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Russian Military Unit (WWI) Identification
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E Feinstein
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32922 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Eric FEINSTEIN Clifton, New Jersey
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian Military Unit (WWI) Identification
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E Feinstein
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32922 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Eric FEINSTEIN Clifton, New Jersey
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RADISHKONSKI in London 1873-1884
#general
Linda Caciola
Hi All-
I have the birth/death information for the following: Fanny RADISHKONSKI - b. March 1873 Joseph " - b. March 30, 1874- d. 1875 Ezekiel/Ascol " - b. 1875- d. Sept 1876 Deborah " - b. 1878 - d. 1878 Jacob " - b. 1879 Davis " - b. March 1880- d. March 1880 Abraham " - b. Sept. 12, 1884 They were all born/died in Mile End, Old Town, London, England Their parents were David Aron RADISHKONSKI and Basza Leja AVENSTEIN. They were married on Dec. 14, 1865 in Mariampole. I have looked in all England census records, probate records, and everything else I can think of, and can not find them. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Regards and thanks- Linda Thorpe Caciola Pittsburgh>Los Angeles>Orlando, FL
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RADISHKONSKI in London 1873-1884
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Linda Caciola
Hi All-
I have the birth/death information for the following: Fanny RADISHKONSKI - b. March 1873 Joseph " - b. March 30, 1874- d. 1875 Ezekiel/Ascol " - b. 1875- d. Sept 1876 Deborah " - b. 1878 - d. 1878 Jacob " - b. 1879 Davis " - b. March 1880- d. March 1880 Abraham " - b. Sept. 12, 1884 They were all born/died in Mile End, Old Town, London, England Their parents were David Aron RADISHKONSKI and Basza Leja AVENSTEIN. They were married on Dec. 14, 1865 in Mariampole. I have looked in all England census records, probate records, and everything else I can think of, and can not find them. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Regards and thanks- Linda Thorpe Caciola Pittsburgh>Los Angeles>Orlando, FL
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"Youngpell."
#ukraine
Joyce Field
Keren Weiner inquired about the identification of Youngpell. Could it be
Olgopol? Listing in JewishGen shows the following for Olgopol, Ukr 48=B012' N 29=B030' E=20 259 km SSW of Kyyiv Ol'gopol' [Rus, Yid], Ol'hopil' [Ukr], Olhopol [Pol], Ol'gapol', Olapolia Joyce Field West Lafayette, IN
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Russian Military unit Identification (WWI)
#ukraine
E Feinstein
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is
on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32922 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Eric FEINSTEIN Clifton, New Jersey
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine "Youngpell."
#ukraine
Joyce Field
Keren Weiner inquired about the identification of Youngpell. Could it be
Olgopol? Listing in JewishGen shows the following for Olgopol, Ukr 48=B012' N 29=B030' E=20 259 km SSW of Kyyiv Ol'gopol' [Rus, Yid], Ol'hopil' [Ukr], Olhopol [Pol], Ol'gapol', Olapolia Joyce Field West Lafayette, IN
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Russian Military unit Identification (WWI)
#ukraine
E Feinstein
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is
on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32922 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much. Eric FEINSTEIN Clifton, New Jersey
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List of illegal persons passing the Swiss border August 1942 - INFO FILE
#germany
Bert de Jong <bdejong67@...>
I have just uploaded the second list to Viewmate. I got these >from the
archive in Bern, Switzerland. This time it is a list >from the police in Bern, Switzerland dated October 2, 1942. It is a list of people who illegally passed the Swiss border in the last 2 weeks of August 1942 For easy search in the Gersig archive, here are the names on the list. Surname, given name, date of birth, a number ?, nationality BAUER Walter August 20, 1912 N3920 German HAGER Albert December 7, 1914 N4055 German GOSCH Jurgen November 11, 1913 N3839 German GELBERGER Clement Simon January 10, 1905 N4019 German ROTH Friedrich March 23, 1919 N3937 Czech ROTH Josef September 2, 1914 N3937 Czech GANS Arthur May 5, 1887 N3963 Czech BERMANN Paul August 20, 1898 N4056 Belgium TENAERTS Joseph March 9, 1922 N3922 Belgium PRIM Jean August 2, 1918 N3909 Luxembourg MAGAT Alexandre July 14, 1915 N4025 Polish KULCZUK Herz Lajb July 7, 1889 N3854 Polish NASIELSKI Bernhard December 11, 1919 N3566 Polish NASIELSKI Arye June 13, 1918 N3566 Polish BANACH Henandel March 28, 1907 N3867 Polish CHALEF Josef September 4, 1914 N3867 Polish PARISER Oswald January 25, 1925 N3890 Polish BACKENROTH Herman July 3, 1909 N3890 Polish KON Szlama Zelman February 15, 1923 N3912 Polish WOLZTEIN Abcam Abe September 7, 1918 N3912 Polish HABER Bernhard October 7, 1916 N3935 Polish MUNVES Lucien June 20, 1917 N3935 Polish PIPER Wolf November 2, 1895 N3953 Polish SILBERSTEIN Marcel July 20, 1912 N3987 Polish FUSSMANN Michel April 18, 1908 N3859 Russian HALBREICH Martin October 28, 1897 N3988 Yugoslavia DREWS Helmut April 19, 1921 N3984 Latvia LEVITINAS Leonidas January 2, 1919 N4022 Lithuania REINER Sylvain February 23, 1921 N4051 Romania HELMAN Sokrates August 17, 1909 N4071 Romania ENGLER Hermann August 15, 1912 N4071 Romania BELACHATOVSCI Menachem April 23, 1901 N3824 Stateless ENGEL Gerhard August 27, 1923 N3899 Stateless RATH Arthur Israel January 22, 1919 N3903 Stateless DZENTSELSKY David August 22, 1899 N3904 Stateless LEYSER Alfred March 3, 1901 N3906 Stateless SCHULZ Robert April 2, 1909 N3906 Stateless HERZOG Siegfried August 8, 1908 N3908 Stateless HIRSCHSTEIN Rudolf January 27, 1916 N3908 Stateless ZELLSCHAN Hans September 11, 1913 N3813 Stateless MAMELOK Herbert Gerhard Israel March 20, 1902N3923 Stateless HIRSCH Emil November 21, 1909 N3933 Stateless ROTHENBERG Leopold October 22, 1916 N3933 Stateless OFFENBERG Wolf April 5, 1921 N3939 Stateless LEVY Bruno July 24, 1909N3952 Stateless GELLEY Henri March 31, 1892 N3961 Stateless GELLEY Richard February16, 1923 N3961 Stateless SAFFIR Otto February 26, 1907 N3965 Stateless KATZ Robert June 12, 1912 N3965 Stateless HANNACH Leonhard May 29, 1900 N3971 Stateless HEILBRUN Rolf August 27, 1908 N3977 Stateless PRESSNER Wilhelm January 7, 1918 N3981 Stateless GOETZL Erwin July 27, 1916 N3981 Stateless HOROWITZ Maximilien January 17, 1899 N3981 Stateless DRESDENER Gerhardt July 11, 1920 N4004 Stateless PEISER Erich September 18, 1886 N4008 Stateless WALDER Max May 27, 1886 N4010 Stateless BLAU Erwin October 31, 1906 N4011 Stateless SACK Max December 5, 1902 N4012 Stateless GUGGENHEIM HansJuly 14, 1922 N4024 Stateless LEVY Ernest July 27, 1909 N4054 Stateless Link to the lists: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32897 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32898 Regards, Bert de Jong The Netherlands Moderator Note: Mr. de Jong has provided thousands of Berlin cemetery records to JewishGen (JOWBR) and has been extremely generous in helping others via ViewMate and the GerSIG Forum.
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German SIG #Germany List of illegal persons passing the Swiss border August 1942 - INFO FILE
#germany
Bert de Jong <bdejong67@...>
I have just uploaded the second list to Viewmate. I got these >from the
archive in Bern, Switzerland. This time it is a list >from the police in Bern, Switzerland dated October 2, 1942. It is a list of people who illegally passed the Swiss border in the last 2 weeks of August 1942 For easy search in the Gersig archive, here are the names on the list. Surname, given name, date of birth, a number ?, nationality BAUER Walter August 20, 1912 N3920 German HAGER Albert December 7, 1914 N4055 German GOSCH Jurgen November 11, 1913 N3839 German GELBERGER Clement Simon January 10, 1905 N4019 German ROTH Friedrich March 23, 1919 N3937 Czech ROTH Josef September 2, 1914 N3937 Czech GANS Arthur May 5, 1887 N3963 Czech BERMANN Paul August 20, 1898 N4056 Belgium TENAERTS Joseph March 9, 1922 N3922 Belgium PRIM Jean August 2, 1918 N3909 Luxembourg MAGAT Alexandre July 14, 1915 N4025 Polish KULCZUK Herz Lajb July 7, 1889 N3854 Polish NASIELSKI Bernhard December 11, 1919 N3566 Polish NASIELSKI Arye June 13, 1918 N3566 Polish BANACH Henandel March 28, 1907 N3867 Polish CHALEF Josef September 4, 1914 N3867 Polish PARISER Oswald January 25, 1925 N3890 Polish BACKENROTH Herman July 3, 1909 N3890 Polish KON Szlama Zelman February 15, 1923 N3912 Polish WOLZTEIN Abcam Abe September 7, 1918 N3912 Polish HABER Bernhard October 7, 1916 N3935 Polish MUNVES Lucien June 20, 1917 N3935 Polish PIPER Wolf November 2, 1895 N3953 Polish SILBERSTEIN Marcel July 20, 1912 N3987 Polish FUSSMANN Michel April 18, 1908 N3859 Russian HALBREICH Martin October 28, 1897 N3988 Yugoslavia DREWS Helmut April 19, 1921 N3984 Latvia LEVITINAS Leonidas January 2, 1919 N4022 Lithuania REINER Sylvain February 23, 1921 N4051 Romania HELMAN Sokrates August 17, 1909 N4071 Romania ENGLER Hermann August 15, 1912 N4071 Romania BELACHATOVSCI Menachem April 23, 1901 N3824 Stateless ENGEL Gerhard August 27, 1923 N3899 Stateless RATH Arthur Israel January 22, 1919 N3903 Stateless DZENTSELSKY David August 22, 1899 N3904 Stateless LEYSER Alfred March 3, 1901 N3906 Stateless SCHULZ Robert April 2, 1909 N3906 Stateless HERZOG Siegfried August 8, 1908 N3908 Stateless HIRSCHSTEIN Rudolf January 27, 1916 N3908 Stateless ZELLSCHAN Hans September 11, 1913 N3813 Stateless MAMELOK Herbert Gerhard Israel March 20, 1902N3923 Stateless HIRSCH Emil November 21, 1909 N3933 Stateless ROTHENBERG Leopold October 22, 1916 N3933 Stateless OFFENBERG Wolf April 5, 1921 N3939 Stateless LEVY Bruno July 24, 1909N3952 Stateless GELLEY Henri March 31, 1892 N3961 Stateless GELLEY Richard February16, 1923 N3961 Stateless SAFFIR Otto February 26, 1907 N3965 Stateless KATZ Robert June 12, 1912 N3965 Stateless HANNACH Leonhard May 29, 1900 N3971 Stateless HEILBRUN Rolf August 27, 1908 N3977 Stateless PRESSNER Wilhelm January 7, 1918 N3981 Stateless GOETZL Erwin July 27, 1916 N3981 Stateless HOROWITZ Maximilien January 17, 1899 N3981 Stateless DRESDENER Gerhardt July 11, 1920 N4004 Stateless PEISER Erich September 18, 1886 N4008 Stateless WALDER Max May 27, 1886 N4010 Stateless BLAU Erwin October 31, 1906 N4011 Stateless SACK Max December 5, 1902 N4012 Stateless GUGGENHEIM HansJuly 14, 1922 N4024 Stateless LEVY Ernest July 27, 1909 N4054 Stateless Link to the lists: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32897 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM32898 Regards, Bert de Jong The Netherlands Moderator Note: Mr. de Jong has provided thousands of Berlin cemetery records to JewishGen (JOWBR) and has been extremely generous in helping others via ViewMate and the GerSIG Forum.
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Pilica and Ogrodzienec 1790/1791 Census
#general
Ben Forman
Hi Genners
A Polish colleague >from Kielce region showed me this earlier today, a transcription of the 1790/91 census of Pilica which included the neighbouring village of Ogrodzienec. http://www.jura-pilica.com/?ludnosc-zydowska-w-pilicy-w-1791-roku,445 I have a scanned copy of the original >from another researcher and had shown it to my colleague. More information about the history of the Jews in Pilica can be found here: http://www.jura-pilica.com/?spolecznosc-zydowska,118 Google translate gives a reasonably good translation. Hope it's useful to you. Ben Ben Forman Manchester UK,(currently exiled in London) searching: BENSON: Hasenpoth/Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai; CAHN/CAHEN/WOLF: Zuendorf/Bruhl/Lechenich/Ahrweiler; FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; STILLMAN:Pilica/Ogrodzienec SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pilica and Ogrodzienec 1790/1791 Census
#general
Ben Forman
Hi Genners
A Polish colleague >from Kielce region showed me this earlier today, a transcription of the 1790/91 census of Pilica which included the neighbouring village of Ogrodzienec. http://www.jura-pilica.com/?ludnosc-zydowska-w-pilicy-w-1791-roku,445 I have a scanned copy of the original >from another researcher and had shown it to my colleague. More information about the history of the Jews in Pilica can be found here: http://www.jura-pilica.com/?spolecznosc-zydowska,118 Google translate gives a reasonably good translation. Hope it's useful to you. Ben Ben Forman Manchester UK,(currently exiled in London) searching: BENSON: Hasenpoth/Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai; CAHN/CAHEN/WOLF: Zuendorf/Bruhl/Lechenich/Ahrweiler; FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; STILLMAN:Pilica/Ogrodzienec SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
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need researcher for Grodno archives
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Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
Dear Genners:
I want to hire someone to do some research in the Grodno archives. There is only one researcher listed in the infofiles for Belarus. Has anyone found someone else who did good work? Ruth Hyman Rockville Centre, NY 11570 MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen need researcher for Grodno archives
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Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
Dear Genners:
I want to hire someone to do some research in the Grodno archives. There is only one researcher listed in the infofiles for Belarus. Has anyone found someone else who did good work? Ruth Hyman Rockville Centre, NY 11570 MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
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Re: Official records from nazi era may still contain illegal entries
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
You are asking the office to take primary source documents and discard them,
in favor of eliminating what you find offensive in history? Any time you want to know precisely when and where something happened, you look for primary source records. I have primary source records of my family in Germany - which also include the 'offensive' middle names. That is what happened there at that time. Wiping the history out of the records will not mean it didn't happen, and we should be reminded of it. If you do research you should be looking for primary source documents. When you find them, you don't ask for them to be changed - eliminating the primary source. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ "Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel' inserted. These additional middle names became mandatory for German Jews in January 1939. snip.....
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Official records from nazi era may still contain illegal entries
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
You are asking the office to take primary source documents and discard them,
in favor of eliminating what you find offensive in history? Any time you want to know precisely when and where something happened, you look for primary source records. I have primary source records of my family in Germany - which also include the 'offensive' middle names. That is what happened there at that time. Wiping the history out of the records will not mean it didn't happen, and we should be reminded of it. If you do research you should be looking for primary source documents. When you find them, you don't ask for them to be changed - eliminating the primary source. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ "Although the photostat of his original familienstammbuch page was written in 1930 (and was attached to the official record), the town's typewritten portion STILL has his Nazi era middle name 'Israel' inserted. These additional middle names became mandatory for German Jews in January 1939. snip.....
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New York City Delayed Births
#general
Mara Fein, PhD, CG <mfein@...>
I have identified a birth certificate for Manhattan >from 1898. The
certificate no. is listed as 6015D. It is my understanding that "D" stands for delayed and there are separate rolls for these delayed birth certificates, but I do not see any identification on FHL rolls that suggest that they contain them. Is anyone familiar with this issue who might tell me if they are on FHL microfilms and where, or if the search must be done at NYC Municipal Archives? Mara Fein Los Angeles, California mfein@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Delayed Births
#general
Mara Fein, PhD, CG <mfein@...>
I have identified a birth certificate for Manhattan >from 1898. The
certificate no. is listed as 6015D. It is my understanding that "D" stands for delayed and there are separate rolls for these delayed birth certificates, but I do not see any identification on FHL rolls that suggest that they contain them. Is anyone familiar with this issue who might tell me if they are on FHL microfilms and where, or if the search must be done at NYC Municipal Archives? Mara Fein Los Angeles, California mfein@...
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Looking for PEARLMAN descendents in the UK and USA
#general
rcbernstein
Hi,
I have good reason to believe that I'm related to PEARLMANS/PERELMANS that left Eastern Europe during the late 19th century for London and NY and would like to get in touch with any of the people listed below. In particular, I'd like to get in touch with the UK PEARLMANS who are descendents of Morris PEARLMAN born in Europe aorund 1893. His parents and family were Aron and Sarah born around 1865 (and their children David, Hannah, Rebecca, Hyman, Morris, Emanuel, Alec, Rachel, Hillel, Dora, Fanny, Michael, and Barnett). The US PEARLMANS would be descendents of Motel and Freyda born around 1848 (and children Sarah, Rosa, Lea/Lillie). I would like to be in touch with descendents of any of these people. Thanks, Ruvane Bernstein. (Beitar, Israel)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for PEARLMAN descendents in the UK and USA
#general
rcbernstein
Hi,
I have good reason to believe that I'm related to PEARLMANS/PERELMANS that left Eastern Europe during the late 19th century for London and NY and would like to get in touch with any of the people listed below. In particular, I'd like to get in touch with the UK PEARLMANS who are descendents of Morris PEARLMAN born in Europe aorund 1893. His parents and family were Aron and Sarah born around 1865 (and their children David, Hannah, Rebecca, Hyman, Morris, Emanuel, Alec, Rachel, Hillel, Dora, Fanny, Michael, and Barnett). The US PEARLMANS would be descendents of Motel and Freyda born around 1848 (and children Sarah, Rosa, Lea/Lillie). I would like to be in touch with descendents of any of these people. Thanks, Ruvane Bernstein. (Beitar, Israel)
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