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Cloister of the Jesuits in Plock during WWI #general

Lili Susser <susserl@...>
 

Hi,

I remember my mother telling of the time during the first ww of having stayed in the
Cloister of the Jesuits in Plock, while my father was in the military. Can anyone
verify that this was common at this time?

Lili Susser
Susserl@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cloister of the Jesuits in Plock during WWI #general

Lili Susser <susserl@...>
 

Hi,

I remember my mother telling of the time during the first ww of having stayed in the
Cloister of the Jesuits in Plock, while my father was in the military. Can anyone
verify that this was common at this time?

Lili Susser
Susserl@comcast.net


Re: Bobriusk tsaddik? #general

news@...
 

mpcamitta@aol.com writes:
A relation of mine told me that our BASSEIN family in Bobriusk was related to a
tsaddik. He sent me a photo of Mendel BASSEIN'S tombstone which he said was right
next to the tsaddik's burial vault. He said that people vyed for the honor of
being buried next to the tsaddik. Mendel, he thought, was a prominent merchant,
which is why he may be buried next to the tsaddik's grave.
Interesting that you should mention this in connection with Bobruisk, because
there's a Chassidic story about somebody being buried next to a tsaddik who was the
rabbi of Bobruisk: see pages 156-157 of "A Treasury of Chassidic Tales on the
Torah", vol. 1, by Rabbi S.Y. Zevin,
<http://books.google.ca/books?id=NnyuhrzRDCMC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false>.
However, in this story the tsaddik, Reb Hillel of Paritsh, was buried in Kherson,
and the person buried next to him was a pauper.

Robert Israel israel@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bobriusk tsaddik? #general

news@...
 

mpcamitta@aol.com writes:
A relation of mine told me that our BASSEIN family in Bobriusk was related to a
tsaddik. He sent me a photo of Mendel BASSEIN'S tombstone which he said was right
next to the tsaddik's burial vault. He said that people vyed for the honor of
being buried next to the tsaddik. Mendel, he thought, was a prominent merchant,
which is why he may be buried next to the tsaddik's grave.
Interesting that you should mention this in connection with Bobruisk, because
there's a Chassidic story about somebody being buried next to a tsaddik who was the
rabbi of Bobruisk: see pages 156-157 of "A Treasury of Chassidic Tales on the
Torah", vol. 1, by Rabbi S.Y. Zevin,
<http://books.google.ca/books?id=NnyuhrzRDCMC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false>.
However, in this story the tsaddik, Reb Hillel of Paritsh, was buried in Kherson,
and the person buried next to him was a pauper.

Robert Israel israel@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: This is the tinyurl for the longer URL mentioned above:
http://tinyurl.com/luff5t


BAER family #general

Ivan <igreenhut@...>
 

I'm searching for my relative Donald (Donnie) BAER who graduated >from Central High '
School Muskogee, OK. in 1969. Can anyone help me?

Ivan Greenhut


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BAER family #general

Ivan <igreenhut@...>
 

I'm searching for my relative Donald (Donnie) BAER who graduated >from Central High '
School Muskogee, OK. in 1969. Can anyone help me?

Ivan Greenhut


Re: NYC Archives #general

news@...
 

See the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exemplified_copy

It appears that this is merely needed for certain authentication purposes. It does
not appear to provide any additional information.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer

Irene & Paul Berman wrote:

I wish to order a certified death certificate for a relative at the NYC Archives
of Vital Records. The online instructions give the possibility of ordering a
"letter of exemplification" for an additional fee. Does anyone know what a
"letter of exemplification" is? >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Archives #general

news@...
 

See the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exemplified_copy

It appears that this is merely needed for certain authentication purposes. It does
not appear to provide any additional information.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer

Irene & Paul Berman wrote:

I wish to order a certified death certificate for a relative at the NYC Archives
of Vital Records. The online instructions give the possibility of ordering a
"letter of exemplification" for an additional fee. Does anyone know what a
"letter of exemplification" is? >


Memorial Book of Chudnov #general

Glynne
 

I was searching in Google Books and came up with the following book. Does anyone
know how can get get a copy of it: Memorial book of Chudnov Authors Mar'iam Sandal,
Harry Langsam, Publisher Seagull Press, 2006L ength115 pages. I couldn't find
anymore information anywhere.

Gay Lynne Kegan
Searching Gomer, Gammer, Meierson >from Chudnov, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Memorial Book of Chudnov #general

Glynne
 

I was searching in Google Books and came up with the following book. Does anyone
know how can get get a copy of it: Memorial book of Chudnov Authors Mar'iam Sandal,
Harry Langsam, Publisher Seagull Press, 2006L ength115 pages. I couldn't find
anymore information anywhere.

Gay Lynne Kegan
Searching Gomer, Gammer, Meierson >from Chudnov, Ukraine


Genealogy Standards: Names of Cities and Countries? #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Howard Lewin began this thread with the question "Has any standard evolved on how
to list these cities on one's family tree?" Many valid opinions were subsequently
expressed.

My response specifically differentiated between family trees and other purposes and
referenced Gary Mokotoff's article, "A Proposed Standard for Names, Dates and
Places In a Genealogical Database" for his opinion.

Another opinion is expressed in Steve's Genealogy Blog article "Describing Place
Names in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" at
http://stephendanko.com/blog/?s=describing+place+names.

Bette Mas
Florida, USA

Bette Mas wrote:
< My standard is to use the town/country name that is relevant to the date of the
birth/marriage/death event. Then in "Ancestral Town" notes, I add coordinates,
historical border changes and updated town/country name information... For
JewishGen Family Finder and other purposes, the standard is the modern town/country
name. >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy Standards: Names of Cities and Countries? #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Howard Lewin began this thread with the question "Has any standard evolved on how
to list these cities on one's family tree?" Many valid opinions were subsequently
expressed.

My response specifically differentiated between family trees and other purposes and
referenced Gary Mokotoff's article, "A Proposed Standard for Names, Dates and
Places In a Genealogical Database" for his opinion.

Another opinion is expressed in Steve's Genealogy Blog article "Describing Place
Names in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" at
http://stephendanko.com/blog/?s=describing+place+names.

Bette Mas
Florida, USA

Bette Mas wrote:
< My standard is to use the town/country name that is relevant to the date of the
birth/marriage/death event. Then in "Ancestral Town" notes, I add coordinates,
historical border changes and updated town/country name information... For
JewishGen Family Finder and other purposes, the standard is the modern town/country
name. >


Slichas Revisited #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

Re: Slichas. Usually I thank each respondent personally, but I received over 30
responses, so hope you all don't mind being thanked anonymously. So, thank you very,
very much. I learned quite a bit, once I got the spelling right, and googled it.

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Slichas Revisited #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

Re: Slichas. Usually I thank each respondent personally, but I received over 30
responses, so hope you all don't mind being thanked anonymously. So, thank you very,
very much. I learned quite a bit, once I got the spelling right, and googled it.

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


Re: errors in death certificates #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

Everybody who finds errors on Death Certificates should keep in mind that Primary
Sources are the best sources of information. A Primary Source is a document which
was made at the time of an event. A birth record for a birth time and place, a
death record for the death time and place.

However, for other information on a death record is a Secondary source. Somebody
said the person was >from a place and the parents were whatever - but the
information is only as good as the source. It may be very valuable (if it is
right), or it may be totally wrong.

My ggrandmother's death certificate gave me her parents' names - last name Hirsch
is very common, but the first names weren't. A Sarah Hirsch was on the Hamburg
Passenger Lists at about the right year, and she was >from Massow, Pomerania. Guess
what? The records were at the LDS, and her parents' names were the same.
Wonderful.

However, since her husband never met her parents (as far as I know), having come
from the other end of today's Germany, he might well have not known or mixed
something up in his grief.

I have spent a lot of time searching for people who weren't where they were
supposed to have come >from or whose parents weren't who they were supposed to have
been, or who weren't born where they said. That is life in genealogy.

Mostly, after much persistance, I have found out the truth. My ggrandfather
(another one) was not born in London but Amsterdam, for an example. I have his
birth record, a Primary source for his birth information.

Sally Bruckheimer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: errors in death certificates #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

Everybody who finds errors on Death Certificates should keep in mind that Primary
Sources are the best sources of information. A Primary Source is a document which
was made at the time of an event. A birth record for a birth time and place, a
death record for the death time and place.

However, for other information on a death record is a Secondary source. Somebody
said the person was >from a place and the parents were whatever - but the
information is only as good as the source. It may be very valuable (if it is
right), or it may be totally wrong.

My ggrandmother's death certificate gave me her parents' names - last name Hirsch
is very common, but the first names weren't. A Sarah Hirsch was on the Hamburg
Passenger Lists at about the right year, and she was >from Massow, Pomerania. Guess
what? The records were at the LDS, and her parents' names were the same.
Wonderful.

However, since her husband never met her parents (as far as I know), having come
from the other end of today's Germany, he might well have not known or mixed
something up in his grief.

I have spent a lot of time searching for people who weren't where they were
supposed to have come >from or whose parents weren't who they were supposed to have
been, or who weren't born where they said. That is life in genealogy.

Mostly, after much persistance, I have found out the truth. My ggrandfather
(another one) was not born in London but Amsterdam, for an example. I have his
birth record, a Primary source for his birth information.

Sally Bruckheimer


Re: errors in death certificates. #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I have a death certificate here in New York that shows a woman buried at a certain
cemetery on the certificate. When I called that cemetery they were frantically
searching their records and very upset that they could not find the grave.

It turned out the death certificate had the wrong cemetery name on it!

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: errors in death certificates. #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I have a death certificate here in New York that shows a woman buried at a certain
cemetery on the certificate. When I called that cemetery they were frantically
searching their records and very upset that they could not find the grave.

It turned out the death certificate had the wrong cemetery name on it!

Allan Jordan


How to locate "actes d'etat-civil" in France? #france

yael polat
 

I know that it is possible to obtain confirmations of deaths or births
or marriage acts, through internet sites of city halls in France, but
I get answers saying the events didn't take place there. Where can I
get the information where the events took place?
For example, I was told some uncle died in Paris, but I received an
answer saying they don't have mention of the event. It was in 1955,
not that long ago. How can I be sure I gave them the right name (maybe
he was registered under another first name)? How can I check if it
was registered in one of Paris's suburbs? How accurate are the searches
made by their services?
I had a few problems with different persons, while looking for
different acts, sometimes it seems as the person never existed!
Yael POLAT
Ramat-Gan ISRAEL
searching: Lopatnik, Dinin, Weinberg, Benadi, Suissa.


French SIG #France How to locate "actes d'etat-civil" in France? #france

yael polat
 

I know that it is possible to obtain confirmations of deaths or births
or marriage acts, through internet sites of city halls in France, but
I get answers saying the events didn't take place there. Where can I
get the information where the events took place?
For example, I was told some uncle died in Paris, but I received an
answer saying they don't have mention of the event. It was in 1955,
not that long ago. How can I be sure I gave them the right name (maybe
he was registered under another first name)? How can I check if it
was registered in one of Paris's suburbs? How accurate are the searches
made by their services?
I had a few problems with different persons, while looking for
different acts, sometimes it seems as the person never existed!
Yael POLAT
Ramat-Gan ISRAEL
searching: Lopatnik, Dinin, Weinberg, Benadi, Suissa.