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Re: KNOWLES Collection - New database of Jews in UK c.1700-c1900 #unitedkingdom

Sherry Landa <sherry@...>
 

Thank you Laurence, for bringing this to our attention.

A slight caveat. I downloaded this last night and have already identified
some errors in it. For example, if you open the file and search for Leeds,
you will see entries referring to Leeds, Kent. When checking these I have
found that, at least some of them, are actually Leeds, Yorks.

I don't know the background to the collection but someone was clearly not
totally au fait with British geography and presumably looked Leeds up and
saw there is one in Kent. Other errors include the old favourite of LDS
conventions for counties ie Lincoln for Lincs and Huntingdon for Hunts
although small these may lead novices to confusion.

I downloaded the gedcom and lost any specific sources. All I get in the
sources is "Mordy Collection". So, it is impossible to independently verify
the data as you have no idea where to look for it.

I don't wish to take anything away, this is a very useful tool. I just want
people to remember that, as with all works of this kind, there will be
errors and vigilance is required.

Best wishes
Sherry Landa (in Salford, Lancs)


The Knowles Collection is a database of over 10,000 records of Jews in the
UK c.1700-c.1900 based significantly on the Mordy Collection. The records
have been grouped into families of various sizes and numbers of generations.
It is available as a Gedcom or PAF file which can be downloaded into most
family tree software programs.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: KNOWLES Collection - New database of Jews in UK c.1700-c1900 #unitedkingdom

Sherry Landa <sherry@...>
 

Thank you Laurence, for bringing this to our attention.

A slight caveat. I downloaded this last night and have already identified
some errors in it. For example, if you open the file and search for Leeds,
you will see entries referring to Leeds, Kent. When checking these I have
found that, at least some of them, are actually Leeds, Yorks.

I don't know the background to the collection but someone was clearly not
totally au fait with British geography and presumably looked Leeds up and
saw there is one in Kent. Other errors include the old favourite of LDS
conventions for counties ie Lincoln for Lincs and Huntingdon for Hunts
although small these may lead novices to confusion.

I downloaded the gedcom and lost any specific sources. All I get in the
sources is "Mordy Collection". So, it is impossible to independently verify
the data as you have no idea where to look for it.

I don't wish to take anything away, this is a very useful tool. I just want
people to remember that, as with all works of this kind, there will be
errors and vigilance is required.

Best wishes
Sherry Landa (in Salford, Lancs)


The Knowles Collection is a database of over 10,000 records of Jews in the
UK c.1700-c.1900 based significantly on the Mordy Collection. The records
have been grouped into families of various sizes and numbers of generations.
It is available as a Gedcom or PAF file which can be downloaded into most
family tree software programs.


Re: AGI/AZI/AJI family #sephardic

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Dear Betty,

You wrote:

I am researching AGI/AZI/AJI of Ottoman Empire origin (Salonica, Smyrna..)
he had a sister who might have married a Sadi in England.

Here are some ideas:

1. The book: The Jewish Community of Salonika-1943, by Aure Recanati
(Jerusalem, Erez, 2000), is the index (per family units) of property
declarations made by Salonica Jews in 1943, as ordered by the Nazis. Only a
third of the Jewish population of the city is indexed- the rest of the
documentation is still in the basements of Russian archives.
No AJI/AGI is registered there.

2. The book of Joseph Nehama: L'Histoire de Juifs de Salonique". Salonique,
1936-1978. 7v. The book annotated index is found at:
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/nehama.html

3. You can contact those researching AGI/AJI and STRUMZA/STROUMZA families
in the JewishGen Family Finder at: www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

4. Testimony Pages on the Yad Vashem website have to be checked. Go to:
http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome
Their search engine will :take care" of the various spellings,

5. You also try the Istanbul Project at:
http://www.sephardiccouncil.org/istanbul/ as the surname AGI was also
found there.

6. In Turkey again, the surname AJI is included in "List of 7,300 Names of
Jewish Brides and Grooms who Married in Izmir between the years 1883-1901 &
1918-1933" issued by Dov Cohen. Under AJI there are 2 brides as well as 2
grooms. You can contact Dov at: dkcohen@bezeqint.net

Hoping all this will help,

Shalom,

Mathilde Tagger
Sephardic SIG Coordinator
Israel Genealogical Society


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: AGI/AZI/AJI family #sephardic

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Dear Betty,

You wrote:

I am researching AGI/AZI/AJI of Ottoman Empire origin (Salonica, Smyrna..)
he had a sister who might have married a Sadi in England.

Here are some ideas:

1. The book: The Jewish Community of Salonika-1943, by Aure Recanati
(Jerusalem, Erez, 2000), is the index (per family units) of property
declarations made by Salonica Jews in 1943, as ordered by the Nazis. Only a
third of the Jewish population of the city is indexed- the rest of the
documentation is still in the basements of Russian archives.
No AJI/AGI is registered there.

2. The book of Joseph Nehama: L'Histoire de Juifs de Salonique". Salonique,
1936-1978. 7v. The book annotated index is found at:
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/nehama.html

3. You can contact those researching AGI/AJI and STRUMZA/STROUMZA families
in the JewishGen Family Finder at: www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

4. Testimony Pages on the Yad Vashem website have to be checked. Go to:
http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome
Their search engine will :take care" of the various spellings,

5. You also try the Istanbul Project at:
http://www.sephardiccouncil.org/istanbul/ as the surname AGI was also
found there.

6. In Turkey again, the surname AJI is included in "List of 7,300 Names of
Jewish Brides and Grooms who Married in Izmir between the years 1883-1901 &
1918-1933" issued by Dov Cohen. Under AJI there are 2 brides as well as 2
grooms. You can contact Dov at: dkcohen@bezeqint.net

Hoping all this will help,

Shalom,

Mathilde Tagger
Sephardic SIG Coordinator
Israel Genealogical Society


Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo Met #sephardic

"מוריסו טייב <morissot@...>
 

Hi,

I am looking for siblings of Rabbi hai Taieb Lo Met. Our grand mother
told us that her father was a direct descendant of Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo
Met. He was called Haim El Mezziane Taieb, he died in Tunis, Tunisia
at the age of 42 (so he was born circa 1880).

Thank you in advance if you now anyone that built a genealogical tree
of Rabbi Hai Taieb.

Maurice (Morisso) Taieb

Bonjour,

Je recherche les descendants de Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo Met. Notre grand
mere nous disait que son pere etait un descendant direct de Rabbi Hai
Taieb Lo Met. Il s'appellait Haim El Mezziane (Le beau) Taieb, decede
a Tunis, Tunisie a l'age de 42 ans (donc ne vers 1880).

Merci de nous indiquer si quelqu'un a construit un arbre genealogique
du Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo Met.

Maurice (Morisso) Taieb


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo Met #sephardic

"מוריסו טייב <morissot@...>
 

Hi,

I am looking for siblings of Rabbi hai Taieb Lo Met. Our grand mother
told us that her father was a direct descendant of Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo
Met. He was called Haim El Mezziane Taieb, he died in Tunis, Tunisia
at the age of 42 (so he was born circa 1880).

Thank you in advance if you now anyone that built a genealogical tree
of Rabbi Hai Taieb.

Maurice (Morisso) Taieb

Bonjour,

Je recherche les descendants de Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo Met. Notre grand
mere nous disait que son pere etait un descendant direct de Rabbi Hai
Taieb Lo Met. Il s'appellait Haim El Mezziane (Le beau) Taieb, decede
a Tunis, Tunisie a l'age de 42 ans (donc ne vers 1880).

Merci de nous indiquer si quelqu'un a construit un arbre genealogique
du Rabbi Hai Taieb Lo Met.

Maurice (Morisso) Taieb


ZREHEN/ZRIHEN #sephardic

RENEEP8546@...
 

Dear Genners,

In 1924, a David S. ZREHEN , 30 years of age, >from Marrakech, was
travelling with my grandfather on business.

Does anyone recognize this name or know of the ZREHEN family >from
Marrakech? I'm not sure if this was the correct spelling
since I have seen it more often as ZRIHEN.I have also seen a message
from a Dan Zrihen and will be contacting him.
Thank you for your help.

Cordially,
Renee Payne
Washington, DC


Searching for: BENHAIM Marakech
SERFATY Marrakech
WEISS Ungvar
JACOBOWITZ Sanok


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim ZREHEN/ZRIHEN #sephardic

RENEEP8546@...
 

Dear Genners,

In 1924, a David S. ZREHEN , 30 years of age, >from Marrakech, was
travelling with my grandfather on business.

Does anyone recognize this name or know of the ZREHEN family >from
Marrakech? I'm not sure if this was the correct spelling
since I have seen it more often as ZRIHEN.I have also seen a message
from a Dan Zrihen and will be contacting him.
Thank you for your help.

Cordially,
Renee Payne
Washington, DC


Searching for: BENHAIM Marakech
SERFATY Marrakech
WEISS Ungvar
JACOBOWITZ Sanok


Re: Dr. Karel GOLDMANN, Juedisch Kultusgemeinde Prag, WW II #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Henry Schwab writes: "as a longtime researcher and collector of "Postal
History of the Holocaust" I have been unable to find information about this
person. Among the original material which I have gathered, as well as copies
obtained >from fellow collectors, I have mail addressed to Dr. GOLDMANN and mail
originating >from him to Theresienstadt - Birkenau - Schwarzheide - KG Prag,
Abteilung fuer Soziale Fuersorge (meal program for children).

I am puzzled that at this date where information is so plentiful this data
is either not available, or being withheld. I would be appreciative of any
help."

Henry asks for a private reply, but I too am puzzled why this should be so as
this will perpetuate the mystery and the subject appears to be of general
interest. As I have some ideas about it, I am writing to the group. Why should
anyone withhold information? Was this a famous person or just someone whose
name appears on envelopes? Are there many letters with this name? Could he be
someone like the members of the Judenrat, Vienna [when the IKG, Vienna was
abolished and a Judenrat was put in its place]. There are many letters
addressed to Erich and Grethe BREUER at the Seitenstettengasse, Wien and they
keep appearing on a well-known internet auction site. They sent parcels [no
doubt with their name on them as *senders*] with soap, oats etc to
Theresienstadt.

The BREUER also disappeared >from view and I have no idea who they were and what
happened to them. If they survived, I suspect they might have changed their
names and melted into the background because they would have been reviled by
many. Perhaps Dr Karel GOLDMANN in this category and this is what happened in
Prague. Google "Judenrat, Prague" and many philatelic items appear.

I have written about the Vienna letters before - please search the message
archives with "BREUER".

I can see a Karel GOLDMANN active in Catholic circles in the Czech Republic - I
have checked and there are many Christian GOLDMANN families in Bohemia and
Austria too. So now we have another possibility. Perhaps Karel was not a real
person [just a name on an envelope to give hope!] or perhaps he was a stooge.

Here is a Christian? GOLDMANN [found on the internet] who might fit the bill:
Karl GOLDMANN Birth: 1880 Austria - Marriages 1909: Juliane STEINDL
Of Weyer Land, Kuepfern, Oberoesterreich, Austria

I also checked this site: http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/
and there is only one possible candidate actually >from Prague:

Karl GOLDMANN born 1890 - son of Karl - could his father be Jewish and his
mother Catholic? No idea, but a possibility: http://tinyurl.com/2okjfa
The parents apparently married in a church. Father Karl was a Handschuhmacher?
- glovemaker - as far as I can read. Did this Karl step into the Prague
Judenrat to save his family?

The answer must lie in Prague in the Jewish Museum or in the Holocaust Museum
in Washington. It is hard to imagine that there are no extant documents on the
Prague Judenrat. So here are a few ideas for us all to work on.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Dr. Karel GOLDMANN, Juedisch Kultusgemeinde Prag, WW II #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Henry Schwab writes: "as a longtime researcher and collector of "Postal
History of the Holocaust" I have been unable to find information about this
person. Among the original material which I have gathered, as well as copies
obtained >from fellow collectors, I have mail addressed to Dr. GOLDMANN and mail
originating >from him to Theresienstadt - Birkenau - Schwarzheide - KG Prag,
Abteilung fuer Soziale Fuersorge (meal program for children).

I am puzzled that at this date where information is so plentiful this data
is either not available, or being withheld. I would be appreciative of any
help."

Henry asks for a private reply, but I too am puzzled why this should be so as
this will perpetuate the mystery and the subject appears to be of general
interest. As I have some ideas about it, I am writing to the group. Why should
anyone withhold information? Was this a famous person or just someone whose
name appears on envelopes? Are there many letters with this name? Could he be
someone like the members of the Judenrat, Vienna [when the IKG, Vienna was
abolished and a Judenrat was put in its place]. There are many letters
addressed to Erich and Grethe BREUER at the Seitenstettengasse, Wien and they
keep appearing on a well-known internet auction site. They sent parcels [no
doubt with their name on them as *senders*] with soap, oats etc to
Theresienstadt.

The BREUER also disappeared >from view and I have no idea who they were and what
happened to them. If they survived, I suspect they might have changed their
names and melted into the background because they would have been reviled by
many. Perhaps Dr Karel GOLDMANN in this category and this is what happened in
Prague. Google "Judenrat, Prague" and many philatelic items appear.

I have written about the Vienna letters before - please search the message
archives with "BREUER".

I can see a Karel GOLDMANN active in Catholic circles in the Czech Republic - I
have checked and there are many Christian GOLDMANN families in Bohemia and
Austria too. So now we have another possibility. Perhaps Karel was not a real
person [just a name on an envelope to give hope!] or perhaps he was a stooge.

Here is a Christian? GOLDMANN [found on the internet] who might fit the bill:
Karl GOLDMANN Birth: 1880 Austria - Marriages 1909: Juliane STEINDL
Of Weyer Land, Kuepfern, Oberoesterreich, Austria

I also checked this site: http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/
and there is only one possible candidate actually >from Prague:

Karl GOLDMANN born 1890 - son of Karl - could his father be Jewish and his
mother Catholic? No idea, but a possibility: http://tinyurl.com/2okjfa
The parents apparently married in a church. Father Karl was a Handschuhmacher?
- glovemaker - as far as I can read. Did this Karl step into the Prague
Judenrat to save his family?

The answer must lie in Prague in the Jewish Museum or in the Holocaust Museum
in Washington. It is hard to imagine that there are no extant documents on the
Prague Judenrat. So here are a few ideas for us all to work on.

Celia Male [U.K.]


KNOWLES Collection - New database of Jews in UK c.1700-c1900 #unitedkingdom

Laurence Harris <laurence@...>
 

The Knowles Collection is a database of over 10,000 records of Jews in the
UK c.1700-c.1900 based significantly on the Mordy Collection. The records
have been grouped into families of various sizes and numbers of generations.
It is available as a Gedcom or PAF file which can be downloaded into most
family tree software programs.

There is a new and very interesting webpage for Jewish Genealogy located on
the Family Search website at
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp?page=home/welcome/site_resources
.asp%3FwhichResourcePage=Jewish
This web page has more information about the Knowles Collection, links to
access the Knowles Collection database, plus many other useful links.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom KNOWLES Collection - New database of Jews in UK c.1700-c1900 #unitedkingdom

Laurence Harris <laurence@...>
 

The Knowles Collection is a database of over 10,000 records of Jews in the
UK c.1700-c.1900 based significantly on the Mordy Collection. The records
have been grouped into families of various sizes and numbers of generations.
It is available as a Gedcom or PAF file which can be downloaded into most
family tree software programs.

There is a new and very interesting webpage for Jewish Genealogy located on
the Family Search website at
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp?page=home/welcome/site_resources
.asp%3FwhichResourcePage=Jewish
This web page has more information about the Knowles Collection, links to
access the Knowles Collection database, plus many other useful links.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England


Naturalization Certificate-Great-Grandfather Adolph Greenberg-Have Questions About Notations #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello All

I was just going over some of my records and noticed something odd. I have a copy
of my great-grandfather Adolph GREENBERG's Naturalization Certificate and on the
top is typed "Issued In Lieu Of Certificate 429825", and i would love to know what
this refers to. My great-grandfather came in through ellis island and remained in
New York(Manhattan) until 1914-1915, and then moved to Connecticut.

I have ordered his naturalization papers, but neither the declaration or petition
bears that number. Also on the back of the copy is a stamp mark. In it is my
great-grandmothers signature of Minnie Greenberg and a date of October 1920. Some
of the writing is worn away, but it states something like this"Approved on October
18, 1920 by the board of selectman in the town of Bridgeport which is the town that
the family moved to after 1914-1915.

Any and all advice as to these notation would be very helpful.

Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization Certificate-Great-Grandfather Adolph Greenberg-Have Questions About Notations #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello All

I was just going over some of my records and noticed something odd. I have a copy
of my great-grandfather Adolph GREENBERG's Naturalization Certificate and on the
top is typed "Issued In Lieu Of Certificate 429825", and i would love to know what
this refers to. My great-grandfather came in through ellis island and remained in
New York(Manhattan) until 1914-1915, and then moved to Connecticut.

I have ordered his naturalization papers, but neither the declaration or petition
bears that number. Also on the back of the copy is a stamp mark. In it is my
great-grandmothers signature of Minnie Greenberg and a date of October 1920. Some
of the writing is worn away, but it states something like this"Approved on October
18, 1920 by the board of selectman in the town of Bridgeport which is the town that
the family moved to after 1914-1915.

Any and all advice as to these notation would be very helpful.

Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@aol.com


Using Google or Yahoo maps to display genealogical facts #general

Martin Fischer
 

Dear SIGers,

Using U.S. census data, old St. Louis city directories, Google maps and a beta site
called Map Builder, I have created a special new page on my personal family history
Web site showing where my ancestors and related families lived in St. Louis at
different times in the past >from 1867 to 1930. This page >from my site (listed
below) has links to a series of maps that offer a different way of looking at the
genealogy of several related families, all of whom settled in St. Louis, Missouri,
USA, as early as the 1860s.

I am sharing this with our fellow JewishGen SIGers merely to offer an example of
something new that you might want to consider adding to your own personal genealogy
Web sites. I have no personal or financial interest in Google, Yahoo or Map
Builder, all of which are free to use to create such maps.

The Map Builder site is "beta," so it is still under development and has some bugs.
But I used it because I do not know html or java and it is fairly user-friendly
for a non-programmer.

In the process of compiling the information for this project, I have made some
interesting discoveries, such as the geographic clustering of some of these related
families in small areas of the city and relocation of these clusters over time.

Because most of my St. Louis ancestors lived in what were predominantly Jewish
neighborhoods, looking through this series of maps chronologically shows roughly
how the major area of Jewish settlement in St. Louis shifted geographically over
time, moving westard through north St. Louis and eventually beginning to populate
the nearby suburbs of University City and Clayton by 1930.

Clicking on one of the "my maps" links on this page will open a separate window
showing a map with locations listed to the right of the map. Clicking on either
the locator symbols on the map, or on the items in the location list, will display
information balloons containing facts about my ancestors, such as where they lived
and with whom, and how they were employed.

Like other Google maps, these can be magnified or shifted using the toolbar
in the upper left of each map.

Here is the link:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/St.%20Louis%20Maps.htm

Such maps certainly won't replace family trees, pedigree charts and family group
sheets, but I think they can be useful supplements to the traditional forms of
displaying genealogical information.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA
-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/

MODERATOR NOTE: We reiterate the poster's statement: that Map builder is still
under development and may have bugs. Posting of this is information is not an
endorsement by JewishGen.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Using Google or Yahoo maps to display genealogical facts #general

Martin Fischer
 

Dear SIGers,

Using U.S. census data, old St. Louis city directories, Google maps and a beta site
called Map Builder, I have created a special new page on my personal family history
Web site showing where my ancestors and related families lived in St. Louis at
different times in the past >from 1867 to 1930. This page >from my site (listed
below) has links to a series of maps that offer a different way of looking at the
genealogy of several related families, all of whom settled in St. Louis, Missouri,
USA, as early as the 1860s.

I am sharing this with our fellow JewishGen SIGers merely to offer an example of
something new that you might want to consider adding to your own personal genealogy
Web sites. I have no personal or financial interest in Google, Yahoo or Map
Builder, all of which are free to use to create such maps.

The Map Builder site is "beta," so it is still under development and has some bugs.
But I used it because I do not know html or java and it is fairly user-friendly
for a non-programmer.

In the process of compiling the information for this project, I have made some
interesting discoveries, such as the geographic clustering of some of these related
families in small areas of the city and relocation of these clusters over time.

Because most of my St. Louis ancestors lived in what were predominantly Jewish
neighborhoods, looking through this series of maps chronologically shows roughly
how the major area of Jewish settlement in St. Louis shifted geographically over
time, moving westard through north St. Louis and eventually beginning to populate
the nearby suburbs of University City and Clayton by 1930.

Clicking on one of the "my maps" links on this page will open a separate window
showing a map with locations listed to the right of the map. Clicking on either
the locator symbols on the map, or on the items in the location list, will display
information balloons containing facts about my ancestors, such as where they lived
and with whom, and how they were employed.

Like other Google maps, these can be magnified or shifted using the toolbar
in the upper left of each map.

Here is the link:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/St.%20Louis%20Maps.htm

Such maps certainly won't replace family trees, pedigree charts and family group
sheets, but I think they can be useful supplements to the traditional forms of
displaying genealogical information.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA
-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/

MODERATOR NOTE: We reiterate the poster's statement: that Map builder is still
under development and may have bugs. Posting of this is information is not an
endorsement by JewishGen.


information on FROMMER/FROMER #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

My great-grandmother, Minnie FARBER MOLDAWSKY DOB 1879 in or around Zhitomir, came
to the US to join her husband (my g-gfather) Simcha (Sam) MOLDAWSKY in 1910. We
have their ship manifests, we have them on the census, we know a lot about them and
their children, Jack, May, Ethel and Barnett. Minnie died in 1944. In 1930
following Sam's death, she was living with her adult children in Brooklyn. This is
corroborated by the 1930 census. At some point between Sam's death and her own,
she married a man whose last name was FROMMER or FROMER. We have Minnie's death
certificate on which her daughter, Ethel, and son-in-law gave her husband's name as
Sam Fromer. Ethel really disliked this second husband and up to the time of her
death at 101 a few years ago refused to talk about him or give any additional
information. We have searched on-line and in the New York City archives on Chambers
St. We have been unable to find any marriage certificate or license for them under
any of the many spellings we tried for Moldawsky. We thought we had a death
certificate for Sam Frommer, wife Minnie in 1938 in the Bronx, but since there is
a Sam Frommer on the 1930 census living with his wife of 8 years, Minnie, and their
young child, so this is clearly not the Sam Fromer I am looking for. I am most
likely looking for someone who was still alive in 1944 (my mother remembers
visiting Minnie sometime between 1940 and 1944 and a man who was her husband),
although Minnie was not living with him at the time of her death, but by that time
was living with her daughter and son-in-law, Ethel and Ben NEEDLEMAN/NUDELMAN.

Any help would be appreciated. Please respond privately.

Janette Silverman
Phoenix AZ & Santa Fe, NM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen information on FROMMER/FROMER #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

My great-grandmother, Minnie FARBER MOLDAWSKY DOB 1879 in or around Zhitomir, came
to the US to join her husband (my g-gfather) Simcha (Sam) MOLDAWSKY in 1910. We
have their ship manifests, we have them on the census, we know a lot about them and
their children, Jack, May, Ethel and Barnett. Minnie died in 1944. In 1930
following Sam's death, she was living with her adult children in Brooklyn. This is
corroborated by the 1930 census. At some point between Sam's death and her own,
she married a man whose last name was FROMMER or FROMER. We have Minnie's death
certificate on which her daughter, Ethel, and son-in-law gave her husband's name as
Sam Fromer. Ethel really disliked this second husband and up to the time of her
death at 101 a few years ago refused to talk about him or give any additional
information. We have searched on-line and in the New York City archives on Chambers
St. We have been unable to find any marriage certificate or license for them under
any of the many spellings we tried for Moldawsky. We thought we had a death
certificate for Sam Frommer, wife Minnie in 1938 in the Bronx, but since there is
a Sam Frommer on the 1930 census living with his wife of 8 years, Minnie, and their
young child, so this is clearly not the Sam Fromer I am looking for. I am most
likely looking for someone who was still alive in 1944 (my mother remembers
visiting Minnie sometime between 1940 and 1944 and a man who was her husband),
although Minnie was not living with him at the time of her death, but by that time
was living with her daughter and son-in-law, Ethel and Ben NEEDLEMAN/NUDELMAN.

Any help would be appreciated. Please respond privately.

Janette Silverman
Phoenix AZ & Santa Fe, NM


Town of Konskie, Poland #general

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Does any one have a street map of the town of Konskie, Poland or where I can
obtain such a map.

Please send youer response to Irvela@aol.com.

Thanks.

Irv Skorka


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town of Konskie, Poland #general

irvskorka1@...
 

Does any one have a street map of the town of Konskie, Poland or where I can
obtain such a map.

Please send youer response to Irvela@aol.com.

Thanks.

Irv Skorka