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DNA Testing RE: Red heads from Belarus #belarus

Elise
 

Dave Lewak wrote:
I had the Y-DNA test done as well, I'm an R1b1c. I
don't have red hair, mine is brown, but I do have a
dark red beard.

And then Larry Gaum asked:
Would you be kind enough to give me details as to were the test is
available?

My response:

Information about genealogical DNA testing and its application to Jewish
genealogy is available on JewishGen's Genealogy by Genetics web page,
http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

As a reminder, a Belarus SIG DNA project is also in the works. Stay tuned,
details will be available soon!

In the meantime, allow me to clarify that genealogical DNA testing won't
provide information about hair color. Without going into too much
scientific detail, let me give a very brief explanation:

- Everyone has 23 pair of chromosomes
- One pair of chromosomes are the gender chromosomes, X and Y
- The other 22 pair are called autosomes, and they determine what we look
like
- In addition to chromosomes, we also have Mitochondrial DNA
- Genealogical DNA testing uses the Y chromosome and mitochondria, not the
autosomes

Additional scientific detail is available in the FAQs at the bottom of
JewishGen's Genealogy by Genetics web page. The URL again is
http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

Anyone interested in detailed discussions about genealogical DNA testing is
encouraged to join JewishGen's DNA Testing mailing list. To join, please
visit http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager

Sincerely,
Elise Friedman
Coordinator, JewishGen DNA Projects


Belarus SIG #Belarus DNA Testing RE: Red heads from Belarus #belarus

Elise
 

Dave Lewak wrote:
I had the Y-DNA test done as well, I'm an R1b1c. I
don't have red hair, mine is brown, but I do have a
dark red beard.

And then Larry Gaum asked:
Would you be kind enough to give me details as to were the test is
available?

My response:

Information about genealogical DNA testing and its application to Jewish
genealogy is available on JewishGen's Genealogy by Genetics web page,
http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

As a reminder, a Belarus SIG DNA project is also in the works. Stay tuned,
details will be available soon!

In the meantime, allow me to clarify that genealogical DNA testing won't
provide information about hair color. Without going into too much
scientific detail, let me give a very brief explanation:

- Everyone has 23 pair of chromosomes
- One pair of chromosomes are the gender chromosomes, X and Y
- The other 22 pair are called autosomes, and they determine what we look
like
- In addition to chromosomes, we also have Mitochondrial DNA
- Genealogical DNA testing uses the Y chromosome and mitochondria, not the
autosomes

Additional scientific detail is available in the FAQs at the bottom of
JewishGen's Genealogy by Genetics web page. The URL again is
http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/

Anyone interested in detailed discussions about genealogical DNA testing is
encouraged to join JewishGen's DNA Testing mailing list. To join, please
visit http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager

Sincerely,
Elise Friedman
Coordinator, JewishGen DNA Projects


Re: Could Sampson be the same name as Samuel? #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Sally Bruckheimer wrote on 16 aug 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:Sam is Sam is Sam.

There is this joke about the Amsterdam rabbi, saying:
"Samsam, Sam?"

Meaning in that joke:
"Dear Samuel, let's devide this equally". [The Amsterdam local Yiddish word
"samsam" originated >from the Malay "sama-sama", and is >from the indoeuropean
root *sam, that also lead to the English "same".]

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Could Sampson be the same name as Samuel? #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Sally Bruckheimer wrote on 16 aug 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:Sam is Sam is Sam.

There is this joke about the Amsterdam rabbi, saying:
"Samsam, Sam?"

Meaning in that joke:
"Dear Samuel, let's devide this equally". [The Amsterdam local Yiddish word
"samsam" originated >from the Malay "sama-sama", and is >from the indoeuropean
root *sam, that also lead to the English "same".]

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Rabbinic genealogies and Denominational Archives in the US #general

Matt Friedman
 

Hi Folks,

A recent post suggested that synagogue records such as board of directors
minutes be used as a source. Synagogue records are very helpful and I would
suggest that movement archives are a great place to look for them.

While a student at the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati I worked at the
American Jewish Archives (AJA). The AJA has a vast collection of congregational
minutes, charters, bulletins and other documents. Over the years rabbis have
submitted all sorts of documents including sermons, conversion records, marriage
records, eulogies and so forth. Over the years I have also sent newspaper
clippings, ad books, and directories. Many rabbis at retirement have sent
their personal papers as well.

The archives also hold a collection of the newsletter of the Central Conference
of American Rabbis. This publication, though primarily focused on organizational
issues also lists the death of members as well as births and deaths within
rabbis' families.

The archives also maintains a "near print" file. Some of the items already
mentioned and other items are kept there. Someday if someone is curious they
can even look at my file!


I have not visited other Jewish archives, but I am sure similar information is
available.

Good Luck,

Rabbi Matt Friedman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbinic genealogies and Denominational Archives in the US #general

Matt Friedman
 

Hi Folks,

A recent post suggested that synagogue records such as board of directors
minutes be used as a source. Synagogue records are very helpful and I would
suggest that movement archives are a great place to look for them.

While a student at the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati I worked at the
American Jewish Archives (AJA). The AJA has a vast collection of congregational
minutes, charters, bulletins and other documents. Over the years rabbis have
submitted all sorts of documents including sermons, conversion records, marriage
records, eulogies and so forth. Over the years I have also sent newspaper
clippings, ad books, and directories. Many rabbis at retirement have sent
their personal papers as well.

The archives also hold a collection of the newsletter of the Central Conference
of American Rabbis. This publication, though primarily focused on organizational
issues also lists the death of members as well as births and deaths within
rabbis' families.

The archives also maintains a "near print" file. Some of the items already
mentioned and other items are kept there. Someday if someone is curious they
can even look at my file!


I have not visited other Jewish archives, but I am sure similar information is
available.

Good Luck,

Rabbi Matt Friedman


R'Moshe of Kletzk father of R' Dovid of Novarodok #rabbinic

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Does anyone have information as to children of a R' Moshe of Kletzk
who lived some 200-250 years ago and who's son Dovid was the Rabbi
of Novarodok, as a contemporary of R' Chaim of Volozhin. R' Chaim's
200th yahrzeit was about ten years ago

I am *not* interested in Dovid's line as I have been in touch with
them in the past. Of course if anyone on this forum is a descendant
of Dovid who can shed some light on Dovid's siblings I'll be happy
to hear >from them.

Thank you and Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R'Moshe of Kletzk father of R' Dovid of Novarodok #rabbinic

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Does anyone have information as to children of a R' Moshe of Kletzk
who lived some 200-250 years ago and who's son Dovid was the Rabbi
of Novarodok, as a contemporary of R' Chaim of Volozhin. R' Chaim's
200th yahrzeit was about ten years ago

I am *not* interested in Dovid's line as I have been in touch with
them in the past. Of course if anyone on this forum is a descendant
of Dovid who can shed some light on Dovid's siblings I'll be happy
to hear >from them.

Thank you and Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Descedants of R' Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Is there anyone on these list who has very detailed family tree
information of R' Chaim of Volozhin. I have seen the published
trees that have appeared in several books but I need much more.
According to family oral tradition as well as a skimpy hand
scribbled tree we are somehow connected to R' Chaim.

Two possible lines are: Reb. Yosef, a very little known son of Reb'
Chaim, who allegedly became a (Lechowitz?) chosid. Second is the
descendants of R' Itzaleh's daughter and son-in-law, Reb' (Shmuel?)
LANDAU.

We do know that a ggreataunt's husband was a descendant of
R' Chaim's brother Shlomo Zalman.

Thank you and Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Descedants of R' Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Is there anyone on these list who has very detailed family tree
information of R' Chaim of Volozhin. I have seen the published
trees that have appeared in several books but I need much more.
According to family oral tradition as well as a skimpy hand
scribbled tree we are somehow connected to R' Chaim.

Two possible lines are: Reb. Yosef, a very little known son of Reb'
Chaim, who allegedly became a (Lechowitz?) chosid. Second is the
descendants of R' Itzaleh's daughter and son-in-law, Reb' (Shmuel?)
LANDAU.

We do know that a ggreataunt's husband was a descendant of
R' Chaim's brother Shlomo Zalman.

Thank you and Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Looking for Dr Charles Schmulian #southafrica

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

I'm hoping someone on this list can help me with a current email address
for Dr Charles Schmulian. He is an anaesthetist who I think
practises/practised in England, but >from South Africa originally. A
family member wishes to make contact with him.

Please reply off-list.

Many thanks.


Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Looking for Dr Charles Schmulian #southafrica

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

I'm hoping someone on this list can help me with a current email address
for Dr Charles Schmulian. He is an anaesthetist who I think
practises/practised in England, but >from South Africa originally. A
family member wishes to make contact with him.

Please reply off-list.

Many thanks.


Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Could Sampson be the same name as Samuel? #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Sam is Sam is Sam. Samuel was a very popular 'American' name, and
anybody might have used it for whatever Hebrew name. However, Samson
would have the added benefit that it would be very like his Hebrew
name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Could Sampson be the same name as Samuel? #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Sam is Sam is Sam. Samuel was a very popular 'American' name, and
anybody might have used it for whatever Hebrew name. However, Samson
would have the added benefit that it would be very like his Hebrew
name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


names and naming patterns #general

Aida <atedege@...>
 

For those who are interested: you can learn a lot about Jewish names and naming
patterns >from this YIVO article:
http://www.yivo.org/downloads/names_and_naming.pdf
Regards,
Aida Rauch [Belgium]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen names and naming patterns #general

Aida <atedege@...>
 

For those who are interested: you can learn a lot about Jewish names and naming
patterns >from this YIVO article:
http://www.yivo.org/downloads/names_and_naming.pdf
Regards,
Aida Rauch [Belgium]


Sefardim in Seattle #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

A recently published book about mothers and their children says that Seattle
WA has the second largest concentration of Sefardim in the USA.

Does anyone have an explanation for this? Which prompts the next question:
Which city has the largest concentration? Is it . . .

Brooklyn NY? (numerically)
Deal NJ? (proportionately)
Michael Bernet, New York

mbernet@aol.com


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Sefardim in Seattle #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

A recently published book about mothers and their children says that Seattle
WA has the second largest concentration of Sefardim in the USA.

Does anyone have an explanation for this? Which prompts the next question:
Which city has the largest concentration? Is it . . .

Brooklyn NY? (numerically)
Deal NJ? (proportionately)
Michael Bernet, New York

mbernet@aol.com


Re: Jews in the Netherlands #sephardic

Dorothy Kew <dkew@...>
 

Thanks, Christel. I have found connections between the Jews of Curacao and
those of Jamaica, and have no doubt that there are also connections to
Amsterdam. Unfortunately, no Sephardic synagogue records exist prior to
1809, due to a disastrous fire in December 1882 which destroyed both the
Sephardic and Ashkenazi synagogues. The Ashkenazi burial records were also
destroyed. One has to try to make connections back through deeds and wills,
where they exist.

Dorothy
dkew@cogeco.ca


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Re:Jews in the Netherlands #sephardic

Dorothy Kew <dkew@...>
 

Thanks, Christel. I have found connections between the Jews of Curacao and
those of Jamaica, and have no doubt that there are also connections to
Amsterdam. Unfortunately, no Sephardic synagogue records exist prior to
1809, due to a disastrous fire in December 1882 which destroyed both the
Sephardic and Ashkenazi synagogues. The Ashkenazi burial records were also
destroyed. One has to try to make connections back through deeds and wills,
where they exist.

Dorothy
dkew@cogeco.ca