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Butrimonys cemetery #general

Marcia Pailet Abrams Jaffe
 

Our project for the Butrimonys Jewish cemetery in Lithuania of photographing
and translating more than 550 tombstones has been finished for several
months. It is now on JOWBR for everyone to access. My husband Mike and I
photographed the tombstones and Regina Kopilevich translated them.

Marcia Pailet-Abrams Jaffe

MODERATOR NOTE: The JOWBR may be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Butrimonys cemetery #general

Marcia Pailet Abrams Jaffe
 

Our project for the Butrimonys Jewish cemetery in Lithuania of photographing
and translating more than 550 tombstones has been finished for several
months. It is now on JOWBR for everyone to access. My husband Mike and I
photographed the tombstones and Regina Kopilevich translated them.

Marcia Pailet-Abrams Jaffe

MODERATOR NOTE: The JOWBR may be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/


Tzvi=Hirsch and more #general

Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...>
 

You have more or less answered your own question. Though there is a
strong possibility that these references are to the same individual,
they can, alternatively, be cousins or even unrelated.
I certainly have many cases in my own family of similarly named
cousins. This is particularly true if the ancestor in question lived
a long life. There will be a long gap where nobody has the name,
then upon his/her death, you get a bunch of great grandchildren, etc.
with the name, all born within a few years (and miles) of each other.

You will need further documentation to reveal which is the most likely option.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

Would it, therefore, be safe to assume that Tzvi Binyamin LEBENSOLD and
Beniamin Hersz LEBENSOLD - both born in Warsaw in about 1860 -

would be the same individual?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tzvi=Hirsch and more #general

Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...>
 

You have more or less answered your own question. Though there is a
strong possibility that these references are to the same individual,
they can, alternatively, be cousins or even unrelated.
I certainly have many cases in my own family of similarly named
cousins. This is particularly true if the ancestor in question lived
a long life. There will be a long gap where nobody has the name,
then upon his/her death, you get a bunch of great grandchildren, etc.
with the name, all born within a few years (and miles) of each other.

You will need further documentation to reveal which is the most likely option.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia

Would it, therefore, be safe to assume that Tzvi Binyamin LEBENSOLD and
Beniamin Hersz LEBENSOLD - both born in Warsaw in about 1860 -

would be the same individual?


Re: Hersz = Tzvi? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

peter@... (Peter Lebensold) writes:
Would it, therefore, be safe to assume that Tzvi Binyamin LEBENSOLD and
Beniamin Hersz LEBENSOLD - both born in Warsaw in about 1860 -
would be the same individual?
Very few things are safe to assume. It could well be that these are the
same person, Tzvi Binyamin being the Hebrew version, which might
be used on a gravestone, while Beniamin Hersz is a secular version.
But, as you say, they might actually be cousins. That they are not closely
related is rather less likely, given that LEBENSOLD is not a very common
surname, but stranger things have happened.

Robert Israel israel@...
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hersz = Tzvi? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

peter@... (Peter Lebensold) writes:
Would it, therefore, be safe to assume that Tzvi Binyamin LEBENSOLD and
Beniamin Hersz LEBENSOLD - both born in Warsaw in about 1860 -
would be the same individual?
Very few things are safe to assume. It could well be that these are the
same person, Tzvi Binyamin being the Hebrew version, which might
be used on a gravestone, while Beniamin Hersz is a secular version.
But, as you say, they might actually be cousins. That they are not closely
related is rather less likely, given that LEBENSOLD is not a very common
surname, but stranger things have happened.

Robert Israel israel@...
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada


Seeking HELFER relatives - **possible genetic disorder** #galicia

Joyce Eastman
 

I am presently trying to find living HELFER relatives >from in
and around the Brody, Poland area to alert them about a possible
genetic disorder in the family involving two genes and is passed
on by only one carrier to their children. The disease can be
caused by a defect in only one or both genes - and I imagine
that the more severe manifestations of this disease appear when
both genes are affected. These defective genes were only
discovered in the 1970's, and the name of the genetic disorder
is tuberous sclerosis.

This disorder been passed along to me and my cousins through the
paternal side of the family. My uncle had more severe "reddish
spots" on his face, and all of his 3 children were severely
retarded. My father (his fraternal twin) had a milder version of
the "reddish spots" and as an only child I have a less severe
manifestation, which was also passed on to my children by me.
However, my father had a younger sister who was so severely
affected that she died by the age of 5 and had many of the
symptoms of the disease. Below is a brief Wikipedia description
of the disease. I would encourage anyone who believes they might
have this genetic disorder (for which there is no cure) to
contact their family doctor.

"Tuberous sclerosis or tuberous sclerosis complex (TSC) is a rare,
multi-system genetic disease that causes benign tumors to grow in
the brain and on other vital organs such as the kidneys, heart,
eyes, lungs, and skin..." [For the rest of the Wikipedia article
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberous_sclerosis - MOD]

HELFER was the surname of my paternal grandmother (passed on from
her mother). ZINKER (ZINKOWER) was the surname of her father. I
have already researched the paternal side of my family - WILDER /
HONIG but apparently there are no living relatives on that side
of the family with any manifestations of this genetic disorder,
which is why I am now looking to any living HELFER family
relatives. To date I have been unable to locate any living HELFER /
ZINKER (ZINKOWER) relatives.

I should note that all of this was brought to my attention by my
dermatologist, during a routine skin cancer examination. He
showed me a medical book that detailed all of these symptoms with
pictures, and he also sent me to a geneticist for further
information on this genetic disorder. Without his help I would
never have realized the underlying cause of some of the health
issues my family and I have faced over the years.

**Please reply privately** to wildwoman@.... I can
provide a more specific description of the manifestations of this
genetic disorder to those who are interested, as well as to any
who might possibly be related to me and my family.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

Currently researching:
WILDER / HONIG, HELFER / ZINKER (ZINKOWER) - Brody, Poland
SCHEIER / RUFEISEN - Biala / Stanislawow, Poland


SCHWIMMER in New Rochelle #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

After many years, I have finally found the given and married name
of a cousin who spent some time in an orphanage when her mother
died and her father couldn't take care of her. Her married name
was Belle or Bella SCHWIMMER. She was living in New Rochelle, NY
in 1946 when she was the informant on her father's death
certificate. His name was Daniel GEIGER. He was >from Radomysl
Wielkie.

I found Belle in the Social Security deaths on Ancestry. Does
anyone know her children? Grandchildren? I thought about writing
to New Rochelle synagogues but 1946 was a long time ago.

Suzan Wynne


Hersz = Tzvi? #general

roe kard
 

Would it, therefore, be safe to assume that Tzvi Binyamin LEBENSOLD
and Beniamin Hersz LEBENSOLD - both born in Warsaw in about 1860 -
would be the same individual? (Or is there always the danger that they
were first cousins, sharing the same grandfather?)

My research says it's not a definite "NO" just a "not safe to assume."
I had the same thing happen in my family with a reversal of the names
"Moshe Yitzchak" & "Eisig Moses" and finally, finally found out,
after much searching AND having made that assumption too, that they
were different people and named after the different grandfathers of
their respective parents.

Shana Tova!

Karen ROEKARD
aka Gitel Chaye Eta ROSENFELD ROKART


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Seeking HELFER relatives - **possible genetic disorder** #galicia

Joyce Eastman
 

I am presently trying to find living HELFER relatives >from in
and around the Brody, Poland area to alert them about a possible
genetic disorder in the family involving two genes and is passed
on by only one carrier to their children. The disease can be
caused by a defect in only one or both genes - and I imagine
that the more severe manifestations of this disease appear when
both genes are affected. These defective genes were only
discovered in the 1970's, and the name of the genetic disorder
is tuberous sclerosis.

This disorder been passed along to me and my cousins through the
paternal side of the family. My uncle had more severe "reddish
spots" on his face, and all of his 3 children were severely
retarded. My father (his fraternal twin) had a milder version of
the "reddish spots" and as an only child I have a less severe
manifestation, which was also passed on to my children by me.
However, my father had a younger sister who was so severely
affected that she died by the age of 5 and had many of the
symptoms of the disease. Below is a brief Wikipedia description
of the disease. I would encourage anyone who believes they might
have this genetic disorder (for which there is no cure) to
contact their family doctor.

"Tuberous sclerosis or tuberous sclerosis complex (TSC) is a rare,
multi-system genetic disease that causes benign tumors to grow in
the brain and on other vital organs such as the kidneys, heart,
eyes, lungs, and skin..." [For the rest of the Wikipedia article
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberous_sclerosis - MOD]

HELFER was the surname of my paternal grandmother (passed on from
her mother). ZINKER (ZINKOWER) was the surname of her father. I
have already researched the paternal side of my family - WILDER /
HONIG but apparently there are no living relatives on that side
of the family with any manifestations of this genetic disorder,
which is why I am now looking to any living HELFER family
relatives. To date I have been unable to locate any living HELFER /
ZINKER (ZINKOWER) relatives.

I should note that all of this was brought to my attention by my
dermatologist, during a routine skin cancer examination. He
showed me a medical book that detailed all of these symptoms with
pictures, and he also sent me to a geneticist for further
information on this genetic disorder. Without his help I would
never have realized the underlying cause of some of the health
issues my family and I have faced over the years.

**Please reply privately** to wildwoman@.... I can
provide a more specific description of the manifestations of this
genetic disorder to those who are interested, as well as to any
who might possibly be related to me and my family.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

Currently researching:
WILDER / HONIG, HELFER / ZINKER (ZINKOWER) - Brody, Poland
SCHEIER / RUFEISEN - Biala / Stanislawow, Poland


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia SCHWIMMER in New Rochelle #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

After many years, I have finally found the given and married name
of a cousin who spent some time in an orphanage when her mother
died and her father couldn't take care of her. Her married name
was Belle or Bella SCHWIMMER. She was living in New Rochelle, NY
in 1946 when she was the informant on her father's death
certificate. His name was Daniel GEIGER. He was >from Radomysl
Wielkie.

I found Belle in the Social Security deaths on Ancestry. Does
anyone know her children? Grandchildren? I thought about writing
to New Rochelle synagogues but 1946 was a long time ago.

Suzan Wynne


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hersz = Tzvi? #general

roe kard
 

Would it, therefore, be safe to assume that Tzvi Binyamin LEBENSOLD
and Beniamin Hersz LEBENSOLD - both born in Warsaw in about 1860 -
would be the same individual? (Or is there always the danger that they
were first cousins, sharing the same grandfather?)

My research says it's not a definite "NO" just a "not safe to assume."
I had the same thing happen in my family with a reversal of the names
"Moshe Yitzchak" & "Eisig Moses" and finally, finally found out,
after much searching AND having made that assumption too, that they
were different people and named after the different grandfathers of
their respective parents.

Shana Tova!

Karen ROEKARD
aka Gitel Chaye Eta ROSENFELD ROKART


Seeking US descendants of BEILIN from Kadino, Mogilev (now in Smolensk) #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
I am searching for information about members of a Beilin family, a brother
and 4-6 sisters, who emigrated circa 1900-1910 >from Kadino Mogilev province
(currently Kadino, Smolensk region of Russia) to the United States.
Unfortunately, the crucial first names of these siblings are still a
mysterious unknown. However, the name of their father was Schmuel,
although it is not known if Schmuel himself came to the US or stayed
in Russia. In addition, the one Beilin brother in this family was
supposed to be an active member or officer in the US Communist Party
in the 1930s.
I look forward to any information or suggestions for
searching for these Beilins you might have.
Shanah Tovah 5770,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan
Long Beach, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking US descendants of BEILIN from Kadino, Mogilev (now in Smolensk) #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
I am searching for information about members of a Beilin family, a brother
and 4-6 sisters, who emigrated circa 1900-1910 >from Kadino Mogilev province
(currently Kadino, Smolensk region of Russia) to the United States.
Unfortunately, the crucial first names of these siblings are still a
mysterious unknown. However, the name of their father was Schmuel,
although it is not known if Schmuel himself came to the US or stayed
in Russia. In addition, the one Beilin brother in this family was
supposed to be an active member or officer in the US Communist Party
in the 1930s.
I look forward to any information or suggestions for
searching for these Beilins you might have.
Shanah Tovah 5770,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan
Long Beach, NY


Turkish Ashkenazi family? #general

Victoria Reed <researchtoldot@...>
 

I haven't posted in ages - but I have an unusual story my brother
just shared with me and I'd appreciate any input >from Genners.

My brother just returned >from a trip to Turkey. He said that people
kept thinking he was Turkish. He walked into a store in Istanbul and
was conversing in Chinese with his Chinese girlfriend and noticed that
he was getting some funny looks.

The proprietor of the store came right up to him, took a good look at
his face and said, "You're Jewish, right? Well - your family was
originally >from this region."

My brother was shocked, and the fellow continued, "Do you have
ancestors or family relatives who looked Asian?" Well, this flabberghasted
my brother, because our cousin, the former DA of San Bernadino, was
often mistaken for Chinese or Mexican, and I own a photograph of perhaps
a great-great grandfather (we've never been sure) taken sometime in the
middle of the nineteenth century, whose eyes have a decidely Asian appearance.

In addition, I was in New York this weekend and got to see my first
cousin's son, who is now thirty. I was struck by his family resemblance
to my brother and one of my sons, and recounted my brother's Turkey story.
He said to me that he had forgotten this incident, but that when he was
young and moved to Texas, some of the kids didn't want to play ball with
him because they thought he was Korean and didn't speak English.

So - what do you think? We're Ashkenazi, >from Zolkiew back to about
1800 or so (I have the Zolkiew birth/marriage/death spreadsheet) and it
turned out the store owner who spoke to my brother was a Sephardic Jew
whose family had lived in Istanbul for many generations (and he is
apparently related to one of the Seattle clans).

I've tried googling the history of the Jewish community in Turkey,
and have come up with some information, but this sure makes me think
about Arthur Koestler's theory ...

Thanks, all!

Victoria Fisch (formerly surnamed Reed - I've gone back to
my maiden name)
Folsom, CA


Researching:

FISH/FISCH, FLASH, NIEMAND/NEIMAND, REIS/S, KNOLL, KNAUER: Galicia
RABINOWITZ, JERUSHEWITZ/KAPLAN, SHOLOMOVICH, COHEN: Bialystok
RABINOWITZ: Kiev, St. Petersburg
SEDLETSKY, LISSITSY/LESITZKY: Selwa
ZEDLER/SIDLER/SIEDLER, COHEN: Ostrow M., Zambrow, Pennsylvania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Turkish Ashkenazi family? #general

Victoria Reed <researchtoldot@...>
 

I haven't posted in ages - but I have an unusual story my brother
just shared with me and I'd appreciate any input >from Genners.

My brother just returned >from a trip to Turkey. He said that people
kept thinking he was Turkish. He walked into a store in Istanbul and
was conversing in Chinese with his Chinese girlfriend and noticed that
he was getting some funny looks.

The proprietor of the store came right up to him, took a good look at
his face and said, "You're Jewish, right? Well - your family was
originally >from this region."

My brother was shocked, and the fellow continued, "Do you have
ancestors or family relatives who looked Asian?" Well, this flabberghasted
my brother, because our cousin, the former DA of San Bernadino, was
often mistaken for Chinese or Mexican, and I own a photograph of perhaps
a great-great grandfather (we've never been sure) taken sometime in the
middle of the nineteenth century, whose eyes have a decidely Asian appearance.

In addition, I was in New York this weekend and got to see my first
cousin's son, who is now thirty. I was struck by his family resemblance
to my brother and one of my sons, and recounted my brother's Turkey story.
He said to me that he had forgotten this incident, but that when he was
young and moved to Texas, some of the kids didn't want to play ball with
him because they thought he was Korean and didn't speak English.

So - what do you think? We're Ashkenazi, >from Zolkiew back to about
1800 or so (I have the Zolkiew birth/marriage/death spreadsheet) and it
turned out the store owner who spoke to my brother was a Sephardic Jew
whose family had lived in Istanbul for many generations (and he is
apparently related to one of the Seattle clans).

I've tried googling the history of the Jewish community in Turkey,
and have come up with some information, but this sure makes me think
about Arthur Koestler's theory ...

Thanks, all!

Victoria Fisch (formerly surnamed Reed - I've gone back to
my maiden name)
Folsom, CA


Researching:

FISH/FISCH, FLASH, NIEMAND/NEIMAND, REIS/S, KNOLL, KNAUER: Galicia
RABINOWITZ, JERUSHEWITZ/KAPLAN, SHOLOMOVICH, COHEN: Bialystok
RABINOWITZ: Kiev, St. Petersburg
SEDLETSKY, LISSITSY/LESITZKY: Selwa
ZEDLER/SIDLER/SIEDLER, COHEN: Ostrow M., Zambrow, Pennsylvania


Viewmate 13519; daughter of Noam Elimelech #general

Edward Ohlbaum
 

Greetings, Genners!
I am seeking an English translation of the tombstone inscription
shown in Viewmate 13519 taken at a cemetery in Frysztak. It is said
to be the tombstone of a daughter of Noam Elimelech.
Your help is greatly appreciated.

Edward E. OHLBAUM
Researching OLBOM, OELBAUM, OHLBAUM, ELBAUM, ALBOM,
ALBUM, SPEYER, KAUFMANN, GLEICHER, NEIDERHOFHEIM

Direct url:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13519


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 13519; daughter of Noam Elimelech #general

Edward Ohlbaum
 

Greetings, Genners!
I am seeking an English translation of the tombstone inscription
shown in Viewmate 13519 taken at a cemetery in Frysztak. It is said
to be the tombstone of a daughter of Noam Elimelech.
Your help is greatly appreciated.

Edward E. OHLBAUM
Researching OLBOM, OELBAUM, OHLBAUM, ELBAUM, ALBOM,
ALBUM, SPEYER, KAUFMANN, GLEICHER, NEIDERHOFHEIM

Direct url:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13519


Russian translation - VM 13528 #general

Philip Rosinsky
 

Hi
I found these records in a List of Jews >from Faleshti in Moldova. I'd
be grateful for your help in translating the headers of the page and
the names.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=13528

Thanks!

Philip Rosinsky

Direct url:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13528


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian translation - VM 13528 #general

Philip Rosinsky
 

Hi
I found these records in a List of Jews >from Faleshti in Moldova. I'd
be grateful for your help in translating the headers of the page and
the names.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=13528

Thanks!

Philip Rosinsky

Direct url:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13528