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Slovakian settlement in hte 18th century #hungary

alex.miller@juno.com <alex.miller@...>
 

Hello Friends,

Vivian's request for conference topics focused me on the stumbling
block in my research. This may or may not warrant a dedicated session,
however there has been no discussion in this area at all.

Here is what I am referring to: The earliest Jewish settlement in NE
Hungary dates back to the second half of the 18th century. MAD in
Zemplen , NAGYKALLO in Szabolcs as examples. There were smaller
villages as well such as Hotyka in Zemplen where Ignatz and Hana Muller
lived at least >from 1790's.

However the Jewish settlement in the Western Slovak counties(Saros,
Arva etc)seems to have preceded these by a century if not more. Just
looking at the new records in the all Hungarian database (AHD)there are
numerous Mullers listed. It is likely therefore that these northern
counties were the forerunners for the early settlements in Zemplen and
Szabolcs.

I'd like to find information about these northern counties and the
Jewish history of the towns there

Alex Miller
Downingtown, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Slovakian settlement in hte 18th century #hungary

alex.miller@juno.com <alex.miller@...>
 

Hello Friends,

Vivian's request for conference topics focused me on the stumbling
block in my research. This may or may not warrant a dedicated session,
however there has been no discussion in this area at all.

Here is what I am referring to: The earliest Jewish settlement in NE
Hungary dates back to the second half of the 18th century. MAD in
Zemplen , NAGYKALLO in Szabolcs as examples. There were smaller
villages as well such as Hotyka in Zemplen where Ignatz and Hana Muller
lived at least >from 1790's.

However the Jewish settlement in the Western Slovak counties(Saros,
Arva etc)seems to have preceded these by a century if not more. Just
looking at the new records in the all Hungarian database (AHD)there are
numerous Mullers listed. It is likely therefore that these northern
counties were the forerunners for the early settlements in Zemplen and
Szabolcs.

I'd like to find information about these northern counties and the
Jewish history of the towns there

Alex Miller
Downingtown, PA


Re: austrian military records #hungary

Tomer Brunner
 

Tom Klein <h-sig@ecologicaltech.com> wrote:
Has anyone successfully obtained records >from the military archives
(Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv - Kriegsarchiv) in Vienna, for
hungarians who served in the k und k army?

In 2000 I wrote to the Kriegsarchiv in Vienna, asking for details about my
great-grandfathers
and some cousins of my grandmother.
Few of these people were born in Slovakia and living in Hungary,
One was born and living in Galicia and one was born and living in
Transylvania.

The reply (in German, which arrived after less then 2 months >from sending my
letter)
had 3 lines with info about the relative >from Transylvania (born in 1892).
It gave his year and place of birth, religion, rank, number of military unit
and date and place
of death (during WWI). He was an officer.

There was more info about a certain Viktor Szekely SCHWARTZ (1877-1915),
which is not
the person I was looking for.

At that time I was told that there is no info about my g-grandfathers and an
uncle of my grandmother, all were surely in the Austrian military.

Some time later (maybe a year, but I'm not sure) I received another letter,
with many pages of
info regarding my grandmother's uncle, rabbi Michael DUSCHINSKY (c. 1870 -
1939), who was
the rabbi of Rakospalota and a military rabbi.
This was very nice since I didn't send the archive any further mail, but
still they followed up
when they (for whatever reason) found more details!

I was also suggested by the Kriegsarchiv direktor to contact the Hungarian
military archives.
I did so and received a reply, in English, saying that they don't have any
documents regarding
my relatives.
They also wrote that the archives collect mainly data of the professional
officers.


The Hungarian military archive (address for 2000):

Hadtortenelmi Leveltar
Kapisztran ter 2-4
Budapest, H - 1250


The Austrian war archive:

Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv - Kriegsarchiv
1030 Wien
Nottendorfer Gasse 2


I hope it helps,
Tomer Brunner, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: austrian military records #hungary

Tomer Brunner
 

Tom Klein <h-sig@ecologicaltech.com> wrote:
Has anyone successfully obtained records >from the military archives
(Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv - Kriegsarchiv) in Vienna, for
hungarians who served in the k und k army?

In 2000 I wrote to the Kriegsarchiv in Vienna, asking for details about my
great-grandfathers
and some cousins of my grandmother.
Few of these people were born in Slovakia and living in Hungary,
One was born and living in Galicia and one was born and living in
Transylvania.

The reply (in German, which arrived after less then 2 months >from sending my
letter)
had 3 lines with info about the relative >from Transylvania (born in 1892).
It gave his year and place of birth, religion, rank, number of military unit
and date and place
of death (during WWI). He was an officer.

There was more info about a certain Viktor Szekely SCHWARTZ (1877-1915),
which is not
the person I was looking for.

At that time I was told that there is no info about my g-grandfathers and an
uncle of my grandmother, all were surely in the Austrian military.

Some time later (maybe a year, but I'm not sure) I received another letter,
with many pages of
info regarding my grandmother's uncle, rabbi Michael DUSCHINSKY (c. 1870 -
1939), who was
the rabbi of Rakospalota and a military rabbi.
This was very nice since I didn't send the archive any further mail, but
still they followed up
when they (for whatever reason) found more details!

I was also suggested by the Kriegsarchiv direktor to contact the Hungarian
military archives.
I did so and received a reply, in English, saying that they don't have any
documents regarding
my relatives.
They also wrote that the archives collect mainly data of the professional
officers.


The Hungarian military archive (address for 2000):

Hadtortenelmi Leveltar
Kapisztran ter 2-4
Budapest, H - 1250


The Austrian war archive:

Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv - Kriegsarchiv
1030 Wien
Nottendorfer Gasse 2


I hope it helps,
Tomer Brunner, Israel


Military Archives #hungary

Joan and Sam Kraus <jnskraus@...>
 

Two messages in the last digest inquired about K und K archives. I
believe these archives are in the military museum in Budapest. The
officers were listed in a yearly book, grouped by their organization,
and with the date of promotion given. plus other information. The
military record of the officer may be also available, I used a
researcher who found and translated these for my grandfather.

Samuel Kraus

Rancho Palos Verdes, California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Military Archives #hungary

Joan and Sam Kraus <jnskraus@...>
 

Two messages in the last digest inquired about K und K archives. I
believe these archives are in the military museum in Budapest. The
officers were listed in a yearly book, grouped by their organization,
and with the date of promotion given. plus other information. The
military record of the officer may be also available, I used a
researcher who found and translated these for my grandfather.

Samuel Kraus

Rancho Palos Verdes, California


LEDERER, POPPER, KOHN etc from Bohemia on "Free" ships' passenger lists. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Do make good use of the free passenger lists on the well-known genealogy site
[free till end of November].

I entered LEDERER and Bohemia as place of origin in
"Refine your search" of the New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
and left all other field blank and these popped up:

There were KOHN [162] LEDERER [104] POPPER [46] SCHULHOF [20] >from Bohemia.

I have found rarer early Bohemian immigrants BRANDEIS [10]; BERNARD [9];
GRUNHUT [2]; KARPELES [1]; WACHTL [1 together with Emmanuel KURZ on the same
boat - 24 Nov 188l. There are three LEMBERGER indexed >from Bohemia - Ottilie
born 1867 in Budin and arriving alone aged 21 as well as Josef [dob 1849] and
Catharina [dob 1847] but no place of origin.

But then I entered Bohemian instead of Bohemia and different names popped up!
So one has to experiment.

If you enter "Moravia" and no family name you get 80 entries in all - only one
can be identified as Jewish and he is Adolf KOHNSTEIN designated as a "white"
waiter in 1949!

But now enter "Moravian' into the same field and leave the name blank - you get
9,054. I followed some up - Leo BEINSTEIN and his wife - he was listed from
Vienna so the Moravian entry is a bit of a mystery. I believe it was used
mainly for on Jewish Czechs. It turns up for a US couple called BUTLER as well.


If you enter "Moravia" into the "keywords" field, you find far more, because
unfortunately there was a ship called SS Moravia.

You can also enter Brunn, Prague, Pilsen, Teplitz, Pressburg and see what turns
up. It is a hit and miss affair with these early records but we might as well
see if we can find anything valuable. I already have!

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech LEDERER, POPPER, KOHN etc from Bohemia on "Free" ships' passenger lists. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Do make good use of the free passenger lists on the well-known genealogy site
[free till end of November].

I entered LEDERER and Bohemia as place of origin in
"Refine your search" of the New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
and left all other field blank and these popped up:

There were KOHN [162] LEDERER [104] POPPER [46] SCHULHOF [20] >from Bohemia.

I have found rarer early Bohemian immigrants BRANDEIS [10]; BERNARD [9];
GRUNHUT [2]; KARPELES [1]; WACHTL [1 together with Emmanuel KURZ on the same
boat - 24 Nov 188l. There are three LEMBERGER indexed >from Bohemia - Ottilie
born 1867 in Budin and arriving alone aged 21 as well as Josef [dob 1849] and
Catharina [dob 1847] but no place of origin.

But then I entered Bohemian instead of Bohemia and different names popped up!
So one has to experiment.

If you enter "Moravia" and no family name you get 80 entries in all - only one
can be identified as Jewish and he is Adolf KOHNSTEIN designated as a "white"
waiter in 1949!

But now enter "Moravian' into the same field and leave the name blank - you get
9,054. I followed some up - Leo BEINSTEIN and his wife - he was listed from
Vienna so the Moravian entry is a bit of a mystery. I believe it was used
mainly for on Jewish Czechs. It turns up for a US couple called BUTLER as well.


If you enter "Moravia" into the "keywords" field, you find far more, because
unfortunately there was a ship called SS Moravia.

You can also enter Brunn, Prague, Pilsen, Teplitz, Pressburg and see what turns
up. It is a hit and miss affair with these early records but we might as well
see if we can find anything valuable. I already have!

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Slovakian town by name of Rajec #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Avigdor Ben-Dov Yad of the LeZehava Holocaust Research Institute
Kedumim, Israel has followed on his question on the river Vah [Waag] with this
query: <..... another town I am unsure about is spelled in Hebrew
resh-aleph-yud-yud-tzadek. Could this be Rajec in Slovakia?>

Avigdor please look at this:
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/slov-m-z.html

I have heard today that the cemetery was very overgrown.

Please do make use of "search this website" field on the Jewishgen homepage:
http://www.jewishgen.org/

Yes, Jewishgen does have a homepage [not just a General Discussion Group and
SIGs!] and many do not make enough use of it. You may find many answers there
to your future Slovakian [and other] questions: ie

ie http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Pinkas_Slovakia/Slo065.html

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Slovakian town by name of Rajec #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Avigdor Ben-Dov Yad of the LeZehava Holocaust Research Institute
Kedumim, Israel has followed on his question on the river Vah [Waag] with this
query: <..... another town I am unsure about is spelled in Hebrew
resh-aleph-yud-yud-tzadek. Could this be Rajec in Slovakia?>

Avigdor please look at this:
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/slov-m-z.html

I have heard today that the cemetery was very overgrown.

Please do make use of "search this website" field on the Jewishgen homepage:
http://www.jewishgen.org/

Yes, Jewishgen does have a homepage [not just a General Discussion Group and
SIGs!] and many do not make enough use of it. You may find many answers there
to your future Slovakian [and other] questions: ie

ie http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Pinkas_Slovakia/Slo065.html

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Crossing points US to Quebec circa 1910 #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

I believe the most direct rail connection >from New York City to Montreal
would have crossed the border at Rousses Point, NY. My grandfather went
from Montreal to New York City along that route in 1899, and passenger
trains still follow that route today.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY
PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com

"Donna Dinberg" <blacknus@rogers.com> wrote > On 22 Nov 2006, Joy Weaver wrote:
If they did, indeed, travel by train >from NY to Montreal, where would their
border crossing into Canada be likely, if not those two places?
On another page at the Library and Archives Canada (formerly National
Archives of Canada) website, you will find details of the various
methods utilized at various times for recording border entry into Canada.
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-908.005-e.html

If you do not find the information you seek within the website, you may submit
genealogical questions to the Canadian Genealogy Centre via an online form:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-300-e.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Crossing points US to Quebec circa 1910 #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

I believe the most direct rail connection >from New York City to Montreal
would have crossed the border at Rousses Point, NY. My grandfather went
from Montreal to New York City along that route in 1899, and passenger
trains still follow that route today.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY
PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com

"Donna Dinberg" <blacknus@rogers.com> wrote > On 22 Nov 2006, Joy Weaver wrote:
If they did, indeed, travel by train >from NY to Montreal, where would their
border crossing into Canada be likely, if not those two places?
On another page at the Library and Archives Canada (formerly National
Archives of Canada) website, you will find details of the various
methods utilized at various times for recording border entry into Canada.
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-908.005-e.html

If you do not find the information you seek within the website, you may submit
genealogical questions to the Canadian Genealogy Centre via an online form:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-300-e.html


EMANUEL in 19th cent. Virginia #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for someone called Loew EMANUEL (or Herman Loeb), born in 1825 and
was in Blacksburg, Virginia about 1860, and possibly later in Richmond. He
had children - Rosalie (1826-29) and Caroline (Gutel) born 1829.
Any help appreciated.
Dr. Neil Rosenstein
Elizabeth, N.J.
neil@tali.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EMANUEL in 19th cent. Virginia #general

Neil@...
 

Looking for someone called Loew EMANUEL (or Herman Loeb), born in 1825 and
was in Blacksburg, Virginia about 1860, and possibly later in Richmond. He
had children - Rosalie (1826-29) and Caroline (Gutel) born 1829.
Any help appreciated.
Dr. Neil Rosenstein
Elizabeth, N.J.
neil@tali.com


Searching MERKIN family #general

Mark Budman <budman@...>
 

Hello,

I am looking for my MERKIN family in Buenos Aires. My great uncle was Motie
MERKIN (deceased) had a son. Apparently, his son has a family living in
Buenos Aires and possibly Israel. My grandmother, Bryna Kovshoff, is the
sister of Motie Merkin. She was born in 1889 and her family came >from Beish
Navata outside of Kiev. Motie Merkin was younger and I believe he was a
farmer there.

If you have any information, please contact my cousin, Mark Budman at his
e-mail address: budman@generation.net

Warm regards,

Judie Budman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching MERKIN family #general

Mark Budman <budman@...>
 

Hello,

I am looking for my MERKIN family in Buenos Aires. My great uncle was Motie
MERKIN (deceased) had a son. Apparently, his son has a family living in
Buenos Aires and possibly Israel. My grandmother, Bryna Kovshoff, is the
sister of Motie Merkin. She was born in 1889 and her family came >from Beish
Navata outside of Kiev. Motie Merkin was younger and I believe he was a
farmer there.

If you have any information, please contact my cousin, Mark Budman at his
e-mail address: budman@generation.net

Warm regards,

Judie Budman


Military/Genealogy question, Morris FRIEDMAN #general

David Priever
 

Hi Fellow Jewishgenners,

I am trying to track down a person in the 1930 Federal census. I found
someone who I believe is him as a few known facts about him >from the 1910
FC, 1920 FC and 1925 NYS Census match with the 1930 person.

His name is Morris FRIEDMAN. He was born 1904-05 in Brooklyn, NY to Joseph
and Sarah FRIEDMAN, who were both born in Russia.

I found the FRIEDMAN family enumerated in the 1910 and 1920 Federal Census
records and the 1925 NYS Census. I believe I found Joseph and Sarah in the
1930 FC.

A brother, David, may have married after 1925 and possibly before 1930. I
found eight (8) possibilities in the marriage databases of the Italiangen
website.

A brother, Israel, perished in World War 1.

As for this Morris, his age was 25 in 1930, he was born in New York and both
his parents were born in Russia. He was a soldier stationed at Fort Dupont
in New Castle, Delaware at the US Military Reservation.

What records might be available for soldiers stationed here? This was in
between wars so I am not certain what I may be able to find or if I can
ascertain if this is the correct Morris (Moses in 1910) FREIDMAN, son of
Joseph and Sarah.

Any help you can give will be, as usual, greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

David J. Priever
brooklyn1960@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Military/Genealogy question, Morris FRIEDMAN #general

David Priever
 

Hi Fellow Jewishgenners,

I am trying to track down a person in the 1930 Federal census. I found
someone who I believe is him as a few known facts about him >from the 1910
FC, 1920 FC and 1925 NYS Census match with the 1930 person.

His name is Morris FRIEDMAN. He was born 1904-05 in Brooklyn, NY to Joseph
and Sarah FRIEDMAN, who were both born in Russia.

I found the FRIEDMAN family enumerated in the 1910 and 1920 Federal Census
records and the 1925 NYS Census. I believe I found Joseph and Sarah in the
1930 FC.

A brother, David, may have married after 1925 and possibly before 1930. I
found eight (8) possibilities in the marriage databases of the Italiangen
website.

A brother, Israel, perished in World War 1.

As for this Morris, his age was 25 in 1930, he was born in New York and both
his parents were born in Russia. He was a soldier stationed at Fort Dupont
in New Castle, Delaware at the US Military Reservation.

What records might be available for soldiers stationed here? This was in
between wars so I am not certain what I may be able to find or if I can
ascertain if this is the correct Morris (Moses in 1910) FREIDMAN, son of
Joseph and Sarah.

Any help you can give will be, as usual, greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

David J. Priever
brooklyn1960@hotmail.com


Translation of Hebrew Writing on Headstone (ViewMate 8887 & 8888) #general

Paul A. Auerbach
 

Genners,

I've recently posted on ViewMate a couple of photographs of the headstone of
my second great-grandmother, Minnie Pelican:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8887
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8888

As you can see, the stone is in very poor shape. The only Hebrew I can
clearly make out is "Here Lies" at the top of the stone and the abbreviation
for "May Her Soul Be Bound Up in the Bonds of Eternal Life." I'm hoping
someone can translate at least some of the remaining Hebrew for me.

Just in case, it's helpful, here's what the English portion of the stone
says:

"In Memory of Minnie, Beloved Wife of Alexander Pelican, Who Died 23rd July
1897, Aged 59."

July 23, 1897 converts to 23 Tamuz 5657 in the Jewish calendar. Also, the
Hebrew name of Minnie's husband was Yekutiel.

Please reply directly to me at PAuerbach@yahoo.com.

Thanks very much for your help.

Paul Auerbach
Boston, Massachusetts

Researching:

ARONSON (Podolia (Gubernia), Ukraine), AUERBACH / AVERBUKH (Chisinau, Moldova),
BENJAMIN (Ostroleka, Poland), BLODEK (Krakow, Poland), CHAKUM (Maisiagala /
Vilnius, Lithuania), KAPLAN (Minsk, Belarus), LEVINE (Vilnius, Lithuania),
MINKIN (Rezekne / Kaunata, Latvia), NEEDLE / NUDELL (Odessa, Ukraine), PELICAN /
PELIKAN (London, England / Krakow, Poland),
ROSENLICHT (Krakow, Poland), TAFFET (Krakow, Poland)


I Am Seeking The Aid Of A Philadelphian In Helping me Retrieve A Marriage Record #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello All

I need someone's aid in getting me a copy of a 1912 Philadelphia
Marriage Record. I will gladly reimburse you for the copy fees. I have
the names of the party and the certificate number. So, If you can help
me please contact me and I will give you the information.

Sarah Greeenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@aol.com