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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Help locating graves in Johannesburg #southafrica

Eric Horwitz <horwitzclan@...>
 

Hi
There is a contact at West Park
Her name is Hannah Karpes
Hope this would help
Eric Horwitz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Colman" <stancol@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [safrica] Help locating graves in Johannesburg


Dear Inbal,

The Chevra Kadisha offices at West Park have computerised records of the
burials at Brixton.Perhaps this could help.

Regards,
Stan Colman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Inbal Livne" <ballydoodle@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:14 AM
Subject: [safrica] Help locating graves in Johannesburg


Dear group,

I have been using the Jewishgen online burial register with some sucsess
to trace
family members buried in Johannesburg. However, there are three people who
don't
appear online, i assume because they are quite early burials and aren't
buried in
Westpark (I'm assuming they're in Brixton??). The problem is, i do'nt know
exactly
when they died. I was hoping that if i found gravestones, i could then get
dates
of death and then i'd be able to get hold of death notices for further
info.

I am hoping someone has a good idea about how to find this information,
bearing in
mind I'm in the UK and can't get to SA.

The people I'm looking for are David and Leah SHALL (SCHIER) who died
within months
of each other c.1937/8. Not to be confused with Leah Shall who died in
1954 and is
buried in Westpark (she's also a relative). Also, my
great-great-grandmother who's
first name i don't know but her surname was KUPCZYK and she died also
mid-late
1930s and lived her last years in a nursing home.

If anyone recognises these names or has any ideas about how to access the
information, i'd be most grateful.

Best Wishes,

Inbal Livne (Edinburgh)

Researching: SHALL/SCHIER (London, Johannesburg, Lithuania) and
KUPCZYK (Johannesburg, Poland)


Re: Help locating graves in Johannesburg #southafrica

Eric Horwitz <horwitzclan@...>
 

Hi
There is a contact at West Park
Her name is Hannah Karpes
Hope this would help
Eric Horwitz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Colman" <stancol@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [safrica] Help locating graves in Johannesburg


Dear Inbal,

The Chevra Kadisha offices at West Park have computerised records of the
burials at Brixton.Perhaps this could help.

Regards,
Stan Colman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Inbal Livne" <ballydoodle@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:14 AM
Subject: [safrica] Help locating graves in Johannesburg


Dear group,

I have been using the Jewishgen online burial register with some sucsess
to trace
family members buried in Johannesburg. However, there are three people who
don't
appear online, i assume because they are quite early burials and aren't
buried in
Westpark (I'm assuming they're in Brixton??). The problem is, i do'nt know
exactly
when they died. I was hoping that if i found gravestones, i could then get
dates
of death and then i'd be able to get hold of death notices for further
info.

I am hoping someone has a good idea about how to find this information,
bearing in
mind I'm in the UK and can't get to SA.

The people I'm looking for are David and Leah SHALL (SCHIER) who died
within months
of each other c.1937/8. Not to be confused with Leah Shall who died in
1954 and is
buried in Westpark (she's also a relative). Also, my
great-great-grandmother who's
first name i don't know but her surname was KUPCZYK and she died also
mid-late
1930s and lived her last years in a nursing home.

If anyone recognises these names or has any ideas about how to access the
information, i'd be most grateful.

Best Wishes,

Inbal Livne (Edinburgh)

Researching: SHALL/SCHIER (London, Johannesburg, Lithuania) and
KUPCZYK (Johannesburg, Poland)


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Help in locating graves in Johannesburg #southafrica

balden <balden@...>
 

Inbal Livine wrote:

"I have been using the Jewishgen online burial register with some sucsess to
trace family members buried in Johannesburg."

I suggest you try the site hereunder. Click on Cemeteries which will appear
in the left hand side of your screen.

South African Jewish Rootsbank
Centre for Jewish Migration & Genealogy Studies
Web-site: http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/CGI/cgi_Rootweb.exe

Failing the above you will have to contact a Researcher in South Africa
who will go - for a fee- to the Cemetery to look for your information.
If you require a Researcher please contact me privately.

Beryl Baleson
Israel
balden@...


Help in locating graves in Johannesburg #southafrica

balden <balden@...>
 

Inbal Livine wrote:

"I have been using the Jewishgen online burial register with some sucsess to
trace family members buried in Johannesburg."

I suggest you try the site hereunder. Click on Cemeteries which will appear
in the left hand side of your screen.

South African Jewish Rootsbank
Centre for Jewish Migration & Genealogy Studies
Web-site: http://chrysalis.its.uct.ac.za/CGI/cgi_Rootweb.exe

Failing the above you will have to contact a Researcher in South Africa
who will go - for a fee- to the Cemetery to look for your information.
If you require a Researcher please contact me privately.

Beryl Baleson
Israel
balden@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Help locating graves in Johannesburg #southafrica

Stan Colman <stancol@...>
 

Dear Inbal,

The Chevra Kadisha offices at West Park have computerised records of the
burials at Brixton.Perhaps this could help.

Regards,
Stan Colman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Inbal Livne" <ballydoodle@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:14 AM
Subject: [safrica] Help locating graves in Johannesburg


Dear group,

I have been using the Jewishgen online burial register with some sucsess to
trace
family members buried in Johannesburg. However, there are three people who
don't
appear online, i assume because they are quite early burials and aren't
buried in
Westpark (I'm assuming they're in Brixton??). The problem is, i do'nt know
exactly
when they died. I was hoping that if i found gravestones, i could then get
dates
of death and then i'd be able to get hold of death notices for further info.

I am hoping someone has a good idea about how to find this information,
bearing in
mind I'm in the UK and can't get to SA.

The people I'm looking for are David and Leah SHALL (SCHIER) who died within
months
of each other c.1937/8. Not to be confused with Leah Shall who died in 1954
and is
buried in Westpark (she's also a relative). Also, my great-great-grandmother
who's
first name i don't know but her surname was KUPCZYK and she died also
mid-late
1930s and lived her last years in a nursing home.

If anyone recognises these names or has any ideas about how to access the
information, i'd be most grateful.

Best Wishes,

Inbal Livne (Edinburgh)

Researching: SHALL/SCHIER (London, Johannesburg, Lithuania) and
KUPCZYK (Johannesburg, Poland)


Re: Help locating graves in Johannesburg #southafrica

Stan Colman <stancol@...>
 

Dear Inbal,

The Chevra Kadisha offices at West Park have computerised records of the
burials at Brixton.Perhaps this could help.

Regards,
Stan Colman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Inbal Livne" <ballydoodle@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:14 AM
Subject: [safrica] Help locating graves in Johannesburg


Dear group,

I have been using the Jewishgen online burial register with some sucsess to
trace
family members buried in Johannesburg. However, there are three people who
don't
appear online, i assume because they are quite early burials and aren't
buried in
Westpark (I'm assuming they're in Brixton??). The problem is, i do'nt know
exactly
when they died. I was hoping that if i found gravestones, i could then get
dates
of death and then i'd be able to get hold of death notices for further info.

I am hoping someone has a good idea about how to find this information,
bearing in
mind I'm in the UK and can't get to SA.

The people I'm looking for are David and Leah SHALL (SCHIER) who died within
months
of each other c.1937/8. Not to be confused with Leah Shall who died in 1954
and is
buried in Westpark (she's also a relative). Also, my great-great-grandmother
who's
first name i don't know but her surname was KUPCZYK and she died also
mid-late
1930s and lived her last years in a nursing home.

If anyone recognises these names or has any ideas about how to access the
information, i'd be most grateful.

Best Wishes,

Inbal Livne (Edinburgh)

Researching: SHALL/SCHIER (London, Johannesburg, Lithuania) and
KUPCZYK (Johannesburg, Poland)


Romania SIG #Romania Rules & Guidelines for posting to the ROM-SIG! #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

With the New Year here it is time for a reminder of the rules and
guidelines
for posting to this SIG!

The rules that apply to the JewishGen Discussion Group also apply to all
the SIG Discussion Groups as well. Here is a brief refresher.

For complete rules go to:

< www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/DiscussionGroup.htm>
----------------------------------------------------------
1) All surnames should always be capitalized, and surnames *only*!

2) Subject lines should be explicit (e.g. Romanian patronymics
explained; Seeking family - Botosani ) and not general (e.g. need help or
digest 3/6), or worse (No subject)!

3) Signatures should be complete. By this we mean that you must sign
your full name and location (e.g. Jane Doe, Iasi, Romania or Joe Blow,
Podunk,IA).

A responder to an unsigned message can tell you to go to National
Archives, but if you live in France that is of no help to you!

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Postings that do not clearly relate to our areas will be rejected.

Thank you for your cooperation.
Your Co-Coordinators,
Rosanne Leeson
Paula Zieselman


Rules & Guidelines for posting to the ROM-SIG! #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

With the New Year here it is time for a reminder of the rules and
guidelines
for posting to this SIG!

The rules that apply to the JewishGen Discussion Group also apply to all
the SIG Discussion Groups as well. Here is a brief refresher.

For complete rules go to:

< www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/DiscussionGroup.htm>
----------------------------------------------------------
1) All surnames should always be capitalized, and surnames *only*!

2) Subject lines should be explicit (e.g. Romanian patronymics
explained; Seeking family - Botosani ) and not general (e.g. need help or
digest 3/6), or worse (No subject)!

3) Signatures should be complete. By this we mean that you must sign
your full name and location (e.g. Jane Doe, Iasi, Romania or Joe Blow,
Podunk,IA).

A responder to an unsigned message can tell you to go to National
Archives, but if you live in France that is of no help to you!

4) Please do not send messages in MIME or HTML format! The JewishGen
server can only accept Plain Text messages. Please contact your provider
if you do not know how to set your email program.

5) Messages cannot be copied >from one list to another without the
express permission of the owner of the original list. If you wish, you
may abstract the information, or say it in your own words.

6) Please do *not* hit the Reply button to answer a message sent to the
Digest. This drags the entire Digest with it, and causes needlessly
long messages for the Moderators to Edit. Simply indicate the name of
the person to whom you are answering, and give the subject of that message.

7) If you use an "Out of office" responder you must set your email to
NOMAIL * before* turning on your automatic responder. Otherwise every
message sent to the list will be bounced back to the sender. You can
do this by going to: < http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager >
Be considerate of your fellow subscribers!

8) And finally, all messages sent to this list must have to do with the
areas covered by this list, i.e. Romania, Transylvania, Moldova as well
as those areas formerly known as Bukovina, Bessarabia, Banat, etc.
Postings that do not clearly relate to our areas will be rejected.

Thank you for your cooperation.
Your Co-Coordinators,
Rosanne Leeson
Paula Zieselman


Romania SIG #Romania RE: Search for Father's relatives -- HRYCAJ #romania

Michel Hryce <mhryce@...>
 

Dear JewishGen Romania Members,
Hello I am searching for information about my father (now deceased)
and his family.

Known as Jacques HRYCAJ he migrated to Australia after WW2.
Regards and thank you for any possible connection
Michel Sydney Australia
SEARCHING "HRYCAJ" Eastern Europe

Michel Maree Hryce
email mhryce@bigpond,com

MODERATOR NOTE: You can maximize your chances of success in your
search by registering the surname of interest in the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF) since this is one of our most heavily visited
sites. It also creates a permanent and easily accessible record
so that anyone searching the surname(s) in which you are interested
can find you quickly! Go to http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ and click
on ENTER if this is the first time you have registered a surname in
this database. The program will take you through the process.
If you want to see who else might be searching the same surname,
click on the SEARCH icon .


Re: Search for Father's relatives -- HRYCAJ #romania

Michel Hryce <mhryce@...>
 

Dear JewishGen Romania Members,
Hello I am searching for information about my father (now deceased)
and his family.

Known as Jacques HRYCAJ he migrated to Australia after WW2.
Regards and thank you for any possible connection
Michel Sydney Australia
SEARCHING "HRYCAJ" Eastern Europe

Michel Maree Hryce
email mhryce@bigpond,com

MODERATOR NOTE: You can maximize your chances of success in your
search by registering the surname of interest in the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF) since this is one of our most heavily visited
sites. It also creates a permanent and easily accessible record
so that anyone searching the surname(s) in which you are interested
can find you quickly! Go to http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ and click
on ENTER if this is the first time you have registered a surname in
this database. The program will take you through the process.
If you want to see who else might be searching the same surname,
click on the SEARCH icon .


Galicia family records #galicia

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

Hello,

I was wondering, on average, how far back in time do most Galicia
researchers have their families reconstructed?

In my experience >from Hungarian research it is not uncommon to have
proof of ancestors born in 1790.

Alex Miller PA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Galicia family records #galicia

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

Hello,

I was wondering, on average, how far back in time do most Galicia
researchers have their families reconstructed?

In my experience >from Hungarian research it is not uncommon to have
proof of ancestors born in 1790.

Alex Miller PA


Leo Rosenhand #galicia

Leo <vrosenha@...>
 

Greetings,

The family of Leo Rosenhand is sorry to inform everyone that he
passed away at age 79 on November 29, 2008 following a heart attack
10 days earlier. We appreciate your kind condolences.

Leo avidly recorded the family genealogy and perused his research
vigorously. It gave him great pleasure to do so in his later years.
We're all grateful for the information he was able to uncover, and
know he would have wanted all of you to have the best of luck in
pursuing your quests.

All the best,

Vera (wife), Tracy, Lynn, Starr and Hilary (daughters)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Leo Rosenhand #galicia

Leo <vrosenha@...>
 

Greetings,

The family of Leo Rosenhand is sorry to inform everyone that he
passed away at age 79 on November 29, 2008 following a heart attack
10 days earlier. We appreciate your kind condolences.

Leo avidly recorded the family genealogy and perused his research
vigorously. It gave him great pleasure to do so in his later years.
We're all grateful for the information he was able to uncover, and
know he would have wanted all of you to have the best of luck in
pursuing your quests.

All the best,

Vera (wife), Tracy, Lynn, Starr and Hilary (daughters)


German Jewish Soldier killed in Mittau, Jelgava, Latvia - THANK YOU #germany

Judith Elam
 

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request. I have not yet
found the answers but I appreciate all the tips. Thank you very much.

Judith E. Elam ( City name ??? ) Hawaii, USA


German SIG #Germany German Jewish Soldier killed in Mittau, Jelgava, Latvia - THANK YOU #germany

Judith Elam
 

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request. I have not yet
found the answers but I appreciate all the tips. Thank you very much.

Judith E. Elam ( City name ??? ) Hawaii, USA


Seeking Information on Frederichshof! #germany

Jeni ArmandezZiara <jeni.armandez@...>
 

Hello Fellow Genners! I am pleased to say that I have been slowly making my way
through my mum's paternal side. I found that my great-great grandmother,
Caroline KELLER nee CONRAD was born in 1830 in a village called Friederichshof,
Prussia, supposedly not far >from Berlin.

I am not positive on my spelling of this village and very little information
comes up when I try to search for Frederichshof. Does anyone know anything
about it? Caroline had a total of 12 children with Isaac KELLER. They later
moved to London where Caroline passed away at the ripe age of 101 in 1931.
She is buried at Edmonton Cemetery in England.

I have only been able to access the Naturalisation papers for Jules KELLER
(one of the sons) so I have no further information. These papers did state
that both Caroline and Isaac were both former subjects of the Empire of Germany.
One thing to note is that Caroline was well educated for her time. Before coming
to England, she spoke German, Polish, Russian and Hebrew. Perhaps I am too quick
in making an assumption that her family was not poor. I know when the family
moved to England, they were not.

I am most grateful for anyone's information on this area. Please respond
privately unless you think your info would be of value to the group.

Thank you, Jeni Armandez Los Angeles, CA <jeni.armandez@...>

Seeking: KELLER, SCHONFELD, ARNDT, CONRAD, DINE, EITIG, BRESLAUER,
SCHIFFRE and CHRALL (UK/Germany/Poland)


German SIG #Germany Seeking Information on Frederichshof! #germany

Jeni ArmandezZiara <jeni.armandez@...>
 

Hello Fellow Genners! I am pleased to say that I have been slowly making my way
through my mum's paternal side. I found that my great-great grandmother,
Caroline KELLER nee CONRAD was born in 1830 in a village called Friederichshof,
Prussia, supposedly not far >from Berlin.

I am not positive on my spelling of this village and very little information
comes up when I try to search for Frederichshof. Does anyone know anything
about it? Caroline had a total of 12 children with Isaac KELLER. They later
moved to London where Caroline passed away at the ripe age of 101 in 1931.
She is buried at Edmonton Cemetery in England.

I have only been able to access the Naturalisation papers for Jules KELLER
(one of the sons) so I have no further information. These papers did state
that both Caroline and Isaac were both former subjects of the Empire of Germany.
One thing to note is that Caroline was well educated for her time. Before coming
to England, she spoke German, Polish, Russian and Hebrew. Perhaps I am too quick
in making an assumption that her family was not poor. I know when the family
moved to England, they were not.

I am most grateful for anyone's information on this area. Please respond
privately unless you think your info would be of value to the group.

Thank you, Jeni Armandez Los Angeles, CA <jeni.armandez@...>

Seeking: KELLER, SCHONFELD, ARNDT, CONRAD, DINE, EITIG, BRESLAUER,
SCHIFFRE and CHRALL (UK/Germany/Poland)


help understanding Tombstone inscription #general

mpcamitta@...
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to understand something about my great grandmother's tombstone. The
first line reads: he aleph shin het het tzadik lamed vav ayin chet
I think that it means, the woman, the Soloveitch. Am I right? the second line is
her name, Sheina, the third line reads bat reb Yacov Meir

Can anyone help me with this?

Thank you in advance.

Miriam Camitta
Wynnewood, PA

BASSEIN, Minsk, Borisov, Mogilev; Bobr; BASHEIN, Borisov, Azatchetzka;
KAGAN, Minsk, Rechitsa; PALEY, Belarus; TONIS; REMES or REMEZ; RODMAN;
SHELUPSKY; MOLLOT, Minsk; FRADKIN, Minsk; HOROWITZ; SOLOWEITCH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen help understanding Tombstone inscription #general

mpcamitta@...
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to understand something about my great grandmother's tombstone. The
first line reads: he aleph shin het het tzadik lamed vav ayin chet
I think that it means, the woman, the Soloveitch. Am I right? the second line is
her name, Sheina, the third line reads bat reb Yacov Meir

Can anyone help me with this?

Thank you in advance.

Miriam Camitta
Wynnewood, PA

BASSEIN, Minsk, Borisov, Mogilev; Bobr; BASHEIN, Borisov, Azatchetzka;
KAGAN, Minsk, Rechitsa; PALEY, Belarus; TONIS; REMES or REMEZ; RODMAN;
SHELUPSKY; MOLLOT, Minsk; FRADKIN, Minsk; HOROWITZ; SOLOWEITCH