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Re: Maiden Names/19th century Poland #general

Peregrine Maitland <peregrine@...>
 

I ran up against a similar situation with my family.

In the U.S. in the early 20th century, my grandmother's maiden name was
given on the birth records of her children---my mother, uncles and
aunts---as variously WASSNER and LIPPER. It wasn't until 2003 when I went to
Poland to visit the town of her birth and saw the actual birth record that
the mystery was resolved, for until then neither my mother nor her siblings
hadn't quite known what to make of the two maiden names.

As with most Jewish marriages there was no civil record of the
religious-sanctioned marriage of my great grandparents in this town in 19th
century Galician Austria-Hungary. As a result, the name of my grandmother's
father was not listed in the birth record at the time of her birth.

For the first 16 years of her life, the official town record listed her
surname as that of her mother. It wasn't until her 16th year, just before
she left for the United States in 1903 that her birth record was
amended---under a law then in existence sanctioning such changes---noting
the paternity of her father and adding his name to the official record of
her birth.

It is probable that such things were commonplace among Jewish families of
the time.

Peregrine Maitland

Sharon Zane wrote

I am hoping someone can come up with a plausible explanation for the
following:

When my grandmother was married in NYC, she listed her mother's maiden
name as Rochla Zacharek nee SHNITZLER.
When my grandmother died in NYC, the informant (presumably my father)
told the official, when asked for my grandmother's mother's maiden
name, Rochel Zacharek nee SCHNIZER.

This seems fine; the surnames are close enough.

BUT: On all documents I've obtained >from Poland my great-
grandmother's three sons's birth records, and her own death record--
she is listed as Ruchla Zacharek nee FELMAN. So, one would presume her
maiden name was FELMAN, not SCHNIZER or some variant thereof.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Maiden Names/19th century Poland #general

Peregrine Maitland <peregrine@...>
 

I ran up against a similar situation with my family.

In the U.S. in the early 20th century, my grandmother's maiden name was
given on the birth records of her children---my mother, uncles and
aunts---as variously WASSNER and LIPPER. It wasn't until 2003 when I went to
Poland to visit the town of her birth and saw the actual birth record that
the mystery was resolved, for until then neither my mother nor her siblings
hadn't quite known what to make of the two maiden names.

As with most Jewish marriages there was no civil record of the
religious-sanctioned marriage of my great grandparents in this town in 19th
century Galician Austria-Hungary. As a result, the name of my grandmother's
father was not listed in the birth record at the time of her birth.

For the first 16 years of her life, the official town record listed her
surname as that of her mother. It wasn't until her 16th year, just before
she left for the United States in 1903 that her birth record was
amended---under a law then in existence sanctioning such changes---noting
the paternity of her father and adding his name to the official record of
her birth.

It is probable that such things were commonplace among Jewish families of
the time.

Peregrine Maitland

Sharon Zane wrote

I am hoping someone can come up with a plausible explanation for the
following:

When my grandmother was married in NYC, she listed her mother's maiden
name as Rochla Zacharek nee SHNITZLER.
When my grandmother died in NYC, the informant (presumably my father)
told the official, when asked for my grandmother's mother's maiden
name, Rochel Zacharek nee SCHNIZER.

This seems fine; the surnames are close enough.

BUT: On all documents I've obtained >from Poland my great-
grandmother's three sons's birth records, and her own death record--
she is listed as Ruchla Zacharek nee FELMAN. So, one would presume her
maiden name was FELMAN, not SCHNIZER or some variant thereof.


Sephardic lines in today's Spain #sephardic

Kim Prez
 

I am searching Sephardic lines in noble families of Spain. Yhere
are very much: Santa Maria, Santangel, Coronel, Enriquez (descendants
of Paloma of Toledo), Cabrera (>from Cuenca), Bernuy (I descend >from
Diego de Bernuy, who was condemned in 1492 as crypto Jew) etc. It is
easier than other researchs because these lines are well established
in their Converso section, even if it remains difficult to find the
prior Jew generations.

In my blog http://jnrj.blogspot.com , in Spanish, there are parts
named "Raiz Judia de Espana" (Spain's Jewish Roots) where I have
placed some of these lines.

Kim Perez


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Sephardic lines in today's Spain #sephardic

Kim Prez
 

I am searching Sephardic lines in noble families of Spain. Yhere
are very much: Santa Maria, Santangel, Coronel, Enriquez (descendants
of Paloma of Toledo), Cabrera (>from Cuenca), Bernuy (I descend >from
Diego de Bernuy, who was condemned in 1492 as crypto Jew) etc. It is
easier than other researchs because these lines are well established
in their Converso section, even if it remains difficult to find the
prior Jew generations.

In my blog http://jnrj.blogspot.com , in Spanish, there are parts
named "Raiz Judia de Espana" (Spain's Jewish Roots) where I have
placed some of these lines.

Kim Perez


Re: Cemetery in Zhlobin / Belarus #general

Susan
 

Dr. Michael Lozman, a New York State dentist, started a project a few
years ago to restore neglected Jewish cemeteries in Belarus. He
started with one of his ancestral places. One of those chosen was
Vselyub, where my maternal grandfather's family lived. There is some
information at Jewish.gen and other articles available online.

Susan Silberstein

At 03:51 AM 12/16/2008, Carmel Ravid wrote:
Hi,

I couldn't find any information about the old (prior WWII) Jewish
cemetery in Zhlobin/Belarus.

I heard that there is some project that deals with recovering old
Jewish cemeteries in Belarus but I have no idea if Zhlobin is in the
list.

I'll be grateful to get any available information about it.

Thank you.

Carmel Ravid
Israel

Researching:
RABINOVICH, MARGOLIN - Zhlobin, Belarus ASTRACHAN, PERTSOVSKI / PERCOWSKY -
Khoiniky and Pinsk, Belarus TARSHISH - Bobruysk, Belarus BERLIN -
Rozhany, Belarus
DOLGITZER / DOLGICER - Riga, Latvia / Vitebsk, Belarus MALKIMAN -
Letichev and
Mikhalpol, Ukraine PELMAN - Russia PSHISOSKI - Rzesz, Poland
LEVI - Russia and Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cemetery in Zhlobin / Belarus #general

Susan
 

Dr. Michael Lozman, a New York State dentist, started a project a few
years ago to restore neglected Jewish cemeteries in Belarus. He
started with one of his ancestral places. One of those chosen was
Vselyub, where my maternal grandfather's family lived. There is some
information at Jewish.gen and other articles available online.

Susan Silberstein

At 03:51 AM 12/16/2008, Carmel Ravid wrote:
Hi,

I couldn't find any information about the old (prior WWII) Jewish
cemetery in Zhlobin/Belarus.

I heard that there is some project that deals with recovering old
Jewish cemeteries in Belarus but I have no idea if Zhlobin is in the
list.

I'll be grateful to get any available information about it.

Thank you.

Carmel Ravid
Israel

Researching:
RABINOVICH, MARGOLIN - Zhlobin, Belarus ASTRACHAN, PERTSOVSKI / PERCOWSKY -
Khoiniky and Pinsk, Belarus TARSHISH - Bobruysk, Belarus BERLIN -
Rozhany, Belarus
DOLGITZER / DOLGICER - Riga, Latvia / Vitebsk, Belarus MALKIMAN -
Letichev and
Mikhalpol, Ukraine PELMAN - Russia PSHISOSKI - Rzesz, Poland
LEVI - Russia and Israel
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support JewishGen with a contribution to the JewishGen General Fund!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
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Sign up for the JGFFAlert!
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgff-faq.html#q3.7
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Come to the
29th IAJGS International Conference
on Jewish Genealogy
Philadelphia August 2-7, 2009 www.philly2009.org
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Re: TB #general

Barry Lachman
 

TB was a very common disease for Eastern European immigrants. My
grandfather died of TB in 1914 when my mother was 12. In order to put
the original question in perspective, an understanding of TB as a
disease is needed. TB is a bacteria of very high infectivity. Only
one or two bacilli (individual bacteria) are enough to cause
infection. However, the body can wall off the disease and inactivate
it. It is not killed and can restart years later. It is very common
for those exposed to have calcified TB nodules. Stress can cause the
disease to become active and aggressive. Thus, one explanation for
the women dying is pregnancy induced stress. Another factor in
disease severity can be the size of the exposure. Thus, if the women
were nursing the sick, they might have a greater exposure and more
severe disease.

Barry S. Lachman, MD, MPH
Dallas, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: TB #general

Barry Lachman
 

TB was a very common disease for Eastern European immigrants. My
grandfather died of TB in 1914 when my mother was 12. In order to put
the original question in perspective, an understanding of TB as a
disease is needed. TB is a bacteria of very high infectivity. Only
one or two bacilli (individual bacteria) are enough to cause
infection. However, the body can wall off the disease and inactivate
it. It is not killed and can restart years later. It is very common
for those exposed to have calcified TB nodules. Stress can cause the
disease to become active and aggressive. Thus, one explanation for
the women dying is pregnancy induced stress. Another factor in
disease severity can be the size of the exposure. Thus, if the women
were nursing the sick, they might have a greater exposure and more
severe disease.

Barry S. Lachman, MD, MPH
Dallas, TX


2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy - SIG and BOF Meetings #general

David Mink
 

For the 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held
in Philadelphia 2-7 August, the applications for SIG (Special Interest
Group) programming blocks/luncheons and BOF (Birds of a Feather) meetings
have been distributed to those groups who have participated in the past few
IAJGS Conferences. Our contact list may be incomplete and we may have missed
sending you an application. If you are a leader of a SIG or BOF or other
organization who would like an application, please tell us and we will send
you one.

For the Philadelphia conference, the Program Committee is encouraging groups
of "landsmen" >from cities and towns in the US (especially those in the
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware area) and historically Jewish
neighborhoods of Philadelphia to form BOF groups and apply for a meeting at
the Conference.

Anyone wishing an application form please contact me at
programs@....

Hope to see you all at the Conference.

Mark Halpern
Program Chair
programs@...
http://www.philly2009.org/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy - SIG and BOF Meetings #general

David Mink
 

For the 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held
in Philadelphia 2-7 August, the applications for SIG (Special Interest
Group) programming blocks/luncheons and BOF (Birds of a Feather) meetings
have been distributed to those groups who have participated in the past few
IAJGS Conferences. Our contact list may be incomplete and we may have missed
sending you an application. If you are a leader of a SIG or BOF or other
organization who would like an application, please tell us and we will send
you one.

For the Philadelphia conference, the Program Committee is encouraging groups
of "landsmen" >from cities and towns in the US (especially those in the
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware area) and historically Jewish
neighborhoods of Philadelphia to form BOF groups and apply for a meeting at
the Conference.

Anyone wishing an application form please contact me at
programs@....

Hope to see you all at the Conference.

Mark Halpern
Program Chair
programs@...
http://www.philly2009.org/


IAJGS Conference - August 2009 #ciechanow #poland

Stan Zeidenberg
 

Dear fellow Ciechanow researchers,

Are you planning to attend the IAJGS conference in Philadelphia - August
2009? If enough of us will be attending then I will organize a meeting.
Please let me know. Our group has not been too active in recent times.
This would be an opportunity for us to meet face to face and to develop some
worthwhile projects.

STAN ZEIDENBERG
Coordinator, Ciechanow Research Group


#Ciechanow #Poland IAJGS Conference - August 2009 #ciechanow #poland

Stan Zeidenberg
 

Dear fellow Ciechanow researchers,

Are you planning to attend the IAJGS conference in Philadelphia - August
2009? If enough of us will be attending then I will organize a meeting.
Please let me know. Our group has not been too active in recent times.
This would be an opportunity for us to meet face to face and to develop some
worthwhile projects.

STAN ZEIDENBERG
Coordinator, Ciechanow Research Group


2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy - SIG and BOF Meetings #ciechanow #poland

David Mink
 

For the 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held
in Philadelphia 2-7 August, the applications for SIG (Special Interest
Group) programming blocks/luncheons and BOF (Birds of a Feather) meetings
have been distributed to those groups who have participated in the past few
IAJGS Conferences. Our contact list may be incomplete and we may have missed
sending you an application. If you are a leader of a SIG or BOF or other
organization who would like an application, please tell us and we will send
you one.

For the Philadelphia conference, the Program Committee is encouraging groups
of "landsmen" >from cities and towns in the US (especially those in the
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware area) and historically Jewish
neighborhoods of Philadelphia to form BOF groups and apply for a meeting at
the Conference.

Anyone wishing an application form please contact me at
programs@....

Hope to see you all at the Conference.

Mark Halpern
Program Chair
programs@...
http://www.philly2009.org/


#Ciechanow #Poland 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy - SIG and BOF Meetings #ciechanow #poland

David Mink
 

For the 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held
in Philadelphia 2-7 August, the applications for SIG (Special Interest
Group) programming blocks/luncheons and BOF (Birds of a Feather) meetings
have been distributed to those groups who have participated in the past few
IAJGS Conferences. Our contact list may be incomplete and we may have missed
sending you an application. If you are a leader of a SIG or BOF or other
organization who would like an application, please tell us and we will send
you one.

For the Philadelphia conference, the Program Committee is encouraging groups
of "landsmen" >from cities and towns in the US (especially those in the
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware area) and historically Jewish
neighborhoods of Philadelphia to form BOF groups and apply for a meeting at
the Conference.

Anyone wishing an application form please contact me at
programs@....

Hope to see you all at the Conference.

Mark Halpern
Program Chair
programs@...
http://www.philly2009.org/


2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy - SIG and BOF Meetings #ukraine

David Mink
 

For the 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held
in Philadelphia 2-7 August, the applications for SIG (Special Interest
Group) programming blocks/luncheons and BOF (Birds of a Feather) meetings
have been distributed to those groups who have participated in the past few
IAJGS Conferences. Our contact list may be incomplete and we may have missed
sending you an application. If you are a leader of a SIG or BOF or other
organization who would like an application, please tell us and we will send
you one.

For the Philadelphia conference, the Program Committee is encouraging groups
of "landsmen" >from cities and towns in the US (especially those in the
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware area) and historically Jewish
neighborhoods of Philadelphia to form BOF groups and apply for a meeting at
the Conference.

Anyone wishing an application form please contact me at
programs@....

Hope to see you all at the Conference.

Mark Halpern
Program Chair
programs@...
http://www.philly2009.org/


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy - SIG and BOF Meetings #ukraine

David Mink
 

For the 2009 IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held
in Philadelphia 2-7 August, the applications for SIG (Special Interest
Group) programming blocks/luncheons and BOF (Birds of a Feather) meetings
have been distributed to those groups who have participated in the past few
IAJGS Conferences. Our contact list may be incomplete and we may have missed
sending you an application. If you are a leader of a SIG or BOF or other
organization who would like an application, please tell us and we will send
you one.

For the Philadelphia conference, the Program Committee is encouraging groups
of "landsmen" >from cities and towns in the US (especially those in the
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware area) and historically Jewish
neighborhoods of Philadelphia to form BOF groups and apply for a meeting at
the Conference.

Anyone wishing an application form please contact me at
programs@....

Hope to see you all at the Conference.

Mark Halpern
Program Chair
programs@...
http://www.philly2009.org/


Lithuania Internal Passport Records #general

Howard Margol
 

I just distributed another group of Ukmerge Lithuania Internal Passport
Records, 1919-1940 to the qualified contributors.
So far, 684 Ukmerge records have been translated with a lot more to be
translated. I have just added a second translator to the Ukmerge Internal
Passport records so the work should advance more quickly in the future. In
order to make sure all of the Ukmerge Int. Pass. records get translated, a
minimum contribution of $100 would be appreciated. You would receive all of
the past and future Ukmerge I.P. records that are translated.

I am referring only to Internal Passport records. This is an entirely
separate project that is not connected to vital records or other types of
records projects. These I.P. records contain a lot of very important
information. In addition, if you find records of interest, you can write to
the Central archive in Vilnius and obtain copies of all documents in that
person's file.

To donate, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm
and scroll down to Project Needs. You can use your credit card as the site
is secure.

If you do make a contribution, please let me know so I can send you the
records. It will be at least a month before Jewishgen will advise me of your
contribution.

Howard Margol
Coordinator - Internal Passport Project
homargol@...
www.pusalotas.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuania Internal Passport Records #general

Howard Margol
 

I just distributed another group of Ukmerge Lithuania Internal Passport
Records, 1919-1940 to the qualified contributors.
So far, 684 Ukmerge records have been translated with a lot more to be
translated. I have just added a second translator to the Ukmerge Internal
Passport records so the work should advance more quickly in the future. In
order to make sure all of the Ukmerge Int. Pass. records get translated, a
minimum contribution of $100 would be appreciated. You would receive all of
the past and future Ukmerge I.P. records that are translated.

I am referring only to Internal Passport records. This is an entirely
separate project that is not connected to vital records or other types of
records projects. These I.P. records contain a lot of very important
information. In addition, if you find records of interest, you can write to
the Central archive in Vilnius and obtain copies of all documents in that
person's file.

To donate, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm
and scroll down to Project Needs. You can use your credit card as the site
is secure.

If you do make a contribution, please let me know so I can send you the
records. It will be at least a month before Jewishgen will advise me of your
contribution.

Howard Margol
Coordinator - Internal Passport Project
homargol@...
www.pusalotas.org


Mano HERSHKOVITZ New York, Samuel HECHT, New York City #general

Renate Bielefeld <renate.bielefeld@...>
 

Herskovitz 1923 , New York City

Dear Genners,
does anyone know about Mano HERSKOVITZ, who in 1923 was
a jewelry dealer, address 350 E 67th street and Rozi Herskovitz
Moreover, how were they related to Samuel HECHT, poultry merchant,
born 1872 in Havazmez, Hungary (today Romania). Samuel Hecht
was the nephew of my greatgrandmother, his father was Israel (Jossel)
David Hecht, living in New York at the same time.
Thanks,
Renate Bielefeld

searching for : GOLDSTEIN,HECHT,SPITZER,GRASSGRUEN,UNTERBERGER
(Maramaros, Hungarian Triangle, Arva, Banat)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mano HERSHKOVITZ New York, Samuel HECHT, New York City #general

Renate Bielefeld <renate.bielefeld@...>
 

Herskovitz 1923 , New York City

Dear Genners,
does anyone know about Mano HERSKOVITZ, who in 1923 was
a jewelry dealer, address 350 E 67th street and Rozi Herskovitz
Moreover, how were they related to Samuel HECHT, poultry merchant,
born 1872 in Havazmez, Hungary (today Romania). Samuel Hecht
was the nephew of my greatgrandmother, his father was Israel (Jossel)
David Hecht, living in New York at the same time.
Thanks,
Renate Bielefeld

searching for : GOLDSTEIN,HECHT,SPITZER,GRASSGRUEN,UNTERBERGER
(Maramaros, Hungarian Triangle, Arva, Banat)