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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photo ViewMate file # 32828 is on-line #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Hi!

I uploaded a photo of my great aunt Frieda HUMBERG ROSENBAUM to
viewmate. She is fairly young in the photo and wearing a uniform of a
Jewish Aid Organization of some kind. I put up all the information I
know and would like to know on the viewmate form. Frieda was born in
1892 in Lippe, or Lippstadt or Klein Reken. She probably moved to
Lippstadt in the 1920s, but I am not sure. She married at age 39 (much
after this photo was taken). I would like to know what organization the
uniform is from, what they did, and approx. when the photo was taken.
Any information is greatly appreciated.

I had to change the shape and size of the photo and keep making it
smaller to get it to 1 MB for viewmate. If you would like it larger to
see better, let me know.

I so appreciate any help.

The URL is :
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=32828

Sincerely and best wishes,

Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


Photo ViewMate file # 32828 is on-line #general

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Hi!

I uploaded a photo of my great aunt Frieda HUMBERG ROSENBAUM to
viewmate. She is fairly young in the photo and wearing a uniform of a
Jewish Aid Organization of some kind. I put up all the information I
know and would like to know on the viewmate form. Frieda was born in
1892 in Lippe, or Lippstadt or Klein Reken. She probably moved to
Lippstadt in the 1920s, but I am not sure. She married at age 39 (much
after this photo was taken). I would like to know what organization the
uniform is from, what they did, and approx. when the photo was taken.
Any information is greatly appreciated.

I had to change the shape and size of the photo and keep making it
smaller to get it to 1 MB for viewmate. If you would like it larger to
see better, let me know.

I so appreciate any help.

The URL is :
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/responselist.asp?key=32828

Sincerely and best wishes,

Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: likely travel route from Minsk to Palestine in 1880s #general

dawn hurwitz <dawnhurwitz@...>
 

Subject: Re likely travel route >from Minsk to Palestine in 1880s
from Dawn Hurwitz <dawnhurwitz@...>
Date: Sunday 23 March 2014. 13.05 pm
message no. 1

Hi Jonathan,
My grandfather and family left Ukraine in early 1920s and first sailed
to Constantinople where they spent about a year.
(I don't know >from what port they left the Ukraine) Is there a way that
I can find out more information about their travels? They then caught a
train to Jaffo. I wonder why they took this particular route and not
the route that your family took?

Thanks,
Dawn Hurwitz


Re: likely travel route from Minsk to Palestine in 1880s #general

dawn hurwitz <dawnhurwitz@...>
 

Subject: Re likely travel route >from Minsk to Palestine in 1880s
from Dawn Hurwitz <dawnhurwitz@...>
Date: Sunday 23 March 2014. 13.05 pm
message no. 1

Hi Jonathan,
My grandfather and family left Ukraine in early 1920s and first sailed
to Constantinople where they spent about a year.
(I don't know >from what port they left the Ukraine) Is there a way that
I can find out more information about their travels? They then caught a
train to Jaffo. I wonder why they took this particular route and not
the route that your family took?

Thanks,
Dawn Hurwitz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Dittman(n) family of Bavaria and New York #general

Diana da Costa
 

Hello

I have hit a number of brick walls. Charlotte (nee ROSENFELD) was born on
18th July 1833 in Bamberg, Bavaria and died in New York on 26th September
1925. She arrived in the US in 1850. She married Eduard DITTMANN, born 8th
May 1826 in Tuechersfeld and died in NY 5th August 1882. Edward arrived in
US between 1845 - 1848. Charlotte and Edward had seven children, all born
in NY, of whom six have been accounted. If anyone wants to know more about
the ROSENFELD DITTMAN(N)s, please ask but here are my queries for which all
help gratefully received:

1. The date of their marriage is 1854, highly likely as their first child
was born the following year. But I cannot track down a marriage place or
date. I would assume it is unlikely that they returned to Germany to wed
and therefore the marriage presumably took place in the US and I am assuming
(?) NY as that is where they lived and where all their children were born.
2. One son Semon DITTMAN (also recorded as Simeon and Simon) was born on
28th June 1858. But in 1896 Semon left for South Africa where he lived until
1906 when he turns up in Shanghai where he remains until 1919 - or at least
this is the last passport application found for him. What then happened to
Semon? Did he return to the US or did he remain in China? Where and when
did he die? On the passport applications, he states he is single.
3. Semon had five siblings who have been traced: Frances (my great-great
grandmother), Louisa, Mortimer, Henry and Marie. Only Frances married. The
seventh was learnt about >from the 1900 Census where it is stated that
Charlotte had five living children having given birth to seven. We know that
Mortimer was killed in 1893 in a tragic rail accident but where is this
mystery child? Could he/she have been stillborn or perhaps was born and
died in between census'? All ideas welcome.
4. To date, I have found nothing about the ROSENFELD forebears in Bamberg
or the DITTMANN ancestors in Tuechersfeld - both new territories for me as
hitherto my researches have more or less been confined to Furth and
Nurnberg. If anyone has any hints of where to look, I should be most
grateful.

Many thanks
Diana (MOHR) GOMES da COSTA, Kent UK - formerly >from London
Please note new email address: dianadacosta@...
Researcher number: 166938

Researches include ARNSTEIN, BACH, BASS, BERLIN, COHN, DITTMANN, FLACHFELD,
GUETERMANN, HAHN, HELLMANN, HIRSCHMANN, KOHN, KRAILSHEIMER, LOEWI, MANES,
MARX, MENDEL, MORGENTHAU, MOHR, ROSENWALD, UHLMANN, WEIKERSHEIMER and
ZIRNDORFER - all originally >from Bavaria


The Dittman(n) family of Bavaria and New York #general

Diana da Costa
 

Hello

I have hit a number of brick walls. Charlotte (nee ROSENFELD) was born on
18th July 1833 in Bamberg, Bavaria and died in New York on 26th September
1925. She arrived in the US in 1850. She married Eduard DITTMANN, born 8th
May 1826 in Tuechersfeld and died in NY 5th August 1882. Edward arrived in
US between 1845 - 1848. Charlotte and Edward had seven children, all born
in NY, of whom six have been accounted. If anyone wants to know more about
the ROSENFELD DITTMAN(N)s, please ask but here are my queries for which all
help gratefully received:

1. The date of their marriage is 1854, highly likely as their first child
was born the following year. But I cannot track down a marriage place or
date. I would assume it is unlikely that they returned to Germany to wed
and therefore the marriage presumably took place in the US and I am assuming
(?) NY as that is where they lived and where all their children were born.
2. One son Semon DITTMAN (also recorded as Simeon and Simon) was born on
28th June 1858. But in 1896 Semon left for South Africa where he lived until
1906 when he turns up in Shanghai where he remains until 1919 - or at least
this is the last passport application found for him. What then happened to
Semon? Did he return to the US or did he remain in China? Where and when
did he die? On the passport applications, he states he is single.
3. Semon had five siblings who have been traced: Frances (my great-great
grandmother), Louisa, Mortimer, Henry and Marie. Only Frances married. The
seventh was learnt about >from the 1900 Census where it is stated that
Charlotte had five living children having given birth to seven. We know that
Mortimer was killed in 1893 in a tragic rail accident but where is this
mystery child? Could he/she have been stillborn or perhaps was born and
died in between census'? All ideas welcome.
4. To date, I have found nothing about the ROSENFELD forebears in Bamberg
or the DITTMANN ancestors in Tuechersfeld - both new territories for me as
hitherto my researches have more or less been confined to Furth and
Nurnberg. If anyone has any hints of where to look, I should be most
grateful.

Many thanks
Diana (MOHR) GOMES da COSTA, Kent UK - formerly >from London
Please note new email address: dianadacosta@...
Researcher number: 166938

Researches include ARNSTEIN, BACH, BASS, BERLIN, COHN, DITTMANN, FLACHFELD,
GUETERMANN, HAHN, HELLMANN, HIRSCHMANN, KOHN, KRAILSHEIMER, LOEWI, MANES,
MARX, MENDEL, MORGENTHAU, MOHR, ROSENWALD, UHLMANN, WEIKERSHEIMER and
ZIRNDORFER - all originally >from Bavaria


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Baron #general

Steven Bloom
 

It may also be of interest that this was the surname of the Hassidic
dynasty of Radoszyce (Radoshitz) starting with Issachar Ber BARON.

On the other suggestions, it was not uncommon for some of the "BAR-"
(i.e., Ben Rabbi or Reb) acronym surnames to correspond to real
words, particularly ones that were also used as surnames amongst
non-Jews. One such name in my family was BARTAK. So, though BARON corresponds
to a real secular word and name, it could also be a Jewish-only acronym name.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia



Dear Andrew:
There are Jews named KAISER, KOENIG (king), FUERST (prince), GRAF
(count) and HERZOG (duke), so why not BARON?
snip...........


Baron #general

Steven Bloom
 

It may also be of interest that this was the surname of the Hassidic
dynasty of Radoszyce (Radoshitz) starting with Issachar Ber BARON.

On the other suggestions, it was not uncommon for some of the "BAR-"
(i.e., Ben Rabbi or Reb) acronym surnames to correspond to real
words, particularly ones that were also used as surnames amongst
non-Jews. One such name in my family was BARTAK. So, though BARON corresponds
to a real secular word and name, it could also be a Jewish-only acronym name.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia



Dear Andrew:
There are Jews named KAISER, KOENIG (king), FUERST (prince), GRAF
(count) and HERZOG (duke), so why not BARON?
snip...........


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Russian #general

Beth Galleto
 

Dear fellow genealogists,
When my BOLKER great grandparents came to
the U.S. with several of their children in 1905 (two were already here),
the eldest daughter, identified on the manifest as Freide, 22, was
deported back to Europe because of illness. Family lore says she had
tuberculosis and spent the rest of her life with her uncle Nissan in
Mlawa. No one seemed to know when she died.

I recently obtained a death record >from Mlawa >from 1905 for a Sura BOLKER.
The record is in Russian, and I would appreciate a full translation that
could help me determine whether this is my deported great aunt. Although
the first name is different, it may be one of those double names and Sura
could be her middle name. To make this determination I particularly
need to know who Sura's parents were, her age and the full date of her death
including month and day. The name of the person or persons reporting the
death would also be helpful.

The record is posted on ViewMate at this location:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32796

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you for your help.

Beth Galleto
Greenbrae, CA


ViewMate translation request - Russian #general

Beth Galleto
 

Dear fellow genealogists,
When my BOLKER great grandparents came to
the U.S. with several of their children in 1905 (two were already here),
the eldest daughter, identified on the manifest as Freide, 22, was
deported back to Europe because of illness. Family lore says she had
tuberculosis and spent the rest of her life with her uncle Nissan in
Mlawa. No one seemed to know when she died.

I recently obtained a death record >from Mlawa >from 1905 for a Sura BOLKER.
The record is in Russian, and I would appreciate a full translation that
could help me determine whether this is my deported great aunt. Although
the first name is different, it may be one of those double names and Sura
could be her middle name. To make this determination I particularly
need to know who Sura's parents were, her age and the full date of her death
including month and day. The name of the person or persons reporting the
death would also be helpful.

The record is posted on ViewMate at this location:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32796

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you for your help.

Beth Galleto
Greenbrae, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family name: Baron #general

tom klein <bossman@...>
 

In the compilation, "szazadunk nevvaltoztatasai" by szentivanyi
zoltan, which lists legal name changes of the 19th century in
Hungary, there are none listed that changed to BARON, one went >from
BLASKO to BA'RO' (the hungarian equivalent of baron), one >from BARON
to BAROHA'ZI, and 3 to BARONYI, two of which changed >from BARON.

Since most of the changes were to Hungarian-sounding names and away
from Germanic (jewish) ones, this makes sense. (BARON seems to exist
as a possibly jewish surname prior to these name changes.)

Roger Lustig's suggestion that i might be derived >from "bar-on" is
reasonable, except that this begs the question of whether "bar-on"
was used as a name prior to BARON. (I think it's more common as a
modern israeli name. see also
<http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=baron>.) so i would
guess that "ben rav nachman" is a likely candidate.


....... tom klein, toronto

ps. the book of name changes is available online in scanned form at
<http://kt.lib.pte.hu/cgi-bin/kt.cgi?konyvtar/kt04112203/tartalom.html>.


"Lenard, Andrew" <lenard@...> wrote:
What could be the origin of the family name "Baron?"
snip...


Re: Family name: Baron #general

tom klein <bossman@...>
 

In the compilation, "szazadunk nevvaltoztatasai" by szentivanyi
zoltan, which lists legal name changes of the 19th century in
Hungary, there are none listed that changed to BARON, one went >from
BLASKO to BA'RO' (the hungarian equivalent of baron), one >from BARON
to BAROHA'ZI, and 3 to BARONYI, two of which changed >from BARON.

Since most of the changes were to Hungarian-sounding names and away
from Germanic (jewish) ones, this makes sense. (BARON seems to exist
as a possibly jewish surname prior to these name changes.)

Roger Lustig's suggestion that i might be derived >from "bar-on" is
reasonable, except that this begs the question of whether "bar-on"
was used as a name prior to BARON. (I think it's more common as a
modern israeli name. see also
<http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=baron>.) so i would
guess that "ben rav nachman" is a likely candidate.


....... tom klein, toronto

ps. the book of name changes is available online in scanned form at
<http://kt.lib.pte.hu/cgi-bin/kt.cgi?konyvtar/kt04112203/tartalom.html>.


"Lenard, Andrew" <lenard@...> wrote:
What could be the origin of the family name "Baron?"
snip...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching the origin of the ZEEK Family. #general

Jeanine Lewis <simbasden1@...>
 

Good morning >from Missouri (United States),

I hope that you may help me find as much information about my Jewish relatives
whose last name had been altered >from Zeek to Zeak. I have tried for
sometime to pick through my family's history to find out more. I have had
a long need to find out as much as I could about my long lost relatives.
In one of my attempts to search, I found your webpage! How thrilled I was
to see that there were others like me and that there were kind individuals
who were attempting to help people like us find the answers to our questions.
I have come to a dead end in the road to my research as the only person
left who can tell much of anything is very very old and her memory is limited.
It truly saddens me that I can find out more. It's as though they are
lost to me forever! I hope you might be able to help or st least direct
me where to go.

My Great grandmother name was Grace Zeek and lived in the United States
in Indiana. I know she came >from a very large family of children and was
one of the youngest. I was told by my father that she was German Jewish.

Is there a way for you to help me in finding the Jewish history of the
Zeek family name and if there are any living relatives? I would be
so extremely grateful to you, thank you!

I do love your website as it brings a connection to the whole world and
to the past! Thank you for all that you do!
Best regards,
Jeanine

MODERATOR NOTE: Jeanine, welcome to JewishGen. JG does indeed maintain a
vast array of resources - all due to the work of wonderful volunteers.
Probably the first resource you should consult in the JewishGen
Family Finder. Here, you can register names and places you are researching,
and others can share their research with you. Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Please note that whilst JewishGen does not itself do research, membership
of the Discussion Group (and other specialist groups) connects you to
many thousands of enthusiastic readers who will happily share information
and offer assistance.


Searching the origin of the ZEEK Family. #general

Jeanine Lewis <simbasden1@...>
 

Good morning >from Missouri (United States),

I hope that you may help me find as much information about my Jewish relatives
whose last name had been altered >from Zeek to Zeak. I have tried for
sometime to pick through my family's history to find out more. I have had
a long need to find out as much as I could about my long lost relatives.
In one of my attempts to search, I found your webpage! How thrilled I was
to see that there were others like me and that there were kind individuals
who were attempting to help people like us find the answers to our questions.
I have come to a dead end in the road to my research as the only person
left who can tell much of anything is very very old and her memory is limited.
It truly saddens me that I can find out more. It's as though they are
lost to me forever! I hope you might be able to help or st least direct
me where to go.

My Great grandmother name was Grace Zeek and lived in the United States
in Indiana. I know she came >from a very large family of children and was
one of the youngest. I was told by my father that she was German Jewish.

Is there a way for you to help me in finding the Jewish history of the
Zeek family name and if there are any living relatives? I would be
so extremely grateful to you, thank you!

I do love your website as it brings a connection to the whole world and
to the past! Thank you for all that you do!
Best regards,
Jeanine

MODERATOR NOTE: Jeanine, welcome to JewishGen. JG does indeed maintain a
vast array of resources - all due to the work of wonderful volunteers.
Probably the first resource you should consult in the JewishGen
Family Finder. Here, you can register names and places you are researching,
and others can share their research with you. Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Please note that whilst JewishGen does not itself do research, membership
of the Discussion Group (and other specialist groups) connects you to
many thousands of enthusiastic readers who will happily share information
and offer assistance.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1910 street address in Galati, Romania #general

Allen Kurtz
 

Fellow researchers,

When my GM arrived at Ellis Island in 1910 she gave her last address
as what appears to be Strada Akela E. in Galati, Romania. The "strada"
is quite clear and the "akela" less so. I have tried looking at old
maps of Galati attempting to find the street without success. Does
anyone know of such a street in Galati?

If you would like to see her arrival manifest, search for Rachel
MICHALOWITZ and her father Itzck arriving on the Lapland on 12 June
1910.

Thank you for any help you may render.

Allen Kurtz
Mahopac, NY


1910 street address in Galati, Romania #general

Allen Kurtz
 

Fellow researchers,

When my GM arrived at Ellis Island in 1910 she gave her last address
as what appears to be Strada Akela E. in Galati, Romania. The "strada"
is quite clear and the "akela" less so. I have tried looking at old
maps of Galati attempting to find the street without success. Does
anyone know of such a street in Galati?

If you would like to see her arrival manifest, search for Rachel
MICHALOWITZ and her father Itzck arriving on the Lapland on 12 June
1910.

Thank you for any help you may render.

Allen Kurtz
Mahopac, NY


German SIG #Germany Photo ViewMate file # 32828 is on-line #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Hi!
I uploaded a photo of my great aunt Frieda HUMBERG ROSENBAUM to viewmate.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32828

She is fairly young in the photo and wearing a uniform of a
Jewish Aid Organization of some kind. I put up all the information I
know and would like to know on the viewmate form. Frieda was born in
1892 in Lippe, or Lippstadt or Klein Reken. She probably moved to
Lippstadt in the 1920s, but I am not sure. She married at age 39 (much
after this photo was taken). I would like to know what organization the
uniform is from, what they did, and approx. when the photo was taken.
Any information is greatly appreciated.

I had to change the shape and size of the photo and keep making it
smaller to get it to 1 MB for viewmate. If you would like it larger to
see better, let me know. I so appreciate any help.

Lin Herz Palm Bay, Florida


Photo ViewMate file # 32828 is on-line #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Hi!
I uploaded a photo of my great aunt Frieda HUMBERG ROSENBAUM to viewmate.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32828

She is fairly young in the photo and wearing a uniform of a
Jewish Aid Organization of some kind. I put up all the information I
know and would like to know on the viewmate form. Frieda was born in
1892 in Lippe, or Lippstadt or Klein Reken. She probably moved to
Lippstadt in the 1920s, but I am not sure. She married at age 39 (much
after this photo was taken). I would like to know what organization the
uniform is from, what they did, and approx. when the photo was taken.
Any information is greatly appreciated.

I had to change the shape and size of the photo and keep making it
smaller to get it to 1 MB for viewmate. If you would like it larger to
see better, let me know. I so appreciate any help.

Lin Herz Palm Bay, Florida


German SIG #Germany Is Lobber an Actual Given Name? #germany

Linda Shefler
 

I am trying to solve a bit of a mystery regarding my SCHUSTER family from
Romsthal. Marjiam SCHUSTER supposedly had an illegitimate son, Aron,
about 1788. Aron was married twice and in each marriage record only his
mother's name was mentioned. His death record also indicates his mother's
name. None of the records indicate his father's name. When Aron's mother,
Marjiam, died in 1850, the record indicated that she was the widow of
Lobber SCHUSTER. It's the first time his name has shown up and it's a
rather odd name. Aron had a son, Lob Arjie in 1830, leading me to suspect
that his father was probably this "Lobber". Has anyone run across the
name Lobber before?

Does anyone know how illegitimate children were viewed at that time?
Interestingly, Aron went on to have two illegitimate children of his own
with my relative (acknowledging them as his children), before finally
marrying her and having a third child with her. Many thanks,

Linda Silverman Shefler, San Francisco East Bay linda.shefler@...


Is Lobber an Actual Given Name? #germany

Linda Shefler
 

I am trying to solve a bit of a mystery regarding my SCHUSTER family from
Romsthal. Marjiam SCHUSTER supposedly had an illegitimate son, Aron,
about 1788. Aron was married twice and in each marriage record only his
mother's name was mentioned. His death record also indicates his mother's
name. None of the records indicate his father's name. When Aron's mother,
Marjiam, died in 1850, the record indicated that she was the widow of
Lobber SCHUSTER. It's the first time his name has shown up and it's a
rather odd name. Aron had a son, Lob Arjie in 1830, leading me to suspect
that his father was probably this "Lobber". Has anyone run across the
name Lobber before?

Does anyone know how illegitimate children were viewed at that time?
Interestingly, Aron went on to have two illegitimate children of his own
with my relative (acknowledging them as his children), before finally
marrying her and having a third child with her. Many thanks,

Linda Silverman Shefler, San Francisco East Bay linda.shefler@...

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