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Re: Cabots Court/London #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 8:12 AM -0400 8/15/06, HPOLLINS@aol.com wrote:

The London E14 places mentioned were in the area of the London Docks. On the
whole Jews did not live there.

Harold Pollins
Oxford
Dear Harold,

Maybe not the post-1880 East European Jewish immigrants; but some of the older
(pre 1880) Dutch-descended English Jews did live in basically non-Jewish parts
of he East End, including some closer to the Docks. My maternal
grandparents Priscilla Cohen and Mark Marks were living at addresses very near
the Docks when they married in 1903.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Bigamy #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

--- Gert Lord <gitty1@earthlink.net> wrote:

In the early 20th century, some immigrant men
married here when they had wives and children in
Europe. A number of them were sent prison. Where
may I get these records. It would be NY State or
City that would hold the info I am seeking.
I posted this back in May. There is an online search
engine with dates, inmate numbers, details of each
crime etc. at the "New York State Department of
Correctional Services". It is called the "Inmate
Population Information Search". The link is below.

nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us

Sincerely,
Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A


Re: Lomza naming patterns #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 3:12 AM +0000 8/12/06, Alexander Sharon wrote in reply to Stan,
who had said:

"Kantrowicz", the son of the H.azan, the Cantor. The son of the Tsar was
> "Tsarewicz", in Polish spelling.

Actually Stan, in Polish, spelling is Carewicz, and is not a popular
Polish name.
Many thanks to Alex for straightening that out for us. I consider
him the gold standard when it comes to Slavic surnames, and would
always take his opinion when it conflicts with that of anyone else.
In passing, may I mention the famous British horse race named after
the son of some Czar or other -- perhaps a cousin of Queen Victoria?
The race is the Cesarewitch -- which manages to mangle the spelling
without helping much with the correct pronunciation!

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cabots Court/London #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 8:12 AM -0400 8/15/06, HPOLLINS@aol.com wrote:

The London E14 places mentioned were in the area of the London Docks. On the
whole Jews did not live there.

Harold Pollins
Oxford
Dear Harold,

Maybe not the post-1880 East European Jewish immigrants; but some of the older
(pre 1880) Dutch-descended English Jews did live in basically non-Jewish parts
of he East End, including some closer to the Docks. My maternal
grandparents Priscilla Cohen and Mark Marks were living at addresses very near
the Docks when they married in 1903.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bigamy #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

--- Gert Lord <gitty1@earthlink.net> wrote:

In the early 20th century, some immigrant men
married here when they had wives and children in
Europe. A number of them were sent prison. Where
may I get these records. It would be NY State or
City that would hold the info I am seeking.
I posted this back in May. There is an online search
engine with dates, inmate numbers, details of each
crime etc. at the "New York State Department of
Correctional Services". It is called the "Inmate
Population Information Search". The link is below.

nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us

Sincerely,
Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lomza naming patterns #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 3:12 AM +0000 8/12/06, Alexander Sharon wrote in reply to Stan,
who had said:

"Kantrowicz", the son of the H.azan, the Cantor. The son of the Tsar was
> "Tsarewicz", in Polish spelling.

Actually Stan, in Polish, spelling is Carewicz, and is not a popular
Polish name.
Many thanks to Alex for straightening that out for us. I consider
him the gold standard when it comes to Slavic surnames, and would
always take his opinion when it conflicts with that of anyone else.
In passing, may I mention the famous British horse race named after
the son of some Czar or other -- perhaps a cousin of Queen Victoria?
The race is the Cesarewitch -- which manages to mangle the spelling
without helping much with the correct pronunciation!

Judith Romney Wegner


COHEN LEWIS #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

I am trying to trace descendants of Reyna ( nee Dekromme ) Cohen and Jacob
( John ) Cohen - who lost a son in WW1 .
Their daughter Abby ( Abigail) Cohen b. 1893 married David Lewis and had a
daughter
17/01/1919.- There is sister of Abigail named Maria Cohen b 1898 who I
cannot trace.

The family were based in E London

Thank you in advance for any assistance

Aubrey Jcobus
London


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom COHEN LEWIS #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

I am trying to trace descendants of Reyna ( nee Dekromme ) Cohen and Jacob
( John ) Cohen - who lost a son in WW1 .
Their daughter Abby ( Abigail) Cohen b. 1893 married David Lewis and had a
daughter
17/01/1919.- There is sister of Abigail named Maria Cohen b 1898 who I
cannot trace.

The family were based in E London

Thank you in advance for any assistance

Aubrey Jcobus
London


Re: Gender of my Great Grandparents #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 8:00 AM -0400 8/14/06, jscohen@umich.edu wrote:
I have been receiving a great deal of help >from a volunteer
geneologist. He has identified the names of three of my great
grandparents as "Matis", "Judah" and "Fugah". I am uncertain as to
the gender represented by each of these names.

Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Julius Cohen
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA

Dear Julius.

Judah is a masculine name. Your own name -- Julius -- reflects the
Hebrew name Judah. Julius is a very common Anglicization of the name
Judah (in Hebrew, Yehudah). So presumably your own Hebrew name is
Yehudah.

Judah is one of the most famous names in the Bible. As the moderator
already pointed out, he was a son of Jacob and became the eponymous
ancestor of the tribe of Judah, >from whom most Jews (other than
Kohanim or Levi'im) traditionally believe themselves to be
descended. The very word "Jew" itself comes >from the adjective
Judaean (via the Greek Ioudaios and the Latin Judaeus.

Matis is another masculine name -- most likely an abbreviation of
Mattisyahu -- usually rendered Mattathias in English translations of
the Book of Maccabees (found not in the Bible but in the Apocrypha)
where he appears as the High Priest of Modin and the father of the
Judas Maccabaeus. The New Testament version of Mattisyahu is
Matthias or Matthew.)

As for "Fugah", this could perhaps be corruption of Feigele
(pronounced Fay-ge-la) which is not Hebrew but Yiddish; if so, it
is a a woman's name. It comes >from the German word Vogel meaning
"bird" and is often a Yiddish translation of the biblical Hebrew name
Zipporah, likewise meaning bird. According to the book of Exodus,
she was the daughter of Jethro, a Midianite priest and became the
wife of Moses (incidentally, their children Gershom and Eliezer are
among many examples showing that Israelite descent in biblical times
was patrilineal, and not matrilineal at all -- that was a much later
historical development!)

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gender of my Great Grandparents #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 8:00 AM -0400 8/14/06, jscohen@umich.edu wrote:
I have been receiving a great deal of help >from a volunteer
geneologist. He has identified the names of three of my great
grandparents as "Matis", "Judah" and "Fugah". I am uncertain as to
the gender represented by each of these names.

Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Julius Cohen
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA

Dear Julius.

Judah is a masculine name. Your own name -- Julius -- reflects the
Hebrew name Judah. Julius is a very common Anglicization of the name
Judah (in Hebrew, Yehudah). So presumably your own Hebrew name is
Yehudah.

Judah is one of the most famous names in the Bible. As the moderator
already pointed out, he was a son of Jacob and became the eponymous
ancestor of the tribe of Judah, >from whom most Jews (other than
Kohanim or Levi'im) traditionally believe themselves to be
descended. The very word "Jew" itself comes >from the adjective
Judaean (via the Greek Ioudaios and the Latin Judaeus.

Matis is another masculine name -- most likely an abbreviation of
Mattisyahu -- usually rendered Mattathias in English translations of
the Book of Maccabees (found not in the Bible but in the Apocrypha)
where he appears as the High Priest of Modin and the father of the
Judas Maccabaeus. The New Testament version of Mattisyahu is
Matthias or Matthew.)

As for "Fugah", this could perhaps be corruption of Feigele
(pronounced Fay-ge-la) which is not Hebrew but Yiddish; if so, it
is a a woman's name. It comes >from the German word Vogel meaning
"bird" and is often a Yiddish translation of the biblical Hebrew name
Zipporah, likewise meaning bird. According to the book of Exodus,
she was the daughter of Jethro, a Midianite priest and became the
wife of Moses (incidentally, their children Gershom and Eliezer are
among many examples showing that Israelite descent in biblical times
was patrilineal, and not matrilineal at all -- that was a much later
historical development!)

Judith Romney Wegner


NY Cemetery records #general

Jslevey@...
 

Hi,

I thought I'd see if I could find cemetery records of those of my ancestors
that came to NY. I knew that I had grandparents and great grandparents on my
mother's side buried in Mt. Hebron cemetery in Flushing, NY, so that was
relatively easy.

I lucked out and found my paternal grandfather at Mount Carmel. Both those
cemeteries have their own websites where you can do interment searches. My
problem is that I have some ancestors who came to NYC died in NYC but I don't
know what cemetery they are buried in. Is there any way short of writing to
each individual cemetery of finding out where they are. Do any databases or
any other similar tools exist?

Janette Levey Frisch


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY Cemetery records #general

Jslevey@...
 

Hi,

I thought I'd see if I could find cemetery records of those of my ancestors
that came to NY. I knew that I had grandparents and great grandparents on my
mother's side buried in Mt. Hebron cemetery in Flushing, NY, so that was
relatively easy.

I lucked out and found my paternal grandfather at Mount Carmel. Both those
cemeteries have their own websites where you can do interment searches. My
problem is that I have some ancestors who came to NYC died in NYC but I don't
know what cemetery they are buried in. Is there any way short of writing to
each individual cemetery of finding out where they are. Do any databases or
any other similar tools exist?

Janette Levey Frisch


Amuletic Names #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Dear Nick

I am not an expert on the subject, but it is my understanding that when a
child became ill, the family might change the child's name to fool the angel
of death. Names such as Chaim and Chaia, meaning "life" were used. In the
instance that I cited in my original posting, I referred to Aunt Annie, who
was named Chaia Chana. In this case, the Chaia was added to her name. I
wonder if this was the way it was (is) done by adding the word OR is it
more common to change the name entirely?

"Nick Landau" <N.Landau@btopenworld.com> wrote:

I had never heard the term "amuletic name" previously but I see
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/GivenNames/slide10.html (although I know
what an amulet is).

from what I read I gather "Chia" would strictly be the amuletic name
meaning alive.
Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Rockville, MD
Researching:
KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia.
HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL.
SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania


LitvakSIG Election Results #lithuania

esjoachim@...
 

I am pleased to report the results of the LitvakSIG election, held at
the annual meeting on Monday, August 14 at the IAJGS Conference in New
York City.

The proposal to amend the Bylaws was passed, and the LitvakSIG Board is
now comprised of nine (9) elected directors.

There was one nomination >from the floor: Joel Ratner, who accepted the
nomination.

The following were elected to the Board:

Carol Coplin Baker

Judy Baston

Ada Green

David B. Hoffman

Merle Kastner

Howard Margol

Mike Posnick

Aaron Roetenberg

Olga Zabludoff

The new board held its first meeting Tuesday, August 15 and elected the
following officers

President - Howard Margol

Secretary - Merle Kastner

Treasurer - Aaron Roetenberg

Respectfully submitted,
Eden Joachim
Election Chair


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Amuletic Names #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Dear Nick

I am not an expert on the subject, but it is my understanding that when a
child became ill, the family might change the child's name to fool the angel
of death. Names such as Chaim and Chaia, meaning "life" were used. In the
instance that I cited in my original posting, I referred to Aunt Annie, who
was named Chaia Chana. In this case, the Chaia was added to her name. I
wonder if this was the way it was (is) done by adding the word OR is it
more common to change the name entirely?

"Nick Landau" <N.Landau@btopenworld.com> wrote:

I had never heard the term "amuletic name" previously but I see
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/GivenNames/slide10.html (although I know
what an amulet is).

from what I read I gather "Chia" would strictly be the amuletic name
meaning alive.
Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Rockville, MD
Researching:
KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia.
HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL.
SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LitvakSIG Election Results #lithuania

esjoachim@...
 

I am pleased to report the results of the LitvakSIG election, held at
the annual meeting on Monday, August 14 at the IAJGS Conference in New
York City.

The proposal to amend the Bylaws was passed, and the LitvakSIG Board is
now comprised of nine (9) elected directors.

There was one nomination >from the floor: Joel Ratner, who accepted the
nomination.

The following were elected to the Board:

Carol Coplin Baker

Judy Baston

Ada Green

David B. Hoffman

Merle Kastner

Howard Margol

Mike Posnick

Aaron Roetenberg

Olga Zabludoff

The new board held its first meeting Tuesday, August 15 and elected the
following officers

President - Howard Margol

Secretary - Merle Kastner

Treasurer - Aaron Roetenberg

Respectfully submitted,
Eden Joachim
Election Chair


Name Alice #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Dear Cousins:

My stepdaughter is named for her mother's Aunt Annie, born in Baltimore. The
family was >from Russia, now Ukraine. Aunt Annie had an amuletic name, "Chia
Chana." Chana being the Hebrew name for Annie.

Regards,
Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Rockville, MD
Researching:
KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia.
HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL.
SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name Alice #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Dear Cousins:

My stepdaughter is named for her mother's Aunt Annie, born in Baltimore. The
family was >from Russia, now Ukraine. Aunt Annie had an amuletic name, "Chia
Chana." Chana being the Hebrew name for Annie.

Regards,
Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Rockville, MD
Researching:
KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia.
HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL.
SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania


Re: Cabots Court, London #general

david nathan <d.nathan1@...>
 

<<Moderator Note: There is a Cabot Square in London's East End (E14 4EY)>.

This is a relatively new development, part of the London Docklands
regeneration project, completed in the 1990s and would, therefore, have
nothing to do with Marilyn Feingold's original request.

It is more likely that the Cabots Court she is seeking no longer exists as a
large part of the area in which I believe this stood was obliterated by the
German bombers who demolished large parts of East London in WW2.

David Nathan, London, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cabots Court, London #general

david nathan <d.nathan1@...>
 

<<Moderator Note: There is a Cabot Square in London's East End (E14 4EY)>.

This is a relatively new development, part of the London Docklands
regeneration project, completed in the 1990s and would, therefore, have
nothing to do with Marilyn Feingold's original request.

It is more likely that the Cabots Court she is seeking no longer exists as a
large part of the area in which I believe this stood was obliterated by the
German bombers who demolished large parts of East London in WW2.

David Nathan, London, England