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More early UK Immigration/Voyage Lists - preliminary *free* research steps #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I was delighted to be the herald to Jewish genners of the arrival of the new UK
Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 and to point to the small print, thereby
highlighting how these lists could be of use to many of us in our research.
Apparently this database can be accessed for free at many public libraries in
the USA [but unfortunately not in many other countries including Israel].

I am also a great believer in genealogical freebies and disseminating data on
these for all to use, so I am happy to tell you that there is another database
which can also be of considerable use in investigating early {and eventually
later} immigration and voyages into the UK. That list is the Hamburg Passenger
Lists, 1850-1934 (in German): http://tinyurl.com/59sgfk

The small print tells us that only the years 1890-1913 have been indexed so far, but all of the images for 1850-1934 are available {there are Handwritten Indexes, 1855-1934 - which I cannot access unfortunately}.

There are many family-specific postings about this database in the SIG and Discussion Group archives, but none, as far as I can see, gives the sort of guidance I have worked out for you below. For most of us, listing passengers on a specific ship is not of much use - we need searching methodology, so we can do it ourselves.

1. Just enter London as the port of destination
2. Try Lemb* as a family name - you get 302 hits
3. Then try Lemb* as a family name plus London as a port of arrival -
you get 14 hits. Hence I assume these got off at London; they all appear to be
Jewish. But did they stay?
4. Refine the dates - 1900 +/- 10: you still find 14
5. Refine the dates - 1900 +/-5: you still find 14
6 Refine the dates - 1900 +/- 2: you now find 11 and Grimsby pops up - so we
can proceed further with London and also with Grimsby.

There are 87 interesting Schon* arriving in London between 1900 +/-5.
You can all think of names to test out. Avoid whole name and use wild card
searches for best results to circumvent the spelling pitfalls.

Residence *Kovno* - port of arrival *London* gives you 75 names.
Grimsby shows 2,996 arrivals by name between 1898 and 1902. Now you too can
all play around with other parameters and other ports. Glasgow appear to be linked to Grimsby.

Please try out Lita* as residence and leave the "name field" blank.
It reveals many interesting places, but sadly few passengers got off in the
UK. I also have nine men [you can change the search gender easily] arriving
in London >from Krakow; dozens >from Lemberg - also plenty arriving >from Riga
to Grimsby and London etc etc - so who needs Sudoku?

By an amazing stroke of luck, I found an unknown trip in 1906 [date obtained
by trial and error] of my grandfather's cousin and his wife >from Vienna for
whom I wrote POTs on Yad vashem: Flora BIACH {nee SCHIFFMANN} - port Ostasien
and Philipp BIACH port - Ostasien >from Wien, Osterreich

from this entry, I know that Wien was used and Osterreich with an umlaut. So
we have more clues to help our freebie search. I then tested the site, which
does not appear to be umlaut or case-sensitive, but this needs more research
with many family names.

Ultimately, there is a lot you can find without paying, but when it comes to
the nitty-gritty and you want to see the whole manifest/index, you will have
to fork out some cash or find a free library!

Whether these voyagers actually stayed in the UK is another research project.
Sorry, but I have no time now for more freebies and there are plenty around -
I have to rush out and get a/some pamula{s}, as sabbath approaches.

Celia Male - London, U.K.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More early UK Immigration/Voyage Lists - preliminary *free* research steps #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I was delighted to be the herald to Jewish genners of the arrival of the new UK
Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 and to point to the small print, thereby
highlighting how these lists could be of use to many of us in our research.
Apparently this database can be accessed for free at many public libraries in
the USA [but unfortunately not in many other countries including Israel].

I am also a great believer in genealogical freebies and disseminating data on
these for all to use, so I am happy to tell you that there is another database
which can also be of considerable use in investigating early {and eventually
later} immigration and voyages into the UK. That list is the Hamburg Passenger
Lists, 1850-1934 (in German): http://tinyurl.com/59sgfk

The small print tells us that only the years 1890-1913 have been indexed so far, but all of the images for 1850-1934 are available {there are Handwritten Indexes, 1855-1934 - which I cannot access unfortunately}.

There are many family-specific postings about this database in the SIG and Discussion Group archives, but none, as far as I can see, gives the sort of guidance I have worked out for you below. For most of us, listing passengers on a specific ship is not of much use - we need searching methodology, so we can do it ourselves.

1. Just enter London as the port of destination
2. Try Lemb* as a family name - you get 302 hits
3. Then try Lemb* as a family name plus London as a port of arrival -
you get 14 hits. Hence I assume these got off at London; they all appear to be
Jewish. But did they stay?
4. Refine the dates - 1900 +/- 10: you still find 14
5. Refine the dates - 1900 +/-5: you still find 14
6 Refine the dates - 1900 +/- 2: you now find 11 and Grimsby pops up - so we
can proceed further with London and also with Grimsby.

There are 87 interesting Schon* arriving in London between 1900 +/-5.
You can all think of names to test out. Avoid whole name and use wild card
searches for best results to circumvent the spelling pitfalls.

Residence *Kovno* - port of arrival *London* gives you 75 names.
Grimsby shows 2,996 arrivals by name between 1898 and 1902. Now you too can
all play around with other parameters and other ports. Glasgow appear to be linked to Grimsby.

Please try out Lita* as residence and leave the "name field" blank.
It reveals many interesting places, but sadly few passengers got off in the
UK. I also have nine men [you can change the search gender easily] arriving
in London >from Krakow; dozens >from Lemberg - also plenty arriving >from Riga
to Grimsby and London etc etc - so who needs Sudoku?

By an amazing stroke of luck, I found an unknown trip in 1906 [date obtained
by trial and error] of my grandfather's cousin and his wife >from Vienna for
whom I wrote POTs on Yad vashem: Flora BIACH {nee SCHIFFMANN} - port Ostasien
and Philipp BIACH port - Ostasien >from Wien, Osterreich

from this entry, I know that Wien was used and Osterreich with an umlaut. So
we have more clues to help our freebie search. I then tested the site, which
does not appear to be umlaut or case-sensitive, but this needs more research
with many family names.

Ultimately, there is a lot you can find without paying, but when it comes to
the nitty-gritty and you want to see the whole manifest/index, you will have
to fork out some cash or find a free library!

Whether these voyagers actually stayed in the UK is another research project.
Sorry, but I have no time now for more freebies and there are plenty around -
I have to rush out and get a/some pamula{s}, as sabbath approaches.

Celia Male - London, U.K.


Seer of Lublin: SZTERNFELD? #rabbinic

Lawrence Litwin <theslice@...>
 

Dear Rabbinic Sig.

I came into some information last night regarding the Chozeh Mi
Lublin. The Seer of Lublin. Yakov Yitzhak HOROWITZ. Apparently he
was also known in the halls of records by SZTERNFELD. This is
probably known to many but was brand new information to me. Are
there any records discussing SZTERNFELD?

Thanks.
Lawrence Litwin.
Montreal Quebec Canada

Searching: Horowitz, Szternfeld, Engelsberg, Kuhn, Singer, Litwin,
Gelb, Fogel Romania, Bellarussia, Poland


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Seer of Lublin: SZTERNFELD? #rabbinic

Lawrence Litwin <theslice@...>
 

Dear Rabbinic Sig.

I came into some information last night regarding the Chozeh Mi
Lublin. The Seer of Lublin. Yakov Yitzhak HOROWITZ. Apparently he
was also known in the halls of records by SZTERNFELD. This is
probably known to many but was brand new information to me. Are
there any records discussing SZTERNFELD?

Thanks.
Lawrence Litwin.
Montreal Quebec Canada

Searching: Horowitz, Szternfeld, Engelsberg, Kuhn, Singer, Litwin,
Gelb, Fogel Romania, Bellarussia, Poland


FW: LAZARUS & ORGIN - LONDON & LIVERPOOL #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

Since posting about Hannah nee LAZARUS and Jack ORGIN,
I have further information to add.

In 1891, Marks (born c.1860) and Sarah (born c.1863)
LAZARUS were living in 181 Hanbury Street, Mile End
with their young children. Sarah's maiden name was
FELDMAN.

By 1901, they were living at 29 Cecil Street,
Edge Hill, West Derby, Liverpool, with their
children Hannah/Annie b.1886, Esther born
c.1889, Morris/Marks b.1891, Samuel b.1896 and
Rose b.1899.

I am not sure when the family returned to the
East End, however, Hannah married Jack ORGIN there in
1913, and her parents were living with Hannah and
her sons, Joe and Woolfe, in Bethnal Green, 1927.

The ORGIN surname has also been spelt as OGIN,
OGGIN, ORGAN, ORGEN and HOGGEN.
There are OGINSKI's in Liverpool and London,
some shortening the surname to OGIN. I am not
yet sure if these families are related.

Please contact me on a1steve@bigpond.com if these
names are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON,
GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY, ALTERESCO


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FW: LAZARUS & ORGIN - LONDON & LIVERPOOL #unitedkingdom

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

Since posting about Hannah nee LAZARUS and Jack ORGIN,
I have further information to add.

In 1891, Marks (born c.1860) and Sarah (born c.1863)
LAZARUS were living in 181 Hanbury Street, Mile End
with their young children. Sarah's maiden name was
FELDMAN.

By 1901, they were living at 29 Cecil Street,
Edge Hill, West Derby, Liverpool, with their
children Hannah/Annie b.1886, Esther born
c.1889, Morris/Marks b.1891, Samuel b.1896 and
Rose b.1899.

I am not sure when the family returned to the
East End, however, Hannah married Jack ORGIN there in
1913, and her parents were living with Hannah and
her sons, Joe and Woolfe, in Bethnal Green, 1927.

The ORGIN surname has also been spelt as OGIN,
OGGIN, ORGAN, ORGEN and HOGGEN.
There are OGINSKI's in Liverpool and London,
some shortening the surname to OGIN. I am not
yet sure if these families are related.

Please contact me on a1steve@bigpond.com if these
names are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON,
GOLDWITZ, HIATT, HUNT, HARYUDA, CHERNOSKY, ALTERESCO


Re: Confidentiality of Tree Information #general

Lancy
 

If the purpose of putting your tree on line is purely genealogical, you
would solve the problem by including only the deceased.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel

What is the appropriate protocol?
Harold Fineberg (London UK)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Confidentiality of Tree Information #general

Lancy
 

If the purpose of putting your tree on line is purely genealogical, you
would solve the problem by including only the deceased.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel

What is the appropriate protocol?
Harold Fineberg (London UK)


Re: Confidentiality of family tree #general

Nick <tulse04-news1@...>
 

A creator of a family tree has a responsibility to the other members of the
family that have supplied the creator with personal information. The creator
can choose whether or not to publish information about themselves. Other
living people on the tree should also have that choice about publication.

For this reason when I supply family trees to people who are not fairly
closely related to me, I restrict the information that I supply about living
individuals.

In one instance, I removed details of living individuals when sending a
family tree.

I would reverse the argument - what is the need to have the details of
living individuals in a published family tree?

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Confidentiality of family tree #general

Nick <tulse04-news1@...>
 

A creator of a family tree has a responsibility to the other members of the
family that have supplied the creator with personal information. The creator
can choose whether or not to publish information about themselves. Other
living people on the tree should also have that choice about publication.

For this reason when I supply family trees to people who are not fairly
closely related to me, I restrict the information that I supply about living
individuals.

In one instance, I removed details of living individuals when sending a
family tree.

I would reverse the argument - what is the need to have the details of
living individuals in a published family tree?

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Jon Entine to speak at JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County November 10 #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Meeting: JGS of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)

Program: Jon Entine: "Abraham's Children: Race, Identity and the DNA of the
ChosenPeople"
In Abraham's Children, author Jon Entine uses the latest DNA technology to
reconstruct genealogical trees, examining the origins of many diseases.

Date: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m. Temple Adat Elohim.
Note different day of week and time for meeting.

For more information regarding the meeting, including directions to the location,
visit our website, www.JGSCV.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jon Entine to speak at JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County November 10 #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Meeting: JGS of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)

Program: Jon Entine: "Abraham's Children: Race, Identity and the DNA of the
ChosenPeople"
In Abraham's Children, author Jon Entine uses the latest DNA technology to
reconstruct genealogical trees, examining the origins of many diseases.

Date: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m. Temple Adat Elohim.
Note different day of week and time for meeting.

For more information regarding the meeting, including directions to the location,
visit our website, www.JGSCV.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


JGS of Greater Philadelphia - November 2008 Meeting #general

Lois Sernoff
 

JGS of Greater Philadelphia - November 2008 Meeting

Date: Monday, November 10, 2008
Time: 7:30 PM
Place: Reform Congregation Keneseth Israel
8339 Old York Road intersection of Old York Road (Route 611)
at Township Line (Route 73) Elkins Park, PA 19027

Topic: A Hands-On Workshop -- Genealogy Software
Overview and Demonstrations of Various Family Tree Programs
by JGSGP Members

For further information on this and the meetings of our South Jersey
and Delaware County affiliates please visit:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp/

Lois Sernoff [JGSGPhila.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Greater Philadelphia - November 2008 Meeting #general

Lois Sernoff
 

JGS of Greater Philadelphia - November 2008 Meeting

Date: Monday, November 10, 2008
Time: 7:30 PM
Place: Reform Congregation Keneseth Israel
8339 Old York Road intersection of Old York Road (Route 611)
at Township Line (Route 73) Elkins Park, PA 19027

Topic: A Hands-On Workshop -- Genealogy Software
Overview and Demonstrations of Various Family Tree Programs
by JGSGP Members

For further information on this and the meetings of our South Jersey
and Delaware County affiliates please visit:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp/

Lois Sernoff [JGSGPhila.]


looking for information about Ester Chana Schwartz who moved to London #unitedkingdom

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

I am trying to obtain more information for an elderly relative about her grandmother. Ester Chana (known as Annie) bas Shlomo (married name SCHWARTZ) died on December 24th 1952. She was buried in Edmonton (Plot S19). She was a member of the Machzikei Hadass Synagogue in the East End for most of her adult life, initially with husband Nechemia (Hyman) SCHWARTZ and continued to regularly attend services following his early death. After arriving in the UK in 1913, she lived at 96 Rothschild Buildings, E1. It appears she was born in Kiev although her husband is >from neighbouring Belaya Tserkov.

While she was poor herself, having lost her husband and three sons in early life, Ester Chana was a giving woman who spent all her money on helping others who might be more needy. Whenever either of her daughters gave her money, it immediately went to the poor. Every Shabbes she would open her doors to the community even through she had a very meagre income. It is said that when her funeral cortège stopped opposite the shul, the shul doors were opened out of respect for her generosity and her way of helping the community.

Her maiden name does not appear on her grave; nor does it appear on the register in the cemetery; Is there any other way of obtaining her maiden name?
Given that the couple married in Russia, is it likely that their synagogue membership in the UK contain any information about their marriage?
Is it likely that the her synagogue membership record (or her husband's) will say where she was >from and give her maiden name? Are the shul membership records available to researchers?

Any help would greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Professor Darren Dalcher
London, UK


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom looking for information about Ester Chana Schwartz who moved to London #unitedkingdom

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

I am trying to obtain more information for an elderly relative about her grandmother. Ester Chana (known as Annie) bas Shlomo (married name SCHWARTZ) died on December 24th 1952. She was buried in Edmonton (Plot S19). She was a member of the Machzikei Hadass Synagogue in the East End for most of her adult life, initially with husband Nechemia (Hyman) SCHWARTZ and continued to regularly attend services following his early death. After arriving in the UK in 1913, she lived at 96 Rothschild Buildings, E1. It appears she was born in Kiev although her husband is >from neighbouring Belaya Tserkov.

While she was poor herself, having lost her husband and three sons in early life, Ester Chana was a giving woman who spent all her money on helping others who might be more needy. Whenever either of her daughters gave her money, it immediately went to the poor. Every Shabbes she would open her doors to the community even through she had a very meagre income. It is said that when her funeral cortège stopped opposite the shul, the shul doors were opened out of respect for her generosity and her way of helping the community.

Her maiden name does not appear on her grave; nor does it appear on the register in the cemetery; Is there any other way of obtaining her maiden name?
Given that the couple married in Russia, is it likely that their synagogue membership in the UK contain any information about their marriage?
Is it likely that the her synagogue membership record (or her husband's) will say where she was >from and give her maiden name? Are the shul membership records available to researchers?

Any help would greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Professor Darren Dalcher
London, UK


Spiegel (amd subject lines) #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 5:38:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_panthersfan27@aol.com_ (mailto:panthersfan27@aol.com) writes:
<< I recently discovered that my great-great grandfather Abram Speigel
(original surname unknown, possibly Moscovic?) had at least two . . .>>

Hi! Welcome to Jewishgen and the bonds of an addictive activity.

I assume you're new here. We're all looking for relatives hear, so
your subject line does not do you much help. Subject lines are
designed to guide other members of the group in getting to read
your posting (some of us get 100 messages a day and have to be
quite selective in what we read and what we discard.

If you'd have written: "Speigel brothers, London & USA, married
wives named Goldstein and Freedman." you might get a much better
response >from those who know. Your subject line is your show
window in which to display the wares you want to trade. Make it
attract the right members of our public.

The spelling of the Speigel surname is unusual. The common
spelling is Spiegel, originally pronounced Shpeegel. Spiegel is
the German word for mirror. The Spiegels were generally mirror
makers in the old country, a generally lucrative trade, well respected.

I suggest that in your search you also pay attention to the Spiegel
spelling. Some of your relatives may have been listed under that
name at times. Also, check out mirror makers/merchants in the old
country and in London.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Spiegel (amd subject lines) #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/27/2008 5:38:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_panthersfan27@aol.com_ (mailto:panthersfan27@aol.com) writes:
<< I recently discovered that my great-great grandfather Abram Speigel
(original surname unknown, possibly Moscovic?) had at least two . . .>>

Hi! Welcome to Jewishgen and the bonds of an addictive activity.

I assume you're new here. We're all looking for relatives hear, so
your subject line does not do you much help. Subject lines are
designed to guide other members of the group in getting to read
your posting (some of us get 100 messages a day and have to be
quite selective in what we read and what we discard.

If you'd have written: "Speigel brothers, London & USA, married
wives named Goldstein and Freedman." you might get a much better
response >from those who know. Your subject line is your show
window in which to display the wares you want to trade. Make it
attract the right members of our public.

The spelling of the Speigel surname is unusual. The common
spelling is Spiegel, originally pronounced Shpeegel. Spiegel is
the German word for mirror. The Spiegels were generally mirror
makers in the old country, a generally lucrative trade, well respected.

I suggest that in your search you also pay attention to the Spiegel
spelling. Some of your relatives may have been listed under that
name at times. Also, check out mirror makers/merchants in the old
country and in London.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


Sharing personal information about about living family members #general

Gloria Bailey <gab123@...>
 

As others have mentioned, we did have a discussion of this issue in the
past.

I would just like to say that my preference is that people not share enough
information about living people that identity theft could occur. (Here in
the US it is mother's maiden name, date of birth, social security number and
city of birth that are often used to steal an identity).

In my own case, before widespread posting on the Internet was an option, I
shared information with a researcher who I now do not believe is actually
related to me. Nevertheless, he has appended all of my family information
to his family tree and then, (the part that upsets me) he has shared it with
others and has posted it online in several online family trees. He has
posted all my family including my estimates on birth dates and death dates,
my errors, etc. I have requested numerous times that this be removed >from
the Internet, but in the last few weeks I came upon this information again
while doing a search. Again I contacted the researcher to please remove
this information but he has not responded.

I now share information only on deceased people for the most part. In other
cases, where a close relative (cousin, 2nd cousin whom I know the family
of) requests information, I share information on their line first and as I
get to know how they treat privacy issues I am willing to share more. This
policy has worked much better for me, but I can't undo the error I made in
the early 1990's when I did share my whole database with a researcher.

So, I appreciate Harold's thoughts on this subject and I want to warn
everyone about sharing even one on one because unless you know they won't
publish such information online, it is the same as publishing it yourself.

Gloria AULETTA Bailey,
searching for OSHEROWITZ, OSHER,
and GINSBEG/GINSBURG in Romanova or Slutsk and SCHILDKRAUT in Pagost

<Given the amount of personal information contained on a family tree and
today's concerns about identity theft etc. what is the general view about passing
such information to others, even if only to members of the family. Once one has
forwarded such information, they, unthinkingly may pass it on again in an
uncontrolled way.

I believe I once read on this, or a similar forum, that putting family trees
into the public domain (not quite the same as the above scenario) would require
the agreement of all living people on the tree. Although a daunting task I can
at least understand the thinking behind that.

What is the appropriate protocol?

Thank you,

Harold Fineberg (London UK)


Re: Confidentiality of family tree #general

Scott Schultz <scottaschultz@...>
 

Dear Lois,

I can appreciate the fact that you feel that you have somehow been violated,
but I have to ask, have you or any member of your family suffered any actual
harm or damage as a result of this information being made public? If not,
exactly what kind of recourse do you want?

I am not a lawyer, but I would tend to think that if no harm has been done,
you will have a very difficult time collecting any damages >from these people
unless you can prove that the information had been copyrighted.

Scott Schultz
Researcher ID #188546

From: "Lois Levick" <loisl637@comcast.net>


I agree with the previous Genner who is concerned about the sharing of
one's information with another researcher and then finding it published
without your permission.
I have had that experience when I shared information about a part of my
family with someone who has absolutely nothing to do with it because we
were talking about something we did have in common. That person has not
only made this information public but has passed it on to someone else who
has published it as well.
Is there any recourse?