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Sefer Podhajce: Memorial Book of Podhajce #general

Jean Rosenbaum <mervinr@...>
 

I am happy to announce that pages 114-150 of the Podhajce Yizkor Book have
now been translated into English and were added to the pages which were done
previously. You may read them at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Podhajce/Podhajce.html

Thansk to Lance Ackerfeld and Joyce Field for their continuing technical
support of this project and to Jerrold Landau for the beautiful translation.

Jean Rosenbaum
Baytown, TX
Gesher Galicia Town Leader for Podhajce


Re: re saying where you are #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Stan Goodman" < SPAM_FOILER@hashkedim.com > wrote

I don't think anyone who has contributed to this thread had in mind
that "saying where you are" means giving your complete address. What
we have been saying is that it is helpful to say that you are e.g. in
New York, California, Southern England, or Ultima Thule. It is very
difficult to see how such limited placement can contribute
meaningfully to identity theft or any other nefarious plan, or how it
can jeopardize the personal safety of even the most fastidiously
private individual, male or female.

Indeed, unless one has a very, very unusual name, the identification
of the nearest large city to one's residence is of no help to a
potential identity thief or stalker. Something like "Faye Levy of
Chicago" (a name and city I just pulled out of the virtual hat of my
imagination) would narrow your ID down to thousands. The fact is that
most identity theft is done >from information available publicly, not
from the kind of information that the JewishGen moderator would
conceivably pass for publication.
Actually taking your example using http://www.infobel.com/usa/ there are no
Faye Levy's in Chicago and there is just one in New York.

I don't know what percentage of US telephone subscribers are ex-directory,
but this clearly only relates to those subscribers actually on the database.

I have looked at the London on-line phone directory.

I have taken the most popular name, Smith, and chosen the initial L.

There are about 200 L Smith's.

In the London directory, unlike the US directory, only initials are used
rather than first names.

With the addition of first names, I would suggest that even with such a
popular name as Smith there would be a wide range of first names, and
therefore it would one would obtain few names of Smith plus a particular
first name.

It therefore seems to me that it would be quite easy to identify a
particular person >from the phone database, even in a large city - without
knowing their actual address.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sefer Podhajce: Memorial Book of Podhajce #general

Jean Rosenbaum <mervinr@...>
 

I am happy to announce that pages 114-150 of the Podhajce Yizkor Book have
now been translated into English and were added to the pages which were done
previously. You may read them at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Podhajce/Podhajce.html

Thansk to Lance Ackerfeld and Joyce Field for their continuing technical
support of this project and to Jerrold Landau for the beautiful translation.

Jean Rosenbaum
Baytown, TX
Gesher Galicia Town Leader for Podhajce


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: re saying where you are #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Stan Goodman" < SPAM_FOILER@hashkedim.com > wrote

I don't think anyone who has contributed to this thread had in mind
that "saying where you are" means giving your complete address. What
we have been saying is that it is helpful to say that you are e.g. in
New York, California, Southern England, or Ultima Thule. It is very
difficult to see how such limited placement can contribute
meaningfully to identity theft or any other nefarious plan, or how it
can jeopardize the personal safety of even the most fastidiously
private individual, male or female.

Indeed, unless one has a very, very unusual name, the identification
of the nearest large city to one's residence is of no help to a
potential identity thief or stalker. Something like "Faye Levy of
Chicago" (a name and city I just pulled out of the virtual hat of my
imagination) would narrow your ID down to thousands. The fact is that
most identity theft is done >from information available publicly, not
from the kind of information that the JewishGen moderator would
conceivably pass for publication.
Actually taking your example using http://www.infobel.com/usa/ there are no
Faye Levy's in Chicago and there is just one in New York.

I don't know what percentage of US telephone subscribers are ex-directory,
but this clearly only relates to those subscribers actually on the database.

I have looked at the London on-line phone directory.

I have taken the most popular name, Smith, and chosen the initial L.

There are about 200 L Smith's.

In the London directory, unlike the US directory, only initials are used
rather than first names.

With the addition of first names, I would suggest that even with such a
popular name as Smith there would be a wide range of first names, and
therefore it would one would obtain few names of Smith plus a particular
first name.

It therefore seems to me that it would be quite easy to identify a
particular person >from the phone database, even in a large city - without
knowing their actual address.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Re: New Free UK-Research Database #general

Remco <RemcoGenea@...>
 

For those of you researching ancestors who lived in the United Kingdom,
Ancestry.com, a fee-based service, is currently offering *free* access to a
new (beta) database of the actual images of the birth, marriage and death
indexes--I repeat *indexes*, not certificates!-- for England and Wales from
1837 - 1983.

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx

The civil registration system for births, marriages and deaths was
introduced in England and Wales in 1837. Registration was undertaken by
civil registrars who reported to the Registrar General at the General
Register Office (GRO) in London, now part of the Office for National
Statistics (ONS).

Getting access to the information on one of these certificates can be done
two ways:

One can use the partially completed FreeBMD search engine at:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
< Cut >

Thanks for mentioning this site, it has given me some records of persons
i've lost track of while searching in The Neterlands.

Kind regards,

Remco J Dietz,
The Netherlands, searching for
Dietz, Kempen, Schreurs & Westra
Boeken, (van de) Kar, Lisser & Vogel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New Free UK-Research Database #general

Remco <RemcoGenea@...>
 

For those of you researching ancestors who lived in the United Kingdom,
Ancestry.com, a fee-based service, is currently offering *free* access to a
new (beta) database of the actual images of the birth, marriage and death
indexes--I repeat *indexes*, not certificates!-- for England and Wales from
1837 - 1983.

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx

The civil registration system for births, marriages and deaths was
introduced in England and Wales in 1837. Registration was undertaken by
civil registrars who reported to the Registrar General at the General
Register Office (GRO) in London, now part of the Office for National
Statistics (ONS).

Getting access to the information on one of these certificates can be done
two ways:

One can use the partially completed FreeBMD search engine at:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
< Cut >

Thanks for mentioning this site, it has given me some records of persons
i've lost track of while searching in The Neterlands.

Kind regards,

Remco J Dietz,
The Netherlands, searching for
Dietz, Kempen, Schreurs & Westra
Boeken, (van de) Kar, Lisser & Vogel


Re: Connecting to distant cousins #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

As we say in hebrew "kol Hakavod to all of you". (If someone knows a real
english translation of that please post).

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel
Just today I was trying to find the translation of another Hebrew term
someone wrote in a message to me. I found this page, which is a faq for the
newsgroup soc.genealogy.jewish

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/11-Miscellaneous/section-4.html

It provides a list of commonly used phrases - the ones that are
considered to be so common, it's assumed everyone would know them.

They give this translation -

"Kol Hakavod (literal translation: all honor)
Used idiomatically to express praise or congratulations for an
achievement [H]"

The [H] is for Hebrew, because they also have Yiddish words there [Y]

Hope this helps,
Lisa
llepore@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The FAQ mentioned is for the newsgroup soc.culture.jewish. The
discussion of general Hebrew terms is considered off-list.
Please continue off-list.


Re: Connecting to distant cousins #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

As we say in hebrew "kol Hakavod to all of you". (If someone knows a real
english translation of that please post).

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel
Actually, many English-speaking Jews wouls simply say "kol ha-kavod."
Among my acquaintances, the expression is almost as well known as
"Shabbat Shalom!" even among people who don't know much Hebrew.

As for translating "kol hakavod to all of you" (i.e. when many
people are involved, as here) you can say "Congratulations all
round."

If it's only one person, you could try: "More power to you!" But
the translation that best catches the flavour of the original may be
the Australian expression: "Good on yer!"

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: The discussion of general Hebrew terms is considered off-list.
Please continue off-list.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Connecting to distant cousins #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

As we say in hebrew "kol Hakavod to all of you". (If someone knows a real
english translation of that please post).

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel
Just today I was trying to find the translation of another Hebrew term
someone wrote in a message to me. I found this page, which is a faq for the
newsgroup soc.genealogy.jewish

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/11-Miscellaneous/section-4.html

It provides a list of commonly used phrases - the ones that are
considered to be so common, it's assumed everyone would know them.

They give this translation -

"Kol Hakavod (literal translation: all honor)
Used idiomatically to express praise or congratulations for an
achievement [H]"

The [H] is for Hebrew, because they also have Yiddish words there [Y]

Hope this helps,
Lisa
llepore@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The FAQ mentioned is for the newsgroup soc.culture.jewish. The
discussion of general Hebrew terms is considered off-list.
Please continue off-list.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Connecting to distant cousins #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

As we say in hebrew "kol Hakavod to all of you". (If someone knows a real
english translation of that please post).

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel
Actually, many English-speaking Jews wouls simply say "kol ha-kavod."
Among my acquaintances, the expression is almost as well known as
"Shabbat Shalom!" even among people who don't know much Hebrew.

As for translating "kol hakavod to all of you" (i.e. when many
people are involved, as here) you can say "Congratulations all
round."

If it's only one person, you could try: "More power to you!" But
the translation that best catches the flavour of the original may be
the Australian expression: "Good on yer!"

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: The discussion of general Hebrew terms is considered off-list.
Please continue off-list.


"Correct" Way to Enter Main Name in Family Tree- Thank you & summary #general

Carolyn Lea <clea@...>
 

Thank you to the many respondents who gave me advice on name entry and which
name to use as the "main" name in entering information. I have tried to send
thank yous to all. It became apparent that many of us have questions and I
wanted to summarize briefly the consensus.

1. Enter birth name as main name
(Several say they put name change seperated by hyphen or in some other way)

2. Put name changes in alternate name location and/or in notes

3. If there is a concern about the index check your software preferences - I
found I could list aka's here if I set my preference - thanks to those who
said they had that option

4. A tip I found helpful - if you do not have a maiden name or last name put
(wife of ..., sister of ... ) until or if you locate that info - that will
certainly help with all my surnameless Hannah's in my index! A similar notation
can be used to identify unlinked individuals until you find the link.

All agree that consistency is the key. I remain undecided about putting a
name change beside the birth name - the advantage being that this makes it
readily apparent (w/o reading notes which I would still include) and helps
readers see the transition to the child. I would use brackets or something
rather than a hyphen because of current usage of hyphens by women and
couples using both the maiden name of the woman and the surname of the
husband.

Carolyn Lea
Ohio

clea@woh.rr.com
ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen>New York and Savannah,
Georgia ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia
BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia LEVISON> Prussia> Brunswick and Savannah,
Georgia OPPENHEIM > Savannah, Georgia WEINBERG > Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Correct" Way to Enter Main Name in Family Tree- Thank you & summary #general

Carolyn Lea <clea@...>
 

Thank you to the many respondents who gave me advice on name entry and which
name to use as the "main" name in entering information. I have tried to send
thank yous to all. It became apparent that many of us have questions and I
wanted to summarize briefly the consensus.

1. Enter birth name as main name
(Several say they put name change seperated by hyphen or in some other way)

2. Put name changes in alternate name location and/or in notes

3. If there is a concern about the index check your software preferences - I
found I could list aka's here if I set my preference - thanks to those who
said they had that option

4. A tip I found helpful - if you do not have a maiden name or last name put
(wife of ..., sister of ... ) until or if you locate that info - that will
certainly help with all my surnameless Hannah's in my index! A similar notation
can be used to identify unlinked individuals until you find the link.

All agree that consistency is the key. I remain undecided about putting a
name change beside the birth name - the advantage being that this makes it
readily apparent (w/o reading notes which I would still include) and helps
readers see the transition to the child. I would use brackets or something
rather than a hyphen because of current usage of hyphens by women and
couples using both the maiden name of the woman and the surname of the
husband.

Carolyn Lea
Ohio

clea@woh.rr.com
ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen>New York and Savannah,
Georgia ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia
BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia LEVISON> Prussia> Brunswick and Savannah,
Georgia OPPENHEIM > Savannah, Georgia WEINBERG > Georgia


Need help with handwriting on Marriage Certificate-ViewMate #general

avatom@...
 

Hello again. I have posted a copy of my grandfather's marriage certificate on
ViewMate as Abe/Sarah. I am having trouble reading Abe's mother's maiden name.
Have shown it to a number of people and they can't make it out either. It looks
to me like Mojchane Stern, but I've never heard of the name Mojchane. Abe was
from Russia and I don't think there is a "j" in cyrillic but the letter looks
like it has a dot over it. Also, can't tell if the surname is Stern or Stein.
So far, this is the only document I've found that lists his mother's name. Can
anyone familiar with this cursive writing help me out?

The direct link is
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7451

Please send your responses to me directly at AvaTom@comcast.net.
As always, thanks in advance.

Ava Cohn
Long Grove, IL

Searching: SHENKMAN/SCHEINKMAN (Volyntsy, Vitebsk Gub, Mozyr, Kiev, Riga);
HANDELMAN (Spivak, Spikow, Ukraine); COHN (Botosani, Bucharesti, Romania,
Jerusalem, Montreal); HAMMER (Chenovisti, Montreal);ABRAMS/ABROMOWITZ (Odessa)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help with handwriting on Marriage Certificate-ViewMate #general

avatom@...
 

Hello again. I have posted a copy of my grandfather's marriage certificate on
ViewMate as Abe/Sarah. I am having trouble reading Abe's mother's maiden name.
Have shown it to a number of people and they can't make it out either. It looks
to me like Mojchane Stern, but I've never heard of the name Mojchane. Abe was
from Russia and I don't think there is a "j" in cyrillic but the letter looks
like it has a dot over it. Also, can't tell if the surname is Stern or Stein.
So far, this is the only document I've found that lists his mother's name. Can
anyone familiar with this cursive writing help me out?

The direct link is
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7451

Please send your responses to me directly at AvaTom@comcast.net.
As always, thanks in advance.

Ava Cohn
Long Grove, IL

Searching: SHENKMAN/SCHEINKMAN (Volyntsy, Vitebsk Gub, Mozyr, Kiev, Riga);
HANDELMAN (Spivak, Spikow, Ukraine); COHN (Botosani, Bucharesti, Romania,
Jerusalem, Montreal); HAMMER (Chenovisti, Montreal);ABRAMS/ABROMOWITZ (Odessa)


International online telephone directories #general

Shelly Weiner <shellyjag619@...>
 

Dear all,
If you are in need of international online telephone directories, try the
following. It provides links to telephone directories for 197 countries.
There is no charge to use any of the directories.

Infobel World Directories

URL: http://www.infobel.com/teldir/default.asp

This site provides for finding and searching white pages plus yellow/business
phone listings for countries around the world. Click on a country
and the site will display the names, description, and links to various Web-based
phone directories covering that country.


I have no commercial interest in this site; I have used it frequently at work
when we get reference questions about international telephone directories.
Some directories are easier to use and updated faster than others.


Shelly Weiner
Henderson NV US
-------------
searching for:
BYCZOK/BYCHKOFF/BICHKOFF--Walkowisko, Poland to Detroit MI
FELDMAN (Hungary) to New Brunswick NJ
NOCHINOWSKI/NASH--Ostov, Russia to Detroit MI
RHYZI/ROSSEN--Vladimerets OR Stahovka,Ukraine to Detroit,MI
SMOLER/SMOLYAR/SMOLAR--Vladimerets Ukraine to Detroit MI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen International online telephone directories #general

Shelly Weiner <shellyjag619@...>
 

Dear all,
If you are in need of international online telephone directories, try the
following. It provides links to telephone directories for 197 countries.
There is no charge to use any of the directories.

Infobel World Directories

URL: http://www.infobel.com/teldir/default.asp

This site provides for finding and searching white pages plus yellow/business
phone listings for countries around the world. Click on a country
and the site will display the names, description, and links to various Web-based
phone directories covering that country.


I have no commercial interest in this site; I have used it frequently at work
when we get reference questions about international telephone directories.
Some directories are easier to use and updated faster than others.


Shelly Weiner
Henderson NV US
-------------
searching for:
BYCZOK/BYCHKOFF/BICHKOFF--Walkowisko, Poland to Detroit MI
FELDMAN (Hungary) to New Brunswick NJ
NOCHINOWSKI/NASH--Ostov, Russia to Detroit MI
RHYZI/ROSSEN--Vladimerets OR Stahovka,Ukraine to Detroit,MI
SMOLER/SMOLYAR/SMOLAR--Vladimerets Ukraine to Detroit MI


Elvire Rosemont....? #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear fellow FrenchSIGgers,

The email of one of the JewishGen members, who I believe lives in
Paris, is bouncing back.

I have searched in the Infobel France online phone directory but do not
find a listing for her. I wonder if by any chance one of you might
know her, or how to contact her. The name is: Elvire Klipper-Rosemont
. It is possible that she has a new email address, and does not
realize that is must be changed on JewishGen.

Should any of you know of her I would very much appreciate your sending
me information as to how and where she can be reached.

Many thanks,
Rosanne Leeson


French SIG #France Elvire Rosemont....? #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear fellow FrenchSIGgers,

The email of one of the JewishGen members, who I believe lives in
Paris, is bouncing back.

I have searched in the Infobel France online phone directory but do not
find a listing for her. I wonder if by any chance one of you might
know her, or how to contact her. The name is: Elvire Klipper-Rosemont
. It is possible that she has a new email address, and does not
realize that is must be changed on JewishGen.

Should any of you know of her I would very much appreciate your sending
me information as to how and where she can be reached.

Many thanks,
Rosanne Leeson


Re: Cemetery, Mile End Road #unitedkingdom

gsogush
 

During the 1987 Jewish genealogy conference in London, I was escorted to a
cemetery where my guide located the gravestones of my COHEN relatives. The
cemetery is located a short distance across Mile End Road, not far >from the
East London Synagogue where my maternal NEWMAN and JACOBS grandparents were
married on 08 July 1894. .

Thanks; I appreciate your interest.

Gertrude Singer Ogushwitz
Storrrs, CT USA

Related families: COHEN, FEINBERG, FRIEDMAN, JACOBS, NEWMAN, ROSENGLANS.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom re: Cemetery, Mile End Road #unitedkingdom

gsogush
 

During the 1987 Jewish genealogy conference in London, I was escorted to a
cemetery where my guide located the gravestones of my COHEN relatives. The
cemetery is located a short distance across Mile End Road, not far >from the
East London Synagogue where my maternal NEWMAN and JACOBS grandparents were
married on 08 July 1894. .

Thanks; I appreciate your interest.

Gertrude Singer Ogushwitz
Storrrs, CT USA

Related families: COHEN, FEINBERG, FRIEDMAN, JACOBS, NEWMAN, ROSENGLANS.