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Re: Burial Societies: Next Steps to Take? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Alex Magocsi sought information about the Fidelis Society, which had a
plot a Mount Zion Cemetery in Maspeth (Queens), N.Y., and asked whether
the burial society exited, where their records might be found, and whether
the cemetery might have more information than that available on-line?
Their first burial was in 1937, the last was 1987.

Here are some things to do to obtain more information for any "burial
society"

1. Call the cemetery. They keep a last known contact number, usually the
group's president, cemetery committee chairman, or equivalent, for every
society. They usually don't know whether or not the group still exists,
but they always have somebody's name on record, whether it's somebody who
died 50 years ago, or a contact person who had nothing to do with a
disbanded group but received a small amount of money to arrange for
burials that were reserved while the group was still in existence.

2. Get the exact name of the group >from the cemetery. Then look on line
via www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/ to see if there are other cemeteries (in
this case in the New York City area, which includes Queens, Brooklyn,
Staten Island, Long Island, Westchester, and New Jersey) in which the
group may own another plot. The plot at Maspeth may have been filled, or
the fallen into disrepair, or simply fallen out of favor with the
membership for a newer cemetery, which may still be active, or at least
have more recent information.

3. Especially if this burial society was a landsmanshaft, call YIVO or
search their information at home.att.net/~landsmanshaft/yivo.htm
(unfortunately, in this case, Fidelis is not listed).

4. Assuming that this group is or was a non-profit corporation in the
State of New York, call the New York State Department of State to see if
they have any current information (unlikely, but worth a try), or
information about a merger with another group or a name change.

Regards,

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Burial Societies - Thank you #general

Alex Magocsi
 

Thank you to all for the replies.
You have given me the push I needed.
Sometimes the answer is so obvious and yet we don't see it.

Thank you
Alex W Magocsi
York, Maine USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Burial Societies: Next Steps to Take? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Alex Magocsi sought information about the Fidelis Society, which had a
plot a Mount Zion Cemetery in Maspeth (Queens), N.Y., and asked whether
the burial society exited, where their records might be found, and whether
the cemetery might have more information than that available on-line?
Their first burial was in 1937, the last was 1987.

Here are some things to do to obtain more information for any "burial
society"

1. Call the cemetery. They keep a last known contact number, usually the
group's president, cemetery committee chairman, or equivalent, for every
society. They usually don't know whether or not the group still exists,
but they always have somebody's name on record, whether it's somebody who
died 50 years ago, or a contact person who had nothing to do with a
disbanded group but received a small amount of money to arrange for
burials that were reserved while the group was still in existence.

2. Get the exact name of the group >from the cemetery. Then look on line
via www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/ to see if there are other cemeteries (in
this case in the New York City area, which includes Queens, Brooklyn,
Staten Island, Long Island, Westchester, and New Jersey) in which the
group may own another plot. The plot at Maspeth may have been filled, or
the fallen into disrepair, or simply fallen out of favor with the
membership for a newer cemetery, which may still be active, or at least
have more recent information.

3. Especially if this burial society was a landsmanshaft, call YIVO or
search their information at home.att.net/~landsmanshaft/yivo.htm
(unfortunately, in this case, Fidelis is not listed).

4. Assuming that this group is or was a non-profit corporation in the
State of New York, call the New York State Department of State to see if
they have any current information (unlikely, but worth a try), or
information about a merger with another group or a name change.

Regards,

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Burial Societies - Thank you #general

Alex Magocsi
 

Thank you to all for the replies.
You have given me the push I needed.
Sometimes the answer is so obvious and yet we don't see it.

Thank you
Alex W Magocsi
York, Maine USA


TWEKEN Name #general

Bubylu@...
 

Hello all,

I just came across the name of my maternal great-grandmother and it is >from
my grandparents marriage license application. As both of my grandparents
were new to America I'm sure that their accents changed the sound and
pronouncement of the name. I would so appreciate help with this name...What
else could it be? I already checked Jewishgen soundex but nothing really
sounded the same or near the same to me. The name was:
Hustel TWEKEN. My grandparents came >from a town about 40 miles >from
Czernovitz.

Any and all help will be so very appreciated.
Wishing us all good luck on our searches.

Sincerely,
Lois Segall Friedman
Bubylu@aol.com
Delray Beach, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TWEKEN Name #general

Bubylu@...
 

Hello all,

I just came across the name of my maternal great-grandmother and it is >from
my grandparents marriage license application. As both of my grandparents
were new to America I'm sure that their accents changed the sound and
pronouncement of the name. I would so appreciate help with this name...What
else could it be? I already checked Jewishgen soundex but nothing really
sounded the same or near the same to me. The name was:
Hustel TWEKEN. My grandparents came >from a town about 40 miles >from
Czernovitz.

Any and all help will be so very appreciated.
Wishing us all good luck on our searches.

Sincerely,
Lois Segall Friedman
Bubylu@aol.com
Delray Beach, FL


Re: Robinson family name #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

The sister of the late Rabbi Louis Rabinowitz was Dr. Flora (or Florence)
Robinson. She was the doctor for students at the Hebrew University in the
early fifties and I did not know of the relationship until I read Rabbi
Rabinowitz's obituary. There is also historian Jacob Robinson and Nehemiah
Robinson.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Omer, Israel


Re: cemeteries in israel #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:18:21 UTC, nachum613@gmail.com (Nachum Tuchman)
opined:

I can't get into the Haifa burial data base. I'm sure that it's a
problem with my computer. I am copying information that I have for
several Israeli cemeteries, in the hope that it may be of help to
others, which includes the Haifa data base.
Please drop me an email and tell me in what way the Haifa site fails to load
in your computer. There is no reason why you should not see it and use it;
it is a pity that you didn't supply a bit of information that might have
helped us help you. Computers have no way to differentiate between one
website and another; if your machine lacks something that the site requires
(probably an appropriate Java installation in this case) the lack is easily
remedied; sometimes (not in this case, however) sites are so amateurishly
designed that you are not the only one that can't use them -- and even
knowing about that is better than simpy shrugging one's shoulders and saying
that one's computer is unhappy with the site.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.

MODERATOR NOTE: Extended discussions of the interactions of websites
with the many combinations of hardware and software used by our thousands
of readers are beyond the scope of this forum. Please respond privately to
Stan (using his website as described). For a wider audience, please use the
newsgroup soc.genealogy.computing, which is devoted to the use of
computers in genealogy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Robinson family name #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

The sister of the late Rabbi Louis Rabinowitz was Dr. Flora (or Florence)
Robinson. She was the doctor for students at the Hebrew University in the
early fifties and I did not know of the relationship until I read Rabbi
Rabinowitz's obituary. There is also historian Jacob Robinson and Nehemiah
Robinson.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Omer, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: cemeteries in israel #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:18:21 UTC, nachum613@gmail.com (Nachum Tuchman)
opined:

I can't get into the Haifa burial data base. I'm sure that it's a
problem with my computer. I am copying information that I have for
several Israeli cemeteries, in the hope that it may be of help to
others, which includes the Haifa data base.
Please drop me an email and tell me in what way the Haifa site fails to load
in your computer. There is no reason why you should not see it and use it;
it is a pity that you didn't supply a bit of information that might have
helped us help you. Computers have no way to differentiate between one
website and another; if your machine lacks something that the site requires
(probably an appropriate Java installation in this case) the lack is easily
remedied; sometimes (not in this case, however) sites are so amateurishly
designed that you are not the only one that can't use them -- and even
knowing about that is better than simpy shrugging one's shoulders and saying
that one's computer is unhappy with the site.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.

MODERATOR NOTE: Extended discussions of the interactions of websites
with the many combinations of hardware and software used by our thousands
of readers are beyond the scope of this forum. Please respond privately to
Stan (using his website as described). For a wider audience, please use the
newsgroup soc.genealogy.computing, which is devoted to the use of
computers in genealogy.


viewmate Hebrew translation help needed #general

Bea <blspabas@...>
 

Hello again,

I have made a slight mistake! The letter that I'm hoping someone can help
me translate, is in fact written in Hebrew and not Yiddish!!
Please email me privately if you can help translate this -
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=8759

Thanks again

B.Shiel (London) blspabas@btinternet.com

SILVER, SVIDLER, SVIDLERS
SEWELL, SHUEL, SHIELL, SHIEL
BLACKMAN
KING
SCHAFFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen viewmate Hebrew translation help needed #general

Bea <blspabas@...>
 

Hello again,

I have made a slight mistake! The letter that I'm hoping someone can help
me translate, is in fact written in Hebrew and not Yiddish!!
Please email me privately if you can help translate this -
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=8759

Thanks again

B.Shiel (London) blspabas@btinternet.com

SILVER, SVIDLER, SVIDLERS
SEWELL, SHUEL, SHIELL, SHIEL
BLACKMAN
KING
SCHAFFER


Do you have a connection to the Polish shtetl Polaniec (Planch, Plontch) ? #general

gottlm@...
 

The First Plancher Benevolent Society, founded in 1919, is a
still-functioning "landsleit" society. We have regular meetings in
NYC and will soon host an anniversary banquet.

The Anniversary Banquet is fast approaching - Sunday, November
12, in Queens, NYC. We will begin with our annual Yizkor
Commemmoration at 11:30am, followed by the dinner.

I am the president of the society and also the webmaster of a site
devoted to the history and memory of the shtetl. Please visit at
www.plontch.net.

Regards,
Michael Gottlieb
gottlm@optonline.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you have a connection to the Polish shtetl Polaniec (Planch, Plontch) ? #general

gottlm@...
 

The First Plancher Benevolent Society, founded in 1919, is a
still-functioning "landsleit" society. We have regular meetings in
NYC and will soon host an anniversary banquet.

The Anniversary Banquet is fast approaching - Sunday, November
12, in Queens, NYC. We will begin with our annual Yizkor
Commemmoration at 11:30am, followed by the dinner.

I am the president of the society and also the webmaster of a site
devoted to the history and memory of the shtetl. Please visit at
www.plontch.net.

Regards,
Michael Gottlieb
gottlm@optonline.net


Importance of SIGs for specialist postings - with ref. to Austria -Czech SIG #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

In the latest edition of NU - the Avotaynu E-zine of Jewish Genealogy, [Vol 7
No 17 Oct 29th], Gary Mokotoff, the Editor has a section entitled: <"The
Importance of Special Interest Groups"..... There is an aspect of Jewish
genealogy, Special Interest Groups (SIGs), that I have avoided covering in Nu?
What's New? on the grounds that anyone doing Jewish research is aware of them,
...... I now realize this is wrong, because many people doing Jewish research
are not aware of SIGs....."> see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/sigs.htm

As a keen member of the Austria-Czech SIG:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/
I have long been aware of this gaping hole - and this is once again highlighted
today by two postings on the General Dicussion Group which are so specialised
that their home territory really ought to be the Austria-Czech SIG. We do have
over 700 members who have a wide knowledge in this geographic area of the
Habsburg Empire and you are unlikely to find this on the General Discussion
Group. Furthermore, many of our members [probably the majority] do not get the
General Discussion Group postings, so they would not be in a position to reply.
Personal links may therefore be lost.

One of these postings is entitled: Origin of surname LUNDENBURG, where Larry
Hlasav asks: <Can anyone help me with a question regarding the 1787 edict of
Emperor Joseph (Austria) requiring Jewish families to adopt German surnames in
his Empire?> And the question continues on the subject of LUNDENBURG as a
toponymic. Answer: Yes, I can certainly attempt to answer this question, but I
wonder if the General Discussion Group is the place for a detailed answer?

The second is BAK / BACK and TRISCH / FRISCH, in Prague, Zlatniky and Slatiny,
Czech Republic where Gabriela Novak is seeking any information on these family
members who lived in Prague and in the town of Zlatniky and Slatiny, near
Prague. Gabriela has posted information on Roots web, but so far I have seen
nothing on the Austria-Czech SIG. It is well-worth a try!

BTW I am delighted to say that one of our active and best-informed Siggers* on
the subject of the town of Lundenburg [Breclav], Moravia is our nonagenarian
from Lundenburg, who entertained our SIG members royally at his home in Herzlia
last March!

Celia Male [U.K.]

PS: For our new correspondents: a Sigger is a Jewishgen term for a member of a
SIG!


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Importance of SIGs for specialist postings - with ref. to Austria -Czech SIG #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

In the latest edition of NU - the Avotaynu E-zine of Jewish Genealogy, [Vol 7
No 17 Oct 29th], Gary Mokotoff, the Editor has a section entitled: <"The
Importance of Special Interest Groups"..... There is an aspect of Jewish
genealogy, Special Interest Groups (SIGs), that I have avoided covering in Nu?
What's New? on the grounds that anyone doing Jewish research is aware of them,
...... I now realize this is wrong, because many people doing Jewish research
are not aware of SIGs....."> see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/sigs.htm

As a keen member of the Austria-Czech SIG:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/
I have long been aware of this gaping hole - and this is once again highlighted
today by two postings on the General Dicussion Group which are so specialised
that their home territory really ought to be the Austria-Czech SIG. We do have
over 700 members who have a wide knowledge in this geographic area of the
Habsburg Empire and you are unlikely to find this on the General Discussion
Group. Furthermore, many of our members [probably the majority] do not get the
General Discussion Group postings, so they would not be in a position to reply.
Personal links may therefore be lost.

One of these postings is entitled: Origin of surname LUNDENBURG, where Larry
Hlasav asks: <Can anyone help me with a question regarding the 1787 edict of
Emperor Joseph (Austria) requiring Jewish families to adopt German surnames in
his Empire?> And the question continues on the subject of LUNDENBURG as a
toponymic. Answer: Yes, I can certainly attempt to answer this question, but I
wonder if the General Discussion Group is the place for a detailed answer?

The second is BAK / BACK and TRISCH / FRISCH, in Prague, Zlatniky and Slatiny,
Czech Republic where Gabriela Novak is seeking any information on these family
members who lived in Prague and in the town of Zlatniky and Slatiny, near
Prague. Gabriela has posted information on Roots web, but so far I have seen
nothing on the Austria-Czech SIG. It is well-worth a try!

BTW I am delighted to say that one of our active and best-informed Siggers* on
the subject of the town of Lundenburg [Breclav], Moravia is our nonagenarian
from Lundenburg, who entertained our SIG members royally at his home in Herzlia
last March!

Celia Male [U.K.]

PS: For our new correspondents: a Sigger is a Jewishgen term for a member of a
SIG!


Gailzion Kroenlande, Austria #general

Bubylu@...
 

I just came across some papers listing my grandfather coming >from Gailzion
Kroenlande, Austria. I tried doing a look up on this and came up empty handed.
I was hoping that someone could help me locate this town.

Thank you in advance.
Wishing us all good luck on our searches

Lois Segall Friedman
Bubylu@aol.com
Delray Beach, FL
formally >from NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gailzion Kroenlande, Austria #general

Bubylu@...
 

I just came across some papers listing my grandfather coming >from Gailzion
Kroenlande, Austria. I tried doing a look up on this and came up empty handed.
I was hoping that someone could help me locate this town.

Thank you in advance.
Wishing us all good luck on our searches

Lois Segall Friedman
Bubylu@aol.com
Delray Beach, FL
formally >from NJ


Re: Botosani #romania

Eugene Vaynshteyn <vaynshteyn@...>
 

My paternal grandmother's maiden name was BATUSHANSKY. Her family is >from
Alexandreni, near Balti. She and her surviving siblings lived in Balti after
WWII, but even her grandmother who died earlier and never lived in Balti was
burried there. Perhaps, that was the closest Jewish cemetery? Does anyone
know where to find a directory of Jewish cemeteries for different historical
periods? Also, the surname reflects Botosani origin (in Russian it means,
"of Botosani"), but must have been given to her ancestors who settled
elsewhere. There is an unrelated family with the same name on my mother's
side as well. Is it possible to trace them to any "wave" of Botosani
migrants and to determine the time period when they left Botosani?

Eugene Vaynshteyn
Passaic, NJ
MODERATOR NOTE: The IAJGS cemetery database is available on JewishGen. It is under
the heading "Hosted Organizations" on the JewishGen home page. Also remember to
check our own JOWBR registry.


Romania SIG #Romania RE: Botosani #romania

Eugene Vaynshteyn <vaynshteyn@...>
 

My paternal grandmother's maiden name was BATUSHANSKY. Her family is >from
Alexandreni, near Balti. She and her surviving siblings lived in Balti after
WWII, but even her grandmother who died earlier and never lived in Balti was
burried there. Perhaps, that was the closest Jewish cemetery? Does anyone
know where to find a directory of Jewish cemeteries for different historical
periods? Also, the surname reflects Botosani origin (in Russian it means,
"of Botosani"), but must have been given to her ancestors who settled
elsewhere. There is an unrelated family with the same name on my mother's
side as well. Is it possible to trace them to any "wave" of Botosani
migrants and to determine the time period when they left Botosani?

Eugene Vaynshteyn
Passaic, NJ
MODERATOR NOTE: The IAJGS cemetery database is available on JewishGen. It is under
the heading "Hosted Organizations" on the JewishGen home page. Also remember to
check our own JOWBR registry.