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Jewish Soldiers in the Austria-Hungarian Army
#austria-czech
K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
Further to Fritz Neubauer's fascinating and informative posting about
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bravery awards to Jewish Soldiers in the Austria-Hungarian Army who were decorated in 1866,Fritz, do you know if similar summaries were published for Jewish soldiers and officers who served in the Austrian Army during 1914-1918? Both my late maternal step-Grandfathers, Dr. Josef Gold, born Wien 1894, and Josef Zipper, born Wien 1890, served in the Austrian Army, and both were awarded medals. My step-Father has his Father's Iron Cross, which I think was awarded to his Father (probably an ordinary soldier) who was badly wounded and invalided out of the Austrian Army, probably prior to his marriage in Wien in 1917. I do not know in which regiment, where, or in what capacity Josef Zipper served and was wounded. My other maternal step-GF - my late maternal Grandmother's second husband - Dr. Josef Gold, was a first leutnant in the 31st Infantry Regiment and was possibly awarded two medals (for bravery/distinguished service??), although I am not sure about this. I have a photo of him which was used for a 1921 monthly Wien tramway pass although he definitely had left the army by then and had completed his law studies at Wien University, which had been interrupted by the war. In the photo Josef Gold is shown wearing his uniform and there are two ribbons on the collar which I have been told were for bravery awards. However, as the photo is in black and white there is no way we can establish which ribbons/medals these might have been. I also have two other WWI photos of Josef. One shows him on horseback, with sword, with a group of other officers >from different regiments (all wearing different uniforms) - possibly at a military college (possibly Hainburg near Pressburg/Bratislava?). The other photo shows him with another officer (with three stars on his collar) - both wearing swords, probably taken in a photography studio in Wien - perhaps during leave? On the back of this photo is printed "Atelier Schullerbauer, Wien, 1, Rotenturmstr.17". The Gold family lived in Wein 1, Hoher Markt, after WWI up until Josef and his unmarried siblings and their Father (aged 90 years) fled separately in 1938-1940. I also have several photos of Josef in his Australian Army uniform, taken in the early 1940s when he was conscripted into the Australian Army 8th Labour Company after he was released >from internment after being transported here on the infamous DUNERA >from London. My late maternal GF (born Odessa) also fought in WWI - but on the Russian side - and was a prisoner-of-war of the Germans (perhaps the Austrians?) for three years until Russia withdrew its forces and Zaida was released and returned to Odessa where he was then conscripted to fight in the civil war. So it is possible my two maternal step-GFs might have fought against my maternal GF! I would be very grateful to find out if there are any publicly available information or databases online or other resources which could give me some more information about bravery awards to Austrian WWI soldiers and the regiments they served in and where they saw action. Also I would be very interested to find out about Russian POWs who might have been held prisoner by the Germans and/or Austrians >from 1914-1917. I understand the k.u.k. Archive in Wien does not have much information about ordinary soldiers although they might have information about commissioned officers. Many thanks for any leads. Lorraine Bertelsen Boho, Downunder
From: Fritz Neubauer <fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de>
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish Soldiers in the Austria-Hungarian Army
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K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
Further to Fritz Neubauer's fascinating and informative posting about
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
bravery awards to Jewish Soldiers in the Austria-Hungarian Army who were decorated in 1866,Fritz, do you know if similar summaries were published for Jewish soldiers and officers who served in the Austrian Army during 1914-1918? Both my late maternal step-Grandfathers, Dr. Josef Gold, born Wien 1894, and Josef Zipper, born Wien 1890, served in the Austrian Army, and both were awarded medals. My step-Father has his Father's Iron Cross, which I think was awarded to his Father (probably an ordinary soldier) who was badly wounded and invalided out of the Austrian Army, probably prior to his marriage in Wien in 1917. I do not know in which regiment, where, or in what capacity Josef Zipper served and was wounded. My other maternal step-GF - my late maternal Grandmother's second husband - Dr. Josef Gold, was a first leutnant in the 31st Infantry Regiment and was possibly awarded two medals (for bravery/distinguished service??), although I am not sure about this. I have a photo of him which was used for a 1921 monthly Wien tramway pass although he definitely had left the army by then and had completed his law studies at Wien University, which had been interrupted by the war. In the photo Josef Gold is shown wearing his uniform and there are two ribbons on the collar which I have been told were for bravery awards. However, as the photo is in black and white there is no way we can establish which ribbons/medals these might have been. I also have two other WWI photos of Josef. One shows him on horseback, with sword, with a group of other officers >from different regiments (all wearing different uniforms) - possibly at a military college (possibly Hainburg near Pressburg/Bratislava?). The other photo shows him with another officer (with three stars on his collar) - both wearing swords, probably taken in a photography studio in Wien - perhaps during leave? On the back of this photo is printed "Atelier Schullerbauer, Wien, 1, Rotenturmstr.17". The Gold family lived in Wein 1, Hoher Markt, after WWI up until Josef and his unmarried siblings and their Father (aged 90 years) fled separately in 1938-1940. I also have several photos of Josef in his Australian Army uniform, taken in the early 1940s when he was conscripted into the Australian Army 8th Labour Company after he was released >from internment after being transported here on the infamous DUNERA >from London. My late maternal GF (born Odessa) also fought in WWI - but on the Russian side - and was a prisoner-of-war of the Germans (perhaps the Austrians?) for three years until Russia withdrew its forces and Zaida was released and returned to Odessa where he was then conscripted to fight in the civil war. So it is possible my two maternal step-GFs might have fought against my maternal GF! I would be very grateful to find out if there are any publicly available information or databases online or other resources which could give me some more information about bravery awards to Austrian WWI soldiers and the regiments they served in and where they saw action. Also I would be very interested to find out about Russian POWs who might have been held prisoner by the Germans and/or Austrians >from 1914-1917. I understand the k.u.k. Archive in Wien does not have much information about ordinary soldiers although they might have information about commissioned officers. Many thanks for any leads. Lorraine Bertelsen Boho, Downunder
From: Fritz Neubauer <fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de>
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Lova SENDLER
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Vangheluwe Daniel <vangheluwe.smietan@...>
I am searching additional informations about Lova SENDLER, submitter of
testimony on Yad Vashem, 1957 Daniel VANGHELUWE
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Re: Some tips on searching...
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Lancy
I have a Fankel (for Jankel) and a Limshe (for Simche).
Lancy Spalter Kfar Tavor, Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lova SENDLER
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Vangheluwe Daniel <vangheluwe.smietan@...>
I am searching additional informations about Lova SENDLER, submitter of
testimony on Yad Vashem, 1957 Daniel VANGHELUWE
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Some tips on searching...
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Lancy
I have a Fankel (for Jankel) and a Limshe (for Simche).
Lancy Spalter Kfar Tavor, Israel
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West Virginia
#ukraine
Shelly Crane
Hello,
I am very fortunate to have a 95 year old great aunt to talk to on a regular basis. She always remembers something new when we speak, but sometimes the information is incomplete. However, there is always an element of truth that takes me on a new path of genealogy adventure and discovery! The latest bit of information is that we had cousins who lived in West Virginia, possibly near the Pennsylvania border. Unfortunately, they may have had a different last names. My aunt recalls some of these relatives owned a big department store and were quite well off. I imagine the time they lived there could have been as early as 1915 and beyond. If anyone out there knows a bit about the West Virginian Jewish community and/or had relatives immigrate there >from the Ukraine, please email me privately. The towns they might have come >from include: Belilovka, Berdychiv, Lipovets, Pliskov, Priluki, Samgorodok, Skvira, Vakhnovka, Zhytomyr or surrounding areas. I sent emails out privately, but in case someone was missed, a big thank you to all who helped me find a missing Ellis Island manifest. Very much appreciate everyone's generous spirit! Happy New Year, Shelly Crane crzprncess@aol.com USA Paris, France: LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY Ukraine: BERMAN, BLAS, BLEKHMAN, CHESSIN, CHOLODENKO, DICKTER, FELDMAN, FISCHER, GITERMAN, GLASS, KVACHINSKIJ, KWAIT, LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY, MEZHERITZKY, MORITZ, OSCHERANKO, PETROVSKI, SELDMAN, SHAPIRA, SHIFFMAN, WEXLER, ZEISLER Vilnius, Lithuania, FELMAN
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine West Virginia
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Shelly Crane
Hello,
I am very fortunate to have a 95 year old great aunt to talk to on a regular basis. She always remembers something new when we speak, but sometimes the information is incomplete. However, there is always an element of truth that takes me on a new path of genealogy adventure and discovery! The latest bit of information is that we had cousins who lived in West Virginia, possibly near the Pennsylvania border. Unfortunately, they may have had a different last names. My aunt recalls some of these relatives owned a big department store and were quite well off. I imagine the time they lived there could have been as early as 1915 and beyond. If anyone out there knows a bit about the West Virginian Jewish community and/or had relatives immigrate there >from the Ukraine, please email me privately. The towns they might have come >from include: Belilovka, Berdychiv, Lipovets, Pliskov, Priluki, Samgorodok, Skvira, Vakhnovka, Zhytomyr or surrounding areas. I sent emails out privately, but in case someone was missed, a big thank you to all who helped me find a missing Ellis Island manifest. Very much appreciate everyone's generous spirit! Happy New Year, Shelly Crane crzprncess@aol.com USA Paris, France: LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY Ukraine: BERMAN, BLAS, BLEKHMAN, CHESSIN, CHOLODENKO, DICKTER, FELDMAN, FISCHER, GITERMAN, GLASS, KVACHINSKIJ, KWAIT, LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY, MEZHERITZKY, MORITZ, OSCHERANKO, PETROVSKI, SELDMAN, SHAPIRA, SHIFFMAN, WEXLER, ZEISLER Vilnius, Lithuania, FELMAN
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Re: Searching for Shtetl
#ukraine
Doug Cohen
Where Once We Walked lists two:
Ignatovka, Belarus -- Described in Shtetl Finder as an agricultureal community 30 km northeast of Lutsk, this town does not appear in current gazatteers. Ignatovka (near Silnoye), Ukr.; Jewish prewar pop. 900. 45 km NW of Rivne at 50o54'/25o48'. Since Malin, Ukr is given at 50o46'/29o14', it's not very close; (a minute of longitude is approx. 0.4 miles - 3.5 degrees is therefore 3.5 x 60 x .4 miles = 85 miles away). I don't know if this is the one you're seeking or not. Good luck. Doug Cohen Lexington, MA dmc@dmcohen.com Les Shipnuck <lshipnuck@tamassociates.com> wrote: Searching for family shtetl: Ignatevka (variant: Ignatevska) thought to be located in the vicinity of Malin Station, a rail stop approximately 40 miles West of Kiev. I cannot find this village on any map that I have seen so far although Malin is easily found.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Searching for Shtetl
#ukraine
Doug Cohen
Where Once We Walked lists two:
Ignatovka, Belarus -- Described in Shtetl Finder as an agricultureal community 30 km northeast of Lutsk, this town does not appear in current gazatteers. Ignatovka (near Silnoye), Ukr.; Jewish prewar pop. 900. 45 km NW of Rivne at 50o54'/25o48'. Since Malin, Ukr is given at 50o46'/29o14', it's not very close; (a minute of longitude is approx. 0.4 miles - 3.5 degrees is therefore 3.5 x 60 x .4 miles = 85 miles away). I don't know if this is the one you're seeking or not. Good luck. Doug Cohen Lexington, MA dmc@dmcohen.com Les Shipnuck <lshipnuck@tamassociates.com> wrote: Searching for family shtetl: Ignatevka (variant: Ignatevska) thought to be located in the vicinity of Malin Station, a rail stop approximately 40 miles West of Kiev. I cannot find this village on any map that I have seen so far although Malin is easily found.
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Anyone heard of town 'Vikny' Russia? 1880's??
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
My answer is *No* - but I think it could be Wilna -
see the last two paragraphs, if you do not wish to read the preamble. When Michelle Sint wrote "has anyone heard of town 'Vikny' Russia" I decided to look at the images of the UK census itself. I found that if you entered *Vikny* as keyword and enter *no name* into a census search, on a well known genealogical website, only one family appeared in the whole of England & Wales in 1901, namely the SINT family of Mile End, who had obviously arrived in London ca 1895. This family was headed by Mark, a boot finisher and Fanny. Their first English-born child was Barnett born in 1896. Please note here that their 15 yr old son Nathan is a *cabinet-maker*. However, another search with the name SINT reveals 18 SINT and another Jewish family in Bethnal Green, headed by *cabinet-maker* Nathan and his family of craftsmen and women! Sadly, all it says about their origins is "Russia". They arrived in ca 1894. Their first English-born child was Louis, was also born in 1896. So could the two families be related? Could Nathan Jnr, the teenage cabinet-maker, be working with Nathan Snr? Could they have arrived together? The National Archives, Kew may have more leads re their place of origin. No SINT [even the apparently English SINT from Norfolk] appear in the 1891 or 1881 censuses so perhaps there are more transcription errors or perhaps the 1901 Bernard P SINT living in Sheffield with Samuel WIATER & family [another transcription error*] is an immigrant really born in ?. It is important to look at the images as they often reveal mistakes. In the large Bethnal Green SINT family there is a transcription error as Rebecca SINT is aged 10 years in the transcription but on the census form she is clearly seen as 10 months old! Furthermore, she is transcribed as having been born in England *before* the family arrived on these shores. So, please be careful when taking the UK census literally - it needs much interpretation. This leads me nowhere regarding to the location of *Vikny* but the Jri-pl site: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/ offered various Soundex alternatives: Wiekenie, Wguny, Wykna [Bukowina]; Wieleke [Tarnow]; Wicyn [Ukraine] etc, etc. If you enter Vikny into Yad vashem you get no victims, but with SINT, you find only one tragic victim, we remember here today: Dora ZOUMERFIELD nee SINT was born in Wilna, Poland in 1890 to Max SINT and Sara Jakob; dob 29/12/1890; married to Benjamin; living in Paris during wartime; place of death: Auschwitz; date of death 29/08/1942. So could the census enumerator have mistaken Wilna/Vilna for Vikny - is that how it might have been prounounced in Yiddish? I am sure there will be many other replies about this, but it did lead me to another interesting observation, I will write about next. Celia Male [U.K.] * Samuel Gambles WINTER, can clearly be seen as WINTER in the 1891 census [teapot handle maker] and also in 1881. This shows that whenever possible, one must compare data in various years. With Jewish immigrants that may not always be feasible.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anyone heard of town 'Vikny' Russia? 1880's??
#general
Celia Male <celiamale@...>
My answer is *No* - but I think it could be Wilna -
see the last two paragraphs, if you do not wish to read the preamble. When Michelle Sint wrote "has anyone heard of town 'Vikny' Russia" I decided to look at the images of the UK census itself. I found that if you entered *Vikny* as keyword and enter *no name* into a census search, on a well known genealogical website, only one family appeared in the whole of England & Wales in 1901, namely the SINT family of Mile End, who had obviously arrived in London ca 1895. This family was headed by Mark, a boot finisher and Fanny. Their first English-born child was Barnett born in 1896. Please note here that their 15 yr old son Nathan is a *cabinet-maker*. However, another search with the name SINT reveals 18 SINT and another Jewish family in Bethnal Green, headed by *cabinet-maker* Nathan and his family of craftsmen and women! Sadly, all it says about their origins is "Russia". They arrived in ca 1894. Their first English-born child was Louis, was also born in 1896. So could the two families be related? Could Nathan Jnr, the teenage cabinet-maker, be working with Nathan Snr? Could they have arrived together? The National Archives, Kew may have more leads re their place of origin. No SINT [even the apparently English SINT from Norfolk] appear in the 1891 or 1881 censuses so perhaps there are more transcription errors or perhaps the 1901 Bernard P SINT living in Sheffield with Samuel WIATER & family [another transcription error*] is an immigrant really born in ?. It is important to look at the images as they often reveal mistakes. In the large Bethnal Green SINT family there is a transcription error as Rebecca SINT is aged 10 years in the transcription but on the census form she is clearly seen as 10 months old! Furthermore, she is transcribed as having been born in England *before* the family arrived on these shores. So, please be careful when taking the UK census literally - it needs much interpretation. This leads me nowhere regarding to the location of *Vikny* but the Jri-pl site: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/ offered various Soundex alternatives: Wiekenie, Wguny, Wykna [Bukowina]; Wieleke [Tarnow]; Wicyn [Ukraine] etc, etc. If you enter Vikny into Yad vashem you get no victims, but with SINT, you find only one tragic victim, we remember here today: Dora ZOUMERFIELD nee SINT was born in Wilna, Poland in 1890 to Max SINT and Sara Jakob; dob 29/12/1890; married to Benjamin; living in Paris during wartime; place of death: Auschwitz; date of death 29/08/1942. So could the census enumerator have mistaken Wilna/Vilna for Vikny - is that how it might have been prounounced in Yiddish? I am sure there will be many other replies about this, but it did lead me to another interesting observation, I will write about next. Celia Male [U.K.] * Samuel Gambles WINTER, can clearly be seen as WINTER in the 1891 census [teapot handle maker] and also in 1881. This shows that whenever possible, one must compare data in various years. With Jewish immigrants that may not always be feasible.
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Re: Steamships and Using JewishGen
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phylliskramer1@...
Chaim Luria asked:>> If you have a picture of the steamship Ambria which served
the Glasgow- New York route for Hamburg America Lines in the 1890's, please contact me directly. I have searched all of the resources on the internet and have not been successful. But Chaim, you didnt look on JewishGen. How very often we look all over the web but not on our "home base". Here's what I did: I went onto JewishGen's home page and clicked on Ellis Island. Steve Morse has written some wonderful queries for all types of research connected to Ellis Island. I then clicked on "additional search tools", which took me to his wonderful list of queries. There is one for ship's pictures. The second option, Ellis Island, had a photo of your Ambria Happy Chanukah and happy hunting! -- Phyllis phylliskramer1@att.net of Wilton Ct and Palm Beach Gardens,Fla VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc. Chair, PC Lab, 2006 NYC Jewish Genealogy Conference Researching STECHER, TRACHMAN, LINDNER, KANDEL, SCHEINER, KRAMER >from Galicia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Steamships and Using JewishGen
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phylliskramer1@...
Chaim Luria asked:>> If you have a picture of the steamship Ambria which served
the Glasgow- New York route for Hamburg America Lines in the 1890's, please contact me directly. I have searched all of the resources on the internet and have not been successful. But Chaim, you didnt look on JewishGen. How very often we look all over the web but not on our "home base". Here's what I did: I went onto JewishGen's home page and clicked on Ellis Island. Steve Morse has written some wonderful queries for all types of research connected to Ellis Island. I then clicked on "additional search tools", which took me to his wonderful list of queries. There is one for ship's pictures. The second option, Ellis Island, had a photo of your Ambria Happy Chanukah and happy hunting! -- Phyllis phylliskramer1@att.net of Wilton Ct and Palm Beach Gardens,Fla VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc. Chair, PC Lab, 2006 NYC Jewish Genealogy Conference Researching STECHER, TRACHMAN, LINDNER, KANDEL, SCHEINER, KRAMER >from Galicia
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Borshchagovaka
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Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
Through YDNA testing I have located family >from Borshchagovka. I would
appreciate anyone with information about this town to contact me. There is very little about it either on Jewishgen or Google. The family name was ZITOMAR or ZITOMERSKY. I also find very little information on Yad Vashem site. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova) PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Borshchagovaka
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Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
Through YDNA testing I have located family >from Borshchagovka. I would
appreciate anyone with information about this town to contact me. There is very little about it either on Jewishgen or Google. The family name was ZITOMAR or ZITOMERSKY. I also find very little information on Yad Vashem site. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova) PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)
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Re: Unique Surnames
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HPOLLINS@...
A Jewish soldier who was killed in WWI in the British army was called in the
official records SCKKOOL. He was born in Russia. In the British Jewry Book of Honour, a record of Jews who served in that war, he is listed as SCHOOL, presumably that being how his name was pronounced. Harold Pollins Oxford, England
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unique Surnames
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HPOLLINS@...
A Jewish soldier who was killed in WWI in the British army was called in the
official records SCKKOOL. He was born in Russia. In the British Jewry Book of Honour, a record of Jews who served in that war, he is listed as SCHOOL, presumably that being how his name was pronounced. Harold Pollins Oxford, England
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Unique one family surname: HIMMELHOCH
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Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
I am very fortunate in having the name HIM[M]ELHOCH as a one family
name. The family originated in Courland, now Latvia. Alexander Beider wrote in his Dictionary of Jewish Family Names in the Russian Empire that HIMMELHOCH was a "common name in Courland". How true!! The family took to heart the command to "be fruitful and multiply" and liberally populated Courland with HIMMELHOCHs! But all can be traced back to the same source. It seems that all modern offspring were told that if they ever find a HIM[M]ELHOCH in the phone book when they are in a strange town, they should feel free to call because we are all cousins. At least this is one family story that panned out with research! Channukah sameach!! Martha Lev-Zion IGS-Negev
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Unique one family surname: HIMMELHOCH
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Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
I am very fortunate in having the name HIM[M]ELHOCH as a one family
name. The family originated in Courland, now Latvia. Alexander Beider wrote in his Dictionary of Jewish Family Names in the Russian Empire that HIMMELHOCH was a "common name in Courland". How true!! The family took to heart the command to "be fruitful and multiply" and liberally populated Courland with HIMMELHOCHs! But all can be traced back to the same source. It seems that all modern offspring were told that if they ever find a HIM[M]ELHOCH in the phone book when they are in a strange town, they should feel free to call because we are all cousins. At least this is one family story that panned out with research! Channukah sameach!! Martha Lev-Zion IGS-Negev
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