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Seek Verbandsgemeinden Deidesheim vital records #germany

Steve Hahn <steve@...>
 

I want to look up birth, marriage and death records
for Deidesheim, Germany (near Worms) >from 1798 onward.

I have not been successful in locating the mailing
address or e-mail address of the archive that has
these records. Any help would be appreciated.

I contacted touristinfo@deidesheim.de,
but came up with no results. They directed me to an
archive in Speyer, who say they do not have the records I am seeking.

Deidesheim is both a city and a Verbandsgemeinden
(collective-municipality). The archive holding the
Deidesheim city records probably holds the records for
the whole of the Verbandsgemeinden Deidesheim.

Steven Hahn Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA steve@hahn.info
German SIG #Germany Seek Verbandsgemeinden Deidesheim vital records #germany

Steve Hahn <steve@...>
 

I want to look up birth, marriage and death records
for Deidesheim, Germany (near Worms) >from 1798 onward.

I have not been successful in locating the mailing
address or e-mail address of the archive that has
these records. Any help would be appreciated.

I contacted touristinfo@deidesheim.de,
but came up with no results. They directed me to an
archive in Speyer, who say they do not have the records I am seeking.

Deidesheim is both a city and a Verbandsgemeinden
(collective-municipality). The archive holding the
Deidesheim city records probably holds the records for
the whole of the Verbandsgemeinden Deidesheim.

Steven Hahn Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA steve@hahn.info
The circumcision book of Zwetsen no 2 #general

Ury Link
 

Dear Genners
Yesterday I send a letter to the JewishGen en Gersig about the circumcision book
from Zwetsen. This name was mention in the book. But I forget to mention that today
the name of the place is Bad Zwesten and it is 5 kilometer south of Bad Wildungen
in district Kassel in Hessen Germany.

Thanks en Shana Tova to you all
Best regards
Ury Link
Amsterdam
Holland
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The circumcision book of Zwetsen no 2 #general

Ury Link
 

Dear Genners
Yesterday I send a letter to the JewishGen en Gersig about the circumcision book
from Zwetsen. This name was mention in the book. But I forget to mention that today
the name of the place is Bad Zwesten and it is 5 kilometer south of Bad Wildungen
in district Kassel in Hessen Germany.

Thanks en Shana Tova to you all
Best regards
Ury Link
Amsterdam
Holland
Neurath plus Familianten Book #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

Hi,

When somebody decides what the rest of the words say after the name of
Rachel, could they post it and not respond privately. I have no idea what
it says and have a terrible time reading the Bohemian version of old German
handwriting. We need a good on-line paleography course for this, or perhaps
JewishGen can develop a section for paleography, not just showing what
letters looked like, but what commonly used words and names looked like. It
would make life a little easier.

As for Neurath, looking for such a place of course makes no sense as there
is not necessarily a connection between family names and places. However,
there are two Neuraths in Styria just south of Graz, and there are three in
the Rhineland, though not close to one another.

Of course everybody familiar with the occupation of Bohemia is aware of the
name of the infamous freiherr von Neurath whose family comes >from Swabia, in
Wurttembourg.

I go for the name developing >from one of Celia's Bohemians, just changed a
bit by someone who misheard the name when it was given to him.

Peter Bakos
Budapest, where summer has certainly ended
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Neurath plus Familianten Book #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

Hi,

When somebody decides what the rest of the words say after the name of
Rachel, could they post it and not respond privately. I have no idea what
it says and have a terrible time reading the Bohemian version of old German
handwriting. We need a good on-line paleography course for this, or perhaps
JewishGen can develop a section for paleography, not just showing what
letters looked like, but what commonly used words and names looked like. It
would make life a little easier.

As for Neurath, looking for such a place of course makes no sense as there
is not necessarily a connection between family names and places. However,
there are two Neuraths in Styria just south of Graz, and there are three in
the Rhineland, though not close to one another.

Of course everybody familiar with the occupation of Bohemia is aware of the
name of the infamous freiherr von Neurath whose family comes >from Swabia, in
Wurttembourg.

I go for the name developing >from one of Celia's Bohemians, just changed a
bit by someone who misheard the name when it was given to him.

Peter Bakos
Budapest, where summer has certainly ended
Re: Translations of Birth Records - [another question] #germany

Steve Hahn <steve@...>
 

The 1812 marriage record of Johannes HAHN to Johanetta
LIEBMANN shows his parents as Isaac LÖB and Gütle
ELKAN, as does the marriage record of his brother
Emanuel HAHN to Charlotte WOLF.

The Acts of the Changes of the Names of the Jews in
Eppelsheim, dated 26 Oct 1808, shows the following two
entries (among the 31 total entries) in French:

Name of Declarant - First Name - Family Name

Isaak Hahn - Jean - Hahn
Mendle Isaak - Emanuel - Hahn

Johannes may be the only child of Isaac LÖB and Gütle
ELKAN with the second name HAHN prior to 1808. They
have a sister Sara ISAAK and possibly a sister Barbara
ISAAK. I hope to know by next week whether their
sister Clare has the maiden name ISAAK.

My questions:

Why does Johannes HAHN give his name as Isaak HAHN
when he is registering his family name (and his first
name) in 1808, but signs his name as Elchanan in
Hebrew on his son Jacob's birth record?

I am aware that a child's second name is usually the
same as his/her father's first name. I have no more
knowledge of Jewish naming beyond this.

Steven Hahn Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA steve@hahn.info
German SIG #Germany Re: Translations of Birth Records - [another question] #germany

Steve Hahn <steve@...>
 

The 1812 marriage record of Johannes HAHN to Johanetta
LIEBMANN shows his parents as Isaac LÖB and Gütle
ELKAN, as does the marriage record of his brother
Emanuel HAHN to Charlotte WOLF.

The Acts of the Changes of the Names of the Jews in
Eppelsheim, dated 26 Oct 1808, shows the following two
entries (among the 31 total entries) in French:

Name of Declarant - First Name - Family Name

Isaak Hahn - Jean - Hahn
Mendle Isaak - Emanuel - Hahn

Johannes may be the only child of Isaac LÖB and Gütle
ELKAN with the second name HAHN prior to 1808. They
have a sister Sara ISAAK and possibly a sister Barbara
ISAAK. I hope to know by next week whether their
sister Clare has the maiden name ISAAK.

My questions:

Why does Johannes HAHN give his name as Isaak HAHN
when he is registering his family name (and his first
name) in 1808, but signs his name as Elchanan in
Hebrew on his son Jacob's birth record?

I am aware that a child's second name is usually the
same as his/her father's first name. I have no more
knowledge of Jewish naming beyond this.

Steven Hahn Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA steve@hahn.info
Re: HERMANN-KAFKA question #austria-czech

Micheline GUTMANN
 

Celia Male wrote :
" Perhaps Elie {nee KAFKA} HERMANN just returned to Prague to have the baby
and the HERMANN family had permanently settled elsewhere, well before the
birth?"

I need to give more explanation: only Felix was surely for a while in
Brussels, he was a travelling salesman resident in Prague, address 4 Bilkova
(must be the name of a street of Prague); the address in Brussels is also
given, rue Crespel 56.
He was probably obliged to ask for a passport and at this occasion he gave
his parents' name. And perhaps the parents never went to Belgium.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
site GenAmi www.genami.org
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: HERMANN-KAFKA question #austria-czech

Micheline GUTMANN
 

Celia Male wrote :
" Perhaps Elie {nee KAFKA} HERMANN just returned to Prague to have the baby
and the HERMANN family had permanently settled elsewhere, well before the
birth?"

I need to give more explanation: only Felix was surely for a while in
Brussels, he was a travelling salesman resident in Prague, address 4 Bilkova
(must be the name of a street of Prague); the address in Brussels is also
given, rue Crespel 56.
He was probably obliged to ask for a passport and at this occasion he gave
his parents' name. And perhaps the parents never went to Belgium.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
site GenAmi www.genami.org
Thanks to all who helped with Neurath research #austria-czech

Alan Kolnik <alan.kolnik@...>
 

My thanks to all those who responded with help and ideas for further
research into the Neurath family. We have just made contact with someone in
Sydney Australia who may have much additional information and even
photographs of the family!

Alan Kolnik
Bethesda, MD
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Thanks to all who helped with Neurath research #austria-czech

Alan Kolnik <alan.kolnik@...>
 

My thanks to all those who responded with help and ideas for further
research into the Neurath family. We have just made contact with someone in
Sydney Australia who may have much additional information and even
photographs of the family!

Alan Kolnik
Bethesda, MD
How to find which cemetery in NY ggp are buried in #general

natrab@...
 

I can relate to you my experience in a similar quandry; I applied for a copy of my
GrandFather Max Heller's death cert., where I confirmed the names of his parents.
Then, I searched for his parents's death dates. I only found his father Hirsh
Heller's (d. 1913), then ordered the death cert. It showed that he was buried at
Union Field Cemetery, NY. When I visited NY in June (I live in Yerushalayim), I
went to the cemetery and was delighted to find both their graves!!

Good luck and Shana Tova,
Rachel Heller Bernstein, Yerushalayim
Researching:
FREYs: Nowy Sacz/Tarnow HELLERs: Kazimierz, Krakow/Tarnow Deutelbaums - Krakow/
Tarnow DANZIGERs - Nowy Sacz Dershowicz - Nowy Sacz / Tarnow/ Labowa
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to find which cemetery in NY ggp are buried in #general

natrab@...
 

I can relate to you my experience in a similar quandry; I applied for a copy of my
GrandFather Max Heller's death cert., where I confirmed the names of his parents.
Then, I searched for his parents's death dates. I only found his father Hirsh
Heller's (d. 1913), then ordered the death cert. It showed that he was buried at
Union Field Cemetery, NY. When I visited NY in June (I live in Yerushalayim), I
went to the cemetery and was delighted to find both their graves!!

Good luck and Shana Tova,
Rachel Heller Bernstein, Yerushalayim
Researching:
FREYs: Nowy Sacz/Tarnow HELLERs: Kazimierz, Krakow/Tarnow Deutelbaums - Krakow/
Tarnow DANZIGERs - Nowy Sacz Dershowicz - Nowy Sacz / Tarnow/ Labowa
help deciphering handwriting #latvia

Bruce Dumes <brucedumes@...>
 

I found the death record for my great-grandmother. She died in 1933
after being hit by a car in St. Louis, MO. I am trying to figure out
what the person has written down for her parents names. The writing
isn't that bad, it's just that it doesn't make much sense for Jewish
names.

http://www.dumes.net/documents/death/Sadie_Death_Cert.jpg

It looks like her father is: Orki Chaim Nov?solik and her mother
is: Chari (or Chasi) Momi

I have a report >from the LSHA that says her father's name was Abram
Nowoselok, so the last name is close. But Orki?

The informant was either her son-in-law or daughter (it looks like
"Mrs." Rev. J. Kaplan), so I'm assuming the data was pretty good, and
the person writing it down was just not very careful.

It's an interesting record because it even gives the name of the
fellow who hit her, and where it happened, none of which I would have
otherwise known.

Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Regards,
Bruce Dumes
Los Angeles, CA

Researching:
DUMES/DUMESH in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
NOWOSELOK in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
ABELSKY/OBELSKI/OBELSKA in Lodzie/Lozdzieje, Lithuania
Latvia SIG #Latvia help deciphering handwriting #latvia

Bruce Dumes <brucedumes@...>
 

I found the death record for my great-grandmother. She died in 1933
after being hit by a car in St. Louis, MO. I am trying to figure out
what the person has written down for her parents names. The writing
isn't that bad, it's just that it doesn't make much sense for Jewish
names.

http://www.dumes.net/documents/death/Sadie_Death_Cert.jpg

It looks like her father is: Orki Chaim Nov?solik and her mother
is: Chari (or Chasi) Momi

I have a report >from the LSHA that says her father's name was Abram
Nowoselok, so the last name is close. But Orki?

The informant was either her son-in-law or daughter (it looks like
"Mrs." Rev. J. Kaplan), so I'm assuming the data was pretty good, and
the person writing it down was just not very careful.

It's an interesting record because it even gives the name of the
fellow who hit her, and where it happened, none of which I would have
otherwise known.

Any help would be deeply appreciated.

Regards,
Bruce Dumes
Los Angeles, CA

Researching:
DUMES/DUMESH in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
NOWOSELOK in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
ABELSKY/OBELSKI/OBELSKA in Lodzie/Lozdzieje, Lithuania
Museum of Family History Update for Belarus Researchers #belarus

Steven Lasky <steve@...>
 

Greetings,

This is to let you know what is new for Belarus researchers at the virtual
Museum of Family History:

--Pre-World War II topographical maps (replete with the names of towns and
villages) for the areas surrounding Minsk and Pinsk.
--All the Pinsk plots in the New York/New Jersey area have now been
photographed, so now the Pinsk unique surnames list and the Pinsk society
gates page is complete and up-to-date. There is also a combined society plot
for Goniadz, Poland and Chomsk, Belarus that I now have photographs and data
for.
--Pre-World War II family photographs have been added to my "Postcards >from
Home" exhibition for Baryslaw (Borisow) and Dolginovo, Belarus.
--To the best of my knowledge, my TownSites page now has links to all
genealogically-relevant town web pages/sites, including all Belarus
ShtetLinks pages.

Best wishes for a happy and healthy new year.

Steven Lasky
New York
Belarus SIG #Belarus Museum of Family History Update for Belarus Researchers #belarus

Steven Lasky <steve@...>
 

Greetings,

This is to let you know what is new for Belarus researchers at the virtual
Museum of Family History:

--Pre-World War II topographical maps (replete with the names of towns and
villages) for the areas surrounding Minsk and Pinsk.
--All the Pinsk plots in the New York/New Jersey area have now been
photographed, so now the Pinsk unique surnames list and the Pinsk society
gates page is complete and up-to-date. There is also a combined society plot
for Goniadz, Poland and Chomsk, Belarus that I now have photographs and data
for.
--Pre-World War II family photographs have been added to my "Postcards >from
Home" exhibition for Baryslaw (Borisow) and Dolginovo, Belarus.
--To the best of my knowledge, my TownSites page now has links to all
genealogically-relevant town web pages/sites, including all Belarus
ShtetLinks pages.

Best wishes for a happy and healthy new year.

Steven Lasky
New York
Re: How to find the NYC cemetery #general

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Diana asked about finding the cemetery. The cemetery is listed on the NY death
certificate...it is a two step procedure;
first find the death date and place:
1.The social security death listing should give you the place they died.
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/
or, if it was before 1948, look it up on the italiangen index
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCdeathsearch.asp

2.order one of the death certficates >from the ny municipal archives if it was
before 1948 http://www.italiangen.org/NYC_Death_Form.htm or the board of health if
it was after 1948...http://home2.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/death.shtml

Happy Hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, Wilton, Conn & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (also Iasi, Romania)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to find the NYC cemetery #general

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Diana asked about finding the cemetery. The cemetery is listed on the NY death
certificate...it is a two step procedure;
first find the death date and place:
1.The social security death listing should give you the place they died.
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/
or, if it was before 1948, look it up on the italiangen index
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCdeathsearch.asp

2.order one of the death certficates >from the ny municipal archives if it was
before 1948 http://www.italiangen.org/NYC_Death_Form.htm or the board of health if
it was after 1948...http://home2.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/death.shtml

Happy Hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, Wilton, Conn & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (also Iasi, Romania)
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