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Re: DURAN #general

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Thank you, Sol!
You wrote:
There is a large Duran Family in Santa Fe County, NM; US. They claim
ancestry back to the 1600s. There is some evidence that they had some
Jewish ancestry.
--------->
Yes I am aware of these Santa Fe DURAN. Many years ago I contacted one of
them. They all are Christians but in fact crypto-Jews. They fled >from Mexico
northwards >from the time the Inquisition was instituted there by the end of
the 16th century. They finally settled in New Mexico. Some DURAN converted
back to Judaism.

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: DURAN #general

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Thank you, Sol!
You wrote:
There is a large Duran Family in Santa Fe County, NM; US. They claim
ancestry back to the 1600s. There is some evidence that they had some
Jewish ancestry.
--------->
Yes I am aware of these Santa Fe DURAN. Many years ago I contacted one of
them. They all are Christians but in fact crypto-Jews. They fled >from Mexico
northwards >from the time the Inquisition was instituted there by the end of
the 16th century. They finally settled in New Mexico. Some DURAN converted
back to Judaism.

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger
Jerusalem


Lord Nathaniel Charles Jacob ROTHSCHILD #general

Laidback TJ <TiJonCox@...>
 

Does anybody know how to get in contact with Lord Nathaniel Charles Jacob
ROTHSCHILD?

Tijon COX
USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lord Nathaniel Charles Jacob ROTHSCHILD #general

Laidback TJ <TiJonCox@...>
 

Does anybody know how to get in contact with Lord Nathaniel Charles Jacob
ROTHSCHILD?

Tijon COX
USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


Minneapolis 1906 marriage license application question #general

roberta rosen
 

Dear Genners,

Does any one know if a 1906 Minneapolis marriage license application would name
the parent's of the bride? The actual license does not name parents; I'm hoping
the application, (which is available for viewing on micrifilm or for ordering)
might do so.

Thank you,
Roberta

Roberta Rosen Long Beach, CA
reply to: cypressteach@yahoo.com
KREMENETSKY/KATZ: Worms(Vinogradnoye),Balta, Ukraine, Tiraspol, Moldava, North
Dakota; MARYMONT/MAREMONT/MEYERS: Poland, Chicago, Rochester, NY
FRIEDLAND/SHAPIRO/CHARNEY: Berezena: Belarus
GOLDMAN/YARCHOANEVSKI/JASINOWSKI: Bialystok, Poland, Rochester, NY
ROSEN/ROJZMAN/SHATZ: Hrubieszow, Poland, Rochester, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Minneapolis 1906 marriage license application question #general

roberta rosen
 

Dear Genners,

Does any one know if a 1906 Minneapolis marriage license application would name
the parent's of the bride? The actual license does not name parents; I'm hoping
the application, (which is available for viewing on micrifilm or for ordering)
might do so.

Thank you,
Roberta

Roberta Rosen Long Beach, CA
reply to: cypressteach@yahoo.com
KREMENETSKY/KATZ: Worms(Vinogradnoye),Balta, Ukraine, Tiraspol, Moldava, North
Dakota; MARYMONT/MAREMONT/MEYERS: Poland, Chicago, Rochester, NY
FRIEDLAND/SHAPIRO/CHARNEY: Berezena: Belarus
GOLDMAN/YARCHOANEVSKI/JASINOWSKI: Bialystok, Poland, Rochester, NY
ROSEN/ROJZMAN/SHATZ: Hrubieszow, Poland, Rochester, NY


Re: Given name: Lewis #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

My GF was Leiser before he became Louis.
Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN/GUDSTEIN (sp), BERGER, JAGODA/YAGODA-Plock,
Poland/Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY; Galveston, TX.
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY.
WEISS-Brooklyn, NY; NEIBERG-Brooklyn, NY; DEL PINO-Brooklyn, NY.
KATZ, GELFAND-Minsk, Belarus; Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

----- Original Message -----
From: Annemarie Jutel
My friend's great grandfather >from Bialystok was known to her as Lewis
Medovonik. "Lewis" is not in the given names database - any suggestions as
to what his birth name might have been?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given name: Lewis #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

My GF was Leiser before he became Louis.
Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN/GUDSTEIN (sp), BERGER, JAGODA/YAGODA-Plock,
Poland/Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY; Galveston, TX.
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY.
WEISS-Brooklyn, NY; NEIBERG-Brooklyn, NY; DEL PINO-Brooklyn, NY.
KATZ, GELFAND-Minsk, Belarus; Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

----- Original Message -----
From: Annemarie Jutel
My friend's great grandfather >from Bialystok was known to her as Lewis
Medovonik. "Lewis" is not in the given names database - any suggestions as
to what his birth name might have been?


Looking for Dvora GLASER #general

arie meir
 

Hi to all of you

I decided to give up. It is now more than fifteen years that I am looking for my
grandfather's daughter Dvora Glaser but with no response. It is now my last try
and here are the details:

My grandfather Chaim GLASER lived in Przemysl before the second world war. He
had a daughter called Dvora (Dora or Dova), who was born in 1927. The last time
my family heard >from them was in 1939.

Chaim Glaser was married to my grandmother Helena-Chaya in Vienna.

In the early twenties he got divorced, left Vienna and moved to Przemysl(Poland),
He got married a second time in the year 1926 to Rachella Stolzberg and had this
one daughter. In 1939 he was about 43 years old and she was 12 years old.

In case any one of the readers can help me finding what happened to them please
be so kind to inform me inform me. To your knowledge. The information in "Yad
Vashem" is just a guess and not based on any information .

Arieh Mayer
meir1935@netvision.net.IL
Haifa, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Dvora GLASER #general

arie meir
 

Hi to all of you

I decided to give up. It is now more than fifteen years that I am looking for my
grandfather's daughter Dvora Glaser but with no response. It is now my last try
and here are the details:

My grandfather Chaim GLASER lived in Przemysl before the second world war. He
had a daughter called Dvora (Dora or Dova), who was born in 1927. The last time
my family heard >from them was in 1939.

Chaim Glaser was married to my grandmother Helena-Chaya in Vienna.

In the early twenties he got divorced, left Vienna and moved to Przemysl(Poland),
He got married a second time in the year 1926 to Rachella Stolzberg and had this
one daughter. In 1939 he was about 43 years old and she was 12 years old.

In case any one of the readers can help me finding what happened to them please
be so kind to inform me inform me. To your knowledge. The information in "Yad
Vashem" is just a guess and not based on any information .

Arieh Mayer
meir1935@netvision.net.IL
Haifa, Israel


Re: The Free Genealogy Software PhpGedView #general

Yaacov Slizak <yslizak@...>
 

I've been using PhpGedView for a while and I am quite satisfied with it. It
offers reasonable levels of privacy protection, allowing to see >from nothing
to full records, depending on your authorization levels. I set my website
(http://family.slizak.com) up to allow only family members (username and
password granted) to see information on living people, while the rest of the
visitors can access only the public section, that is dead people only.

A word of caution, though: I don't recommend this a your main genealogical
software tool. This is a tool mainly for web publishing and collaboration,
and as such the information resides on a server which either you administer
yourself or you pay someone else to do it for you. It is *not* your typical
Windows environment, and it requires some knowledge of server administration.

My "modus operandi' is to export my database >from my main software tool to
format, and use it as the basis for my PHPGedView online portal.

Feel free to contact me privately for more information,

Yaacov Slizak
Ennis, Co.Clare,
Ireland

SLIZAK, SANDAL, FELDMAN, WOLFSON, ZYLBERKRANTZ, DOMB - Miedzyrzec/Lukow
(Pol) SPOSOB/SPOSEEP - Kurytnycja, Lyuboml (Ukr), Chelm, Dubenka (Pol), USA;
FARBER - Kiyev (Ukr), Argentina; GURFINKEL - Hrubieszow (Pol)
KLEINER/KLEIN - Hrubieszow, Chrzanow, Sieniawa (Pol), UK; PLOJT, PLOIT -
Vladimir Volynskiy, Ozdziutycze, Kovel (Ukr), Argentina; JAEGER, (Eastern
Galicia);

"Sharon Singer" <bathsheba@sympatico.ca> wrote

I am interested in this new software -- has anyone on this list tried it
yet? I am of course concerned about privacy issues with the information
uploaded.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Free Genealogy Software PhpGedView #general

Yaacov Slizak <yslizak@...>
 

I've been using PhpGedView for a while and I am quite satisfied with it. It
offers reasonable levels of privacy protection, allowing to see >from nothing
to full records, depending on your authorization levels. I set my website
(http://family.slizak.com) up to allow only family members (username and
password granted) to see information on living people, while the rest of the
visitors can access only the public section, that is dead people only.

A word of caution, though: I don't recommend this a your main genealogical
software tool. This is a tool mainly for web publishing and collaboration,
and as such the information resides on a server which either you administer
yourself or you pay someone else to do it for you. It is *not* your typical
Windows environment, and it requires some knowledge of server administration.

My "modus operandi' is to export my database >from my main software tool to
format, and use it as the basis for my PHPGedView online portal.

Feel free to contact me privately for more information,

Yaacov Slizak
Ennis, Co.Clare,
Ireland

SLIZAK, SANDAL, FELDMAN, WOLFSON, ZYLBERKRANTZ, DOMB - Miedzyrzec/Lukow
(Pol) SPOSOB/SPOSEEP - Kurytnycja, Lyuboml (Ukr), Chelm, Dubenka (Pol), USA;
FARBER - Kiyev (Ukr), Argentina; GURFINKEL - Hrubieszow (Pol)
KLEINER/KLEIN - Hrubieszow, Chrzanow, Sieniawa (Pol), UK; PLOJT, PLOIT -
Vladimir Volynskiy, Ozdziutycze, Kovel (Ukr), Argentina; JAEGER, (Eastern
Galicia);

"Sharon Singer" <bathsheba@sympatico.ca> wrote

I am interested in this new software -- has anyone on this list tried it
yet? I am of course concerned about privacy issues with the information
uploaded.


TEDESKO {was TEDESCO} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Charles Wade wrote: "I am attempting to discover the name (and possible time of
reference) of a chief rabbi named TEDESCO who was involved in a significant
Halachic controversy in the 19th century ......."

Many thanks to Evertjan Hannivoort, Nick Landau and Shlomith Toaff who added
some interesting data to this original query ie:
1 Chief Rabbi Raffael Natan TEDESCO of Trieste: [the 1790's]:
2 Giacomo TEDESCO born Venice ghetto 1799 - died Paris 1870.
3 Abram TEDESCO may have been on the Napoleon Sanhedrin (1806-07) as a
representative of the Adriatic region.
4 The composer CASTELNUOVO TEDESCO etc ....

My contribution is much more personal - by total coincidence, today I am
celebrating the 156th birthday of my gt-grandmother Betty {nee TEDESKO} WOTTITZ
born Pressburg, 23 June 1851, and I am sitting next to her lovely portrait.
Her father Leopold, born 15 March 1818 in Pressburg, was a leader of the Jewish
community in Pressburg, and a founder of the liberal community. You can see his
photograph in Hugo Gold's book on the Jews of Bratislava [same as Pressburg],
with my other gtgt grandfather Emanuel BIACH and other family members who were
eminent in this community. I have a complete TEDESKO family tree after Leopold
and knew/know personally many of the descendants who all moved to Vienna after
1848. Leopold is buried in Vienna in Doblinger Friedhof and so are many TEDESKO
descendants. The trouble is I have never got further back than 1818 as the very
early Pressburg records have been stolen, according to a reliable source.

However, here is an interesting fact. My grandmother's first cousin, Lilly nee
TEDESKO [Pressburg 10 Feb 1885 > Vienna till 1938> died England 25 Jan 1983]
always told me that we were related to the composer CASTELNUOVO TEDESCO. She
knew many early family links and her mind remained clear well into her 90s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Castelnuovo-Tedesco

I have no idea if this was hearsay or a known link. Now I am beginning to
wonder whether the Trieste rabbi was originally >from Bohemia or Moravia
[Habsburg territory] via Spain perhaps and could also be a family member?

It is the WOTTITZ family of Pressburg, that I have linked back to Isaac ALFASI
of Fez [1013] just last week. Betty TEDESKO married Gustav WOTTITZ born
Pressburg 1 May 1841 - they are my gt-grandparents. Gustav WOTTITZ's gtgt
grandfather Juda Melamed TRITSCH [born in ? abt 1750 - died Pressburg 1st
Nissan 1825] met Napoleon and pleaded successfully for a Yom Kippur holiday for
Jewish soldiers. This is well-documented in an article I found recently.

These interrelated BIACH TEDESKO TRITSCH WOTTITZ families probably arrived in
Pressburg in the mid-late 1700s >from Bohemia and Moravia, escaping >from the
Familianten Act which restricted marriage to the first-born son. The act was
not recognised in Pressburg, then in Hungary. I know personally some other
Jewish families >from Bohemia who went to Trieste.

Celia Male {U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TEDESKO {was TEDESCO} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Charles Wade wrote: "I am attempting to discover the name (and possible time of
reference) of a chief rabbi named TEDESCO who was involved in a significant
Halachic controversy in the 19th century ......."

Many thanks to Evertjan Hannivoort, Nick Landau and Shlomith Toaff who added
some interesting data to this original query ie:
1 Chief Rabbi Raffael Natan TEDESCO of Trieste: [the 1790's]:
2 Giacomo TEDESCO born Venice ghetto 1799 - died Paris 1870.
3 Abram TEDESCO may have been on the Napoleon Sanhedrin (1806-07) as a
representative of the Adriatic region.
4 The composer CASTELNUOVO TEDESCO etc ....

My contribution is much more personal - by total coincidence, today I am
celebrating the 156th birthday of my gt-grandmother Betty {nee TEDESKO} WOTTITZ
born Pressburg, 23 June 1851, and I am sitting next to her lovely portrait.
Her father Leopold, born 15 March 1818 in Pressburg, was a leader of the Jewish
community in Pressburg, and a founder of the liberal community. You can see his
photograph in Hugo Gold's book on the Jews of Bratislava [same as Pressburg],
with my other gtgt grandfather Emanuel BIACH and other family members who were
eminent in this community. I have a complete TEDESKO family tree after Leopold
and knew/know personally many of the descendants who all moved to Vienna after
1848. Leopold is buried in Vienna in Doblinger Friedhof and so are many TEDESKO
descendants. The trouble is I have never got further back than 1818 as the very
early Pressburg records have been stolen, according to a reliable source.

However, here is an interesting fact. My grandmother's first cousin, Lilly nee
TEDESKO [Pressburg 10 Feb 1885 > Vienna till 1938> died England 25 Jan 1983]
always told me that we were related to the composer CASTELNUOVO TEDESCO. She
knew many early family links and her mind remained clear well into her 90s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Castelnuovo-Tedesco

I have no idea if this was hearsay or a known link. Now I am beginning to
wonder whether the Trieste rabbi was originally >from Bohemia or Moravia
[Habsburg territory] via Spain perhaps and could also be a family member?

It is the WOTTITZ family of Pressburg, that I have linked back to Isaac ALFASI
of Fez [1013] just last week. Betty TEDESKO married Gustav WOTTITZ born
Pressburg 1 May 1841 - they are my gt-grandparents. Gustav WOTTITZ's gtgt
grandfather Juda Melamed TRITSCH [born in ? abt 1750 - died Pressburg 1st
Nissan 1825] met Napoleon and pleaded successfully for a Yom Kippur holiday for
Jewish soldiers. This is well-documented in an article I found recently.

These interrelated BIACH TEDESKO TRITSCH WOTTITZ families probably arrived in
Pressburg in the mid-late 1700s >from Bohemia and Moravia, escaping >from the
Familianten Act which restricted marriage to the first-born son. The act was
not recognised in Pressburg, then in Hungary. I know personally some other
Jewish families >from Bohemia who went to Trieste.

Celia Male {U.K.]


Prof. Mikhail Abramovitz BARG 1915-1991 #general

Simon Barak
 

I would be grateful to get any information on the bio of Prof. Mikhail
Abramovitz BARG 1915-1991. Prof Barg was the chief research associate of
the Institute of World History in the USSR Academy of Sciences. He began
his studies as a specialist in English History (first thesis in 1947 was
on the Doomsday Book) gradually movig to philosophical reflections and
becaming a World famous theorist of historical science. He was also a
member of the Royal Historical Association in the UK.

Dr Shimon Barak,
Tel Aviv, Israel.
Researching the following surnames:
BARG, BARK, BARCK, BERG (Anywhere but especially Odessa and Berezovka
(Ukraine) and Argentina - Please visit our Homepage at
www.geocities.com/bargfamily/SILBERSTEIN
MAURER, NEUMANN, STREITFELD, HITZIG (Drohobycz, Boryslaw and Lwow)
TACHMAN, TAJMAN, TAKHMAN, TOKER, RASNOSCHICH (Chisinau, Argentina)
HOLZMANN (Plock, Plonsk, Przasnysz, Poland and Israel)(Warsaw and Tel Aviv)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Prof. Mikhail Abramovitz BARG 1915-1991 #general

Simon Barak
 

I would be grateful to get any information on the bio of Prof. Mikhail
Abramovitz BARG 1915-1991. Prof Barg was the chief research associate of
the Institute of World History in the USSR Academy of Sciences. He began
his studies as a specialist in English History (first thesis in 1947 was
on the Doomsday Book) gradually movig to philosophical reflections and
becaming a World famous theorist of historical science. He was also a
member of the Royal Historical Association in the UK.

Dr Shimon Barak,
Tel Aviv, Israel.
Researching the following surnames:
BARG, BARK, BARCK, BERG (Anywhere but especially Odessa and Berezovka
(Ukraine) and Argentina - Please visit our Homepage at
www.geocities.com/bargfamily/SILBERSTEIN
MAURER, NEUMANN, STREITFELD, HITZIG (Drohobycz, Boryslaw and Lwow)
TACHMAN, TAJMAN, TAKHMAN, TOKER, RASNOSCHICH (Chisinau, Argentina)
HOLZMANN (Plock, Plonsk, Przasnysz, Poland and Israel)(Warsaw and Tel Aviv)


SS Weser or Wesser #general

Simon Barak
 

I am presenting the forum with a mistery worthy of Sherlock Holmes.
As you most probably know the first settlers of Moises Ville, the
agricultural colony situated in the North of the Province of Santa Fe,
Argentina 616 km. >from Buenos Aires, were a group of Russian Jewish
colonists arriving in August 1889 aboard the SS Wesser >from
Kamenetz-Podolsk, Ukraine. Moises Ville is regarded as the first
agricultural Jewish colony in South America and these 130 families (815
individuals) are the Argentinean equivalent to the Mayflower passengers.
They arrived to Buenos Aires aboard the steamship Weser on the 16th of
August, 1889.
According to the data in the Internet
(http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/ships.htm
http://www.geocities.com/mppraetorius/main-com1.htm)
there were at least 4 or maybe 5 ships named Wesser or Weser
(1) a.k.a. Peter Goddefroy was built in 1851 and lost in 1858
(stranded on the west coast of Ireland)
(2) was built in 1867 and served the Southampton-New York line
from 1/6/1867 until 13/6/1895 when she was transferred to the Bremen -
S.America service for two round voyages and later scrapped in 1896.
(3) (a.k.a. Vancouver Island) was built only in 1928
(4)was launched on 4/12/1858, but had to put back to Cork for
repairs after being damaged by heavy seas. She sailed >from Cork on 6th
March 1859 and arrived in New York on 18th March. She started her third
and last Bremen - Southampton - New York voyage on 1st July 1859, and
became a French Naval Transport later the same year. On 16/1/1861 she
was wrecked 60 miles >from Poulo Condor, Cochin China.
So none of the ships could make the voyage!!
Any solutions?
Dr Shimon Barak
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SS Weser or Wesser #general

Simon Barak
 

I am presenting the forum with a mistery worthy of Sherlock Holmes.
As you most probably know the first settlers of Moises Ville, the
agricultural colony situated in the North of the Province of Santa Fe,
Argentina 616 km. >from Buenos Aires, were a group of Russian Jewish
colonists arriving in August 1889 aboard the SS Wesser >from
Kamenetz-Podolsk, Ukraine. Moises Ville is regarded as the first
agricultural Jewish colony in South America and these 130 families (815
individuals) are the Argentinean equivalent to the Mayflower passengers.
They arrived to Buenos Aires aboard the steamship Weser on the 16th of
August, 1889.
According to the data in the Internet
(http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/ships.htm
http://www.geocities.com/mppraetorius/main-com1.htm)
there were at least 4 or maybe 5 ships named Wesser or Weser
(1) a.k.a. Peter Goddefroy was built in 1851 and lost in 1858
(stranded on the west coast of Ireland)
(2) was built in 1867 and served the Southampton-New York line
from 1/6/1867 until 13/6/1895 when she was transferred to the Bremen -
S.America service for two round voyages and later scrapped in 1896.
(3) (a.k.a. Vancouver Island) was built only in 1928
(4)was launched on 4/12/1858, but had to put back to Cork for
repairs after being damaged by heavy seas. She sailed >from Cork on 6th
March 1859 and arrived in New York on 18th March. She started her third
and last Bremen - Southampton - New York voyage on 1st July 1859, and
became a French Naval Transport later the same year. On 16/1/1861 she
was wrecked 60 miles >from Poulo Condor, Cochin China.
So none of the ships could make the voyage!!
Any solutions?
Dr Shimon Barak
Israel


Alleged Killing of Bohemian Jewish Businessmen #general

Paul King <samorai@...>
 

Roger Adler seeks (22 June 2007), concerning "Jewish businessmen murdered in
Bohemia" in 1847, a list of victims. I am not aware of multiple murders
taking place and it would be helpful if a source were supplied. I do know
that Jewish factories were attacked by mobs in 1844 and again in the
Revolution of 1848 - this is documented, but there is no record of Jewish
businessmen being killed. It surely would have been noted in the writings of
William O. McCagg who stresses Judeophobia in Bohemia at this time or by
Hillel Kieval who has written at length on a blood libel case.

Despite rising Czech nationalism at midcentury, Jews became prominent
members of the Prague Chamber of Commerce in the 1850s and possibly in the
following decade.

respectfully,

Paul King
Jerusalem


DURAN- MONTEFIORE: N. Africa - London - Kingston, Jamaica link established, 1849. #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I thought I had finished with this saga but some extra *very important* items
have arisen. Firstly, congratulations to Mathilde Tagger for having found
CORCOS-DURAN family links through this correspondence! Victor BENSILUM has also
found Angela Hurst to be his third-cousin and Sidney CORCOS has many more
additions for his great family tree.

The trouble is that these early Sephardic inhabitants of England are often
mistranscribed in the censuses so unless you use *tactics*, you will not find
them. Look what I found by fiddling around in the 1841 census of England:
Name: Bamp DURAK [clearly legible to me as Baruch DURAN] Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1799 born: this is unclear.
Civil parish: St Botolph Aldersgate; Occupation: traveller

Household Members: Simta [sic] should be Simha 34; Abraham 12; Isaac 12;
Rosella [Rosetta?] 8; Hannah 6; Miriam 4; Moses 2

Abraham and Isaac DURAN emigrated to the USA in the 1850s and Abraham married
Rebecca MONTEFIORE on 21st Oct 1849, before emigrating. I just heard about the
MONTEFIORE link >from their gtgt grandson Sidney CORCOS, who allowed me to
quote. Sidney entered the loop in Israel. Isaac and descendants stayed in the
USA. Sidney has entered a MONTEFIORE tree on the FTJP, where you can see many
links.

However as MONTEFIORE, this branch was not to be found in the England 1841 and
1851 censuses, although we know they were there. As this link is fascinating,
I was determined to locate them and find out more. Rebecca DURAN's father was
named Abraham {deceased} on the fascsimile of the wedding certificate. Baruch
DURAN, her father-in-law, was a spice dealer. I have found Baruch - see above.

Who were Rebecca DURAN's MONTEFIORE family? I now know they were a very
important family in Sephardic Judaism in London. Abraham was a cousin of the
very famous Sir Moses MONTEFIORE. In the 1841 census, Abraham MONTEFIORE is
indexed as *MONTIFORE*, lives in Stepney, and his profession is listed as
"keeper of the grounds" and in the margin is written: "Spanish and Portuguese
Burial Ground". And here is the huge family:

Abraham MONTEFIORE 52; Stella 37 [fb=foreign born]; Abigail 19 fb; Isaac 16 fb;
David 14 fb; Esther 12 fb; Rebecca 10; Flora 6; Rachael 3; Evelina 1.

In 1851, I found them eventually listed as *MONTEFURE* and here we read that
Rebecca's mother Stella [now a widow] was born in Kingston, Jamaica! The oldest
son David [born 1828] is born in Plymouth, Devon! Perhaps on the way back from
Kingston? Another sea-faring Sephardic family to rival the DURAN?

Sidney Corcos tell us on the FTJP that Stella alias Estrella's parents were
Isaac HATCHWELL and Abigail BENHAM - but Sidney has no place of birth for
Stella. What were these names originally - ben HAIM perhaps and HATCHWELL? -
Any guesses >from our Genners? There were/are still Jewish HATCHWELL in Jamaica
in World War II see: http://jamaicanfamilysearch.com/Samples/milww1-2.htm

and these links: http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/hn.shtml
and Mauricio TOLEDANO HATCHWELL - Spanish Jewish leader
http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/JARQUIN1.ART
http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/06/madrid-bombings-redux-what-really.html

This is a large new chapter in the saga and I await HATCHWELL input >from other
Genners; I have already found a HATCHWELL/N. Africa link in the UK censuses.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: Key names so far on these trees are: BENHAM; BENSILUM; CORCOS;
de COSTA; DURAN/DURAND; HATCHWELL, OHAYON, LEVY; de MEDINA; MOCATTA;
MONTEFIORE, RACAH, etc etc

This amazing Sephardic family tree now has very early established links to
Spain; Majorca; N. Africa; Livorno; Gibraltar; Malta; Kingston, Jamaica;
London; USA etc etc