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Re: Bertha BLUMENKRANTZ #general

Avigdor Ben-Dov <avigdorbd@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Perhaps someone might be visiting or near the Mt. Lebanon Cemetery of
Queens in Glendale NY and would be so kind as to make a digital photo
of the headstone with full inscription for a relative named Bertha
BLUMENKRANTZ who died on June 12, 1932. The grave is in Block M,
Section 32, Line 2, Grave 2. Very much appreciate it and thanks.
Avigdor Ben-Dov
Jerusalem
Please reply directly to me and not to JewishGen.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bertha BLUMENKRANTZ #general

Avigdor Ben-Dov <avigdorbd@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Perhaps someone might be visiting or near the Mt. Lebanon Cemetery of
Queens in Glendale NY and would be so kind as to make a digital photo
of the headstone with full inscription for a relative named Bertha
BLUMENKRANTZ who died on June 12, 1932. The grave is in Block M,
Section 32, Line 2, Grave 2. Very much appreciate it and thanks.
Avigdor Ben-Dov
Jerusalem
Please reply directly to me and not to JewishGen.


FREEMAN/GREENFIELD in Dublin/Manchester/Canada/Baltimore #general

monicamcmullin@mac.com
 

I've found a Tobias Noel FREEMAN who was born in Dublin on 10th Oct 1902.
In 1923 he went to Canada & in 1945 he was then living in Baltimore, Maryland.
His Naturalisation Records give his address as: 915, Chaunesy Ave, Baltimore.
By this time he was using the name Noel as his first name & he gave his next of
kin as; Mr A. Freeman of Polygan Road, Crumpsall in Manchester.
If Noel FREEMAN-Tobias FREEMAN - Ibel Tuvia FREEMAN rings any bells please
contact me.

On the Dublin 1901 census, I've found an 8 year-old Ibel Tuvia FREEMAN.
This is the closest match I can find. IF this is the same person, his mother
was:Fannie Gertrude FREEMAN a widow >from Russia age 35 who had six children:
Louis, Alfred FREEMAN age 16.
Hyman Isadore FREEMAN age 14
Maudi FREEMAN daughter ago 12
Sybil FREEMAN age 11
Raphael G FREEMAN age 10
& Ibel Tuvia FREEMAN age 8.
All children were born in Dublin
Also listed is: Sarah GREENFIELD age 28 "sister"
So I assume Fannie Gertrude FREEMAN was nee GREENFIELD.

Thank you

Monica McMullin
Liverpool
monicamcmullin@mac.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FREEMAN/GREENFIELD in Dublin/Manchester/Canada/Baltimore #general

monicamcmullin@mac.com
 

I've found a Tobias Noel FREEMAN who was born in Dublin on 10th Oct 1902.
In 1923 he went to Canada & in 1945 he was then living in Baltimore, Maryland.
His Naturalisation Records give his address as: 915, Chaunesy Ave, Baltimore.
By this time he was using the name Noel as his first name & he gave his next of
kin as; Mr A. Freeman of Polygan Road, Crumpsall in Manchester.
If Noel FREEMAN-Tobias FREEMAN - Ibel Tuvia FREEMAN rings any bells please
contact me.

On the Dublin 1901 census, I've found an 8 year-old Ibel Tuvia FREEMAN.
This is the closest match I can find. IF this is the same person, his mother
was:Fannie Gertrude FREEMAN a widow >from Russia age 35 who had six children:
Louis, Alfred FREEMAN age 16.
Hyman Isadore FREEMAN age 14
Maudi FREEMAN daughter ago 12
Sybil FREEMAN age 11
Raphael G FREEMAN age 10
& Ibel Tuvia FREEMAN age 8.
All children were born in Dublin
Also listed is: Sarah GREENFIELD age 28 "sister"
So I assume Fannie Gertrude FREEMAN was nee GREENFIELD.

Thank you

Monica McMullin
Liverpool
monicamcmullin@mac.com


Hechter, Lemelechis, Grebeniuk families #general

Toni Dee <tonioni@...>
 

My grandfather Schmul Chaimov LEMELECHIS and his family escaped >from Odessa
around 1905 and went to Alexandria, Egypt before he came to the US. My
grandfather's sister met a man with the surname of HECHTER, married him and
moved to France, where they built a successful fashion business. A few
family members tried to contact the HECHTER family with no success. I have
had almost no success finding my father's side of the family. I have seen
the name LEMELECHIS spelled numerous ways, of course, and have searched for
a few years. My grandfather's marriage certificate >from Odessa in 1904 says
he was a citizen of Bar and his wife, Sura Feiga Yankelevna GREBENIUK was a
citizen of Byshev. Has anyone heard of these names and does anyone have any
contact with the HECHTER family? I am interested only in genealogy, not rubbing
shoulders with famous people.

Some other names I am searching for: KRZYWANOWSKI, FRANKENSTEIN, FRANKELSTEIN,
BORNSTEIN

Toni Leon Dee
Boca Raton, FL
tonioni@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hechter, Lemelechis, Grebeniuk families #general

Toni Dee <tonioni@...>
 

My grandfather Schmul Chaimov LEMELECHIS and his family escaped >from Odessa
around 1905 and went to Alexandria, Egypt before he came to the US. My
grandfather's sister met a man with the surname of HECHTER, married him and
moved to France, where they built a successful fashion business. A few
family members tried to contact the HECHTER family with no success. I have
had almost no success finding my father's side of the family. I have seen
the name LEMELECHIS spelled numerous ways, of course, and have searched for
a few years. My grandfather's marriage certificate >from Odessa in 1904 says
he was a citizen of Bar and his wife, Sura Feiga Yankelevna GREBENIUK was a
citizen of Byshev. Has anyone heard of these names and does anyone have any
contact with the HECHTER family? I am interested only in genealogy, not rubbing
shoulders with famous people.

Some other names I am searching for: KRZYWANOWSKI, FRANKENSTEIN, FRANKELSTEIN,
BORNSTEIN

Toni Leon Dee
Boca Raton, FL
tonioni@bellsouth.net


Why So Few Vital records from Buchach, Ukraine? #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Meron Lavie wrote:

"I have lots of family >from Buchach, Ukraine (nee Buczacz, Galicia)
who definitely lived there >from at least the early 19th century until
the late 19th century; yet I can find next to no records about them in
any of the JewishGen databases - despite the fact that I have very
reliable information about their names, years of birth, etc."

As both Alexander Sharon and Mark Halpern explained, there are limited
Bucacz records held in AGAD in Warsaw, and more extensive records held
at the Warsaw USC (civil records office), but those records are not
available for public viewing or indexing because of the 100 year
privacy rule. (The books cover a span of years--most of which are less
than those 100 years--so the earlier years in these books are still
inaccessible to researchers.) Yes, you can visit or write to the USC
offices to ask them to do a search, but they prefer that you are
specific about exact names, events and dates, versus making a global
search covering 50 years for a particular surname. Still--it can't
hurt to contact them. They will provide written extracts, not copies
of the pages of registry in the books.

Another source of information, available now and freely online, is the
new All Galicia Database:

http://www.search.geshergalicia.org

This search engine was officially launched by Gesher Galicia, the
special interest group for those with Jewish roots in the former
Austrian province, in July 2011. It features 192,268 records >from 60
different data sources, covering everything >from birth, death,
marriage and divorce records to phone books, school and landowner
records. Although Gesher Galicia's focus is researching Jewish roots
in this region, the diverse community sources of information in this
database also contain names that span all the ethnic and religious
groups who lived in the area, so not everyone listed in this database
will necessarily be Jewish.

We have 951 records for Bucacz >from the 1879 Landowner Record Book.
You can search by surname (using Beider-Morse Soundex) and will learn
the house number, district and property area. (Click on the + sign to
drop down additional information.)

The description of this book is: Inventory of landowners of Buchach
(Wyciag z obliczenia pomiaru i oszacowania.) Tax record sheets
include name, house number, place of residence, list of land parcels
in land parcel number order showing parcel numbers, type & class of
land, land parcel area, & value for taxation. Tax record nos. 1-989 in
5 books include the city of Buczacz & suburbs I to IV.

Gesher Galicia also has digital images of these books--containing more
information than the indexes--and an additional book >from 1880, not
yet indexed. The data is freely searchable, but the images are
available only to project contributors.

If you check Gesher Galicia's Cadastral Map & Landowner Records
Project Inventory:

http://www.jewishgen.org/galicia/cadastral_maps_and_landowners_project/records.php

You'll see that there are several more records for Bucacz held in the
Lviv Historical Archive--some of which have been examined and reported
on--others which have not yet been looked at, but which may contain
your family names.

Although not as much information is learned >from property records as
vital records, they do serve to place a specific family in a specific
town in a specific year, and many people have made breakthroughs in
their research using these records. Gesher Galicia has also scanned
many cadastral maps as companion pieces to these landowner records,
where one can find, in some cases, the names of the property owners
written on the maps. Look for our launching of the "Gesher Galicia
Map Room" to take place in a few months, where these maps will be
freely accessible online.

I suggest you search in the AGD for your Bucacz surnames, and if you
have success in finding them there, please let us know!

When doing genealogical research, and vital records are sparse or
missing, it's important to think outside the box and examine other
types of records which can help fill certain years. Gesher Galicia is
now expanding its research to include school records, voter records
(woman were voting in Galicia before they were allowed to vote in the
United States!), tabular (notary and inheritance) records, Polish
magnate landowner records (where information about Jewish residents
often appeared), Austrian government records and more.

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Why So Few Vital records from Buchach, Ukraine? #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Meron Lavie wrote:

"I have lots of family >from Buchach, Ukraine (nee Buczacz, Galicia)
who definitely lived there >from at least the early 19th century until
the late 19th century; yet I can find next to no records about them in
any of the JewishGen databases - despite the fact that I have very
reliable information about their names, years of birth, etc."

As both Alexander Sharon and Mark Halpern explained, there are limited
Bucacz records held in AGAD in Warsaw, and more extensive records held
at the Warsaw USC (civil records office), but those records are not
available for public viewing or indexing because of the 100 year
privacy rule. (The books cover a span of years--most of which are less
than those 100 years--so the earlier years in these books are still
inaccessible to researchers.) Yes, you can visit or write to the USC
offices to ask them to do a search, but they prefer that you are
specific about exact names, events and dates, versus making a global
search covering 50 years for a particular surname. Still--it can't
hurt to contact them. They will provide written extracts, not copies
of the pages of registry in the books.

Another source of information, available now and freely online, is the
new All Galicia Database:

http://www.search.geshergalicia.org

This search engine was officially launched by Gesher Galicia, the
special interest group for those with Jewish roots in the former
Austrian province, in July 2011. It features 192,268 records >from 60
different data sources, covering everything >from birth, death,
marriage and divorce records to phone books, school and landowner
records. Although Gesher Galicia's focus is researching Jewish roots
in this region, the diverse community sources of information in this
database also contain names that span all the ethnic and religious
groups who lived in the area, so not everyone listed in this database
will necessarily be Jewish.

We have 951 records for Bucacz >from the 1879 Landowner Record Book.
You can search by surname (using Beider-Morse Soundex) and will learn
the house number, district and property area. (Click on the + sign to
drop down additional information.)

The description of this book is: Inventory of landowners of Buchach
(Wyciag z obliczenia pomiaru i oszacowania.) Tax record sheets
include name, house number, place of residence, list of land parcels
in land parcel number order showing parcel numbers, type & class of
land, land parcel area, & value for taxation. Tax record nos. 1-989 in
5 books include the city of Buczacz & suburbs I to IV.

Gesher Galicia also has digital images of these books--containing more
information than the indexes--and an additional book >from 1880, not
yet indexed. The data is freely searchable, but the images are
available only to project contributors.

If you check Gesher Galicia's Cadastral Map & Landowner Records
Project Inventory:

http://www.jewishgen.org/galicia/cadastral_maps_and_landowners_project/records.php

You'll see that there are several more records for Bucacz held in the
Lviv Historical Archive--some of which have been examined and reported
on--others which have not yet been looked at, but which may contain
your family names.

Although not as much information is learned >from property records as
vital records, they do serve to place a specific family in a specific
town in a specific year, and many people have made breakthroughs in
their research using these records. Gesher Galicia has also scanned
many cadastral maps as companion pieces to these landowner records,
where one can find, in some cases, the names of the property owners
written on the maps. Look for our launching of the "Gesher Galicia
Map Room" to take place in a few months, where these maps will be
freely accessible online.

I suggest you search in the AGD for your Bucacz surnames, and if you
have success in finding them there, please let us know!

When doing genealogical research, and vital records are sparse or
missing, it's important to think outside the box and examine other
types of records which can help fill certain years. Gesher Galicia is
now expanding its research to include school records, voter records
(woman were voting in Galicia before they were allowed to vote in the
United States!), tabular (notary and inheritance) records, Polish
magnate landowner records (where information about Jewish residents
often appeared), Austrian government records and more.

Pamela Weisberger
President & Research Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com


certificate of literacy #general

Helene Bergman <helenebergman@...>
 

Going through family papers, I found an official certificate of
literacy for my grandmother, dated 1952. By that date, my grandmother
had been in the US since 1937 and was already a citizen. Can anyone
enlighten me as to why a 52 year old naturalized US citizen would have
obtained such certification?
Thanks in advance


Lanie Bergman
Bronx NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen certificate of literacy #general

Helene Bergman <helenebergman@...>
 

Going through family papers, I found an official certificate of
literacy for my grandmother, dated 1952. By that date, my grandmother
had been in the US since 1937 and was already a citizen. Can anyone
enlighten me as to why a 52 year old naturalized US citizen would have
obtained such certification?
Thanks in advance


Lanie Bergman
Bronx NY


Re: Looking for Esther ROSENBLATT-LIEBMANN,her descendants or family members #general

lehrer
 

Hello,

I forgot to add the date of births for Esther and her husband:
Est married on 26 June 1932 in Kings County (NY) to
Michael Rosenblatt (I have no DOB for him.

Gershon Lehrer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for Esther ROSENBLATT-LIEBMANN,her descendants or family members #general

lehrer
 

Hello,

I forgot to add the date of births for Esther and her husband:
Est married on 26 June 1932 in Kings County (NY) to
Michael Rosenblatt (I have no DOB for him.

Gershon Lehrer


Help Transcribing & Translating Small Snip of Wilhelm Mayer's 1850 k. k. Marine Fitness Report #austria-czech

James
 

I seek help with the transcription/translation of a small part of an
1850 Austrian Navy document.

With Traude Triebel's kind help, I obtained Wilhelm Mayer's k. k. Marine
1850 and 1851 annual fitness reports. I have transcribed and translated
all but one small part (underlined in red on the image posted at the URL
below) involving the warship Vulcan that he served on in 1850. I think
this small bit is the name or type of war vessel the Vulcan was (like a
larger ship as opposed to the small corvette Leipzig he first served on):

http://castellan.us/HEIRLOOMS/MayerWilhelmKKMarine1850ServiceOnWarShips.jpg

Here's what I have so far:

Hat Campagnen und andere Seereisengemacht
[Campaigns and other voyages made]

Vom 6 Juli 1850 bis 2ten Septbr 1850 auf der Corv[ette] Leipzig

Vom 3 Septbr 1850 bis 5te October auf dem Kriegs ?? Vulcan, nie geschifft


[From6 July 1850 to 2nd September 1850 on the Corv[vette] Leipzig
from 3 September 1850 to 5th October on the war ?? Vulcan, never (left
port)]



Thanks for any helpful contributions to transcribing/translating this
old script.

Jim


32nd IAJGS Conference 5th Newsletter #austria-czech

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj
 

Dear friends,

The organizing team of Paris 2012 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy is glad to send you this fifth newsletter.

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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Help Transcribing & Translating Small Snip of Wilhelm Mayer's 1850 k. k. Marine Fitness Report #austria-czech

James
 

I seek help with the transcription/translation of a small part of an
1850 Austrian Navy document.

With Traude Triebel's kind help, I obtained Wilhelm Mayer's k. k. Marine
1850 and 1851 annual fitness reports. I have transcribed and translated
all but one small part (underlined in red on the image posted at the URL
below) involving the warship Vulcan that he served on in 1850. I think
this small bit is the name or type of war vessel the Vulcan was (like a
larger ship as opposed to the small corvette Leipzig he first served on):

http://castellan.us/HEIRLOOMS/MayerWilhelmKKMarine1850ServiceOnWarShips.jpg

Here's what I have so far:

Hat Campagnen und andere Seereisengemacht
[Campaigns and other voyages made]

Vom 6 Juli 1850 bis 2ten Septbr 1850 auf der Corv[ette] Leipzig

Vom 3 Septbr 1850 bis 5te October auf dem Kriegs ?? Vulcan, nie geschifft


[From6 July 1850 to 2nd September 1850 on the Corv[vette] Leipzig
from 3 September 1850 to 5th October on the war ?? Vulcan, never (left
port)]



Thanks for any helpful contributions to transcribing/translating this
old script.

Jim


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech 32nd IAJGS Conference 5th Newsletter #austria-czech

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj
 

Dear friends,

The organizing team of Paris 2012 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy is glad to send you this fifth newsletter.

---GALA---

***Tuesday July 17 at 7:00 pm***

FATHER PATRICK DESBOIS, president of Yahad-in Unum (Holocaust by bullets)
will be our Guest. *Register Now* !

---NEW---

** Sign for the SIG BREAKFASTS (19 euros) or LUNCHES (29 euros). You can also sign
for LUNCHES ONLY (without SIG registration : 25 euros). All meals will be
KOSHER.

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your flight numbers and the dates and times of arrival and departure to
celine@joubert-voyages.com

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list and the schedule is available on http://www.paris2012.eu/events

See you soon Paris,

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32nd IAJGS Conference 5th Newsletter #ciechanow #poland

bounce-2389011-772951@...
 

Dear friends,

The organizing team of Paris 2012 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy is glad to send you this fifth newsletter.

---GALA---

***Tuesday July 17 at 7:00 pm***

FATHER PATRICK DESBOIS, president of Yahad-in Unum (Holocaust by bullets)
will be our Guest. *Register Now* !

---NEW---

** Sign for the SIG BREAKFASTS (19 euros) or LUNCHES (29 euros). You can also sign
for LUNCHES ONLY (without SIG registration : 25 euros). All meals will be
KOSHER.

** Joubert-voyage may organize your TRANSFER AIRPORT/HOTEL/AIRPORT: send
your flight numbers and the dates and times of arrival and departure to
celine@joubert-voyages.com

** The FILM PROGRAM is available on
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---RECALL---

** REGISTER NOW : You have A FEW DAYS LEFT to enjoy the EARLYBIRD
REGISTRATION RATES for the conference at: http://www.paris2012.eu/products.

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Conference at http://www.joubert-voyages.com/cercle-genealogie-juive.php

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#Ciechanow #Poland 32nd IAJGS Conference 5th Newsletter #ciechanow #poland

bounce-2389011-772951@...
 

Dear friends,

The organizing team of Paris 2012 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy is glad to send you this fifth newsletter.

---GALA---

***Tuesday July 17 at 7:00 pm***

FATHER PATRICK DESBOIS, president of Yahad-in Unum (Holocaust by bullets)
will be our Guest. *Register Now* !

---NEW---

** Sign for the SIG BREAKFASTS (19 euros) or LUNCHES (29 euros). You can also sign
for LUNCHES ONLY (without SIG registration : 25 euros). All meals will be
KOSHER.

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your flight numbers and the dates and times of arrival and departure to
celine@joubert-voyages.com

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---RECALL---

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zx4zx4a. If you want to stay longer, this rate is valid for 5 days before
and five days after the Conference.

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PARIS (select "Registration")

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Conference at http://www.joubert-voyages.com/cercle-genealogie-juive.php

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Re: "Freblowka" and "ochronka". #poland

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

Re. the meaning of the Polish word "ochronka", I am quoting >from The
Dictionary of Polish Language, v. 2, PWN Warsaw 1979. "Ochronka, arch., an
establishment for poor or orphaned children, provided in the past by
convents or charitable institutions; later: a kind of kindergarten."

Obviously "ochronka" could mean either an orphanage or a kindergarten,
depending on the context.

Best regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: "Freblowka" and "ochronka".
From: Henryk Gruder <henrygruder@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:53:12 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1


With all due respect: As explain in a personal e-mail "ochronka" did not
mean kindergarten, but orphanage. My mother in law was educated in
"ochronka" of the name of Jozef Pilsudski in Lvov.

Henryk Gruder

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Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

Re. the meaning of the Polish word "ochronka", I am quoting >from The
Dictionary of Polish Language, v. 2, PWN Warsaw 1979. "Ochronka, arch., an
establishment for poor or orphaned children, provided in the past by
convents or charitable institutions; later: a kind of kindergarten."

Obviously "ochronka" could mean either an orphanage or a kindergarten,
depending on the context.

Best regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
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Subject: Re: "Freblowka" and "ochronka".
From: Henryk Gruder <henrygruder@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:53:12 -0400
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With all due respect: As explain in a personal e-mail "ochronka" did not
mean kindergarten, but orphanage. My mother in law was educated in
"ochronka" of the name of Jozef Pilsudski in Lvov.

Henryk Gruder

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