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* Passport on sale #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello,
The very well known online auction site is selling a Hungarian passport, dated 1947, belonging to Salamonovics Herman and his wife Holla"nder Margit. Maybe these folks are somebody's relatives. Search by "Jewish holocaust refugee Hungary passport" keywords.
Regards
Tom

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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Passport on sale #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello,
The very well known online auction site is selling a Hungarian passport, dated 1947, belonging to Salamonovics Herman and his wife Holla"nder Margit. Maybe these folks are somebody's relatives. Search by "Jewish holocaust refugee Hungary passport" keywords.
Regards
Tom

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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


ViewMate 5th Anniversary - Call for Success Stories #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

I'm pleased to post this message on behalf of Bernie Kouchel.

----------------------------------------

We are delighted to report that November 2005 marks the Fifth
Anniversary of the inauguration of JewishGen's ViewMate. To date over
7,000 images of items of historical value found lurking in family
collections have been uploaded for analysis. The many quality analysis
have aided researchers to discover new, valued information about their
family links and heritage.

We extend special thanks to the many giving volunteers who provide
translations and analysis and to the JewishGen volunteer team members,
for their time and effort.

If you've had an extraordinary success related to a ViewMate aided
analysis, please submit your story to the undersigned.

ViewMate: Where researchers post scanned images of photos and documents
and ask other researchers to help them translate or analyze the
contents. Details at: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/

--
Bernard Kouchel
bkouchel@jewishgen.org


Hungary SIG #Hungary ViewMate 5th Anniversary - Call for Success Stories #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

I'm pleased to post this message on behalf of Bernie Kouchel.

----------------------------------------

We are delighted to report that November 2005 marks the Fifth
Anniversary of the inauguration of JewishGen's ViewMate. To date over
7,000 images of items of historical value found lurking in family
collections have been uploaded for analysis. The many quality analysis
have aided researchers to discover new, valued information about their
family links and heritage.

We extend special thanks to the many giving volunteers who provide
translations and analysis and to the JewishGen volunteer team members,
for their time and effort.

If you've had an extraordinary success related to a ViewMate aided
analysis, please submit your story to the undersigned.

ViewMate: Where researchers post scanned images of photos and documents
and ask other researchers to help them translate or analyze the
contents. Details at: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/

--
Bernard Kouchel
bkouchel@jewishgen.org


Re: "Stangelberger" in German - Translation Please #general

Simon Barak
 

Stange in German means pole
Stangelberg means "the hill with the pole"
Stangelberger is somebody living in "the hill with the pole"
Dr Shimon Barak

Dr Katalin Got wrote:

I can not translate Stangel....I could not find Stangelberger or Stangel.....


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Stangelberger" in German - Translation Please #general

Simon Barak
 

Stange in German means pole
Stangelberg means "the hill with the pole"
Stangelberger is somebody living in "the hill with the pole"
Dr Shimon Barak

Dr Katalin Got wrote:

I can not translate Stangel....I could not find Stangelberger or Stangel.....


Gerer Genealogy #rabbinic

philapple@...
 

An article in the recent online edition of the Jerusalem Post
http://tinyurl.com/cdbab
includes the following statement:

"&#147;...Victoria Ortman, who happens to be a direct descendant
of Rabbi Yitzhak Meir Alter (1799-1866), founder of the Ger
Hassidic dynasty and known as HaRim, after his scholarly
works Chidushei HaRim.&#148;"

To what extent have genealogists traced the descendants of the
Chidushei HaRim? Is there a printed or online source one can
consult to look up Victoria Ortman or anyone else who is a
Chidushei HaRim descendant?

Phillip Applebaum
Oak Park, Michigan, USA


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Gerer Genealogy #rabbinic

philapple@...
 

An article in the recent online edition of the Jerusalem Post
http://tinyurl.com/cdbab
includes the following statement:

"&#147;...Victoria Ortman, who happens to be a direct descendant
of Rabbi Yitzhak Meir Alter (1799-1866), founder of the Ger
Hassidic dynasty and known as HaRim, after his scholarly
works Chidushei HaRim.&#148;"

To what extent have genealogists traced the descendants of the
Chidushei HaRim? Is there a printed or online source one can
consult to look up Victoria Ortman or anyone else who is a
Chidushei HaRim descendant?

Phillip Applebaum
Oak Park, Michigan, USA


Re: Naturalization Records by Notes in Passenger Record #general

Susan&David
 

Arnon: The Italian Genealogical Group has put online the index of the
NYC Brides.

http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBrides.stm

There are some likely candidates for the two sisters, I see Lena
BROMBERG, married in 1933 and Rose BROMBERG married in 1937.
as possibilities. If you can obtain their marriage records you can at
least determine their married names, and maybe progress >from there.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

arnonh wrote:

Hello, Dear Colleagues!

I am looking for the naturalization records of two cousins, Lena
BRUMBERG (born c1903) and Rose BRUMBERG (born c1906), the daughters of
Bessie/Basia and Sam/Samuel/Simon/Schiwen. I don't know if they ever
married (the family lived in NYC, but the daughters' names are not in
the new brides index on italiangen.org). They arrived in the US on 19
August 1922 as Lea and Roza BRUMBERG. Their passenger record has these
notes:

Lea 2-1002100 8/7/42
Roza 2-982554 5/28/42

As I understand them, these notations mean that for each of them, the
passenger record was checked in 1942 as part of their naturalization
process in a court in southern New York State. However, neither woman
appears in the Southern or Eastern District naturalization indexes under
the name BRUMBERG.

Their father filed a Declaration of Intention in 1937 and was
naturalized in 1943. Since they were adults at that time, they weren't
covered by their father's naturalization.

So, my question is:
If the women married, is there a way I can find their naturalizations
with the information I have?

Yours Sincerely,
Arnon Hershkovitz, Israel
arnonh@tapuz.co.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naturalization Records by Notes in Passenger Record #general

Susan&David
 

Arnon: The Italian Genealogical Group has put online the index of the
NYC Brides.

http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBrides.stm

There are some likely candidates for the two sisters, I see Lena
BROMBERG, married in 1933 and Rose BROMBERG married in 1937.
as possibilities. If you can obtain their marriage records you can at
least determine their married names, and maybe progress >from there.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

arnonh wrote:

Hello, Dear Colleagues!

I am looking for the naturalization records of two cousins, Lena
BRUMBERG (born c1903) and Rose BRUMBERG (born c1906), the daughters of
Bessie/Basia and Sam/Samuel/Simon/Schiwen. I don't know if they ever
married (the family lived in NYC, but the daughters' names are not in
the new brides index on italiangen.org). They arrived in the US on 19
August 1922 as Lea and Roza BRUMBERG. Their passenger record has these
notes:

Lea 2-1002100 8/7/42
Roza 2-982554 5/28/42

As I understand them, these notations mean that for each of them, the
passenger record was checked in 1942 as part of their naturalization
process in a court in southern New York State. However, neither woman
appears in the Southern or Eastern District naturalization indexes under
the name BRUMBERG.

Their father filed a Declaration of Intention in 1937 and was
naturalized in 1943. Since they were adults at that time, they weren't
covered by their father's naturalization.

So, my question is:
If the women married, is there a way I can find their naturalizations
with the information I have?

Yours Sincerely,
Arnon Hershkovitz, Israel
arnonh@tapuz.co.il


Re: "Stangelberger" in German - Translation Please #general

Dr.Katalin Got
 

*Like*: Goldberger, Silberberger.I can not translate
Stangel either but believe it has Polish origin or Latin.


Adam,
Word and name etymology both fascinate me. I could not find Stangelberger
or Stangel, but Berger means "person living on a mountain", >from Old High
German berg "mountain" - >from here:
http://tinyurl.com/7pllf

--
~Miryam Collins~
Auburn, CA >>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Stangelberger" in German - Translation Please #general

Dr.Katalin Got
 

*Like*: Goldberger, Silberberger.I can not translate
Stangel either but believe it has Polish origin or Latin.


Adam,
Word and name etymology both fascinate me. I could not find Stangelberger
or Stangel, but Berger means "person living on a mountain", >from Old High
German berg "mountain" - >from here:
http://tinyurl.com/7pllf

--
~Miryam Collins~
Auburn, CA >>>


Request for change to my records #general

Muriel C. Sanders
 

Although this subject has come up many times, I have just received a
request >from a family member asking me to omit mention of her second
marriage, which lasted a short time and bore no children. Knowing
her well, I agreed to her request. Now I'm wondering how far one
should go in replying to such a request? I'm in the midst of sending
my records to family members and asking them for updates. I wonder
how many requests of this nature I may get in the future? Please send your
thoughts on this subject to me privately. Thank you.
Muriel Sanders
musanders@atlanticbb.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Indeed, this issue was discussed in the past.
Please note that Muriel asked for private responses.
You may want to check the arcives to see past messages.
The archives are located at:
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Request for change to my records #general

Muriel C. Sanders
 

Although this subject has come up many times, I have just received a
request >from a family member asking me to omit mention of her second
marriage, which lasted a short time and bore no children. Knowing
her well, I agreed to her request. Now I'm wondering how far one
should go in replying to such a request? I'm in the midst of sending
my records to family members and asking them for updates. I wonder
how many requests of this nature I may get in the future? Please send your
thoughts on this subject to me privately. Thank you.
Muriel Sanders
musanders@atlanticbb.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Indeed, this issue was discussed in the past.
Please note that Muriel asked for private responses.
You may want to check the arcives to see past messages.
The archives are located at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop


Przedborz, Poland - Geographic DNA project #dna

sbloom@...
 

I am starting a Geographic DNA project with Family Tree DNA for
Przedborz, Poland (or close by). The idea is to find men and women
whose ancestry is >from that town who may potentially have common
ancestry. Though both men and women can be tested for this, the only
two tests available for this are the standard Y-DNA and mt-dna
tests, so you would have to have an ancestor >from Przedborz who is
in your pure paternal (father's father's father's father, etc.) or
pure maternal line (mother's mother's mother, etc.).

In the course of my genealogical research I have found folks from
one family marriying into another over several generations. If this
was a common practice for centuries, I would expect many folks in
the town have common ancestors, and this sort of testing could be
illuminating. At the same time, you will be finding potential
cousins. of course, this is a potential hypothesis for all shtetls,
or possibly all small towns in which it is taboo to marry outside of
one's religion or ethnic group.

Even if you don't have a direct female or male ancestor, you might
be able to find a surrogate (a brother for YDNA , a female cousin
for mtdna, etc.). In any case, I'd like to hear >from you, because
we might still be able to share genealogical research anyway.

Please contact me privately or check ftdna.com. If you have more
general comments on plausibility of the study, a post to the group
or a private email would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Steve Bloom
Farmville, VA


DNA Research #DNA Przedborz, Poland - Geographic DNA project #dna

sbloom@...
 

I am starting a Geographic DNA project with Family Tree DNA for
Przedborz, Poland (or close by). The idea is to find men and women
whose ancestry is >from that town who may potentially have common
ancestry. Though both men and women can be tested for this, the only
two tests available for this are the standard Y-DNA and mt-dna
tests, so you would have to have an ancestor >from Przedborz who is
in your pure paternal (father's father's father's father, etc.) or
pure maternal line (mother's mother's mother, etc.).

In the course of my genealogical research I have found folks from
one family marriying into another over several generations. If this
was a common practice for centuries, I would expect many folks in
the town have common ancestors, and this sort of testing could be
illuminating. At the same time, you will be finding potential
cousins. of course, this is a potential hypothesis for all shtetls,
or possibly all small towns in which it is taboo to marry outside of
one's religion or ethnic group.

Even if you don't have a direct female or male ancestor, you might
be able to find a surrogate (a brother for YDNA , a female cousin
for mtdna, etc.). In any case, I'd like to hear >from you, because
we might still be able to share genealogical research anyway.

Please contact me privately or check ftdna.com. If you have more
general comments on plausibility of the study, a post to the group
or a private email would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Steve Bloom
Farmville, VA


Fidella Fellman #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Does anyone know of any descendants of Fidella FELLMAN, born 1880, in
Austria, came to America in 1899 at the age of 19. Where she came >from in
Austria is not known and her parents' names are not known.

In 1900, as specified in the Census of that year, she lived in Doon, Iowa,
with her aunt Lizzie Gross' family, then probably moved with them to
Atlantic City, NJ, or Philadelphia, PA. Her married name is not known and
she is not found in the Ellis Island/Castle Garden Databases.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fidella Fellman #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Does anyone know of any descendants of Fidella FELLMAN, born 1880, in
Austria, came to America in 1899 at the age of 19. Where she came >from in
Austria is not known and her parents' names are not known.

In 1900, as specified in the Census of that year, she lived in Doon, Iowa,
with her aunt Lizzie Gross' family, then probably moved with them to
Atlantic City, NJ, or Philadelphia, PA. Her married name is not known and
she is not found in the Ellis Island/Castle Garden Databases.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


maps #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

My favorite place to ask for maps is the Library of Congress. They are
free and very smart dealing with name changes. I have won maps of Polish
towns, i.e. Tarnobrzeg on the auction site Allegro.
Gayle >from San Gabriel, Ca near LA


We Remember Turek, Poland! #general

Ada Holtzman
 

I am pleased to announce a new web page, part of my ZCHOR internet site,
dedicated to the memory of the Jewish community of Turek, Poland:
http://www.zchor.org/turek/turek.htm

Shalom

Ada Holtzman
www.zchor.org