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Breaking News Re. Philly2009 #yiddish

bounce-1857224-772983@...
 

We are very pleased to share the following good news with everyone.

1. All conference registrants staying at the Sheraton hotel will
receive complimentary internet access in their guest room. If you
have not yet made your hotel reservation, do so without delay to
take advantage of this great deal. Use the link at the conference
website (the Hotel Registration button) to do so.

2. Not only will the banquet include the announcement of the IAJGS
Achievement Awards, the wonderful entertainment by Yisrael Campbell,
but there will also be drawings for 3 prizes. Those prizes are 4
hours of research by the following individuals (and the country of
research): Jordan Auslander (U.S.); Michael Goldstein (Israel); and
Anthony Joseph (U.K). If you have not yet purchased your banquet(s),
be sure to do so before the deadline of July 19, 2009 (midnight U.S.
central time). Don't miss out on the fun way to end the hectic
conference week.

We thank Jordan, Michael, and Anthony for generously contributing
their professional time and expertise for these drawings.

We also encourage you to look at the list of breakfasts with experts,
SIG lunches, workshops and tours. Any one, or more of them, will
enhance your conference experience because they are certainly worth
attending. Make sure you purchase your ticket(s) for these events to
guarantee that you get a space.

One of the workshops is already full and we have added a repeat
performance (A second beginner/intermediate Family Tree Maker session
will be held on Thursday, August 6 >from 8:15 to 10:15 AM.)

The breakfast (Monday, August 3, 7 AM - 8 AM) with Miriam Weiner and
Olga Muzychuk, experts, is almost filled to capacity. Don't wait a
moment if you want to attend that breakfast.

The conference website is www.philly2009.org That is where you go to
register, update your registration and learn all about the great
things that will be going on there. Be sure to click on the various
buttons to find details.

See you in a month,

Anne Feder Lee and David Mink
Philly2009 Co-Chairs
Information@philly2009.org


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Breaking News Re. Philly2009 #yiddish

bounce-1857224-772983@...
 

We are very pleased to share the following good news with everyone.

1. All conference registrants staying at the Sheraton hotel will
receive complimentary internet access in their guest room. If you
have not yet made your hotel reservation, do so without delay to
take advantage of this great deal. Use the link at the conference
website (the Hotel Registration button) to do so.

2. Not only will the banquet include the announcement of the IAJGS
Achievement Awards, the wonderful entertainment by Yisrael Campbell,
but there will also be drawings for 3 prizes. Those prizes are 4
hours of research by the following individuals (and the country of
research): Jordan Auslander (U.S.); Michael Goldstein (Israel); and
Anthony Joseph (U.K). If you have not yet purchased your banquet(s),
be sure to do so before the deadline of July 19, 2009 (midnight U.S.
central time). Don't miss out on the fun way to end the hectic
conference week.

We thank Jordan, Michael, and Anthony for generously contributing
their professional time and expertise for these drawings.

We also encourage you to look at the list of breakfasts with experts,
SIG lunches, workshops and tours. Any one, or more of them, will
enhance your conference experience because they are certainly worth
attending. Make sure you purchase your ticket(s) for these events to
guarantee that you get a space.

One of the workshops is already full and we have added a repeat
performance (A second beginner/intermediate Family Tree Maker session
will be held on Thursday, August 6 >from 8:15 to 10:15 AM.)

The breakfast (Monday, August 3, 7 AM - 8 AM) with Miriam Weiner and
Olga Muzychuk, experts, is almost filled to capacity. Don't wait a
moment if you want to attend that breakfast.

The conference website is www.philly2009.org That is where you go to
register, update your registration and learn all about the great
things that will be going on there. Be sure to click on the various
buttons to find details.

See you in a month,

Anne Feder Lee and David Mink
Philly2009 Co-Chairs
Information@philly2009.org


Re: Symbol of open book on tombstone #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

Was her husband a Rabbi? I cannot think of any other explanation.

Marc DVer

Lori Swartz wrote:

X-No-archive: yes
I have recently found the grave of great-great-great grandmother
...Her tombstone has an
open book etched onto the top of the tombstone. I have been looking
for the interpretations on what the book means, but I can't find any.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Symbol of open book on tombstone #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

Was her husband a Rabbi? I cannot think of any other explanation.

Marc DVer

Lori Swartz wrote:

X-No-archive: yes
I have recently found the grave of great-great-great grandmother
...Her tombstone has an
open book etched onto the top of the tombstone. I have been looking
for the interpretations on what the book means, but I can't find any.


Re: Symbol of open book on tombstone #general

gilah@...
 

Lori Swartz wrote:
"I have recently found the grave of great-great-great grandmother...
Her tombstone has an open book etched onto the top of the tombstone...."

My copy of Joshua L. Segal's "A Field Guide to Visiting a Jewish Cemetery"
indicates that if the book is not associated with a profession
(i.e., bookbinder/scholar) it probably symbolizes the book of life.
--
Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ

Lubin/Labun/Yurovshchina (Ukraine): GARBER, MAZEWITSKY, MORRIS,
MALZMANN, MYERS, KESTLEMAN
Radautz, Czernowitz: LIEBROSS, WENKERT, WEINGART
Kazan (Belarus): WILENSKY, WILSON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Symbol of open book on tombstone #general

gilah@...
 

Lori Swartz wrote:
"I have recently found the grave of great-great-great grandmother...
Her tombstone has an open book etched onto the top of the tombstone...."

My copy of Joshua L. Segal's "A Field Guide to Visiting a Jewish Cemetery"
indicates that if the book is not associated with a profession
(i.e., bookbinder/scholar) it probably symbolizes the book of life.
--
Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ

Lubin/Labun/Yurovshchina (Ukraine): GARBER, MAZEWITSKY, MORRIS,
MALZMANN, MYERS, KESTLEMAN
Radautz, Czernowitz: LIEBROSS, WENKERT, WEINGART
Kazan (Belarus): WILENSKY, WILSON


Re: Phone numbers #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

Mr Zavos said: "In the 1920s to late 40s phones in the USA had 6 digits
and went to 7 around the 1950s."

This may have been true in NYC, but smaller towns had smaller numbers.
The small city (about 15,000 population) where my Aunt and Uncle lived
had a 4 digit number in the 50's, the earliest I remember, and didn't
get to the full 7 digits until area codes and direct dialing happened.
They lived in the same house all the time, but the phone number got
larger. And yes, they are one of the families who lived in the same
house for about 50 years and left the house to their kids.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Need photo of a stone in Edmonton Federated cemetery in London #general

Hilary Henkin
 

Dear Bob,
Some years back, I had success with this very cemetery by mailing
them a one-use camera. They took the photos and sent the camera back
to me. This was a "film" camera in pre-digital days, but I think
one-use or cheap digital cameras are available now.

If you do this, use a reusable box/shipping container, include a
return label, and postage if you can (You could go to a
coin-and-stamp store to buy British stamps). Put your name on the camera.

Hilary Henkin

At 03:25 PM 7/1/2009, Bob Roudman wrote:
Dear JGeners,

Would someone in the London U.K. area be able to take a photo of a
stone in the Edmonton Federated cemetery in London. I have the name
and plot number. Any suggestions as how to obtain a photo at
Edmonton would be most welcome.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Phone numbers #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

Mr Zavos said: "In the 1920s to late 40s phones in the USA had 6 digits
and went to 7 around the 1950s."

This may have been true in NYC, but smaller towns had smaller numbers.
The small city (about 15,000 population) where my Aunt and Uncle lived
had a 4 digit number in the 50's, the earliest I remember, and didn't
get to the full 7 digits until area codes and direct dialing happened.
They lived in the same house all the time, but the phone number got
larger. And yes, they are one of the families who lived in the same
house for about 50 years and left the house to their kids.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need photo of a stone in Edmonton Federated cemetery in London #general

Hilary Henkin
 

Dear Bob,
Some years back, I had success with this very cemetery by mailing
them a one-use camera. They took the photos and sent the camera back
to me. This was a "film" camera in pre-digital days, but I think
one-use or cheap digital cameras are available now.

If you do this, use a reusable box/shipping container, include a
return label, and postage if you can (You could go to a
coin-and-stamp store to buy British stamps). Put your name on the camera.

Hilary Henkin

At 03:25 PM 7/1/2009, Bob Roudman wrote:
Dear JGeners,

Would someone in the London U.K. area be able to take a photo of a
stone in the Edmonton Federated cemetery in London. I have the name
and plot number. Any suggestions as how to obtain a photo at
Edmonton would be most welcome.


Re: WULFF/GODCHAUX/MOREL: Lessons in name origins #general

Micheline GUTMANN
 

May I precise the information mentioned by Michael Bernet?
Godchaux is a first name used in Lorraine, the equivalent in Alsace is
Goetschel, Eliakim in Hebrew, yes.
The family GODCHAUX, several times studied in GenAmi review, arrived from
Bonn, Germany to Metz. Called Godchaux BONN then only GODCHAUX in Nancy.
MOREL was effectively Moyse, chose this name at Gent in 1808.
Joseph Moritz WULFF came >from Lübeck.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
Web site GenAmi www.genami.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: WULFF/GODCHAUX/MOREL: Lessons in name origins #general

Micheline GUTMANN
 

May I precise the information mentioned by Michael Bernet?
Godchaux is a first name used in Lorraine, the equivalent in Alsace is
Goetschel, Eliakim in Hebrew, yes.
The family GODCHAUX, several times studied in GenAmi review, arrived from
Bonn, Germany to Metz. Called Godchaux BONN then only GODCHAUX in Nancy.
MOREL was effectively Moyse, chose this name at Gent in 1808.
Joseph Moritz WULFF came >from Lübeck.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
Web site GenAmi www.genami.org


Re: Jewish sounding Surnames #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Lucinda,

I certainly second the motion as I had an Annie Webber b. 1897 >from Halifax
marrying into my Singman/Rosenberg family who I assumed was not Jewish
And after researching her for a year was told by her descendents that she
did not marry a Rosenberg. So I threw out all I had researched and started
from square one finding the correct Annie Webber and a large Jewish family
of Webber brothers that has led me to her family in Halfiax, St. John and
Boston.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

---
So many Jews are misinformed when it comes to what "sounds Jewish" and
well-meaning statements such as, "that surname doesn't really sound
Jewish" is a potential stumbling block to those who are researching
our roots. Had I listened to naysayers who offered such responses
when I first came to this listserve to find links to my Jewish roots,
I never would have found the pieces of a big historical puzzle I was
missing. But, Thank God I persevered, despite the negative comments
because there were a few astute people on here who knew a surname
doesn't have to "sound Jewish" to be the surname of a member of the
Tribe.
...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Jewish sounding Surnames #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Lucinda,

I certainly second the motion as I had an Annie Webber b. 1897 >from Halifax
marrying into my Singman/Rosenberg family who I assumed was not Jewish
And after researching her for a year was told by her descendents that she
did not marry a Rosenberg. So I threw out all I had researched and started
from square one finding the correct Annie Webber and a large Jewish family
of Webber brothers that has led me to her family in Halfiax, St. John and
Boston.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

---
So many Jews are misinformed when it comes to what "sounds Jewish" and
well-meaning statements such as, "that surname doesn't really sound
Jewish" is a potential stumbling block to those who are researching
our roots. Had I listened to naysayers who offered such responses
when I first came to this listserve to find links to my Jewish roots,
I never would have found the pieces of a big historical puzzle I was
missing. But, Thank God I persevered, despite the negative comments
because there were a few astute people on here who knew a surname
doesn't have to "sound Jewish" to be the surname of a member of the
Tribe.
...


Re: jcr-uk digest: June 30, 2009 - 3. WULFF, GODCHAUX and MOREL #unitedkingdom

mbenedict51@...
 

I believe that one of the two major sites for UK migration records has
outbound passenger lists, including the one for the Titanic. One has
inbound, and one outbound records so, as soon as you look at which
records are held by each, it will be obvious which is the relevant
site, if you are looking for a record of the husband's outbound trip on
the Titanic.

Mary Benedict
London





Subject: WULFF, GODCHAUX and MOREL
From: lachaus@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:07:34 +0000
X-Message-Number: 3

I am assisting Fabien GODCHAUX, who is a French-speaker, in finding out some
information on his relatives as follows:

He is seeking to find out the name of Angèle WULLF's husband.
She moved (around 1900) with her husband to England, who was probably
English. It is Fabien's understanding that her husband was a passenger
on the Titanic and did not survive.

...

Paula HAUSER
Brussels


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: June 30, 2009 - 3. WULFF, GODCHAUX and MOREL #unitedkingdom

mbenedict51@...
 

I believe that one of the two major sites for UK migration records has
outbound passenger lists, including the one for the Titanic. One has
inbound, and one outbound records so, as soon as you look at which
records are held by each, it will be obvious which is the relevant
site, if you are looking for a record of the husband's outbound trip on
the Titanic.

Mary Benedict
London





Subject: WULFF, GODCHAUX and MOREL
From: lachaus@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:07:34 +0000
X-Message-Number: 3

I am assisting Fabien GODCHAUX, who is a French-speaker, in finding out some
information on his relatives as follows:

He is seeking to find out the name of Angèle WULLF's husband.
She moved (around 1900) with her husband to England, who was probably
English. It is Fabien's understanding that her husband was a passenger
on the Titanic and did not survive.

...

Paula HAUSER
Brussels


Facebook-- subject of JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura Meeting #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Meeting: JGS of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)--California,
USA July 12, 2009 1:30 p.m.-3:30 p.m.

Program: Facebook: The Ins and Outs of the On-Line Social Networking Utility
to Find Relatives and Others

Originally launched in 2004 at Harvard, Facebook grew to be the most popular
social networking web site in English-speaking countries today with over 200
million users. In minutes, with no prior experience you can find, those
elusive cousins (and maybe some others you did not know about).

Michael Gallop, will discuss his success on Facebook and demonstrate
how to make your family tree come alive and provide
invaluable knowledge about your family! Michael has been working on his
genealogy for almost 20 years and has collected a tremendous amount of
information about his family. However, it wasn't until he joined Facebook
that he actually developed a relationship with many of his relatives and
realized how useful those relationships were in helping him uncover
information on his relatives he never would have been able to obtain
otherwise. Imagine being able to use your computer to connect with your
relatives and have them help you with your research just as if you had
interviewed them all personally. Michael is an estate and charitable
planner. Following Michael's presentation, JGSCV Board Members will share
their successes with Facebook.

The meeting is open to all and there is no charge. The meeting is
co-sponsored with and held at Temple Adat Elohim, Thousand Oaks, CA

For more information regarding the meeting, including directions to the
location, visit our website, www.JGSCV.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Facebook-- subject of JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura Meeting #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Meeting: JGS of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)--California,
USA July 12, 2009 1:30 p.m.-3:30 p.m.

Program: Facebook: The Ins and Outs of the On-Line Social Networking Utility
to Find Relatives and Others

Originally launched in 2004 at Harvard, Facebook grew to be the most popular
social networking web site in English-speaking countries today with over 200
million users. In minutes, with no prior experience you can find, those
elusive cousins (and maybe some others you did not know about).

Michael Gallop, will discuss his success on Facebook and demonstrate
how to make your family tree come alive and provide
invaluable knowledge about your family! Michael has been working on his
genealogy for almost 20 years and has collected a tremendous amount of
information about his family. However, it wasn't until he joined Facebook
that he actually developed a relationship with many of his relatives and
realized how useful those relationships were in helping him uncover
information on his relatives he never would have been able to obtain
otherwise. Imagine being able to use your computer to connect with your
relatives and have them help you with your research just as if you had
interviewed them all personally. Michael is an estate and charitable
planner. Following Michael's presentation, JGSCV Board Members will share
their successes with Facebook.

The meeting is open to all and there is no charge. The meeting is
co-sponsored with and held at Temple Adat Elohim, Thousand Oaks, CA

For more information regarding the meeting, including directions to the
location, visit our website, www.JGSCV.org

Jan Meisels Allen
President, JGSCV


Re: Bribing to get out of concentration camps #general

celiamale@...
 

I am indeed surprised at this correspondence - it was very well known
that wealthy Viennese Jews and their sons [>from late teens upwards]
were effectively taken hostage quite early in the National Socialist
era on trumped-up charges [ie well before the Kristallnacht] and sent
to Buchenwald and Dachau to be ransomed by their frantic families for
large amounts of money. I think ransom is a more suitable term than
bribing. The prison guards were hardly involved in these "high-profile"
cases.

If they were unfortunate to die there in "an incident", the families
could purchase *their*? ashes to be buried in Vienna. I have written
about this a number of times on the Austria-Czech SIG. Use keywords
"celia ashes" to search the SIG message archives. The victims can
often be identified in the IKG cemetery database if there is a big
discrepancy in the date of death [1938] and burial [of the ashes].

Other early Austrian prisoners included those who were deemed
politically or otherwise undesirable - ie they were not taken for
financial reasons. These may not have had enough money to be ransomed
and their fate was inevitable. Perhaps prison guards were bribable
for small amounts of money in these cases - I have no evidence.

See this picture: Fritz SCHLESINGER came >from a very wealthy and
influential Viennese family indireclty associated to my family - and
read my commentary: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/646487558/

Two other much closer Viennese family members were captured for
ransom - one died trying to escape and one was indeed ransomed by his
very wealthy father. The family {father, mother and two sons} then
settled in the UK.

You may also wish to visit my growing pictorial holocaust site -
"Holocaust Memorials - public and private"

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/sets/72157603905805036/

In the next few weeks, many more pictures will be added following
my visit to Slovakia {Galanta, Trnva, Vrbove cemeteries}.

Celia Male, London, U.K.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Bribing to get out of concentration camps #general

celiamale@...
 

I am indeed surprised at this correspondence - it was very well known
that wealthy Viennese Jews and their sons [>from late teens upwards]
were effectively taken hostage quite early in the National Socialist
era on trumped-up charges [ie well before the Kristallnacht] and sent
to Buchenwald and Dachau to be ransomed by their frantic families for
large amounts of money. I think ransom is a more suitable term than
bribing. The prison guards were hardly involved in these "high-profile"
cases.

If they were unfortunate to die there in "an incident", the families
could purchase *their*? ashes to be buried in Vienna. I have written
about this a number of times on the Austria-Czech SIG. Use keywords
"celia ashes" to search the SIG message archives. The victims can
often be identified in the IKG cemetery database if there is a big
discrepancy in the date of death [1938] and burial [of the ashes].

Other early Austrian prisoners included those who were deemed
politically or otherwise undesirable - ie they were not taken for
financial reasons. These may not have had enough money to be ransomed
and their fate was inevitable. Perhaps prison guards were bribable
for small amounts of money in these cases - I have no evidence.

See this picture: Fritz SCHLESINGER came >from a very wealthy and
influential Viennese family indireclty associated to my family - and
read my commentary: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/646487558/

Two other much closer Viennese family members were captured for
ransom - one died trying to escape and one was indeed ransomed by his
very wealthy father. The family {father, mother and two sons} then
settled in the UK.

You may also wish to visit my growing pictorial holocaust site -
"Holocaust Memorials - public and private"

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cam37/sets/72157603905805036/

In the next few weeks, many more pictures will be added following
my visit to Slovakia {Galanta, Trnva, Vrbove cemeteries}.

Celia Male, London, U.K.