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Looking for family, possibly in Holland #general

PLevine300@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Looking for Marion GUMPEL LAANGELAAN or her son Frank Laangelaan , possibly
in Holland.

The Gumpel family fled Berlin and settled in Quito. Also Marion's sister's
children, last name Tabaro possibly in Quito or Ambato, Equador.


They are related to me through my mother's father, Eric Liebmann and his
sister who married a Gumpel .

Paulette Wolf Levine (Plevine300@aol.com) searching:
Wolf, Liebmann, Gumpel, Markus, Marcus, Cohn >from Berlin
SCHOENEMAN, >from Stutgart, Germany
LEVINE, HALPERN >from Ansinas, Latvia
SCHNEIDER, MAHLER >from Strzyzow
FISMAN >from Romania
GELFENBAIN (Gelfond) >from Kiev


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for family, possibly in Holland #general

PLevine300@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Looking for Marion GUMPEL LAANGELAAN or her son Frank Laangelaan , possibly
in Holland.

The Gumpel family fled Berlin and settled in Quito. Also Marion's sister's
children, last name Tabaro possibly in Quito or Ambato, Equador.


They are related to me through my mother's father, Eric Liebmann and his
sister who married a Gumpel .

Paulette Wolf Levine (Plevine300@aol.com) searching:
Wolf, Liebmann, Gumpel, Markus, Marcus, Cohn >from Berlin
SCHOENEMAN, >from Stutgart, Germany
LEVINE, HALPERN >from Ansinas, Latvia
SCHNEIDER, MAHLER >from Strzyzow
FISMAN >from Romania
GELFENBAIN (Gelfond) >from Kiev


Re: Facial Features Recognition Site #general

Marty <mdmajor@...>
 

Perhaps
http://www.myheritage.com/FP/Company/tryFaceRecognition.php

Marguerite DeVries Major
mdmajor@yahoo.com
Chittenango, NY, USA

Searching DeVRIES, Jacob, Amsterdam, Holland -> New York, NY
KATZ, Julia, Hesse, Germany -> New York, NY
DeVRIES, Julian, NY, NY -> Cleveland, OH -> Phoenix, AZ
DeVRIES, Therese -> Washington DC 1995, Potomac MD

A facial recognition database does exist, it has been developed
I think in Israel and I have visited the website twice, it is a
subscription based site but to prove the technology they offer
a free test where you can upload a picture of a celebrity and
it recognises them, or tells you which celebrity they most
closely match. Unfortunately I can't remember the address or
name of the site. Perhaps someone else can?

Ben Forman
Manchester UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Facial Features Recognition Site #general

Marty <mdmajor@...>
 

Perhaps
http://www.myheritage.com/FP/Company/tryFaceRecognition.php

Marguerite DeVries Major
mdmajor@yahoo.com
Chittenango, NY, USA

Searching DeVRIES, Jacob, Amsterdam, Holland -> New York, NY
KATZ, Julia, Hesse, Germany -> New York, NY
DeVRIES, Julian, NY, NY -> Cleveland, OH -> Phoenix, AZ
DeVRIES, Therese -> Washington DC 1995, Potomac MD

A facial recognition database does exist, it has been developed
I think in Israel and I have visited the website twice, it is a
subscription based site but to prove the technology they offer
a free test where you can upload a picture of a celebrity and
it recognises them, or tells you which celebrity they most
closely match. Unfortunately I can't remember the address or
name of the site. Perhaps someone else can?

Ben Forman
Manchester UK


Re: Opinion Survey - Facial Features Recognition #general

Adiva Bloch
 

I wrote directly to Alan that there is a site www.myheritage.com that
has facial recognition.

Hope this helps.

Adiva
Johannesburg, South Africa

On 7/25/06, Ben Forman <ben.forman@btconnect.com> wrote:
Hi Genners

A facial recognition database does exist, it has been developed I think
in Israel and I have visited the website twice, it is a subscription
based site but to prove the technology they offer a free test where you
can upload a picture of a celebrity and it recognises them, or tells you
which celebrity they most closely match. Unfortunately I can't remember
the address or name of the site.
Perhaps someone else can?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Opinion Survey - Facial Features Recognition #general

Adiva Bloch
 

I wrote directly to Alan that there is a site www.myheritage.com that
has facial recognition.

Hope this helps.

Adiva
Johannesburg, South Africa

On 7/25/06, Ben Forman <ben.forman@btconnect.com> wrote:
Hi Genners

A facial recognition database does exist, it has been developed I think
in Israel and I have visited the website twice, it is a subscription
based site but to prove the technology they offer a free test where you
can upload a picture of a celebrity and it recognises them, or tells you
which celebrity they most closely match. Unfortunately I can't remember
the address or name of the site.
Perhaps someone else can?


Re: "Rodesh" Shalom cemetery #general

Batya Olsen
 

I just wanted to thank all of you publicly (as well as privately) for
the help you gave me. Rodesh Shalom is a misspelling (>from a death
certificate, a source filled out in mourning and prone to errors) of
Rodeph Shalom. Their cemetery is Union Field on the Brooklyn/Queens
border. I've now been able to contact the cemetery and have Rebecca
and Meyer WACHT's burial plot.

Thank you again,

Batya

--
Batya Matzkin Olsen, Concord, Massachusetts USA batyaolsen@gmail.com
Researching: EISENSHMID/AJZENSHMIDT [any spelling] (Tsikhovolya, BY),
KAYOTSKY (Vidzy, BY), KELMAN (DE), KLONER (Postavy/Smorgon, BY),
MANFELD (Smorgon), MANFIELD (Sterling, Ill., US),
RUNKIN, MATZKIN (Vidzy & anywhere), ROSENBLUM (Postavy), SCHARER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Rodesh" Shalom cemetery #general

Batya Olsen
 

I just wanted to thank all of you publicly (as well as privately) for
the help you gave me. Rodesh Shalom is a misspelling (>from a death
certificate, a source filled out in mourning and prone to errors) of
Rodeph Shalom. Their cemetery is Union Field on the Brooklyn/Queens
border. I've now been able to contact the cemetery and have Rebecca
and Meyer WACHT's burial plot.

Thank you again,

Batya

--
Batya Matzkin Olsen, Concord, Massachusetts USA batyaolsen@gmail.com
Researching: EISENSHMID/AJZENSHMIDT [any spelling] (Tsikhovolya, BY),
KAYOTSKY (Vidzy, BY), KELMAN (DE), KLONER (Postavy/Smorgon, BY),
MANFELD (Smorgon), MANFIELD (Sterling, Ill., US),
RUNKIN, MATZKIN (Vidzy & anywhere), ROSENBLUM (Postavy), SCHARER


INTRO - Researching ROSENBERG, COHN & others #germany

Carlene Blumberg
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 3 years. I
consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in Sydney, Australia.. My native language is English .and I do not speak
any other language. I consider myself intermediate in using a computer. My
experience in using the Internet is intermediate.
I have identified the names and birth and death dates of some of my
ancestors, who I believe came >from Germany, Poland and Latvia or Lithuania.

My primary research goals now are to find out more about my ancestors, and
to find older generations as well as any other family members I may have missed.
Below is a summary of some of the information I have that I believe to be
correct.

1. Koppel ROSENBERG was born 28 July 1794 in Schloppe, and died 28 November
1862. He married Rebecka. She was born in (a place that sounds like)
Leney, and died 29 March 1839.
The only child I know about of Koppel & Rebecka ROSENBERG is:

2. Wolf ROSENBERG (KOPPEL) who was born 31 October 1835, and died 17 July
1908 in Germany. He married (1) Clara Abt. 1868. She was born 24 July 1848
in Neustettin, Germany, and died 23 February 1884 in Jewish Hospital,
Berlin, Germany. He married (2) Selma or Selina, the younger sister of his
late wife, Bet. 1885 - 1886. She was born 13 November 1861 in Neustettin,
Germany, and died 18 December 1954 in Sao Paolo, Brazil.

Children of Wolf ROSENBERG and Clara are:
3. i. Regina ROSENBERG, b. 10 November 1870; d. Bet.
1900 - 1902.
4. ii. Carl ROSENBERG, b. 25 May 1872, Baerwalde, Germany,
d. 21 April 1933, Johannesburg, South Africa.
5. iii. Franz ROSENBERG, b. 8 July 1873.
6. iv. Max ROSENBERG, b. 12 February 1875.
7. v. Martin ROSENBERG, b. 16 January 1879.

Children of Wolf and Selma (or Selina) ROSENBERG are:
vi. Kurt ROSENBERG, b. 29 March 1887; d. By Suicide.
8.. vii. Klara ROSENBERG, b. 19 September 1890.

Thank you in anticpation for your kind assitance.

Carlene BLUMBERG (nee ROSENBERG)
Sydney, Australia

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
ROSENBERG - Baerwalde, Pomerania to South Africa in about 1892.
COHN - Hamburg to South Africa sometime in the 1890's.
JACOBUS & KARK >from Schivelbein to Australia iin the 1930's.
BLUMBERG (formerly CHAIES) >from Zemil in Latvia or Lithuania to South Africa.
JACOBSON >from Lithuania to South Africa
SATILL >from Lithuania to South Africa
PHIEBIG >from Pomerania ? to Sao Paolo, Brazil in the 1930's.
SZAPIRA/E, SCHAPIRA/E, SHAPERO, SHAPIRO, SHAPEERO, SZAPU >from Zbaraz,
Galicia, Poland to England and subsequently to South Africa.
LEVINSTEIN, LIVINGSTON/E >from Suvalk (now Suwalki) and Plag/Plock to Engand
and subsequently to South Africa


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Researching ROSENBERG, COHN & others #germany

Carlene Blumberg
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 3 years. I
consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in Sydney, Australia.. My native language is English .and I do not speak
any other language. I consider myself intermediate in using a computer. My
experience in using the Internet is intermediate.
I have identified the names and birth and death dates of some of my
ancestors, who I believe came >from Germany, Poland and Latvia or Lithuania.

My primary research goals now are to find out more about my ancestors, and
to find older generations as well as any other family members I may have missed.
Below is a summary of some of the information I have that I believe to be
correct.

1. Koppel ROSENBERG was born 28 July 1794 in Schloppe, and died 28 November
1862. He married Rebecka. She was born in (a place that sounds like)
Leney, and died 29 March 1839.
The only child I know about of Koppel & Rebecka ROSENBERG is:

2. Wolf ROSENBERG (KOPPEL) who was born 31 October 1835, and died 17 July
1908 in Germany. He married (1) Clara Abt. 1868. She was born 24 July 1848
in Neustettin, Germany, and died 23 February 1884 in Jewish Hospital,
Berlin, Germany. He married (2) Selma or Selina, the younger sister of his
late wife, Bet. 1885 - 1886. She was born 13 November 1861 in Neustettin,
Germany, and died 18 December 1954 in Sao Paolo, Brazil.

Children of Wolf ROSENBERG and Clara are:
3. i. Regina ROSENBERG, b. 10 November 1870; d. Bet.
1900 - 1902.
4. ii. Carl ROSENBERG, b. 25 May 1872, Baerwalde, Germany,
d. 21 April 1933, Johannesburg, South Africa.
5. iii. Franz ROSENBERG, b. 8 July 1873.
6. iv. Max ROSENBERG, b. 12 February 1875.
7. v. Martin ROSENBERG, b. 16 January 1879.

Children of Wolf and Selma (or Selina) ROSENBERG are:
vi. Kurt ROSENBERG, b. 29 March 1887; d. By Suicide.
8.. vii. Klara ROSENBERG, b. 19 September 1890.

Thank you in anticpation for your kind assitance.

Carlene BLUMBERG (nee ROSENBERG)
Sydney, Australia

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
ROSENBERG - Baerwalde, Pomerania to South Africa in about 1892.
COHN - Hamburg to South Africa sometime in the 1890's.
JACOBUS & KARK >from Schivelbein to Australia iin the 1930's.
BLUMBERG (formerly CHAIES) >from Zemil in Latvia or Lithuania to South Africa.
JACOBSON >from Lithuania to South Africa
SATILL >from Lithuania to South Africa
PHIEBIG >from Pomerania ? to Sao Paolo, Brazil in the 1930's.
SZAPIRA/E, SCHAPIRA/E, SHAPERO, SHAPIRO, SHAPEERO, SZAPU >from Zbaraz,
Galicia, Poland to England and subsequently to South Africa.
LEVINSTEIN, LIVINGSTON/E >from Suvalk (now Suwalki) and Plag/Plock to Engand
and subsequently to South Africa


Standesaemter and Birth Certificates #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Lars Menk wrote:
Paragraph 61, sub-paragraph 1 of the German Personenstandsgesetz (law of
vital status) >from 08 Aug 1957 says that "the inspecting and examining of
registers of vital statistics and granting of vital status documents may
only be claimed by the authorities in the context of their responsibility
and by persons to which the record refers as well as by their husbands, ancestors
and descendants. Authorities have to indicate the purpose. Other persons only have
a right to inspect and examine the registers of vital statistics and to be granted
vital status documents when they make a legal interest credible."

My comment:
It is true that a legally valid birth certificate can only iussed to
descendants, but sometimes one can negotiate with the Standesamt clerks
for some kind of copy that does not have the official stamp on it and
from a legal perspective is therefore not valid as an official birth
certificate. I wonder how one can call this, "inoffizielle Kopie"
(inofficial copy) or something like that. I think I once got one this way ...
perhaps that helps

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany <fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de>


German SIG #Germany Standesaemter and Birth Certificates #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Lars Menk wrote:
Paragraph 61, sub-paragraph 1 of the German Personenstandsgesetz (law of
vital status) >from 08 Aug 1957 says that "the inspecting and examining of
registers of vital statistics and granting of vital status documents may
only be claimed by the authorities in the context of their responsibility
and by persons to which the record refers as well as by their husbands, ancestors
and descendants. Authorities have to indicate the purpose. Other persons only have
a right to inspect and examine the registers of vital statistics and to be granted
vital status documents when they make a legal interest credible."

My comment:
It is true that a legally valid birth certificate can only iussed to
descendants, but sometimes one can negotiate with the Standesamt clerks
for some kind of copy that does not have the official stamp on it and
from a legal perspective is therefore not valid as an official birth
certificate. I wonder how one can call this, "inoffizielle Kopie"
(inofficial copy) or something like that. I think I once got one this way ...
perhaps that helps

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany <fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de>


Bavarian Matrikel / Edict of 1813 /JudenEdikt #germany

ogburnwill@...
 

Hi.
Is there an English version of the 1813 edict issued by the King of Bavaria?
This is the Bayerische Judenedikt which allowed Jews to own land burt also set
forth various restrictions on Jews and requiring that certain records be kept of
Jews.

Actually, I have seen it referred to by different names: JudenMatrikel (which
actually seems to refer to records required by the edict); Das Bayerische Juden
Edikt 1813-1861; and, in English, the "Edict About the Conditions of the Jewish
Fellow-Believers in the Kingdom of Bavaria." It was issued June 10, 1813.
I have seen various names for this document, and many references to it, but never
the language of the document itself. An English version apparently existed on the
internet at one time, but that address (http://home.t-online.de) was apparently
sold and reorganized for other purposes.
Any leads would be helpful. Thank you in advance.

-Will Ogburn Massachusetts USA OgburnWill@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany Bavarian Matrikel / Edict of 1813 /JudenEdikt #germany

ogburnwill@...
 

Hi.
Is there an English version of the 1813 edict issued by the King of Bavaria?
This is the Bayerische Judenedikt which allowed Jews to own land burt also set
forth various restrictions on Jews and requiring that certain records be kept of
Jews.

Actually, I have seen it referred to by different names: JudenMatrikel (which
actually seems to refer to records required by the edict); Das Bayerische Juden
Edikt 1813-1861; and, in English, the "Edict About the Conditions of the Jewish
Fellow-Believers in the Kingdom of Bavaria." It was issued June 10, 1813.
I have seen various names for this document, and many references to it, but never
the language of the document itself. An English version apparently existed on the
internet at one time, but that address (http://home.t-online.de) was apparently
sold and reorganized for other purposes.
Any leads would be helpful. Thank you in advance.

-Will Ogburn Massachusetts USA OgburnWill@comcast.net


INTRO - researching HAMBURG, KAHN, GUMBERTS #germany

ogburnwill@...
 

Hello GerSig,
I am new to the group. I have been doing genealogy for several years, and am
pretty good with American records and newer (novice?) to German records.
I live near Boston Massachusetts, USA, and speak only English.
I have identified great great, and great great great grandparents in Germany.
The names and towns I am interested in are:
HAMBERG (in America: HAMBURGER) Niedernberg, Lower Franconia, Bavaria to USA
(Baltimore and New York) in 1840s and 1850s.
KAHN Gonnesweiler and nearby villages, Birkenfeld, Oldenburgh to USA (Evansville
Indiana and nearby) in 40s, 50s, and later.
GUMBERTS >from Rathsweiler and Essweiler, Rheinish Bavaria; also >from Weisenheim
am Berg, Palatinate; to USA (Evansville, Indiana) in 1830s, 1840s.

I look forward to learning >from this listserve. Thank you in advance. -Will

Willard P. Ogburn Newton Ctr., MA 02459 OgburnWill@comcast.net

WELCOME TO GERSIG - Thanks for your "Intro". MODERATOR


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching HAMBURG, KAHN, GUMBERTS #germany

ogburnwill@...
 

Hello GerSig,
I am new to the group. I have been doing genealogy for several years, and am
pretty good with American records and newer (novice?) to German records.
I live near Boston Massachusetts, USA, and speak only English.
I have identified great great, and great great great grandparents in Germany.
The names and towns I am interested in are:
HAMBERG (in America: HAMBURGER) Niedernberg, Lower Franconia, Bavaria to USA
(Baltimore and New York) in 1840s and 1850s.
KAHN Gonnesweiler and nearby villages, Birkenfeld, Oldenburgh to USA (Evansville
Indiana and nearby) in 40s, 50s, and later.
GUMBERTS >from Rathsweiler and Essweiler, Rheinish Bavaria; also >from Weisenheim
am Berg, Palatinate; to USA (Evansville, Indiana) in 1830s, 1840s.

I look forward to learning >from this listserve. Thank you in advance. -Will

Willard P. Ogburn Newton Ctr., MA 02459 OgburnWill@comcast.net

WELCOME TO GERSIG - Thanks for your "Intro". MODERATOR


Henry CORNELIUS #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

According to <http://www.screenonline.org.uk/people/id/509355/index.html>
the film director Henry CORNELIUS (1913-1958) was:
"Henry Cornelius was born in Cape Town, into a South
African German-Jewish family, on 18 August 1913. While
he was still young his family moved back to Berlin,
where at the age of 18 he was accepted to study acting
and theatrical production with Max Reinhardt...."

Can anyone gve me any information as to whom his
parents were? Thanks, and best wishes from

Adam Yamey in swelteringly hot London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>

Adam Yamey is the author of "A Franco-Prussian Affair" appearing in "Stammbaum"
issue N. 29 to be mailed to subscribers soon.


German SIG #Germany Henry CORNELIUS #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

According to <http://www.screenonline.org.uk/people/id/509355/index.html>
the film director Henry CORNELIUS (1913-1958) was:
"Henry Cornelius was born in Cape Town, into a South
African German-Jewish family, on 18 August 1913. While
he was still young his family moved back to Berlin,
where at the age of 18 he was accepted to study acting
and theatrical production with Max Reinhardt...."

Can anyone gve me any information as to whom his
parents were? Thanks, and best wishes from

Adam Yamey in swelteringly hot London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>

Adam Yamey is the author of "A Franco-Prussian Affair" appearing in "Stammbaum"
issue N. 29 to be mailed to subscribers soon.


Kohen alternate surnames #general

David P Cohen
 

Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Jane Zeman Smith asked about the surname "Kohen". It has
been disguised or translated to vernacular in host countries, viz.
Kahn/Schiff in Germany, Kaplan in Poland Sacerdote in Italy, Aronow, B'Aron
or many others.

Otherwise, kohanim have adopted secular names without regard to parallel
meanings. My Reznik, Rotsztejn, Beron and Rappaport antecedents all were
Kohanim.

David Cohen
Deerfield Beach, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kohen alternate surnames #general

David P Cohen
 

Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Jane Zeman Smith asked about the surname "Kohen". It has
been disguised or translated to vernacular in host countries, viz.
Kahn/Schiff in Germany, Kaplan in Poland Sacerdote in Italy, Aronow, B'Aron
or many others.

Otherwise, kohanim have adopted secular names without regard to parallel
meanings. My Reznik, Rotsztejn, Beron and Rappaport antecedents all were
Kohanim.

David Cohen
Deerfield Beach, Florida