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Searching for missing branch of a GORDON family #general

NormK12065
 

JGenrs,

I am searching for a supposed missing branch of my wife's GORDON family.
The known children of Joseph GORDON and Bessie PERLMUTT were Nathan (Nachman
Zev) GORDON and Abraham Lewis GORDON. Nathan possibly >from Vasilishok
immigrated in 1914, and wife Paja Wagenheim immigrated in 1921 with several
children. They settled in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. Abraham, possibly
from the Vilna area immigrated in 1903, originally settled in New York City
where he married Jennie KUPCHIK. Eventually they moved to the Hampton Roads
area of Virginia, but they separated and Jennie went back to New York City.

One of Abraham's elderly descendants recalls a third brother whose name is
not known. The person recalls that he may have gone to Tennessee in the early
1900s and then emigrated to Canada. He supposedly was a successful
businessman who eventually became blind and wound up back in the USA in the Home
for the Blind, possibly in Brooklyn. We estimate that he passed away while
living in the home in the mid 1950s.

Much has been accomplished in the past few months in assembling complete
family trees for Nathan and Abraham. If the missing brother scenario sounds
like it might be a member of your family, please contact me privately. The
family would like very much to be able to solve this puzzle.

Thank you.

Norm Katz
Monroe Township, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for missing branch of a GORDON family #general

NormK12065
 

JGenrs,

I am searching for a supposed missing branch of my wife's GORDON family.
The known children of Joseph GORDON and Bessie PERLMUTT were Nathan (Nachman
Zev) GORDON and Abraham Lewis GORDON. Nathan possibly >from Vasilishok
immigrated in 1914, and wife Paja Wagenheim immigrated in 1921 with several
children. They settled in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. Abraham, possibly
from the Vilna area immigrated in 1903, originally settled in New York City
where he married Jennie KUPCHIK. Eventually they moved to the Hampton Roads
area of Virginia, but they separated and Jennie went back to New York City.

One of Abraham's elderly descendants recalls a third brother whose name is
not known. The person recalls that he may have gone to Tennessee in the early
1900s and then emigrated to Canada. He supposedly was a successful
businessman who eventually became blind and wound up back in the USA in the Home
for the Blind, possibly in Brooklyn. We estimate that he passed away while
living in the home in the mid 1950s.

Much has been accomplished in the past few months in assembling complete
family trees for Nathan and Abraham. If the missing brother scenario sounds
like it might be a member of your family, please contact me privately. The
family would like very much to be able to solve this puzzle.

Thank you.

Norm Katz
Monroe Township, NJ


Re: Russian Jewish genealogical research #general

Jules Levin
 

Nick Landau wrote:
JewishGen Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html points out that there
were very few Jews living in what is Russia today, but rather they
lived in the Pale of Settlement which areas are now in Poland,
Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova.
Very few is immaterial for those who have ancestors who were living
beyond the Pale, in Russia. My gm's family werein St Petersburg area
(Kronshtadt) >from Lithuania by the 1870's. In 1891 20,000 Jews without
proper permits were expelled >from St. Petersburg, presumably leaving behind
plenty with permits. There were synagogues and schools in St. Pete by then.
By 1914 many professions in the city had large numbers of Jews--there were many
Jewish women pharmacists.
Jews who were Cantonists who successfully completed their military
service were allowed to remain where they were mustered out, and by
the end of the 19th Century were found all over Russia, including
Siberia. Cantonists were the start of the Finnish Jewish
community. By the start of WW I the Pale system was breaking down.
Finally, there were always Jewish communities elsewhere in Russia,
just not Ashkenazi Jews--e.g., in Kazakhstan, Georgia, etc.,
etc. Let's not forget them.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russian Jewish genealogical research #general

Jules Levin
 

Nick Landau wrote:
JewishGen Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html points out that there
were very few Jews living in what is Russia today, but rather they
lived in the Pale of Settlement which areas are now in Poland,
Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova.
Very few is immaterial for those who have ancestors who were living
beyond the Pale, in Russia. My gm's family werein St Petersburg area
(Kronshtadt) >from Lithuania by the 1870's. In 1891 20,000 Jews without
proper permits were expelled >from St. Petersburg, presumably leaving behind
plenty with permits. There were synagogues and schools in St. Pete by then.
By 1914 many professions in the city had large numbers of Jews--there were many
Jewish women pharmacists.
Jews who were Cantonists who successfully completed their military
service were allowed to remain where they were mustered out, and by
the end of the 19th Century were found all over Russia, including
Siberia. Cantonists were the start of the Finnish Jewish
community. By the start of WW I the Pale system was breaking down.
Finally, there were always Jewish communities elsewhere in Russia,
just not Ashkenazi Jews--e.g., in Kazakhstan, Georgia, etc.,
etc. Let's not forget them.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Holocaust Survivor Tattoos #general

felicia zieff
 

Dear friends,

How can a descendant of a Jewish Holocaust Survivor find out their parent's tattoo
number after the parent's death? No one in the family can remember what it was
and now they want to know. Your assistance is appreciated.

Felicia P. Zieff
President
Association of Descendants of the Shoah - Illinois, Inc.
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/zloczew/zloczew.html


Availability of documents in Israel #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I would like to bring it to your attention, that the Central Archives for
the History of the Jewish People situated on the Givat Ram Campus of the
Hebrew University in Jerusalem has microfilmed various documents at archives
in the Ukraine, other Eastern European countries, and >from around the world.
I visited the CAHJP in December and prepared lists of documents available
for the shtetl sites I have built for Kalinovka and Litin. Many of the
documents contain information for more than one town in them. These are not
vital records. The catalogue is in Russia, so if you plan on visiting to
look for materials on "Russia", make sure you are accompanied by a Russian
speaker, unless you can read and understand Russian yourself. Of course, if
the documents are >from Poland, you will need to know Polish, and so forth.
Thanks to Alex, who traveled to Jerusalem with me, I was able to make a list of
documents they microfilmed that contain information on Kalinovka and Litin. Not
all are of genealogical value.
The lists I compiled for my shtetlsites can be seen at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka/cenarch.html
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/cenarchl.html
I made copies of three documents and would appreciate the help of volunteers
to translate them.
They are
1835-36 - Loans to Jews >from Litin who were hurt in the fire (97 Jews),
1910 - List of those born in 1883 to 1889 >from the area of Vinnitsa that
should be inducted in 1910
1921 - List of the Jews of Litin (152) murdered in the pogrom May 1921

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK - Podolia, Ukraine
EPSTEIN, Ruzhany & Mscibow, Belarus
TREPER, TREPMAN, SOJCHER, FELDMAN, LICHT - Warsaw, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Survivor Tattoos #general

felicia zieff
 

Dear friends,

How can a descendant of a Jewish Holocaust Survivor find out their parent's tattoo
number after the parent's death? No one in the family can remember what it was
and now they want to know. Your assistance is appreciated.

Felicia P. Zieff
President
Association of Descendants of the Shoah - Illinois, Inc.
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/zloczew/zloczew.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Availability of documents in Israel #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I would like to bring it to your attention, that the Central Archives for
the History of the Jewish People situated on the Givat Ram Campus of the
Hebrew University in Jerusalem has microfilmed various documents at archives
in the Ukraine, other Eastern European countries, and >from around the world.
I visited the CAHJP in December and prepared lists of documents available
for the shtetl sites I have built for Kalinovka and Litin. Many of the
documents contain information for more than one town in them. These are not
vital records. The catalogue is in Russia, so if you plan on visiting to
look for materials on "Russia", make sure you are accompanied by a Russian
speaker, unless you can read and understand Russian yourself. Of course, if
the documents are >from Poland, you will need to know Polish, and so forth.
Thanks to Alex, who traveled to Jerusalem with me, I was able to make a list of
documents they microfilmed that contain information on Kalinovka and Litin. Not
all are of genealogical value.
The lists I compiled for my shtetlsites can be seen at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka/cenarch.html
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/cenarchl.html
I made copies of three documents and would appreciate the help of volunteers
to translate them.
They are
1835-36 - Loans to Jews >from Litin who were hurt in the fire (97 Jews),
1910 - List of those born in 1883 to 1889 >from the area of Vinnitsa that
should be inducted in 1910
1921 - List of the Jews of Litin (152) murdered in the pogrom May 1921

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK - Podolia, Ukraine
EPSTEIN, Ruzhany & Mscibow, Belarus
TREPER, TREPMAN, SOJCHER, FELDMAN, LICHT - Warsaw, Poland


Surname GROSHNANN #germany

Cathy G. <cag3@...>
 

Dear List,

I've come to a dead-end looking for the surname of one of my ancestors.
Perhaps there is an alternate spelling in German? Here's her information:

Johanna GROSHNANN (b. 3 MAY 1824 d. 2 FEB 1893)
born in Ransern, Germany (was north of Breslau).

She married Thomas LICHTEBLAU (b. 7 JAN 1820 d. 13 APR 1885), who was born in ??
Hernsdorf, Kreis Neishe (P.D) ?? Thank you!

Cathy Gruber Oakton, Virginia USA <cag3@cox.net>


German SIG #Germany Surname GROSHNANN #germany

Cathy G. <cag3@...>
 

Dear List,

I've come to a dead-end looking for the surname of one of my ancestors.
Perhaps there is an alternate spelling in German? Here's her information:

Johanna GROSHNANN (b. 3 MAY 1824 d. 2 FEB 1893)
born in Ransern, Germany (was north of Breslau).

She married Thomas LICHTEBLAU (b. 7 JAN 1820 d. 13 APR 1885), who was born in ??
Hernsdorf, Kreis Neishe (P.D) ?? Thank you!

Cathy Gruber Oakton, Virginia USA <cag3@cox.net>


Re: Jewish Hotels in Germany - Thank you #germany

Debbie Lifshitz
 

Dear GerSig,
I've had a bout of pneumonia so I have not been able to thank all those
who respondesd to my request about information on Jewish Hotels in
Germany in the late 19th and early 20th century. The responses were
indeed very helpful and have given me very specific avenues for
continued research. To those who responded on-site and to those who
responded privately, my sincere thanks! All the best,

Debbie Lifschitz Jerusalem, Israel <debilif@gmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Re: Jewish Hotels in Germany - Thank you #germany

Debbie Lifshitz
 

Dear GerSig,
I've had a bout of pneumonia so I have not been able to thank all those
who respondesd to my request about information on Jewish Hotels in
Germany in the late 19th and early 20th century. The responses were
indeed very helpful and have given me very specific avenues for
continued research. To those who responded on-site and to those who
responded privately, my sincere thanks! All the best,

Debbie Lifschitz Jerusalem, Israel <debilif@gmail.com>


Re: Schiffre = Feige? #galicia

s_wiener@...
 

At one of the well-know name definition web-sites beginning with 'behind', it says
that Shiphrah means "beautiful" in Hebrew. In this week's Torah portion, Parashat
Shemot, Shifrah, along with Puah, were the two Hebrew midwives who disobeyed the
Pharaoh's order to kill any Hebrew boys they delivered.

In this same Torah portion, we learn that Tzipporah was the daughter of Jethro and
became the wife of Moses. Obviously, not the same name, but maybe there is a link
somehow.

And, as has been written frequently in the past, Feige is [somehow] related to the
name Violet [in German?] and it is only our common usage that links it to a bird
[and therefore Tzipporah.] Perhaps someone else knows if the combination Shiffra
Feige is similar to the frequent pairing of Yehudah Leib.

Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, David Rechtschaffen <darex@comcast.net> wrote:

I have found a record where a "known" Feige seems to be also written as "Schiffre"
elsewhere. I presume that Schiffre comes >from Tzipora (which also means "bird"),
so I felt reasonably safe in assuming that there was no inconsistency. Still, when I
input Feige into the Jewishgen Names Database, I do not get any variation of Tzipora
as a result.

Is it likely that these are the same individuals, Feige and Schiffre? I imagined that it
was just a Yiddish name vs. Hebrew name issue.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Schiffre = Feige? #galicia

s_wiener@...
 

At one of the well-know name definition web-sites beginning with 'behind', it says
that Shiphrah means "beautiful" in Hebrew. In this week's Torah portion, Parashat
Shemot, Shifrah, along with Puah, were the two Hebrew midwives who disobeyed the
Pharaoh's order to kill any Hebrew boys they delivered.

In this same Torah portion, we learn that Tzipporah was the daughter of Jethro and
became the wife of Moses. Obviously, not the same name, but maybe there is a link
somehow.

And, as has been written frequently in the past, Feige is [somehow] related to the
name Violet [in German?] and it is only our common usage that links it to a bird
[and therefore Tzipporah.] Perhaps someone else knows if the combination Shiffra
Feige is similar to the frequent pairing of Yehudah Leib.

Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, David Rechtschaffen <darex@comcast.net> wrote:

I have found a record where a "known" Feige seems to be also written as "Schiffre"
elsewhere. I presume that Schiffre comes >from Tzipora (which also means "bird"),
so I felt reasonably safe in assuming that there was no inconsistency. Still, when I
input Feige into the Jewishgen Names Database, I do not get any variation of Tzipora
as a result.

Is it likely that these are the same individuals, Feige and Schiffre? I imagined that it
was just a Yiddish name vs. Hebrew name issue.


Jaremcze (Yarampshe) #galicia

Gmw112252@...
 

Dear Group:

I have recently obtained a copy of the Yiskor book for Jaremcze. This is the
Carpathian village that was a summer retreat for the Jews of Stanislwow, Lwow,
Zloczow and the surrounding areas. The permanent residents included rabbis
and Kabalists - a cross between Monroe, NY of the 1950's and Safat, Israel.
All were executed in Delatyn along with Jews >from the surrounding villages
like Worokta and other shtetels along the narrow gauge railroad line. The
manuscript is being held at Yad Vashem. It is written in Polish.

It's about 20 pages double spaced. Is anyone interested in translating possibly
with a view towards posting on GGen Galicia? (I don't know the procedure for
that. Maybe one of the administrators can help out here.)

Yaakov Weiss
NYC

Moderator's Note: Guidelines for donating translations to the JewishGen Yizkor
Book Project are at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/donation/.


Schiffre = Feige #galicia

Rivka Schirman <capitetes@...>
 

Schiffre is the German spelling of the Hebrew Biblical name of
Shifra, one of the two Hebrew midwives who had saved the newborn
males born to the Hebrew slaves in Egypt after Pharaoh decided to
kill all the newborn males (cf Exodus - Shemot - 1:16-20).
This given name has nothing to do with Feige (which is, indeed, the
German name for Tzipora, bird).

However, we tend to too often to forget that Yiddish derives from
German. It's not because all the Feiges *we* know were Jewish that
the name itself is Jewish - our Galician ancestors lived in a German
speaking environement and, except for the given names of biblical
origin, most of the given names were influenced by the German languge
given names. This is to say that Feige is a German name above all,
not a Yiddish name per-se. So it might still be a question of German
name vs Hebrew name, but you'll have to have other corroborations
before deciding it is the same person (like date of birth, name of
parents, etc).

Rivka


Rivka Schirman nee Moscisker
Paris, France
Searching: MOSCISKER >from Brody, Budzynin, Buczacz, Okopy Szwietej
Trojce, Krakow, Lwow), WEISSMANN and REINSTEIN >from Okopy Szwietej
Trojce (Borszczow, Tarnopol)

David Rechtschaffen <darex@comcast.net> wrote:

I have found a record where a "known" Feige seems to be also
written as "Schiffre" elsewhere.

I presume that Schiffre comes >from Tzipora (which also means "bird"),
so I felt reasonably safe in assuming that there was no
inconsistency.

Still, when I input Feige into the Jewishgen Names Database, I do
not get any variation of Tzipora as a result.

Is it likely that these are the same individuals, Feige and
Schiffre? I imagined that it was just a Yiddish name vs. Hebrew
name issue.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Jaremcze (Yarampshe) #galicia

Gmw112252@...
 

Dear Group:

I have recently obtained a copy of the Yiskor book for Jaremcze. This is the
Carpathian village that was a summer retreat for the Jews of Stanislwow, Lwow,
Zloczow and the surrounding areas. The permanent residents included rabbis
and Kabalists - a cross between Monroe, NY of the 1950's and Safat, Israel.
All were executed in Delatyn along with Jews >from the surrounding villages
like Worokta and other shtetels along the narrow gauge railroad line. The
manuscript is being held at Yad Vashem. It is written in Polish.

It's about 20 pages double spaced. Is anyone interested in translating possibly
with a view towards posting on GGen Galicia? (I don't know the procedure for
that. Maybe one of the administrators can help out here.)

Yaakov Weiss
NYC

Moderator's Note: Guidelines for donating translations to the JewishGen Yizkor
Book Project are at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/donation/.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Schiffre = Feige #galicia

Rivka Schirman <capitetes@...>
 

Schiffre is the German spelling of the Hebrew Biblical name of
Shifra, one of the two Hebrew midwives who had saved the newborn
males born to the Hebrew slaves in Egypt after Pharaoh decided to
kill all the newborn males (cf Exodus - Shemot - 1:16-20).
This given name has nothing to do with Feige (which is, indeed, the
German name for Tzipora, bird).

However, we tend to too often to forget that Yiddish derives from
German. It's not because all the Feiges *we* know were Jewish that
the name itself is Jewish - our Galician ancestors lived in a German
speaking environement and, except for the given names of biblical
origin, most of the given names were influenced by the German languge
given names. This is to say that Feige is a German name above all,
not a Yiddish name per-se. So it might still be a question of German
name vs Hebrew name, but you'll have to have other corroborations
before deciding it is the same person (like date of birth, name of
parents, etc).

Rivka


Rivka Schirman nee Moscisker
Paris, France
Searching: MOSCISKER >from Brody, Budzynin, Buczacz, Okopy Szwietej
Trojce, Krakow, Lwow), WEISSMANN and REINSTEIN >from Okopy Szwietej
Trojce (Borszczow, Tarnopol)

David Rechtschaffen <darex@comcast.net> wrote:

I have found a record where a "known" Feige seems to be also
written as "Schiffre" elsewhere.

I presume that Schiffre comes >from Tzipora (which also means "bird"),
so I felt reasonably safe in assuming that there was no
inconsistency.

Still, when I input Feige into the Jewishgen Names Database, I do
not get any variation of Tzipora as a result.

Is it likely that these are the same individuals, Feige and
Schiffre? I imagined that it was just a Yiddish name vs. Hebrew
name issue.


Records in Ukraine #ukraine

Janis Quaile <jfquaile166@...>
 

I have been trying to locate information on my three branches from
Ukraine. It is very difficult and most information has come by
accident. Unfortunately, all members of the family who had
information are no longer alive. If anyone has suggestions, I would
appreciate the help.

Janis Quaile
North Wales, PA
(Suburb of Philadelphia)

Researching: KHOLMETSKY, KASANOFSKY, SMAGARINSKI. Smogoron,
Ekaterinaslov, Minsk
BRODY, SZMIGELSKI. Grodno, Bialystok


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Records in Ukraine #ukraine

Janis Quaile <jfquaile166@...>
 

I have been trying to locate information on my three branches from
Ukraine. It is very difficult and most information has come by
accident. Unfortunately, all members of the family who had
information are no longer alive. If anyone has suggestions, I would
appreciate the help.

Janis Quaile
North Wales, PA
(Suburb of Philadelphia)

Researching: KHOLMETSKY, KASANOFSKY, SMAGARINSKI. Smogoron,
Ekaterinaslov, Minsk
BRODY, SZMIGELSKI. Grodno, Bialystok