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Interesting aid to finding elusive people
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Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
It's sometimes frustratingly difficult to locate relatives whose
contact information is unlisted in the usual sources. Locating their friends and acquaintances can be a useful first step to getting a genealogical query to them. I've just learned of a database that can be helpful in a select group of these cases, where the lost person attended Harvard College. It seems likely that similar databases are available for other schools. The database is called "Dorm History Search". It lists the occupants of Harvard freshman dorms by room and year. It's been maintained by a series of undergraduates for several years, and can be searched by name and room number. If you look up your relative, you'll find their freshman room number. You can then search for all occupants of that room and neighboring rooms. It's likely that a freshman roommate will have more recent information about your relative, and will be easier to find, especially if they have a more unusual name. This database is of particular interest because Harvard College's student population in the postwar years has been about 20-25% Jewish, although the percentage may have decreased a bit in recent years due to competition >from Asians. The database may be accessed at http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~dorms/index.cgi? Dick Plotz Providence RI USA Dick@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Interesting aid to finding elusive people
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Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
It's sometimes frustratingly difficult to locate relatives whose
contact information is unlisted in the usual sources. Locating their friends and acquaintances can be a useful first step to getting a genealogical query to them. I've just learned of a database that can be helpful in a select group of these cases, where the lost person attended Harvard College. It seems likely that similar databases are available for other schools. The database is called "Dorm History Search". It lists the occupants of Harvard freshman dorms by room and year. It's been maintained by a series of undergraduates for several years, and can be searched by name and room number. If you look up your relative, you'll find their freshman room number. You can then search for all occupants of that room and neighboring rooms. It's likely that a freshman roommate will have more recent information about your relative, and will be easier to find, especially if they have a more unusual name. This database is of particular interest because Harvard College's student population in the postwar years has been about 20-25% Jewish, although the percentage may have decreased a bit in recent years due to competition >from Asians. The database may be accessed at http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~dorms/index.cgi? Dick Plotz Providence RI USA Dick@...
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Finding out more about a Russian artist - Pavel Adamovich VELONSKY (1849-1931)
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peter hills <pmhills@...>
I am researching an unusual name - VELONSKY. I recently came across a
reference to a sale item at Sotheby's last year to a sculpture by a Russian artist called Pavel Adamovich Velonsky (1849-1931). I would be grateful for any advice on how to find out more about this artist even it means leaving my keyboard and visiting a reference library in London! An email to Sotheby's seeking help was not answered. Thank you Peter Hills London UK VELONSKY Jurbarkas , Raseiniai and West End of London (Soho) RAYMOND/RAYMAN/RIMAN Vilna and West End of London (Soho) BLUMENTHAL Ozerkov, Kalisz and London (Soho) DIAMONDSTONE Dvinsk PHILLIPS Dvinsk, Los Angeles and San Francisco PRUZAN Seattle and London
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding out more about a Russian artist - Pavel Adamovich VELONSKY (1849-1931)
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peter hills <pmhills@...>
I am researching an unusual name - VELONSKY. I recently came across a
reference to a sale item at Sotheby's last year to a sculpture by a Russian artist called Pavel Adamovich Velonsky (1849-1931). I would be grateful for any advice on how to find out more about this artist even it means leaving my keyboard and visiting a reference library in London! An email to Sotheby's seeking help was not answered. Thank you Peter Hills London UK VELONSKY Jurbarkas , Raseiniai and West End of London (Soho) RAYMOND/RAYMAN/RIMAN Vilna and West End of London (Soho) BLUMENTHAL Ozerkov, Kalisz and London (Soho) DIAMONDSTONE Dvinsk PHILLIPS Dvinsk, Los Angeles and San Francisco PRUZAN Seattle and London
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Re: Missing Records, Nucum SPULONSKY
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marspol5@...
Dear Genners:
I have been looking for the same three missing items to complete my dad Nucum SPULONSKY or Nathan Spolansky's history for some time now with no results. I have secured copies of his documents covering him from, the time he received his Naturalization papers in 1907 thru his demise in 1955,. but unable to locate any records of his entering into the United States at age 19, as a carpenter in 1904. I am still unable to locate is his 1904 ships manifests arriving into New York City A copy of his 1910 New York City census Also his 1920 Brooklyn, New York census. I might add, that in all the time I have been looking for these items I have not been informed by anyone that the records I seek have been destroyed, or lost, with that in mind I go on looking and hoping that one of you great Genners do come up with the needed information as to how or where to locate the missing information I seek Should anyone feel that I may have something in my dad's records that might be helpful, please ask and if I have same, I will gladly send it. Sincerely: MART---Florida Martin Spolansky
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Missing Records, Nucum SPULONSKY
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marspol5@...
Dear Genners:
I have been looking for the same three missing items to complete my dad Nucum SPULONSKY or Nathan Spolansky's history for some time now with no results. I have secured copies of his documents covering him from, the time he received his Naturalization papers in 1907 thru his demise in 1955,. but unable to locate any records of his entering into the United States at age 19, as a carpenter in 1904. I am still unable to locate is his 1904 ships manifests arriving into New York City A copy of his 1910 New York City census Also his 1920 Brooklyn, New York census. I might add, that in all the time I have been looking for these items I have not been informed by anyone that the records I seek have been destroyed, or lost, with that in mind I go on looking and hoping that one of you great Genners do come up with the needed information as to how or where to locate the missing information I seek Should anyone feel that I may have something in my dad's records that might be helpful, please ask and if I have same, I will gladly send it. Sincerely: MART---Florida Martin Spolansky
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2007 National Genealogy Hall of Fame (U.S.)
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Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
The National Genealogical Society invites organizations to submit
nominations for the 2007 National Genealogy Hall of Fame. This program, in existence for over twenty years, honors deceased genealogists whose superior achievements in American genealogy, for a period of ten years or more, have made a significant contribution to our field. Nominations for the National Genealogy Hall of Fame must be made by societies or similar organizations. Nominees must have been deceased for at least five years and have been actively engaged in the field of genealogy in the United States for at least ten years. Their contribution should be unique, pioneering or exemplary. For example they might have - authored books or articles that serve as models of genealogical research and writing and that added significantly to the body of published work on American families, or made significant corrections to previously published works. - made genealogical source records more readily available to the public by preserving, transcribing, translating, abstracting, indexing, and/or publishing such records. - shared with others knowledge of genealogical research methods and sources through teaching and lecturing and/or publication of educational materials. - contributed time, labor, and leadership to a genealogical organization or a genealogical periodical publication, thus enabling that organization or publication to make significant contributions to the field of genealogy in the United States. Nominations are due 1 March of each year. A committee will review them and a selection will be made and announced at the 2006 NGS conference that will be held in Chicago, Illinois. If your nominee is not selected, you can submit their name again in future years. The current committee consists of Shirley Langdon Wilcox, CG, FNGS, of Virginia, Sandra M. Hewlett, CG, of Pennsylvania, Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FNGS, FASG of Alabama, Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG of California, and Loretto D. Szucs of Illinois. Nominations must be made and signed by a society officer on an official nomination form that is available at the NGS website. To read more about the program and to obtain a form, visit www.ngsgenealogy.org and click on Conferences & Activities, and select Awards and then NGS Competitions. You may also write to National Genealogy Hall of Fame, 3108 Columbia Pike, Suite 300, Arlington, VA 22204-4304 and request a form. Joy Rich
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 2007 National Genealogy Hall of Fame (U.S.)
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Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
The National Genealogical Society invites organizations to submit
nominations for the 2007 National Genealogy Hall of Fame. This program, in existence for over twenty years, honors deceased genealogists whose superior achievements in American genealogy, for a period of ten years or more, have made a significant contribution to our field. Nominations for the National Genealogy Hall of Fame must be made by societies or similar organizations. Nominees must have been deceased for at least five years and have been actively engaged in the field of genealogy in the United States for at least ten years. Their contribution should be unique, pioneering or exemplary. For example they might have - authored books or articles that serve as models of genealogical research and writing and that added significantly to the body of published work on American families, or made significant corrections to previously published works. - made genealogical source records more readily available to the public by preserving, transcribing, translating, abstracting, indexing, and/or publishing such records. - shared with others knowledge of genealogical research methods and sources through teaching and lecturing and/or publication of educational materials. - contributed time, labor, and leadership to a genealogical organization or a genealogical periodical publication, thus enabling that organization or publication to make significant contributions to the field of genealogy in the United States. Nominations are due 1 March of each year. A committee will review them and a selection will be made and announced at the 2006 NGS conference that will be held in Chicago, Illinois. If your nominee is not selected, you can submit their name again in future years. The current committee consists of Shirley Langdon Wilcox, CG, FNGS, of Virginia, Sandra M. Hewlett, CG, of Pennsylvania, Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FNGS, FASG of Alabama, Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG of California, and Loretto D. Szucs of Illinois. Nominations must be made and signed by a society officer on an official nomination form that is available at the NGS website. To read more about the program and to obtain a form, visit www.ngsgenealogy.org and click on Conferences & Activities, and select Awards and then NGS Competitions. You may also write to National Genealogy Hall of Fame, 3108 Columbia Pike, Suite 300, Arlington, VA 22204-4304 and request a form. Joy Rich
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Weinberger
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Andrew Roth <andyroth@...>
I'm looking for any descendants or relatives of MORRIS WEINBERGER,
who, in 1950, lived at 2629 W. Ainslie Street, in what is now Chicago, IL 60625. The address appears to be a couple miles southeast of Northeastern Illinois University between East River Park and Winnemac Park. He would have been a senior citizen at that time. A brother to my grandmother, Berta Weinberger Princz, Morris apparently left Hungary before she was even born and she never met him until she came to America over 50 years later. Thank you. Sincerely, Andy Roth Greenbrae Marin County, CA Researching PRINCZ/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. ROTH/Satoraljaujhely, Hun. WEINBERGER/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. and Chicago , IL.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Weinberger
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Andrew Roth <andyroth@...>
I'm looking for any descendants or relatives of MORRIS WEINBERGER,
who, in 1950, lived at 2629 W. Ainslie Street, in what is now Chicago, IL 60625. The address appears to be a couple miles southeast of Northeastern Illinois University between East River Park and Winnemac Park. He would have been a senior citizen at that time. A brother to my grandmother, Berta Weinberger Princz, Morris apparently left Hungary before she was even born and she never met him until she came to America over 50 years later. Thank you. Sincerely, Andy Roth Greenbrae Marin County, CA Researching PRINCZ/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. ROTH/Satoraljaujhely, Hun. WEINBERGER/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. and Chicago , IL.
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Re: Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN
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Rosalind
This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope .
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN. But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try. GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not turrned up anything on her. Just a thought. Could you comment please Ros Jerusalem
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From: "Zvi & Rita Friedman" <rita_f@...> To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz Shalom Everyone,
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re:Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN
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Rosalind
This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope .
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN. But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try. GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not turrned up anything on her. Just a thought. Could you comment please Ros Jerusalem
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From: "Zvi & Rita Friedman" <rita_f@...> To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz Shalom Everyone,
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Seeking the whereabouts Of Louis MENDELSON's Children
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sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
Hello
I am trying to trace the kids of Louis & Rose MENDELSON who lived in Brooklyn, NY for many years. They had three children, Max who was born in Russia about 1907, Sylvia born in Brooklyn in 1910 and Celia born in Brooklyn in 1916. I am trying to either get a hold of them or their children. I believe Max married a Barbara or "Bobby", and One of my cousins thinks that they may have retired to Florida and most likely died there as well. I believe one of their children names is Erik Mendelson. Sylvia married a William "Bill" KASS, and I believe they may have lived in California and most likely died ther as well. One of their children's names is Jeffrey Kass. Celia >from what i was told married an army man, and thats all I know on that. I would like to get in touch with any of these people for they are descendants of the Mendelson line I have been working on, and i would love to ask them questions and find out if they have photo's that may have been passed down >from their father & grandfather Louis Mendelson. If you can help me or have any information then please contact me. Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT) sacredsisters3@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking the whereabouts Of Louis MENDELSON's Children
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sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
Hello
I am trying to trace the kids of Louis & Rose MENDELSON who lived in Brooklyn, NY for many years. They had three children, Max who was born in Russia about 1907, Sylvia born in Brooklyn in 1910 and Celia born in Brooklyn in 1916. I am trying to either get a hold of them or their children. I believe Max married a Barbara or "Bobby", and One of my cousins thinks that they may have retired to Florida and most likely died there as well. I believe one of their children names is Erik Mendelson. Sylvia married a William "Bill" KASS, and I believe they may have lived in California and most likely died ther as well. One of their children's names is Jeffrey Kass. Celia >from what i was told married an army man, and thats all I know on that. I would like to get in touch with any of these people for they are descendants of the Mendelson line I have been working on, and i would love to ask them questions and find out if they have photo's that may have been passed down >from their father & grandfather Louis Mendelson. If you can help me or have any information then please contact me. Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT) sacredsisters3@...
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Re: US Non-Immgrant Records?
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Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
Apparently I owe everyone an apology as both my subject and content was
confusing. My comment, "going to 'bil'(?) in Philadelphia, PA" seems to have been the most understood. The "(?)" was not a request for a definition of the abbreviation of "brother-in-law." Rather it was referencing my interpretation of the handwritting on the manifest. I believe it is "bil". The overall topic was the possibility of US govenment records for people who were just "visiting" as opposed to immigrating or seeking citizenship. My desire was to identify this family in order to determine if it is my ancestral family which I believe them to be. The answer to that question seems to have been answered by Mark Jacobson who detailed response I include below. In a word, the answer to my question was NO. According to the 1931 passenger listing of my great grandmother, Liba (LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FRYMORGEN, when she had been granted permanent resident status as a parent of "American" children she had been in the US as earlier as 1903 (to Philadelphia). I knew some of the family (including my grandmother) came through St. Louis where there were relatives but the Philadelphia connection was not known to me. It would be YEARS later that I would learn of "Uncle Sol" GLICKSMAN who arrived in Philadelphia in the 1890's. Until recently I have never really had "access" to the on line Philadelphia listings (where I just found the Apr 1939 manifest for my half great aunt). So a "KALKOPF" family going to Philadelphia is of great interest to me. I do not know if the subject family was attempting immigration or just visiting. My great grandfather, "Aaron", I was told was a tailor as was the subject husband. (Mark Jacobson ) "....The fact that they are listed on an immigration manifest and were not US citizens means (and there is no stamp "non-immigrant passenger" which was used for people in transit) means they were immigrants. There were no special immigration markings on manifests, the manifests themselves were immigration documentation. There were no entry visas before World War I, no 'resident aliens' before World War II, no other paperwork for immigrants. There was no immigrant legal status in the United States at this time nor for many years after. People could come and go at will, as long as they could purchase tickets, were not criminals or indigents, and the passed the medical inspection. These people were immigrants. They did not have to ever apply for naturalization, they were still immigrants. The only information ever added to manifests is an application for a Certificate of Arrival, one of the steps in the Petition process, and since they arrived in January 1906 this was before the Certificate of Arrival law existed, so if any one of them ever applied for citizenship there would be no Certificates of Arrival created for any of them. You have all the immigration paperwork which exists if you have the manifest." Thanks to all who responded to me and sorry for the confusion. Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA mcteer@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: US Non-Immgrant Records?
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Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
Apparently I owe everyone an apology as both my subject and content was
confusing. My comment, "going to 'bil'(?) in Philadelphia, PA" seems to have been the most understood. The "(?)" was not a request for a definition of the abbreviation of "brother-in-law." Rather it was referencing my interpretation of the handwritting on the manifest. I believe it is "bil". The overall topic was the possibility of US govenment records for people who were just "visiting" as opposed to immigrating or seeking citizenship. My desire was to identify this family in order to determine if it is my ancestral family which I believe them to be. The answer to that question seems to have been answered by Mark Jacobson who detailed response I include below. In a word, the answer to my question was NO. According to the 1931 passenger listing of my great grandmother, Liba (LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FRYMORGEN, when she had been granted permanent resident status as a parent of "American" children she had been in the US as earlier as 1903 (to Philadelphia). I knew some of the family (including my grandmother) came through St. Louis where there were relatives but the Philadelphia connection was not known to me. It would be YEARS later that I would learn of "Uncle Sol" GLICKSMAN who arrived in Philadelphia in the 1890's. Until recently I have never really had "access" to the on line Philadelphia listings (where I just found the Apr 1939 manifest for my half great aunt). So a "KALKOPF" family going to Philadelphia is of great interest to me. I do not know if the subject family was attempting immigration or just visiting. My great grandfather, "Aaron", I was told was a tailor as was the subject husband. (Mark Jacobson ) "....The fact that they are listed on an immigration manifest and were not US citizens means (and there is no stamp "non-immigrant passenger" which was used for people in transit) means they were immigrants. There were no special immigration markings on manifests, the manifests themselves were immigration documentation. There were no entry visas before World War I, no 'resident aliens' before World War II, no other paperwork for immigrants. There was no immigrant legal status in the United States at this time nor for many years after. People could come and go at will, as long as they could purchase tickets, were not criminals or indigents, and the passed the medical inspection. These people were immigrants. They did not have to ever apply for naturalization, they were still immigrants. The only information ever added to manifests is an application for a Certificate of Arrival, one of the steps in the Petition process, and since they arrived in January 1906 this was before the Certificate of Arrival law existed, so if any one of them ever applied for citizenship there would be no Certificates of Arrival created for any of them. You have all the immigration paperwork which exists if you have the manifest." Thanks to all who responded to me and sorry for the confusion. Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA mcteer@...
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Searching for Sara ARBESFELD
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Lauren Lebowitz <lauren1bravo@...>
I have been helping my grandfather's friend, Arie Letzter, research his
family. We found a page of testimony that was submitted for his father in 1955 by a woman named Sara ARBESFELD. She claims to be his cousin, yet Arie does not know who this woman is. Would anyone have any advice on how I can locate this woman or any of her family members? I am very new to geneaology and could use some help. In 1955, her address was Kfar Ata, Rehov Herzl **. Thank you so much, Lauren Lebowitz New York, New York MODERATOR NOTE: House number removed in line with JewishGen policy.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Sara ARBESFELD
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Lauren Lebowitz <lauren1bravo@...>
I have been helping my grandfather's friend, Arie Letzter, research his
family. We found a page of testimony that was submitted for his father in 1955 by a woman named Sara ARBESFELD. She claims to be his cousin, yet Arie does not know who this woman is. Would anyone have any advice on how I can locate this woman or any of her family members? I am very new to geneaology and could use some help. In 1955, her address was Kfar Ata, Rehov Herzl **. Thank you so much, Lauren Lebowitz New York, New York MODERATOR NOTE: House number removed in line with JewishGen policy.
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More Tips: Finding People in the United States
#general
Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
Also, don't forget the obvious. Check Social Security Death Index for last
residence & analyze with your other data. Google person. I have found many people through google especially people in teaching profession or those who have authored a paper. Found one person's spouse, a retired military officer, who placed his unlisted phone number & e-mail on his organization's website. Ellen Barbieri San Diego, CA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More Tips: Finding People in the United States
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Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
Also, don't forget the obvious. Check Social Security Death Index for last
residence & analyze with your other data. Google person. I have found many people through google especially people in teaching profession or those who have authored a paper. Found one person's spouse, a retired military officer, who placed his unlisted phone number & e-mail on his organization's website. Ellen Barbieri San Diego, CA
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