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INTRO: Researching family of Jenny FRANKENTHALER b.Feb. 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim, Wurzberg, Lower Franconia/N.W. Bavaria
#germany
Liz Hanellin
Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research intermittently for about five years, with a strong emphasis on the intermittent part. I consider myself to be a relative beginner in doing German Jewish genealogy research, although I have learned a great deal about my family >from the JewishGen website and a few people I have contacted via the site. I live in New York City, NY, and my native language is English. I speak a bit of Hebrew, a little bit less of French and can identify some words in Yiddish or German. My computer and Internet skills are good. I know the birth and (most of the) death dates for my grandfather, Gustav(e) FRANKENTHALER and his six siblings: Jenny, Ella, Karolina (known to us as Lena or Lina), Bernhard, Felix and Bruno. Their father was Josef FRANKENTHALER and their mother was Hannchen (also listed on some records as Jannchen, Maria Anna, Marianne and Marianna) nee PULVER. Josef died in Germany before the war (date unknown) and Marianne immigrated on the SS Pennland, sailing from Antwerp on Nov. 2, 1939, quite late. The main focus of my research on this branch of my family is to learn what happened to Jenny (b. Feb. 25, 1898). She was the only sibling who didn't make it to the U.S. before the Holocaust. >from what I've learned from my family, she had gotten her immigration papers, but was waitingfor her husband (Ludvig LEVY) to get his. Unfortunately, it seems that those papers never came and then it was too late and they were both killed, along with their young son (whose name I don't know). I know that Jenny and all of her siblings were born in Untereisenheim (West Untereisenheim is what my grandfather called his town) and I believe they had a farm there; but, I don't know if Jenny and Ludvig lived in Untereisenheim during their marriage. I have no confirmation of a location of internment or of their deaths (and I don't even know for sure that they were killed, but it's what my family has always assumed) and I have not been able to find anything about them in any of the online Holocaust databases that I'm aware of. Very sadly, the number of men named Ludvig LEVY (with all of possible spelling variants of first and last names) who perished in the Holocaust is substantial. When I was in Berlin a few years ago, on business, I went to the Holocaust Museum and found 11 in just one of the books there that listed victims. Jenny also seems to have been a common name (I don't know if she had a Yiddish or Hebrew name in addition). I would welcome any suggestions on how to conduct my search to learn the fate of Jenny FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb. 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim). Thank you all for reading. Best, Liz Hanellin, New York City, NY liz_hanellin@yahoo.com
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German SIG #Germany INTRO: Researching family of Jenny FRANKENTHALER b.Feb. 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim, Wurzberg, Lower Franconia/N.W. Bavaria
#germany
Liz Hanellin
Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research intermittently for about five years, with a strong emphasis on the intermittent part. I consider myself to be a relative beginner in doing German Jewish genealogy research, although I have learned a great deal about my family >from the JewishGen website and a few people I have contacted via the site. I live in New York City, NY, and my native language is English. I speak a bit of Hebrew, a little bit less of French and can identify some words in Yiddish or German. My computer and Internet skills are good. I know the birth and (most of the) death dates for my grandfather, Gustav(e) FRANKENTHALER and his six siblings: Jenny, Ella, Karolina (known to us as Lena or Lina), Bernhard, Felix and Bruno. Their father was Josef FRANKENTHALER and their mother was Hannchen (also listed on some records as Jannchen, Maria Anna, Marianne and Marianna) nee PULVER. Josef died in Germany before the war (date unknown) and Marianne immigrated on the SS Pennland, sailing from Antwerp on Nov. 2, 1939, quite late. The main focus of my research on this branch of my family is to learn what happened to Jenny (b. Feb. 25, 1898). She was the only sibling who didn't make it to the U.S. before the Holocaust. >from what I've learned from my family, she had gotten her immigration papers, but was waitingfor her husband (Ludvig LEVY) to get his. Unfortunately, it seems that those papers never came and then it was too late and they were both killed, along with their young son (whose name I don't know). I know that Jenny and all of her siblings were born in Untereisenheim (West Untereisenheim is what my grandfather called his town) and I believe they had a farm there; but, I don't know if Jenny and Ludvig lived in Untereisenheim during their marriage. I have no confirmation of a location of internment or of their deaths (and I don't even know for sure that they were killed, but it's what my family has always assumed) and I have not been able to find anything about them in any of the online Holocaust databases that I'm aware of. Very sadly, the number of men named Ludvig LEVY (with all of possible spelling variants of first and last names) who perished in the Holocaust is substantial. When I was in Berlin a few years ago, on business, I went to the Holocaust Museum and found 11 in just one of the books there that listed victims. Jenny also seems to have been a common name (I don't know if she had a Yiddish or Hebrew name in addition). I would welcome any suggestions on how to conduct my search to learn the fate of Jenny FRANKENTHALER (b. Feb. 25, 1898 in Untereisenheim). Thank you all for reading. Best, Liz Hanellin, New York City, NY liz_hanellin@yahoo.com
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Re: The Story of the Jews
#general
Mary Kinney <pineycroft@...>
Good Morning All,
I have not read the Times' review of Simon Schama's book that Ann Linder informed us of yesterday, but there will be a PBS series based on his book to begin later this month. I found a listing for it last Saturday as I searched for the weekend showing of "Cosmos" (I assumed it would be shown on PBS as Carl Sagan's series had been; the new series is on Fox and rebroadcast on National Geographic). My local PBS station is showing "The Story of the Jews", a five-part series on 25 March (parts 1 and 2) and 1 April (parts 3, 4, and 5). With kind regards, Mary Kinney Albuquerque, New Mexico Researching: GARODNICK, GORODNIK, OGORODNIK, GORDON in Hrodna (town, district, province?) and Peski, Belarus; New York City, New York and Newark, New Jersey, USA. MILLER in Hrodna (town), Peski, and Skidel, Belarus. MECZYK, METCHICK, METZIK in Hrodna (town, district, province?), Belarus; New York City, New York, New Jersey, and California, USA.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Story of the Jews
#general
Mary Kinney <pineycroft@...>
Good Morning All,
I have not read the Times' review of Simon Schama's book that Ann Linder informed us of yesterday, but there will be a PBS series based on his book to begin later this month. I found a listing for it last Saturday as I searched for the weekend showing of "Cosmos" (I assumed it would be shown on PBS as Carl Sagan's series had been; the new series is on Fox and rebroadcast on National Geographic). My local PBS station is showing "The Story of the Jews", a five-part series on 25 March (parts 1 and 2) and 1 April (parts 3, 4, and 5). With kind regards, Mary Kinney Albuquerque, New Mexico Researching: GARODNICK, GORODNIK, OGORODNIK, GORDON in Hrodna (town, district, province?) and Peski, Belarus; New York City, New York and Newark, New Jersey, USA. MILLER in Hrodna (town), Peski, and Skidel, Belarus. MECZYK, METCHICK, METZIK in Hrodna (town, district, province?), Belarus; New York City, New York, New Jersey, and California, USA.
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Searching for community of Smoliachna Borovka
#general
lesliegut
Please advise of you have any idea where Smoliachna Borovka may be (or have
been). Based on Vilnius Family Lists of 1888, we had family living there. It is/was likely very close to Lida, Belarus, and perhaps the name was changed after the turn of the century. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated. Leslie Gut-Reiken Zurich lesliegut@bluewin.ch Researching: SOLOMIANSKY, SALAMANSKY MODERATOR NOTE: Only surnames should be set in upper case letters. Town names should be typed in title case.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for community of Smoliachna Borovka
#general
lesliegut
Please advise of you have any idea where Smoliachna Borovka may be (or have
been). Based on Vilnius Family Lists of 1888, we had family living there. It is/was likely very close to Lida, Belarus, and perhaps the name was changed after the turn of the century. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated. Leslie Gut-Reiken Zurich lesliegut@bluewin.ch Researching: SOLOMIANSKY, SALAMANSKY MODERATOR NOTE: Only surnames should be set in upper case letters. Town names should be typed in title case.
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Rosenheim Camp (1946 - 1948)
#general
Dear Siggers,
I have two photographs of people at the Rosenheim Displaced Persons Camp between 1946 and 1948. One contains 15 adults (workers at the camp, possibly medical) and the other contains 4 adults with about 36 children. If anyone wants to see these, please contact me. I have also written to the USHMM to see if they would like copies for their digital archive. Best regards, Joyaa Antares Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Researching ZAUSMER, ZOUSMER, ZESMER, CHOUSMER, CHAUSMER, TSOUZMER etc, MARCUS, DAVIDOFF in Polangen, Kretinga, Darbenai, Libau, Riga, Memel; SCHORR, SCHERZER, JURIS and DAWID in Buckaczowce, Ottynia, Nadworna, and Kolomyya; ZUNDER in Buckaczowce and Ivano-Frankivsk; KEMPNER in Berlin, Lodz, Warszawa and London; LEVY, BADER in Berlin, Schwerin, Friedeberg; and GERSON, SIDERSKY, FREED, RIMAN in Gumbinnen, Koenigsberg, Danzig, Berlin, Vilnius, Sirvintos and South Africa
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rosenheim Camp (1946 - 1948)
#general
Dear Siggers,
I have two photographs of people at the Rosenheim Displaced Persons Camp between 1946 and 1948. One contains 15 adults (workers at the camp, possibly medical) and the other contains 4 adults with about 36 children. If anyone wants to see these, please contact me. I have also written to the USHMM to see if they would like copies for their digital archive. Best regards, Joyaa Antares Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Researching ZAUSMER, ZOUSMER, ZESMER, CHOUSMER, CHAUSMER, TSOUZMER etc, MARCUS, DAVIDOFF in Polangen, Kretinga, Darbenai, Libau, Riga, Memel; SCHORR, SCHERZER, JURIS and DAWID in Buckaczowce, Ottynia, Nadworna, and Kolomyya; ZUNDER in Buckaczowce and Ivano-Frankivsk; KEMPNER in Berlin, Lodz, Warszawa and London; LEVY, BADER in Berlin, Schwerin, Friedeberg; and GERSON, SIDERSKY, FREED, RIMAN in Gumbinnen, Koenigsberg, Danzig, Berlin, Vilnius, Sirvintos and South Africa
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[US] [CT][ SB 414 Changes Immediate Access to Genealogists Access To Records
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS only learned about this legislation late today- March 13. While the
hearing tomorrow is before the Public Health Committee of the Connecticut General Assembly (CGA) -if it passes it still has to be voted on the floor and if passed be sent to the Senate for it to be heard and voted upon before going to the governor. Current Connecticut statute states that genealogists have access to all vital records in the custody of any registrar of vital statistics, including certificates, ledgers, record books, card files, indexes and database printouts, "during all normal business hours." SB 414 which will be heard Friday March 14 at 10:30 a.m. at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford. SB 414 may be read at: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2014/TOB/S/2014SB-00414-R00-SB.htm The proposed legislation would delete "during all normal business hours" and would instead leave access at the registrar's discretion by adding this sentence: "A registrar of vital statistics may grant a genealogist immediate access to such records or may require a genealogist to schedule an appointment to access such records, at the registrar's discretion. A registrar requiring an appointment for access to such records shall schedule such appointment as soon as reasonably practicable." Genealogists that belong to a Connecticut genealogy society have been privileged to have immediate access to vital records for a number of years. If enacted, this provision would only apply to genealogists no others who request records. The proposed provision would leave it to the local registrar as to when a genealogist may come to the office and access the records, whereas since 1996 there has been a provision regarding "normal business hours" access and this would be deleted. If enacted, genealogists would be required to contact a town hall first because they would not know whether an appointment is necessary before research cane be done. There is no requirement that an appointment would be made within a specific period of time >from the request. The bill was introduced at the request of the Department of Public Health. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [US] [CT][ SB 414 Changes Immediate Access to Genealogists Access To Records
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS only learned about this legislation late today- March 13. While the
hearing tomorrow is before the Public Health Committee of the Connecticut General Assembly (CGA) -if it passes it still has to be voted on the floor and if passed be sent to the Senate for it to be heard and voted upon before going to the governor. Current Connecticut statute states that genealogists have access to all vital records in the custody of any registrar of vital statistics, including certificates, ledgers, record books, card files, indexes and database printouts, "during all normal business hours." SB 414 which will be heard Friday March 14 at 10:30 a.m. at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford. SB 414 may be read at: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2014/TOB/S/2014SB-00414-R00-SB.htm The proposed legislation would delete "during all normal business hours" and would instead leave access at the registrar's discretion by adding this sentence: "A registrar of vital statistics may grant a genealogist immediate access to such records or may require a genealogist to schedule an appointment to access such records, at the registrar's discretion. A registrar requiring an appointment for access to such records shall schedule such appointment as soon as reasonably practicable." Genealogists that belong to a Connecticut genealogy society have been privileged to have immediate access to vital records for a number of years. If enacted, this provision would only apply to genealogists no others who request records. The proposed provision would leave it to the local registrar as to when a genealogist may come to the office and access the records, whereas since 1996 there has been a provision regarding "normal business hours" access and this would be deleted. If enacted, genealogists would be required to contact a town hall first because they would not know whether an appointment is necessary before research cane be done. There is no requirement that an appointment would be made within a specific period of time >from the request. The bill was introduced at the request of the Department of Public Health. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Seeking information and help searching on JewishGen/GesherGalicia.org - HUBNER and LEHRER families
#galicia
Dr. Pablo Hubner <hublan@...>
a) I am searching people who are descendant >from Jews of Nizankowice/
Nyzhankovychi. Also people descendants >from Hubner family, Dobromil/Bircza. I am Pablo Hubner Varela, Catholic but my father Mario/Majer Hubner Lehrer, told all my roots. He was a converted Jew to Catholicism. Born in Nizankowice/Nyzhankovychi. b) Lehrer family: My granduncle Israel Lehrer Ganz, Zadik Kohen, was murdered with the rabbin inside the synagogue of Nizankowice/Nyzahnkovychi. Former Przemysl district under Austrian Empire, Poland, today in Ukraine/Starysambir district. He was the last chief of Kehillah in Nyzhankovychi/Nizankowice, businessman, married with children. c) Hubner family: Austrian origin. Zadik Kohen. They used to add when signed Z.K. They came >from Austria in 18th Century to Dobromil, today Ukraine. I only found a person relative of mine in our records. Laja Hubner born in 1790. I could not find more records. I beg help. d) Baruch or Boruch Hubner was my greatgrandfather. He born in Dobromil and when got married lived in Bircza. So my grandfather Naftali Hubner Berger born in Bircza but usually went to Dobromil. Naftali Hubner Berger lived in Nizankowice/Nyzhankovychi since his marriage 31 December 1924 till the emigration to Montevideo, Uruguay in 1930. He ruled the haberdashery, dowry of my grandmother Chaja Hinda/Hela/Hinda born Lehrer Ganz. Dr. Pablo Hubner Montevideo Uruguay South America
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Seeking information and help searching on JewishGen/GesherGalicia.org - HUBNER and LEHRER families
#galicia
Dr. Pablo Hubner <hublan@...>
a) I am searching people who are descendant >from Jews of Nizankowice/
Nyzhankovychi. Also people descendants >from Hubner family, Dobromil/Bircza. I am Pablo Hubner Varela, Catholic but my father Mario/Majer Hubner Lehrer, told all my roots. He was a converted Jew to Catholicism. Born in Nizankowice/Nyzhankovychi. b) Lehrer family: My granduncle Israel Lehrer Ganz, Zadik Kohen, was murdered with the rabbin inside the synagogue of Nizankowice/Nyzahnkovychi. Former Przemysl district under Austrian Empire, Poland, today in Ukraine/Starysambir district. He was the last chief of Kehillah in Nyzhankovychi/Nizankowice, businessman, married with children. c) Hubner family: Austrian origin. Zadik Kohen. They used to add when signed Z.K. They came >from Austria in 18th Century to Dobromil, today Ukraine. I only found a person relative of mine in our records. Laja Hubner born in 1790. I could not find more records. I beg help. d) Baruch or Boruch Hubner was my greatgrandfather. He born in Dobromil and when got married lived in Bircza. So my grandfather Naftali Hubner Berger born in Bircza but usually went to Dobromil. Naftali Hubner Berger lived in Nizankowice/Nyzhankovychi since his marriage 31 December 1924 till the emigration to Montevideo, Uruguay in 1930. He ruled the haberdashery, dowry of my grandmother Chaja Hinda/Hela/Hinda born Lehrer Ganz. Dr. Pablo Hubner Montevideo Uruguay South America
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Paul BERMANN from Montpellier
#france
Bert de Jong <bdejong67@...>
Dear French-Sig members,
I have been researching the BERMANN family >from Germany for 14 years, and now am searching for Paul/Lucien BERMANN, born August 20, 1898 in Antwerp, Belgium. I have a statement >from him given to the arrondisement territorial Geneve >from July 18, 1945 in which he tells that he lived at that time in Camp de travail de Tramelan, and his previous address was: Paris , 59 Boulevard Beau-Sejour, 16eme. He further tells that he had lived in Holland, but in 1926 moved to Paris, France. In June 1940 he left Paris and went to Montpellier, in 1942 he fled to Switzerland. In a document >from the Swiss police dated September 15, 1942 it shows that he illegally crossed the border to Switzerland on September 5, 1942. And that he is in Camp Varembe at this time, but should be brought to the police office in Geneve, Franc. Another document shows that he was in Camp Tramelan in October 1, 1943. He was in Sierre, Wallis, Switzerland in November 1942, Tramelan May 27, 1943 A.I. Siders in May 1943. Another document shows that he is arrested at Bardonnex on July 18,1945 illegally passing the border, and was brought to Camp de Matten in Interlaken, Belgium. On July 28, 1945 he received a laissez-passer >from Bern, Switzerland. He should travel to Camp de Charmilles, Geneve, France on August 2, 1945. I found him also on a voters list >from the 60s as he lived in Montpellier, but after that I can't find a trace. Does anybody know more about Paul/Lucien BERMANN? Regards, Bert de Jong The Netherlands
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French SIG #France Paul BERMANN from Montpellier
#france
Bert de Jong <bdejong67@...>
Dear French-Sig members,
I have been researching the BERMANN family >from Germany for 14 years, and now am searching for Paul/Lucien BERMANN, born August 20, 1898 in Antwerp, Belgium. I have a statement >from him given to the arrondisement territorial Geneve >from July 18, 1945 in which he tells that he lived at that time in Camp de travail de Tramelan, and his previous address was: Paris , 59 Boulevard Beau-Sejour, 16eme. He further tells that he had lived in Holland, but in 1926 moved to Paris, France. In June 1940 he left Paris and went to Montpellier, in 1942 he fled to Switzerland. In a document >from the Swiss police dated September 15, 1942 it shows that he illegally crossed the border to Switzerland on September 5, 1942. And that he is in Camp Varembe at this time, but should be brought to the police office in Geneve, Franc. Another document shows that he was in Camp Tramelan in October 1, 1943. He was in Sierre, Wallis, Switzerland in November 1942, Tramelan May 27, 1943 A.I. Siders in May 1943. Another document shows that he is arrested at Bardonnex on July 18,1945 illegally passing the border, and was brought to Camp de Matten in Interlaken, Belgium. On July 28, 1945 he received a laissez-passer >from Bern, Switzerland. He should travel to Camp de Charmilles, Geneve, France on August 2, 1945. I found him also on a voters list >from the 60s as he lived in Montpellier, but after that I can't find a trace. Does anybody know more about Paul/Lucien BERMANN? Regards, Bert de Jong The Netherlands
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The Memories of Muizenberg Exhibition is coming to Perth
#general
The Memories of Muizenberg Exhibition is coming to Perth, Australia
The Opening is on Sunday 6 April 2014 at 5pm Chabad WA 11 Garson Court, Noranda For more details, visit elirab.me and the Muizenberg Kehilalink: http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/muizenberg Regards Eli Rabinowitz eli@elirab.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Memories of Muizenberg Exhibition is coming to Perth
#general
The Memories of Muizenberg Exhibition is coming to Perth, Australia
The Opening is on Sunday 6 April 2014 at 5pm Chabad WA 11 Garson Court, Noranda For more details, visit elirab.me and the Muizenberg Kehilalink: http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/muizenberg Regards Eli Rabinowitz eli@elirab.com
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About Giraltovce KehilaLinks
#hungary
edelman@...
Hi,
I am trying to get in touch with Gabi Lana, who is listed on the Giraltovce Kehila page, http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/giraltovce/giraltovce.htm There are two email addresses on the page -- I wrote both a few weeks ago and have not yet received a reply. Thanks! -- Todd Edelman Los Angeles edelman@greenidea.eu Researching: EDELMAN (Spisska Nova Ves, Plavec, Hrabkov, Kosice, Tokaj, Mad), FRIEDMAN (Plavec, Tokaj), WEISBERGER (Medzilaborce) POLSTER (Szepes and Saros megye; Kosice) FISCH (Eastern Hungary), LICHTMANN (Budapest and all eastern Hungarian counties), BERNAT (Klarafalva, Debrecen), BLAU (Ung megye, Hajdu megye, Budapest) KLEIN (Püspökladány, Hajduboszormeny, Debrecen), KUNSZTLER (Budapest, Püspökladány, Perecseny, Uzhgorod, Bucharest), SUSZHOLZ (Perecseny), FRIEDMAN (Perechyn, Ung megye, Giralt(ovce), Saros megye, Budapest, NYC) MALEK (Ruscova,Petrosani,Temesvar) ICKOVITZ (Medzilaborce, Ruscova), MOSKOVITZ (Michalovce, Sobrance)
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Hungary SIG #Hungary About Giraltovce KehilaLinks
#hungary
edelman@...
Hi,
I am trying to get in touch with Gabi Lana, who is listed on the Giraltovce Kehila page, http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/giraltovce/giraltovce.htm There are two email addresses on the page -- I wrote both a few weeks ago and have not yet received a reply. Thanks! -- Todd Edelman Los Angeles edelman@greenidea.eu Researching: EDELMAN (Spisska Nova Ves, Plavec, Hrabkov, Kosice, Tokaj, Mad), FRIEDMAN (Plavec, Tokaj), WEISBERGER (Medzilaborce) POLSTER (Szepes and Saros megye; Kosice) FISCH (Eastern Hungary), LICHTMANN (Budapest and all eastern Hungarian counties), BERNAT (Klarafalva, Debrecen), BLAU (Ung megye, Hajdu megye, Budapest) KLEIN (Püspökladány, Hajduboszormeny, Debrecen), KUNSZTLER (Budapest, Püspökladány, Perecseny, Uzhgorod, Bucharest), SUSZHOLZ (Perecseny), FRIEDMAN (Perechyn, Ung megye, Giralt(ovce), Saros megye, Budapest, NYC) MALEK (Ruscova,Petrosani,Temesvar) ICKOVITZ (Medzilaborce, Ruscova), MOSKOVITZ (Michalovce, Sobrance)
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Present rebbes of Dzikev and Stanslaw-London
#general
Neil@...
Trying to find out who these two are
The previous Admur Stanislaw-London was Meshullam Issachar Ashkenazi and his son Uri succeeded him. The present Admur Dzikev' was the father of a daughter who married Zalman Ashkenazi son of Isaac Alesker, son of Elimelech of Melbourne. Thanks Neil Rosenstein
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Present rebbes of Dzikev and Stanslaw-London
#general
Neil@...
Trying to find out who these two are
The previous Admur Stanislaw-London was Meshullam Issachar Ashkenazi and his son Uri succeeded him. The present Admur Dzikev' was the father of a daughter who married Zalman Ashkenazi son of Isaac Alesker, son of Elimelech of Melbourne. Thanks Neil Rosenstein
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