROZENBERG BENDER MILICH JOSKOWNA Ciechanow DON GOLDMACHER
GURMAN Pultusk, Poland.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealice/


Kedainiai Vital Records Project: an update #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <oz@...>
 

Translations of the Kedainiai vital records are progressing at a good pace;
occasionally it is even difficult to keep up with the proofing. All of the
20th century birth records (1901-1914) have been translated and were
distributed to qualified donors during June and July. The translator has now
completed all the birth records of the 1850 decade, and these translated
files are currently being proofed. They will be distributed to donors in the
near future.

BUT, the faster the translations, the quicker our funds deplete. Generous
contributions have been made by some Keidan researchers, but they cannot be
expected to support this translation project alone. Too many Keidaners have
not yet participated financially, although I continue to encounter the
surnames they are researching while proofing the translated records. Some
are waiting for these records to be posted on the ALD (All Lithuania
Database). That is an option, but it is not the best option.

Once the translated vital records are posted, they become part of a vast
searchable database . It is hardly the same as receiving intact files of
vital records for the entire Jewish community of Keidan for a given year.
The advantages of looking at the total picture are many.

A contribution of $100 will qualify you to receive all files of Kedainiai
translated vital records. If you have already made a lesser donation, you
can supplement it to become an eligible donor. Help keep this effort on
track and moving forward. Donations to LitvakSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/donor.htm
by check or credit card are tax-deductible. Please mail your contribution to
LITVAKSIG, Inc., File 50194, Los Angeles, CA 90074-0194
or fax the contribution form to 661/299-9198. You can email me privately
to receive the Vital Records form or for any further information.

L'shana tova to all.

Olga Zabludoff
Coordinator, Kedainiai VRI


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kedainiai Vital Records Project: an update #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <oz@...>
 

Translations of the Kedainiai vital records are progressing at a good pace;
occasionally it is even difficult to keep up with the proofing. All of the
20th century birth records (1901-1914) have been translated and were
distributed to qualified donors during June and July. The translator has now
completed all the birth records of the 1850 decade, and these translated
files are currently being proofed. They will be distributed to donors in the
near future.

BUT, the faster the translations, the quicker our funds deplete. Generous
contributions have been made by some Keidan researchers, but they cannot be
expected to support this translation project alone. Too many Keidaners have
not yet participated financially, although I continue to encounter the
surnames they are researching while proofing the translated records. Some
are waiting for these records to be posted on the ALD (All Lithuania
Database). That is an option, but it is not the best option.

Once the translated vital records are posted, they become part of a vast
searchable database . It is hardly the same as receiving intact files of
vital records for the entire Jewish community of Keidan for a given year.
The advantages of looking at the total picture are many.

A contribution of $100 will qualify you to receive all files of Kedainiai
translated vital records. If you have already made a lesser donation, you
can supplement it to become an eligible donor. Help keep this effort on
track and moving forward. Donations to LitvakSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/donor.htm
by check or credit card are tax-deductible. Please mail your contribution to
LITVAKSIG, Inc., File 50194, Los Angeles, CA 90074-0194
or fax the contribution form to 661/299-9198. You can email me privately
to receive the Vital Records form or for any further information.

L'shana tova to all.

Olga Zabludoff
Coordinator, Kedainiai VRI


Offer to copy documents: Belchatow #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I have 2 films out right now and another 2 films ordered.

The films are:
681039 & 681040 - currently out
681041 & 766354 - just ordered

Like Dayna I require the film #, name on document, year of event,
whether it's a birth, marriage or death and akt. #. I will scan
the record and email it to you.

Please respond privately.

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "dayna reader" <zoeys_mom@yahoo.com>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've recently ordered 3 films >from the LDS library
which have Jewish birth, marriage & death documents
from the towns of Sejny and Punsk.
They are film #s
1496954
747764
1191986


LUBLINSKI in Mstow (near Czestochowa) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

On my family tree, Majer LUBLINSKI and Giela/Gitla WOLBROM had a child in
Mstow, Poland (near Czestochowa) in 1864. I cannot read the name of the
child. Can you give me your opinion? It is underlined in heavy blue in the
graphic below.

http://www.benkazez.com/dan/-Help/0921.Lublinski.jpg

Dan Kazez

Ohio
TALMAN and ENGLANDER in the Czestochowa-Radomsko area
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/talman/
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/englander/

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Rom Natl Archives address #romania

Gert Lord <gitty1@...>
 

To all who would have this address- here it is.
Arhivele Nationale ale Romaniei
Bdul Regina Elisabeta nr. 49, Sector 5
050013 Bucuresti, ROMANIA

Have Fun! Gert Lord Yellow Springs Ohio


JRI Poland #Poland Offer to copy documents: Belchatow #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I have 2 films out right now and another 2 films ordered.

The films are:
681039 & 681040 - currently out
681041 & 766354 - just ordered

Like Dayna I require the film #, name on document, year of event,
whether it's a birth, marriage or death and akt. #. I will scan
the record and email it to you.

Please respond privately.

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "dayna reader" <zoeys_mom@yahoo.com>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've recently ordered 3 films >from the LDS library
which have Jewish birth, marriage & death documents
from the towns of Sejny and Punsk.
They are film #s
1496954
747764
1191986


JRI Poland #Poland LUBLINSKI in Mstow (near Czestochowa) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

On my family tree, Majer LUBLINSKI and Giela/Gitla WOLBROM had a child in
Mstow, Poland (near Czestochowa) in 1864. I cannot read the name of the
child. Can you give me your opinion? It is underlined in heavy blue in the
graphic below.

http://www.benkazez.com/dan/-Help/0921.Lublinski.jpg

Dan Kazez

Ohio
TALMAN and ENGLANDER in the Czestochowa-Radomsko area
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/talman/
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/englander/

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Romania SIG #Romania Rom Natl Archives address #romania

Gert Lord <gitty1@...>
 

To all who would have this address- here it is.
Arhivele Nationale ale Romaniei
Bdul Regina Elisabeta nr. 49, Sector 5
050013 Bucuresti, ROMANIA

Have Fun! Gert Lord Yellow Springs Ohio


Correction to yesterday's: Alperovich (aka Alpert) in Postawy, Kurenets, Vileika, Borisov and Myadel, and other towns #belarus

Ziegelman <zieg_exp@...>
 

The Registration No. for Notan/Nosen Zelik >from Kurenets was erroneously
reported in my posting of Sept. 21, 2005. It should read: Notan/Nosen Zelik
(b. 1825) >from Kurenets (Registration No. 184) .

By the way, I know of a descendent of this Notan/Nosen Zelik, whom I "met"
on the wonderful web site that documents 20th century Eastern European
Jewish life, www.centropa.org. His name is Vladimir Rabinovitch, and he
lives in Latvia.

Using the name "Notan" as a guide, I'm probably related to Vladimir, as well
as to other "Notan" Alperoviches, since I've got a Notan/Nathan in my Alpert
family..

Go to this site, and check for your cousins in the ARCHIVES, "Search by
name" section.
Kind regards,
Andi Alpert Ziegelman
Searching:
ALPEROVICH/ALPERT
MISHLER/MYSLI/MESHULI/MESULI
SUKKOT/SHOCHET aka FEINBERG-IN-THE-USA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Correction to yesterday's: Alperovich (aka Alpert) in Postawy, Kurenets, Vileika, Borisov and Myadel, and other towns #belarus

Ziegelman <zieg_exp@...>
 

The Registration No. for Notan/Nosen Zelik >from Kurenets was erroneously
reported in my posting of Sept. 21, 2005. It should read: Notan/Nosen Zelik
(b. 1825) >from Kurenets (Registration No. 184) .

By the way, I know of a descendent of this Notan/Nosen Zelik, whom I "met"
on the wonderful web site that documents 20th century Eastern European
Jewish life, www.centropa.org. His name is Vladimir Rabinovitch, and he
lives in Latvia.

Using the name "Notan" as a guide, I'm probably related to Vladimir, as well
as to other "Notan" Alperoviches, since I've got a Notan/Nathan in my Alpert
family..

Go to this site, and check for your cousins in the ARCHIVES, "Search by
name" section.
Kind regards,
Andi Alpert Ziegelman
Searching:
ALPEROVICH/ALPERT
MISHLER/MYSLI/MESHULI/MESULI
SUKKOT/SHOCHET aka FEINBERG-IN-THE-USA


Request for Exhibit Materials from Tykocin Museum #poland

Mark Halpern
 

Dear Friends:

Many of you know that the historic Tykocin Synagogue built about 1652 is
now a Judaica Museum operated by the Podlaskie (Provincial) Museum
authority. Many Jewish researchers visiting northeastern Poland have
visited this Museum and enjoyed its restored interior. For more
information about the Synagogue, please see
http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html.

The Tykocin Museum has been very kind to Jewish researchers. Recently
the Museum shared the 1905 Tykocin Jewish property tax list with
BIALYGen. This list has been transliterated and will be online in the
near future.

The Museum is now preparing an exhibit concerning Tykocin Jewish life
between the wars (1918-1939) and before. They have requested Tykocin
researchers to provide photos, documents, and other memorabilia for this
exhibit. If you have such materials, please contact me privately and we
can discuss the loan or copying of materials for this exhibit.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland Tykocin Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
Searching: PLONSKI >from Tykocin


JRI Poland #Poland Request for Exhibit Materials from Tykocin Museum #poland

Mark Halpern
 

Dear Friends:

Many of you know that the historic Tykocin Synagogue built about 1652 is
now a Judaica Museum operated by the Podlaskie (Provincial) Museum
authority. Many Jewish researchers visiting northeastern Poland have
visited this Museum and enjoyed its restored interior. For more
information about the Synagogue, please see
http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html.

The Tykocin Museum has been very kind to Jewish researchers. Recently
the Museum shared the 1905 Tykocin Jewish property tax list with
BIALYGen. This list has been transliterated and will be online in the
near future.

The Museum is now preparing an exhibit concerning Tykocin Jewish life
between the wars (1918-1939) and before. They have requested Tykocin
researchers to provide photos, documents, and other memorabilia for this
exhibit. If you have such materials, please contact me privately and we
can discuss the loan or copying of materials for this exhibit.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland Tykocin Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
Searching: PLONSKI >from Tykocin


Request for Exhibit Materials from Tykocin Museum #poland

Bialystoker
 

Dear Friends:

Many of you know that the ca. 1652 Synagogue in Tykocin is now a Judaica
Museum operated by the Podlaskie (Provincial) Museum authority. For more
information about the Synagogue, please see
http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html. The Tykocin Museum has been very
kind to BIALYGen and has shared, and will continue to share, information
of value to our members. One example is the 1905 Tykocin Jewish property
tax list, which was provided by the Museum, has been transliterated, and
will be online in the near future.

The Museum is now preparing an exhibit concerning Tykocin Jewish life
between the wars (1918-1939) and before. They have requested BIALYGen to
provide photos, documents, and other memorabilia for this exhibit. If
you have such materials, please contact me privately and we can discuss
the loan or copying of materials for this exhibit.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator
Searching: PLONSKI >from Tykocin


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Request for Exhibit Materials from Tykocin Museum #poland

Bialystoker
 

Dear Friends:

Many of you know that the ca. 1652 Synagogue in Tykocin is now a Judaica
Museum operated by the Podlaskie (Provincial) Museum authority. For more
information about the Synagogue, please see
http://ddickerson.igc.org/tykocin.html. The Tykocin Museum has been very
kind to BIALYGen and has shared, and will continue to share, information
of value to our members. One example is the 1905 Tykocin Jewish property
tax list, which was provided by the Museum, has been transliterated, and
will be online in the near future.

The Museum is now preparing an exhibit concerning Tykocin Jewish life
between the wars (1918-1939) and before. They have requested BIALYGen to
provide photos, documents, and other memorabilia for this exhibit. If
you have such materials, please contact me privately and we can discuss
the loan or copying of materials for this exhibit.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator
Searching: PLONSKI >from Tykocin


Re: Descendants of the "Smichat Chachamim"-Rabbi Naftali KATZ #rabbinic

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

On Friday, 2005.09.16, Yoni Ben-Ari wrote about the descendants of
the "Smichat Chachamim" - Rabbi Naftali Katz. That reminded me of
a misadventure that illustrates one of the common mistakes we
genealogists make:

Many years ago I was mislead [I misled myself] into believing that I
was a descendant of Rav Katz. I discovered, with great excitement,
that one of my rabbinical ancestors, Rav Eliezer Lippmann HaLevi,
ABD of Zuelz, Schlesien, [1740-1810], was married to Gittel, the
daughter of Rav Zvi Hirsch Samosz, ABD Hamburg/Altona, who was a
descendant of Rav Katz.

Wow!, I thought, so I'm also m'besar besaro [flesh and blood] of the
Smichat Chachamim, and also Rav Yehuda Loeb of Prague, the MaHaRaL,
and a pantheon of other famous Rabbanim going back to the Gaonim of
Pampedita in Babel, etc. I then devoted a huge effort in
researching him, his writings, his other descendants, etc. At great
expense and effort I managed to purchase a copy of his Smichat
Chachamim and his Tzva'a [Ethical Will].

While serenely cruising along, deepening my research, I came upon
the Memorbuch of the Jewish Community of Zuelz, Schlesien, at the
archives of the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem.
Rav Eliezer and his family were prominently memorialized on its
pages. Even his wife was mentioned: HaRabbanit Malka bat Baruch
[!?!]. But all the literature sources said his wife was Gittel bat
HaRav Zvi Hirsch Samosz. Alas, both were correct. Some further
research confirmed that Rav Eliezer was married no less than three
times, and his last marriage was to Gittel, when both were advanced
in age. All his children were >from his marriage to Malka bat
Baruch, daughter of a simple Jew, Baruch, who didn't even rate a
title like Reb, let alone Moreinu in the Memorbuch.

So here it was, in clear Hebrew words. Malka, not Gittel was my
ancestor, and that severed my patrimony of some thirty generations
of Rabbanim!

from this we learn not to trust information at face value. Often
there were prior or later marriages, and it's usually very hard to
assign the children to the right spouse.

I still have all the research, and the two books, which I would be
pleased to sell to genuine descendants of the Smichat Chachamim.
Please contact me privately.

Jim Bennett
Haifa


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Descendants of the "Smichat Chachamim"-Rabbi Naftali KATZ #rabbinic

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

On Friday, 2005.09.16, Yoni Ben-Ari wrote about the descendants of
the "Smichat Chachamim" - Rabbi Naftali Katz. That reminded me of
a misadventure that illustrates one of the common mistakes we
genealogists make:

Many years ago I was mislead [I misled myself] into believing that I
was a descendant of Rav Katz. I discovered, with great excitement,
that one of my rabbinical ancestors, Rav Eliezer Lippmann HaLevi,
ABD of Zuelz, Schlesien, [1740-1810], was married to Gittel, the
daughter of Rav Zvi Hirsch Samosz, ABD Hamburg/Altona, who was a
descendant of Rav Katz.

Wow!, I thought, so I'm also m'besar besaro [flesh and blood] of the
Smichat Chachamim, and also Rav Yehuda Loeb of Prague, the MaHaRaL,
and a pantheon of other famous Rabbanim going back to the Gaonim of
Pampedita in Babel, etc. I then devoted a huge effort in
researching him, his writings, his other descendants, etc. At great
expense and effort I managed to purchase a copy of his Smichat
Chachamim and his Tzva'a [Ethical Will].

While serenely cruising along, deepening my research, I came upon
the Memorbuch of the Jewish Community of Zuelz, Schlesien, at the
archives of the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem.
Rav Eliezer and his family were prominently memorialized on its
pages. Even his wife was mentioned: HaRabbanit Malka bat Baruch
[!?!]. But all the literature sources said his wife was Gittel bat
HaRav Zvi Hirsch Samosz. Alas, both were correct. Some further
research confirmed that Rav Eliezer was married no less than three
times, and his last marriage was to Gittel, when both were advanced
in age. All his children were >from his marriage to Malka bat
Baruch, daughter of a simple Jew, Baruch, who didn't even rate a
title like Reb, let alone Moreinu in the Memorbuch.

So here it was, in clear Hebrew words. Malka, not Gittel was my
ancestor, and that severed my patrimony of some thirty generations
of Rabbanim!

from this we learn not to trust information at face value. Often
there were prior or later marriages, and it's usually very hard to
assign the children to the right spouse.

I still have all the research, and the two books, which I would be
pleased to sell to genuine descendants of the Smichat Chachamim.
Please contact me privately.

Jim Bennett
Haifa