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Siberia SHERENSON #general

Rosalind
 

Reading Avraham KAHAN's email made me think of my own problem finding
records for Tomsk in W Siberia.

Recently I found the parentage and family of Nechama Ida SHERMAN who married
Mr SHERENSON.

I noted that one of his brothers lived his whole life in Lithuania, whereas my
SHERENSONs had to leave for some reason and went to Tomsk in W Siberia, >from where
in 1904 they sent a photo post card to my GGF thanking him for help.

Picture shows a young couple with two small children and a baby on mother's knee.

Is there any source of Jewish birth records in W Siberia?

Additionally I found my Mr SHERENSON had a brother Reuben. Reuben's birthday is
the same as that of Dr Reuben SHARENSON of Massachusetts.(Zal) but his family say
he had only several older sisters, which is contrary to my findings for Sherenson.

Thanks for any suggestions for further research

Ros Romem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Siberia SHERENSON #general

Rosalind
 

Reading Avraham KAHAN's email made me think of my own problem finding
records for Tomsk in W Siberia.

Recently I found the parentage and family of Nechama Ida SHERMAN who married
Mr SHERENSON.

I noted that one of his brothers lived his whole life in Lithuania, whereas my
SHERENSONs had to leave for some reason and went to Tomsk in W Siberia, >from where
in 1904 they sent a photo post card to my GGF thanking him for help.

Picture shows a young couple with two small children and a baby on mother's knee.

Is there any source of Jewish birth records in W Siberia?

Additionally I found my Mr SHERENSON had a brother Reuben. Reuben's birthday is
the same as that of Dr Reuben SHARENSON of Massachusetts.(Zal) but his family say
he had only several older sisters, which is contrary to my findings for Sherenson.

Thanks for any suggestions for further research

Ros Romem


Interview with SACKS, developer of collaborative family tree site #general

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

FYI. An interview with David SACKS, developer of the collaborative
family tree site Geni,is on-line at
<http://magazine.uchicago.edu/07910/features/take2.shtml>.
The article discusses
many current issues in genealogy related to technology, information sharing, and
uses of data for prediction and marketing.
Source: Joshua DAVIS, "Take 2.0," The University of Chicago Magazine
100 (Sep.-Oct. 2007): 30-33.
Regards,
Lisa THALER (Chicago, IL) lisathaler@sbcglobal.net

Researching... emigre artist Sacha KOLIN (1911 Paris-1981 NYC; res.
-1936 Vienna); KOLIN of Brailov, Ukr.; KULIN of Odesa, Ukr.; and
SLOBODIANIUK of Chernevtsy, Ukr., and Soroca, Mold.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Interview with SACKS, developer of collaborative family tree site #general

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

FYI. An interview with David SACKS, developer of the collaborative
family tree site Geni,is on-line at
<http://magazine.uchicago.edu/07910/features/take2.shtml>.
The article discusses
many current issues in genealogy related to technology, information sharing, and
uses of data for prediction and marketing.
Source: Joshua DAVIS, "Take 2.0," The University of Chicago Magazine
100 (Sep.-Oct. 2007): 30-33.
Regards,
Lisa THALER (Chicago, IL) lisathaler@sbcglobal.net

Researching... emigre artist Sacha KOLIN (1911 Paris-1981 NYC; res.
-1936 Vienna); KOLIN of Brailov, Ukr.; KULIN of Odesa, Ukr.; and
SLOBODIANIUK of Chernevtsy, Ukr., and Soroca, Mold.


Re: Tombstones #lithuania

Jjlaca@...
 

Where in SA are they buried?

Westpark Cemetary in Johannesburg has excellent records. You can also check
the JOWBR website.

Jonny Joseph
Los Angeles (ex Johannesburg)


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Subject: Tombstones
From: "Adrian Freedman" <attie.f@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:09:51 +0200

Chag sameach
I am trying to get family details off tombstones in South Africa,
and was informed that all records prior to 1960 have been buried by
the Hevra Kadisha. I presume that this has been preserved somewhere
(although before days of computers)
If this is the information obtainable >from the Jewish Gen or fron the
UCT site there is sadly a lot of information unavailable >from these
sites
Is this information correct ?
Regards
Adrian Freedman
Raanana Israel


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Tombstones #southafrica

Jjlaca@...
 

Where in SA are they buried?

Westpark Cemetary in Johannesburg has excellent records. You can also check
the JOWBR website.

Jonny Joseph
Los Angeles (ex Johannesburg)


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Subject: Tombstones
From: "Adrian Freedman" <attie.f@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:09:51 +0200

Chag sameach
I am trying to get family details off tombstones in South Africa,
and was informed that all records prior to 1960 have been buried by
the Hevra Kadisha. I presume that this has been preserved somewhere
(although before days of computers)
If this is the information obtainable >from the Jewish Gen or fron the
UCT site there is sadly a lot of information unavailable >from these
sites
Is this information correct ?
Regards
Adrian Freedman
Raanana Israel


Re: S.AFRICAN CEMETERIES #southafrica

Anne BREST <digitalphoto@...>
 

Hallo South African Siggers

Adrian, you wrote - "I am trying to get family details off tombstones in
South Africa,
and was informed that all records prior to 1960 have been buried by
the Hevra Kadisha".

My reply - The only thing which has been "buried" by the South African
Chevra Kadisha are the deceased themselves.

All records are preserved, and meticulously so, and are available on both
computerized sheets, and the "original" register which can be viewed.

I speak for all three cemeteries in Johannesburg (and Im pretty sure the
same applies to all S.AFrica cemeteries). There are records for the
earliest one "Braamfontein" and then "Brixton" and the current cemetery
"WestPark".

This information contains the name and surname of the deceased, and date of
death, and location of grave . It does not contain the name of the
deceaseds' parents or family or any other info. Graves do need to be looked
at.

You did mention Dublin. I presume you mean Dublin, Ireland?? I can help
you there as I have access to information about Irish graves and who is
buried in them.

I also know a girl >from SA, now living in the US (the Valley, Los Angeles)
whose maiden name was DWOLATSKY and I could put you in touch with her. for
that info, please reply privately.

CHAG SAMEACH to you all. It rained for most of the beginning part of Succos
in Jhb/Sandton area and everyone was washed right out of their respective
Sukkah s.

Anne Lapedus BREST (ex Dublin, Ireland) Sandton, South Africa
RESEARCHING - LAPEDUS and KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania). MARCUS and FELDMAN
(Ackmene, Lithuania), KLOPMAN/KLAPMAN,(Silmalas, Latvia). SHILLMAN and
BENSON (Krustpils, Latvia), MIRRELSON (Kurshan, Courland, Latvia) , BREST
(Bauska, Latvia) , ORKIN (Zagere, Lithuania) CHAVIN and CHEIN (Zagare,
Lithuania)


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: S.AFRICAN CEMETERIES #southafrica

Anne BREST <digitalphoto@...>
 

Hallo South African Siggers

Adrian, you wrote - "I am trying to get family details off tombstones in
South Africa,
and was informed that all records prior to 1960 have been buried by
the Hevra Kadisha".

My reply - The only thing which has been "buried" by the South African
Chevra Kadisha are the deceased themselves.

All records are preserved, and meticulously so, and are available on both
computerized sheets, and the "original" register which can be viewed.

I speak for all three cemeteries in Johannesburg (and Im pretty sure the
same applies to all S.AFrica cemeteries). There are records for the
earliest one "Braamfontein" and then "Brixton" and the current cemetery
"WestPark".

This information contains the name and surname of the deceased, and date of
death, and location of grave . It does not contain the name of the
deceaseds' parents or family or any other info. Graves do need to be looked
at.

You did mention Dublin. I presume you mean Dublin, Ireland?? I can help
you there as I have access to information about Irish graves and who is
buried in them.

I also know a girl >from SA, now living in the US (the Valley, Los Angeles)
whose maiden name was DWOLATSKY and I could put you in touch with her. for
that info, please reply privately.

CHAG SAMEACH to you all. It rained for most of the beginning part of Succos
in Jhb/Sandton area and everyone was washed right out of their respective
Sukkah s.

Anne Lapedus BREST (ex Dublin, Ireland) Sandton, South Africa
RESEARCHING - LAPEDUS and KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania). MARCUS and FELDMAN
(Ackmene, Lithuania), KLOPMAN/KLAPMAN,(Silmalas, Latvia). SHILLMAN and
BENSON (Krustpils, Latvia), MIRRELSON (Kurshan, Courland, Latvia) , BREST
(Bauska, Latvia) , ORKIN (Zagere, Lithuania) CHAVIN and CHEIN (Zagare,
Lithuania)


Harry RUDERMAN; Sarah (Eske) COHEN/Jacob COHEN #general

lizdmiller@...
 

My newly found family members and I have pin-pointed our ancestors' shtetl as
Kraisk/Kraysk (even spelled Kriesk), Vileika, Vilna between the years 1875 - 1912.
Luckily, Efraim RUDERMAN(Abe) and Schosse Ruderman(Sophie)'s ships records idendify
Kraisk. Ester Ruderman KASDIN's town is spelled Kreisk. My grandfather Morris
Ruderman's Petition for Naturalization is misspelled Graisk. Unfortunately, I can
not find his immigration to US, which is said was 4/17/1900 on Bulgaria (or
definitely a ship that sounds like).

As for the 5th sibling, Harry Ruderman, I don't know the Yiddish name by which he
entered the country or the exact year. However, I just found a US WWII Draft
Refistration Card, 1942, which says the following:

Serial 624 Harry Ruderman,144 Blake Ave.Brooklyn, NY,Age 60
***Place of birth Krisk***

Mrs. ? Ruderman, person always at address employer: SALTZMAN
emp address: 129 or 729 Blake Ave, Brooklyn, NY

I can not match any census data with this information to determine his wife's name
and date of immigration. I certainly believe that Krisk (hopefully) is Kraisk!

Matching names to immigration is SO difficult! Harry and Morris(Moshe) are the
final 2 Ruderman family members I would like to find immigration records
for. Does anyone have suggestions?
___________________________

Morris(Moshe)Ruderman's wife, Eske(e)(Sarah) Cohen and her brother, Jacob (later
called Jack)are said to have immigrated in 1898. I have tried several variants,
with no success. The first records I located are the 1910 census for Sullivan Cty,
NY, were Sarah and Morris had their 3 children, and Jacob (incorrectly labeled
nephew, was living with them. With so many Jacob Cohen variants, I am confused.
Sarah and Jacob had 2 sisters - Eleanor immigrated later, I know and I don't have
the other sister's given name. The unknown sister married a Wasserman in NYC @
1918-1920. They had 2 daughters, Blossom and Sylvia.

Again, if anyone has suggestions on finding immigrant records for Eske(Sarah)Cohen,
brother, Jacob and another sister, I would be grateful.

The Cohens may also be >from Kraisk or somewhere nearby,

Most Sincerely,

Liz Ruderman Miller
Northridge, CA

Searching for: Ruderman(Belarus or Lithuania); Cohen(Belarus or Lithuania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Harry RUDERMAN; Sarah (Eske) COHEN/Jacob COHEN #general

lizdmiller@...
 

My newly found family members and I have pin-pointed our ancestors' shtetl as
Kraisk/Kraysk (even spelled Kriesk), Vileika, Vilna between the years 1875 - 1912.
Luckily, Efraim RUDERMAN(Abe) and Schosse Ruderman(Sophie)'s ships records idendify
Kraisk. Ester Ruderman KASDIN's town is spelled Kreisk. My grandfather Morris
Ruderman's Petition for Naturalization is misspelled Graisk. Unfortunately, I can
not find his immigration to US, which is said was 4/17/1900 on Bulgaria (or
definitely a ship that sounds like).

As for the 5th sibling, Harry Ruderman, I don't know the Yiddish name by which he
entered the country or the exact year. However, I just found a US WWII Draft
Refistration Card, 1942, which says the following:

Serial 624 Harry Ruderman,144 Blake Ave.Brooklyn, NY,Age 60
***Place of birth Krisk***

Mrs. ? Ruderman, person always at address employer: SALTZMAN
emp address: 129 or 729 Blake Ave, Brooklyn, NY

I can not match any census data with this information to determine his wife's name
and date of immigration. I certainly believe that Krisk (hopefully) is Kraisk!

Matching names to immigration is SO difficult! Harry and Morris(Moshe) are the
final 2 Ruderman family members I would like to find immigration records
for. Does anyone have suggestions?
___________________________

Morris(Moshe)Ruderman's wife, Eske(e)(Sarah) Cohen and her brother, Jacob (later
called Jack)are said to have immigrated in 1898. I have tried several variants,
with no success. The first records I located are the 1910 census for Sullivan Cty,
NY, were Sarah and Morris had their 3 children, and Jacob (incorrectly labeled
nephew, was living with them. With so many Jacob Cohen variants, I am confused.
Sarah and Jacob had 2 sisters - Eleanor immigrated later, I know and I don't have
the other sister's given name. The unknown sister married a Wasserman in NYC @
1918-1920. They had 2 daughters, Blossom and Sylvia.

Again, if anyone has suggestions on finding immigrant records for Eske(Sarah)Cohen,
brother, Jacob and another sister, I would be grateful.

The Cohens may also be >from Kraisk or somewhere nearby,

Most Sincerely,

Liz Ruderman Miller
Northridge, CA

Searching for: Ruderman(Belarus or Lithuania); Cohen(Belarus or Lithuania)


WAJSENBERG #general

mark
 

Dear Genners.
Please, need help to contact Mr. Jakov DAVIDSON >from Quebec, his adress was
XXXX Wavell, Cote-St-Luc. Quebec. I got information, that he can help
me in my search of WAJSENBERG family >from Zelechow, Warsaw.
Best wishes
Shana Tova
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WAJSENBERG #general

mark
 

Dear Genners.
Please, need help to contact Mr. Jakov DAVIDSON >from Quebec, his adress was
XXXX Wavell, Cote-St-Luc. Quebec. I got information, that he can help
me in my search of WAJSENBERG family >from Zelechow, Warsaw.
Best wishes
Shana Tova
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net

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Siberian Jewry #general

Avraham <435.gavea@...>
 

Hi,

I wonder if anybody has ever researched Siberian Jewry or can give me a
direction for such information.

Thanks, and
Chag Sameach.

Avraham Yehoshua Kahana
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Siberian Jewry #general

Avraham <435.gavea@...>
 

Hi,

I wonder if anybody has ever researched Siberian Jewry or can give me a
direction for such information.

Thanks, and
Chag Sameach.

Avraham Yehoshua Kahana
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil


Warsaw guide needed #general

susan keller <zu55@...>
 

I am going to be in Warsaw fron October 23 to 27. I want to ask you if you know a
Jewish guide there. I will be waiting for your answer.
Thank you
Susana Keller
susanakeller1@yahoo.com.mx

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Re: understanding my gg grandfather's name #general

AIDA <atedege@...>
 

Anita Rosan ARKIN wrote on 27 Sep 2007:
"My ggrandmother's tombstone says Sarah the daughter of Eli the Cohen...her maiden
name is given as Sara POLLACK. Was his name Eli COHEN? If not, what is the
significance of 'the Cohen'?"

No, you gggfather's name was Eli Pollack and according to his daughter's gravestone
he was descended >from Aaron the Cohen (priest), brother of Moses (Moshe Rabbenu).

The Cohen line of descent, together with the Levi and the Israel lines, have been
maintained till today and only apply to males; there is no such thing as a female
Cohen (or Levi, or Israel, for that matter).

Apparently Cohanic descent is reflected genetically and passed on >from father to
son via the Y-gene. Scientists tell us that it *precedes* the Ashkenaz-Sefarad
split up. Fascinating! Please visit

http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/jewish_genes.htm

Regards,
Aida Rauch Belgium


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Warsaw guide needed #general

susan keller <zu55@...>
 

I am going to be in Warsaw fron October 23 to 27. I want to ask you if you know a
Jewish guide there. I will be waiting for your answer.
Thank you
Susana Keller
susanakeller1@yahoo.com.mx

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: understanding my gg grandfather's name #general

AIDA <atedege@...>
 

Anita Rosan ARKIN wrote on 27 Sep 2007:
"My ggrandmother's tombstone says Sarah the daughter of Eli the Cohen...her maiden
name is given as Sara POLLACK. Was his name Eli COHEN? If not, what is the
significance of 'the Cohen'?"

No, you gggfather's name was Eli Pollack and according to his daughter's gravestone
he was descended >from Aaron the Cohen (priest), brother of Moses (Moshe Rabbenu).

The Cohen line of descent, together with the Levi and the Israel lines, have been
maintained till today and only apply to males; there is no such thing as a female
Cohen (or Levi, or Israel, for that matter).

Apparently Cohanic descent is reflected genetically and passed on >from father to
son via the Y-gene. Scientists tell us that it *precedes* the Ashkenaz-Sefarad
split up. Fascinating! Please visit

http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/jewish_genes.htm

Regards,
Aida Rauch Belgium


1837 Zemplen Census #hungary

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

The 1837 Zemplen Census with some 900 names appears in the Hungary
section of Hsig(xls format).(Kudos to the author--who?)

However when I searched for the name Elefant in the AHD there was no
record. Was the census incorporated in the AHD?

Alex Miller PA


"Fin Minkacs to 'Judapest'" #hungary

Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
 

A friend in Novi Sad, Serbia, sent me this link to a pdf of the
PowerPoint that accompanied a lecture last year at Central European
University in Budapest by Prof. Rudolf Klein of the architecture
school of Tel Aviv University, entitled "Fin Minkacs to 'Judapest':
Jews and Their Synagogues in 19th Century Hungary":

http://www.ceu.hu/jewishstudies/rkleinlect0506.pdf

The show is primarily on the architecture of synagogues in Hungary,
and is lavishly illustrated. Toward the end it includes street plans
of several Hungarian cities, as well as the Ringstrasse in Vienna,
showing the distribution of the Jewish community in each city.
There's not much detail, but this could be a useful addition to more
detailed street maps, providing some context if you have an ancestor's
address.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA