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Knesset Member Rabbi Israel Eichler #hungary

Danielle James <daniandw@...>
 

As my maternal gt-grandmother was an Eichler, would it be possible to
find out if there is any
connection, however tenuous, between her family and Rabbi Eichler.
Her family came >from Germany.

A relative sent me a picture Rabbi Israel Eichler meeting with Duki and
Eli Beer at the Hatzolah Offices.

Any suggestion would me most gratefully received. I am aware that
there are members >from Israel on this site

Danielle James
South Australia

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Knesset Member Rabbi Israel Eichler #hungary

Danielle James <daniandw@...>
 

As my maternal gt-grandmother was an Eichler, would it be possible to
find out if there is any
connection, however tenuous, between her family and Rabbi Eichler.
Her family came >from Germany.

A relative sent me a picture Rabbi Israel Eichler meeting with Duki and
Eli Beer at the Hatzolah Offices.

Any suggestion would me most gratefully received. I am aware that
there are members >from Israel on this site

Danielle James
South Australia

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Re: Unwanted replies--and how to get the replies you want #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

Oh my goodness, do you people read your own replies?

If someone is asking for your help and they have things set up so as to
eliminate spam, you are saying that somehow they should know ahead of
time that you will help only if they make it convenient for you?

If you don't like their setup, don't whine about it.

What happened to selfless, anonymouse charity and random acts of
kindness?

Zev Griner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unwanted replies--and how to get the replies you want #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

Oh my goodness, do you people read your own replies?

If someone is asking for your help and they have things set up so as to
eliminate spam, you are saying that somehow they should know ahead of
time that you will help only if they make it convenient for you?

If you don't like their setup, don't whine about it.

What happened to selfless, anonymouse charity and random acts of
kindness?

Zev Griner


Requesting translation of 1916 postcard at VM7741 #general

Martin Fischer
 

I would be very grateful if someone would translate into English the Yiddish
postcard written in 1916 >from someone in Neamt, Romania.

It is ViewMate 7741. Please see it at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7741

Thank you for your help.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA

Researching LANDMAN/LANDMANN/BEN ARTSI, JUSTER, ABRAMOVICI, BORIANU/BERMAN,
USEROVICI/ASHER, GRIEF, TEITLER and PAISS >from Bucharest, Targu Neamt,
Galati, and Focsani, Romania; and Israel and U.S.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Requesting translation of 1916 postcard at VM7741 #general

Martin Fischer
 

I would be very grateful if someone would translate into English the Yiddish
postcard written in 1916 >from someone in Neamt, Romania.

It is ViewMate 7741. Please see it at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7741

Thank you for your help.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA

Researching LANDMAN/LANDMANN/BEN ARTSI, JUSTER, ABRAMOVICI, BORIANU/BERMAN,
USEROVICI/ASHER, GRIEF, TEITLER and PAISS >from Bucharest, Targu Neamt,
Galati, and Focsani, Romania; and Israel and U.S.
------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Re: Unwanted replies--and how to get the replies you want #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

Michael Bernet, New York wrote in part -

==That's the whole point, I think. If you pose a question and hope for
responses >from "strangers," you have to reset your email to accept those
messages.
I get annoyed at these rejected messages as well, but I have come to
realize that some of these computer users do not have the technical
knowledge to adjust their programs correctly.

==as for the folks who have their computer robotically inform me
that before my message can reach them I will have to fill out a
form with my personal info and then beg to be allowed into the
sacred sanctuary.
This is the specific feature I am talking about - I think these people
get a message >from their ISP saying Look at this great new feature we have
for you - no more spam, blah, blah, blah. So the user installs it,
and has no idea idea how to adjust the settings of their program to allow
in mail they might want to receive. All they know is the ISP says it
will reduce the spam they receive, and that's a good thing.

The first time this happened to me, I was trying to send something to
my aunt. I had changed my email address, and my new one was not
in her address book, so my messages would not go through. It took
weeks for her to get it fixed [ she had to get someone else to do it
for her]

==another alternative, if you think my approach is too democratic or too
liberal, is to set up a special site to receive only jewishgen mail. You
never know, you may be surprised by receiving an unexpected message >from an
unexpected person that will clear up all the genealogical mysteries you
couldn't solve.
Computers are great but also require a certain level of technical
knowledge. Many writers to this and other genealogy boards are very
knowledgeable about genealogy or history, or a particular family name,
but not so with technology. I think we just need to be more tolerant of
them, because I don't think this anti-spam problem will go away .

Going right along with this are the people who unwittingly report
genealogy message boards' email addresses as spam because they do not
understand how their anti-spam program works

my 2 cents,
Lisa Lepore


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unwanted replies--and how to get the replies you want #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

Michael Bernet, New York wrote in part -

==That's the whole point, I think. If you pose a question and hope for
responses >from "strangers," you have to reset your email to accept those
messages.
I get annoyed at these rejected messages as well, but I have come to
realize that some of these computer users do not have the technical
knowledge to adjust their programs correctly.

==as for the folks who have their computer robotically inform me
that before my message can reach them I will have to fill out a
form with my personal info and then beg to be allowed into the
sacred sanctuary.
This is the specific feature I am talking about - I think these people
get a message >from their ISP saying Look at this great new feature we have
for you - no more spam, blah, blah, blah. So the user installs it,
and has no idea idea how to adjust the settings of their program to allow
in mail they might want to receive. All they know is the ISP says it
will reduce the spam they receive, and that's a good thing.

The first time this happened to me, I was trying to send something to
my aunt. I had changed my email address, and my new one was not
in her address book, so my messages would not go through. It took
weeks for her to get it fixed [ she had to get someone else to do it
for her]

==another alternative, if you think my approach is too democratic or too
liberal, is to set up a special site to receive only jewishgen mail. You
never know, you may be surprised by receiving an unexpected message >from an
unexpected person that will clear up all the genealogical mysteries you
couldn't solve.
Computers are great but also require a certain level of technical
knowledge. Many writers to this and other genealogy boards are very
knowledgeable about genealogy or history, or a particular family name,
but not so with technology. I think we just need to be more tolerant of
them, because I don't think this anti-spam problem will go away .

Going right along with this are the people who unwittingly report
genealogy message boards' email addresses as spam because they do not
understand how their anti-spam program works

my 2 cents,
Lisa Lepore


Seaside holidays for Norwood children #unitedkingdom

MavAlan Shaffer <mavalan_shaffer@...>
 

Dear UKJGenners,

Way back in the 1940s I believe there was a
letter/article in the Jewish Chronicle asking if
people (who lived at the seaside?) could offer Norwood
children a holiday.
Does anyone know the date of the JC in which the item
appeared?
At the time, my family were evacuees in
Weston-super-Mare, and my Aunt Dora (Zimmerman)
offered hospitality to 2 girls at her home at 34
Palmer Street in Weston.
The 2 girls were Joan Watson (Watts?) and Suzanna
Stern/e. I believe Joan was originally >from London
and Suzanna >from Birmingham.
My sister Joyce and I also stayed with my Aunt while
the girls were there on holiday.
I think we were all about 11 - 13 years old.

I would very much like to make contact with Joan and
Suzanna if anyone has any information.

With thanks.

Mavis Shaffer
Essex, UK

Researching AARONS (Minsk), GUREVICH (Minsk),
LEIBISKI (Lithuania)

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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Seaside holidays for Norwood children #unitedkingdom

MavAlan Shaffer <mavalan_shaffer@...>
 

Dear UKJGenners,

Way back in the 1940s I believe there was a
letter/article in the Jewish Chronicle asking if
people (who lived at the seaside?) could offer Norwood
children a holiday.
Does anyone know the date of the JC in which the item
appeared?
At the time, my family were evacuees in
Weston-super-Mare, and my Aunt Dora (Zimmerman)
offered hospitality to 2 girls at her home at 34
Palmer Street in Weston.
The 2 girls were Joan Watson (Watts?) and Suzanna
Stern/e. I believe Joan was originally >from London
and Suzanna >from Birmingham.
My sister Joyce and I also stayed with my Aunt while
the girls were there on holiday.
I think we were all about 11 - 13 years old.

I would very much like to make contact with Joan and
Suzanna if anyone has any information.

With thanks.

Mavis Shaffer
Essex, UK

Researching AARONS (Minsk), GUREVICH (Minsk),
LEIBISKI (Lithuania)

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Missouri State Archives Makes Deaths from 1910-1955 accessible on -line #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

The Missouri State Archives has made death certificates >from 1910-1955
accessible on-line. Death records after 1910 and are at least 50 years old
is available in a searchable index that links to a digitized image of the
original death certificate. The index can be searched by first name, last
name, county and by month and year. This is an ongoing project and not all
records are yet digitized- at this time only 1910-1920 images are available.
If you're unsure of the name, click Advanced Search to choose starts with,
ends with or contains options. You can order copies of post-1920 records by
clicking to generate a form you fill out and mail in with $1 per request
(the limit is five).
For more information go to:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/

Jan Meisels Allen, director
IAJGS and chairperson,
Public Records Access and Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Missouri State Archives Makes Deaths from 1910-1955 accessible on -line #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

The Missouri State Archives has made death certificates >from 1910-1955
accessible on-line. Death records after 1910 and are at least 50 years old
is available in a searchable index that links to a digitized image of the
original death certificate. The index can be searched by first name, last
name, county and by month and year. This is an ongoing project and not all
records are yet digitized- at this time only 1910-1920 images are available.
If you're unsure of the name, click Advanced Search to choose starts with,
ends with or contains options. You can order copies of post-1920 records by
clicking to generate a form you fill out and mail in with $1 per request
(the limit is five).
For more information go to:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/

Jan Meisels Allen, director
IAJGS and chairperson,
Public Records Access and Monitoring Committee


Bohemian Cemeteries #austria-czech

Michael Berger <mberger@...>
 

Does anyone know if there exists a register of burials in Bohemian
cemeteries?

Michael Berger / PT

Investigating: MANDELIK, BERGER


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Bohemian Cemeteries #austria-czech

Michael Berger <mberger@...>
 

Does anyone know if there exists a register of burials in Bohemian
cemeteries?

Michael Berger / PT

Investigating: MANDELIK, BERGER


YABLONKA (YEVLONKAH) family in Israel #general

Wayne N. Frankel <wnf9@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genealogists,

In the past I have been helped by JewishGen connections in making
contact with long-lost family (thanks again, Joe Fibel! Judy Baston!
Meir Raz!), and I was hoping that someone out there might, by
chance, have the connections to know about another family that I seek
- living in Israel with the surname YABLONKA. The names and
addresses (given below) were originally in an address book in our
family. The addresses could have been written anytime >from the
1950's - 1970's. I had assumed that the individuals listed had long
passed away until I found them (some with the exact same address!) in
the online Bezeq's phone directory. My guess now is that they are in
their late 70's or 80's. The corresponding branch of my family in
the US saved letters & postcards >from whom I assume was the mother,
grandmother, father and aunt, respectively, of these addressees.
These remarkable letters, mostly >from Zambrow and Bialystok and in
Yiddish, were written in late in 1938 and 1939. >from what I can
translate so far, the content are mostly terrestrial, nothing about
the impending doom of the Holocaust, but nevertheless quite touching
in their style and content, and interesting too.

The father, Leybl YABLONKA had been in Israel in the late 1930's,
working at Kfar Sava and living c/o Raichelson, and had taken sick
and was planning to come home - but I gather, never did. When my
cousin found this address book with these names in it, including
Leybl, it seemed that he survived his illness and remained in Israel.
But seeing the additional addresses in the address book made us think
that some of the children must have either come earlier or survived
the Holocaust and came to Israel afterwards. I think there must have
been at least 7 children in this family of Leybl and Yente YABLONKA
of Zambrow (in one of letters she writes "nokh 7 kinder in shtub,"
and already older children were married). My cousins here are
interested in learning more about this YABLONKA family (i.e. Yente &
Leybl), their KAPLAN siblings >from Bialystok (Icko & Esther, Yente's
sister) and what happened to them - including their grandparents
Rochel & Chaim DVORKOVITZ (who were my cousins g-grandparents through
a third sister & brother in law Dvora & Abraham SIEGEL in the US).

About a month ago I wrote an introductory letter to the three
YABLONKAS at the addresses below, in typed English, and an Israeli
colleague addressed the envelopes in Hebrew. Since there were three
addresses, I was a little surprised not to have heard back >from any
of them. Of course, there could be many reasons, not the least of
which that they may not read English - although I figured that at
least someone they knew should be able to help them, and they could
reply in Hebrew or even Yiddish if they wished. But I've heard
nothing. After some Google snooping, I had also emailed someone
named Hana YABLONKA, a historian who writes about Holocaust denial
and other things, thinking possibly that she knew other YABLONKA's
and perhaps the small chance that she was related to mine. Still,
silence.

So, I'm writing in case any of you have, by chance, the right
connections and know these YABLONKA's and perhaps can persuade them
to correspond and tell us something about the family. For our part,
we have letters and photos that we can share with them.

Thanks again for your help, if you have any tips.

Please respond _privately_.

Wayne Frankel
Bar Harbor, ME, USA
wnf9@verizon.net

-----

YABLONKA Addresses in Bezeq Directory:

Jacob and Helen Yablonka
(Yevlonkh Yakb & Hlnh Hlmd, ... Gbatiem)

Chaim & Miriam Yablonka
(Yevlonkh Hiem Ngr & Mrim, ... Bt Yem)

Ben Zion Yablonka
(Yevlonkh Bn Tzion, ... Bni Brk)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately. Complete addresses may
be had >from Bezeq or >from Wayne.


Brooklyn State Hospital records #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

Dear Genners:
Are medical records available for Brooklyn State Hospital for
1946-47? I am searching for records concerning the death of a
relative who died January 1947 after 10 days of hospitalization. (I
already have the death certificate.) What I am looking for is more
information about the illnesses which might have led to her death.
(i.e. her medical history/chart, etc) The diagnoses include mental
illness and we are trying to ascertain the duration of those symptoms.
Her son is willing to authorize a request but we want to know if such
information is available and , if so, where to write.
(For reasons of privacy, I will not disclose her name since there are
living relatives)

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen YABLONKA (YEVLONKAH) family in Israel #general

Wayne N. Frankel <wnf9@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genealogists,

In the past I have been helped by JewishGen connections in making
contact with long-lost family (thanks again, Joe Fibel! Judy Baston!
Meir Raz!), and I was hoping that someone out there might, by
chance, have the connections to know about another family that I seek
- living in Israel with the surname YABLONKA. The names and
addresses (given below) were originally in an address book in our
family. The addresses could have been written anytime >from the
1950's - 1970's. I had assumed that the individuals listed had long
passed away until I found them (some with the exact same address!) in
the online Bezeq's phone directory. My guess now is that they are in
their late 70's or 80's. The corresponding branch of my family in
the US saved letters & postcards >from whom I assume was the mother,
grandmother, father and aunt, respectively, of these addressees.
These remarkable letters, mostly >from Zambrow and Bialystok and in
Yiddish, were written in late in 1938 and 1939. >from what I can
translate so far, the content are mostly terrestrial, nothing about
the impending doom of the Holocaust, but nevertheless quite touching
in their style and content, and interesting too.

The father, Leybl YABLONKA had been in Israel in the late 1930's,
working at Kfar Sava and living c/o Raichelson, and had taken sick
and was planning to come home - but I gather, never did. When my
cousin found this address book with these names in it, including
Leybl, it seemed that he survived his illness and remained in Israel.
But seeing the additional addresses in the address book made us think
that some of the children must have either come earlier or survived
the Holocaust and came to Israel afterwards. I think there must have
been at least 7 children in this family of Leybl and Yente YABLONKA
of Zambrow (in one of letters she writes "nokh 7 kinder in shtub,"
and already older children were married). My cousins here are
interested in learning more about this YABLONKA family (i.e. Yente &
Leybl), their KAPLAN siblings >from Bialystok (Icko & Esther, Yente's
sister) and what happened to them - including their grandparents
Rochel & Chaim DVORKOVITZ (who were my cousins g-grandparents through
a third sister & brother in law Dvora & Abraham SIEGEL in the US).

About a month ago I wrote an introductory letter to the three
YABLONKAS at the addresses below, in typed English, and an Israeli
colleague addressed the envelopes in Hebrew. Since there were three
addresses, I was a little surprised not to have heard back >from any
of them. Of course, there could be many reasons, not the least of
which that they may not read English - although I figured that at
least someone they knew should be able to help them, and they could
reply in Hebrew or even Yiddish if they wished. But I've heard
nothing. After some Google snooping, I had also emailed someone
named Hana YABLONKA, a historian who writes about Holocaust denial
and other things, thinking possibly that she knew other YABLONKA's
and perhaps the small chance that she was related to mine. Still,
silence.

So, I'm writing in case any of you have, by chance, the right
connections and know these YABLONKA's and perhaps can persuade them
to correspond and tell us something about the family. For our part,
we have letters and photos that we can share with them.

Thanks again for your help, if you have any tips.

Please respond _privately_.

Wayne Frankel
Bar Harbor, ME, USA
wnf9@verizon.net

-----

YABLONKA Addresses in Bezeq Directory:

Jacob and Helen Yablonka
(Yevlonkh Yakb & Hlnh Hlmd, ... Gbatiem)

Chaim & Miriam Yablonka
(Yevlonkh Hiem Ngr & Mrim, ... Bt Yem)

Ben Zion Yablonka
(Yevlonkh Bn Tzion, ... Bni Brk)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately. Complete addresses may
be had >from Bezeq or >from Wayne.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn State Hospital records #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

Dear Genners:
Are medical records available for Brooklyn State Hospital for
1946-47? I am searching for records concerning the death of a
relative who died January 1947 after 10 days of hospitalization. (I
already have the death certificate.) What I am looking for is more
information about the illnesses which might have led to her death.
(i.e. her medical history/chart, etc) The diagnoses include mental
illness and we are trying to ascertain the duration of those symptoms.
Her son is willing to authorize a request but we want to know if such
information is available and , if so, where to write.
(For reasons of privacy, I will not disclose her name since there are
living relatives)

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


What happened to Edith VOGL ???? #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

Would any of you know what happened to Edith VOGL?

Edith's name appears on the passenger list of S.S. President Roosevelt
which sailed >from Le Havre and arrived in New York on Aug 4 1938. She
is described as a Secretary, aged 33, place of birth NYRSKO,
(Czechoslovakia) with the last permanent address in Nyrsko

There is no destination given.

Edith is one of the VOGL or VOGEL siblings I am searching for - they
have a right to reclaim their former home in the Czech Republic

The fuller story is as follows:

We are searching for the legal heirs of Ruzena VOGLOVA nee PORGES
The name outside the Czech Republic may well now be varied to Rosa
VOGL of similar.
[a photograph is posted at http: //remember.org/unite [I have a gap
after HTTP: - please remove the gap] and there under "Can you help us
find .... " ]

Ruzena was born 25 Sept 1875, in Rokitzan. Her father was Albert
Porges, her mother Marie PORGES, nee LAZANSKY

Ruzena was widowed >from her husband Filip , born 10 July 1868,
deceased probably on 29 Oct 1932.

VOGL
One Nazi document has her as Ruzena Sara VOGLOVA but the Sara is
likely to have been imposed under Nazi Law.

According to Czech police records, she left for the USA.

A letter was delivered to the Directorate of Police on 19. II.
(probably February) 1941 under Reg. No. 064215. She received
permission to emigrate on 20. II. 1941.

On 25 Feb 1941 she received confirmation >from Ministry of Social and
Health Administration that there was no objections against her emigration.

She asked for passport, which was issued on 3 March 1939, under Reg.
No. 8217/I. and received it on 14 March 1939

It appears that there had been an earlier application for a passport
in 1933 already, and that one seems to have been issued on 9 June 1933.

Ruzena had three children:

Ernestine, born 13 (or 18 ) Sept 1898 - she was divorced >from Karl
FISCHER, born 6 March 1892 - They had married on 12 November 1922 and
divorced on 7 Oct 1948

Edith (or Edita), born 1 (or 9 ) Dec 1904, in Czechoslovakia
unmarried at the time of emigration who left for the USA on 20 June 1939

Edith's name appears on the passenger list of SS President Roosevelt
from Le Havre on Aug 4 1938. She is described as a Secretary, aged
33, place of birth NYRSKO, with the last permanent address in Nyrsko

Arnold, born 1 November 1900, in Czechoslovakia, unmarried at the
time of emigration - he left for "abroad" (no known destination ) on
28 Dec 1939

As so often happens in these searches, we also have some
contradicting information.

According to the other set of data, Ruzena VOGLOVA left for Argentina.

This information comes >from decree on national administration issued
on 28 December 1953 according to which

"she was in somewhere in Argentina" and therefore "politically not
trustworthy".

According to the 1953 information, her departure >from the Czech
Republic is likely to have been in the period 1948 - 1953

As she is no longer alive, we need to trace her legal heirs living today.

You may well ask - why the 1941 permits, when Edith arrived in NY in
1938. I do not have answers to this.

Do you recognize any of this?

Can you guide us in any way?

If you have no information, do you know of anyone else, anywhere,
where we can ask?

Please e-mail me at davidlewin@btinternet.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What happened to Edith VOGL ???? #general

David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

Would any of you know what happened to Edith VOGL?

Edith's name appears on the passenger list of S.S. President Roosevelt
which sailed >from Le Havre and arrived in New York on Aug 4 1938. She
is described as a Secretary, aged 33, place of birth NYRSKO,
(Czechoslovakia) with the last permanent address in Nyrsko

There is no destination given.

Edith is one of the VOGL or VOGEL siblings I am searching for - they
have a right to reclaim their former home in the Czech Republic

The fuller story is as follows:

We are searching for the legal heirs of Ruzena VOGLOVA nee PORGES
The name outside the Czech Republic may well now be varied to Rosa
VOGL of similar.
[a photograph is posted at http: //remember.org/unite [I have a gap
after HTTP: - please remove the gap] and there under "Can you help us
find .... " ]

Ruzena was born 25 Sept 1875, in Rokitzan. Her father was Albert
Porges, her mother Marie PORGES, nee LAZANSKY

Ruzena was widowed >from her husband Filip , born 10 July 1868,
deceased probably on 29 Oct 1932.

VOGL
One Nazi document has her as Ruzena Sara VOGLOVA but the Sara is
likely to have been imposed under Nazi Law.

According to Czech police records, she left for the USA.

A letter was delivered to the Directorate of Police on 19. II.
(probably February) 1941 under Reg. No. 064215. She received
permission to emigrate on 20. II. 1941.

On 25 Feb 1941 she received confirmation >from Ministry of Social and
Health Administration that there was no objections against her emigration.

She asked for passport, which was issued on 3 March 1939, under Reg.
No. 8217/I. and received it on 14 March 1939

It appears that there had been an earlier application for a passport
in 1933 already, and that one seems to have been issued on 9 June 1933.

Ruzena had three children:

Ernestine, born 13 (or 18 ) Sept 1898 - she was divorced >from Karl
FISCHER, born 6 March 1892 - They had married on 12 November 1922 and
divorced on 7 Oct 1948

Edith (or Edita), born 1 (or 9 ) Dec 1904, in Czechoslovakia
unmarried at the time of emigration who left for the USA on 20 June 1939

Edith's name appears on the passenger list of SS President Roosevelt
from Le Havre on Aug 4 1938. She is described as a Secretary, aged
33, place of birth NYRSKO, with the last permanent address in Nyrsko

Arnold, born 1 November 1900, in Czechoslovakia, unmarried at the
time of emigration - he left for "abroad" (no known destination ) on
28 Dec 1939

As so often happens in these searches, we also have some
contradicting information.

According to the other set of data, Ruzena VOGLOVA left for Argentina.

This information comes >from decree on national administration issued
on 28 December 1953 according to which

"she was in somewhere in Argentina" and therefore "politically not
trustworthy".

According to the 1953 information, her departure >from the Czech
Republic is likely to have been in the period 1948 - 1953

As she is no longer alive, we need to trace her legal heirs living today.

You may well ask - why the 1941 permits, when Edith arrived in NY in
1938. I do not have answers to this.

Do you recognize any of this?

Can you guide us in any way?

If you have no information, do you know of anyone else, anywhere,
where we can ask?

Please e-mail me at davidlewin@btinternet.com