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Re: Western Sephardim #sephardic

Judy Simon
 

Sonia asked if her surname PASIS could be Sephardic. The name search
engine at Sephardim.com lists PASI, PASSI and PASSOS as surnames that
were used by Sephardim. Here's the link:
http://www.sephardim.com/namelist.shtml?mode=form&from=P&to=P&Search=Search

If you have a male relative who carries the name PASIS, he could have
his Y-DNA tested through the Iberian Ashkenaz Y-DNA project at Family
Tree DNA to see if he matches known Sephardim or conversos. Please
contact me privately if you are interested.

Judy Simon
Stony Brook, NY

researching BROZGOL (Rezekne, Latvia); BROZ, LOPEZ (Spain);
KAPELUSHNIK (Rezekne, Latvia); LEFKOWITZ (Skierniewice, Poland);
KELMER (Zychlin, Poland)


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim re: Western Sephardim #sephardic

Judy Simon
 

Sonia asked if her surname PASIS could be Sephardic. The name search
engine at Sephardim.com lists PASI, PASSI and PASSOS as surnames that
were used by Sephardim. Here's the link:
http://www.sephardim.com/namelist.shtml?mode=form&from=P&to=P&Search=Search

If you have a male relative who carries the name PASIS, he could have
his Y-DNA tested through the Iberian Ashkenaz Y-DNA project at Family
Tree DNA to see if he matches known Sephardim or conversos. Please
contact me privately if you are interested.

Judy Simon
Stony Brook, NY

researching BROZGOL (Rezekne, Latvia); BROZ, LOPEZ (Spain);
KAPELUSHNIK (Rezekne, Latvia); LEFKOWITZ (Skierniewice, Poland);
KELMER (Zychlin, Poland)


L'shana Tova #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Our Coordinator, Mr. Weinberg's greeting will represent
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please do it via:

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To all my fellow Yankee Doodle Genners.

A happy and Prosperous New Year.

May your databases be filled with new relatives.

Marvin Weinberg, Coordinator Early American Sig

"To find a new ancestor is to make him live again"


Early American SIG #USA L'shana Tova #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Our Coordinator, Mr. Weinberg's greeting will represent
the good New Year wishes of all SIG members in this email Forum.

If you would like to publish your High Holy Day thoughts and wishes
please do it via:

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===============

To all my fellow Yankee Doodle Genners.

A happy and Prosperous New Year.

May your databases be filled with new relatives.

Marvin Weinberg, Coordinator Early American Sig

"To find a new ancestor is to make him live again"


Re: SCHWARZ from Munich - Thank you and further questions #germany

Oliver Bryk <oliverbryk@...>
 

I want to thank everyone who responded to my inquiry about my SCHWARZ
ancestors >from Munich. The replies have enabled me to fill in gaps in my
family tree concerning my grandfather Richard SCHWARZ's siblings.
Interestingly, the "Gedenkbuch" entry for Justizrat Dr.jur. Felix Schwarz
refers to a brother, Heinrich SCHWARZ (born 1871), about whom I had not
known at all; I also had not known about Felix's wife and children.

I am still attempting to document the ancestry of my ggf Samuel SCHWARZ (the
only FTJP entry about him is mine). The Munich archives graciously sent me a
photocopy of Samuel's two-page police registration ("Polizei-Meldebogen")
which shows Samuel's date of birth as 25.X.22 (25 October 1822) and his
place of birth as "Steppach" with what looks like "Dischingen" or
"Dillingen" underneath the "Steppach". I have made a high resolution scan of
the document that I will gladly make available to anyone who is interested
in the puzzle of Samuel's birthplace. It is a puzzle because there are (or
were) several locations with these names. Replies to my e-mail inquiries in
German to Augsburg and to Neusass (a umlaut) were negative, i.e., "we do not
have any records".

The Polizei-Meldebogen shows that Samuel was married twice, both times in
Munich where he was a resident since 1850. I knew about his marriage in 1864
to my ggm Bertha Nathan (born 1844 in Laupheim) and have researched her
connection to the large and well documented Nathan family. I had not known
about his previous marriage in 1851 to Teresia SIMON (born 1828 in Coburg,
died 1862 in Munich). I have not found any FTJP or JGFF references to SIMON
from Coburg.
With many thanks,

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco, oliverbryk@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany Re: SCHWARZ from Munich - Thank you and further questions #germany

Oliver Bryk <oliverbryk@...>
 

I want to thank everyone who responded to my inquiry about my SCHWARZ
ancestors >from Munich. The replies have enabled me to fill in gaps in my
family tree concerning my grandfather Richard SCHWARZ's siblings.
Interestingly, the "Gedenkbuch" entry for Justizrat Dr.jur. Felix Schwarz
refers to a brother, Heinrich SCHWARZ (born 1871), about whom I had not
known at all; I also had not known about Felix's wife and children.

I am still attempting to document the ancestry of my ggf Samuel SCHWARZ (the
only FTJP entry about him is mine). The Munich archives graciously sent me a
photocopy of Samuel's two-page police registration ("Polizei-Meldebogen")
which shows Samuel's date of birth as 25.X.22 (25 October 1822) and his
place of birth as "Steppach" with what looks like "Dischingen" or
"Dillingen" underneath the "Steppach". I have made a high resolution scan of
the document that I will gladly make available to anyone who is interested
in the puzzle of Samuel's birthplace. It is a puzzle because there are (or
were) several locations with these names. Replies to my e-mail inquiries in
German to Augsburg and to Neusass (a umlaut) were negative, i.e., "we do not
have any records".

The Polizei-Meldebogen shows that Samuel was married twice, both times in
Munich where he was a resident since 1850. I knew about his marriage in 1864
to my ggm Bertha Nathan (born 1844 in Laupheim) and have researched her
connection to the large and well documented Nathan family. I had not known
about his previous marriage in 1851 to Teresia SIMON (born 1828 in Coburg,
died 1862 in Munich). I have not found any FTJP or JGFF references to SIMON
from Coburg.
With many thanks,

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco, oliverbryk@comcast.net


Seeking KHLAVNO #germany

j.furba@...
 

Dear All!

Seeking any information on the people having surname KHLAVNO (or similar)
in Germany.

**** Please respond privately.

Thank you, Janet Furba, Germany j.furba@web.de


German SIG #Germany Seeking KHLAVNO #germany

j.furba@...
 

Dear All!

Seeking any information on the people having surname KHLAVNO (or similar)
in Germany.

**** Please respond privately.

Thank you, Janet Furba, Germany j.furba@web.de


Re: the word "stateless" #germany

Peter Strauss <pfs126@...>
 

Today I had the pleasure of being some people, one of whom was born in
Germany and had left with her family just before the terrible times.
Also in the company today was her granddaughter, 17, who was born in the USA.

The granddaughter told me that she had just recently been granted
German citizenship, which apparently is available to anyone who lost
German citizenship between 1 January 1933 and 8 May 1945, and
their descendants.

Peter Strauss Oakland, CA pfs126@earthlink.net


German SIG #Germany Re: the word "stateless" #germany

Peter Strauss <pfs126@...>
 

Today I had the pleasure of being some people, one of whom was born in
Germany and had left with her family just before the terrible times.
Also in the company today was her granddaughter, 17, who was born in the USA.

The granddaughter told me that she had just recently been granted
German citizenship, which apparently is available to anyone who lost
German citizenship between 1 January 1933 and 8 May 1945, and
their descendants.

Peter Strauss Oakland, CA pfs126@earthlink.net


Re: Nationality "Stateless" ? #germany

Andreas Schwab <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Dear Tracy,
German citizenship is based on descendance ("jus sanguinis") and not
on the place of birth ("jus soli"). So if the bride's ancestors were
not German, she would also not be German unless she had been
naturalized or her parents had been naturalized before her birth.

Beginning 1933, persons who had been naturalized between 1918 and 1933
could be stripped of the German citizenship. This concerned manly Jews
who had immigrated >from Poland. The majority had lost their previous
citizenship and could not reacquire it, so they automatically became
stateless, and so did their descendants even if they were born in
Germany. One hypothesis in your case is that the bride's parents had
immigrated to Germany before 1915 and acquired German citizenship
after 1918. In this case, the daughter could have been deprived of her
citizenship even if she was born in Germany in 1915.

References: Die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit: Vergangenheit-
Gegenwart- Zukunft (German Citizenship: Past - Present - Future) By
Ingo von Münch. Gruyter, 2007. ISBN-13: 978-3899494334
Trude Mauer: Auslaendische Juden in Deutschland (Foreign Jews in
Germany), in: Die Juden im Nationalsozialistischen Deutschland : the
jews in nazi Germany ... (Arnold Paucker editor). ISBN 3-16-745102-3.
Pages 193-194

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, QC, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>
Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, QC, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>


German SIG #Germany Re: Nationality "Stateless" ? #germany

Andreas Schwab <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Dear Tracy,
German citizenship is based on descendance ("jus sanguinis") and not
on the place of birth ("jus soli"). So if the bride's ancestors were
not German, she would also not be German unless she had been
naturalized or her parents had been naturalized before her birth.

Beginning 1933, persons who had been naturalized between 1918 and 1933
could be stripped of the German citizenship. This concerned manly Jews
who had immigrated >from Poland. The majority had lost their previous
citizenship and could not reacquire it, so they automatically became
stateless, and so did their descendants even if they were born in
Germany. One hypothesis in your case is that the bride's parents had
immigrated to Germany before 1915 and acquired German citizenship
after 1918. In this case, the daughter could have been deprived of her
citizenship even if she was born in Germany in 1915.

References: Die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit: Vergangenheit-
Gegenwart- Zukunft (German Citizenship: Past - Present - Future) By
Ingo von Münch. Gruyter, 2007. ISBN-13: 978-3899494334
Trude Mauer: Auslaendische Juden in Deutschland (Foreign Jews in
Germany), in: Die Juden im Nationalsozialistischen Deutschland : the
jews in nazi Germany ... (Arnold Paucker editor). ISBN 3-16-745102-3.
Pages 193-194

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, QC, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>
Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, QC, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>


Re: Nationality "Stateless" ? #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

tracy.dunne@ntlworld.com schrieb:
Could anyone explain what the term "Stateless" would mean please? .......
Dear Tracey,

statelessness may have had various reasons, one of them may be that until
fairly recently being born in a country in Continental Europe did - in
contrast to what was the case in Britain or the USA - not confer the
citizenship of the country.

It depended on the citizenship of the father. If he somehow he had lost his
citizenship, e.g. by having had Polish citizenship, with Poland gone,
the people would become stateless, the child would also become stateless.

Also through Nazi legislation, Jews and Aryans alike could lose their
citizenship if they openly defied the Nazi ideology, mainly >from abroad.
See the Nazi practice (in German) under:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausbürgerung#Drittes_Reich

But the stripping of citizenship was not automatic, not even for Jews,
they were mainly affected when they became exiles, their losing the
German citizenship became valid when their name was published in one
of the 359 lists of lists of Germans who were stripped of their
citizenship that were published right until April, 7, 1945,
and on lots of lists for concentration camps like Dachau or
Theresienstadt or Ghettos like Lodz German Jews were still described
as having the citizenship D.R. (Deutsches Reich) right until
they were murdered. In fact, they were still issued their German
identity cards (Kennkarten) for German citizens with the Gothic J
on them for their deportation.

I hope that helps,

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de


German SIG #Germany Re: Nationality "Stateless" ? #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

tracy.dunne@ntlworld.com schrieb:
Could anyone explain what the term "Stateless" would mean please? .......
Dear Tracey,

statelessness may have had various reasons, one of them may be that until
fairly recently being born in a country in Continental Europe did - in
contrast to what was the case in Britain or the USA - not confer the
citizenship of the country.

It depended on the citizenship of the father. If he somehow he had lost his
citizenship, e.g. by having had Polish citizenship, with Poland gone,
the people would become stateless, the child would also become stateless.

Also through Nazi legislation, Jews and Aryans alike could lose their
citizenship if they openly defied the Nazi ideology, mainly >from abroad.
See the Nazi practice (in German) under:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausbürgerung#Drittes_Reich

But the stripping of citizenship was not automatic, not even for Jews,
they were mainly affected when they became exiles, their losing the
German citizenship became valid when their name was published in one
of the 359 lists of lists of Germans who were stripped of their
citizenship that were published right until April, 7, 1945,
and on lots of lists for concentration camps like Dachau or
Theresienstadt or Ghettos like Lodz German Jews were still described
as having the citizenship D.R. (Deutsches Reich) right until
they were murdered. In fact, they were still issued their German
identity cards (Kennkarten) for German citizens with the Gothic J
on them for their deportation.

I hope that helps,

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de


FW: Tailor and Cutter Academy, Soho #unitedkingdom

a1steve@...
 

Dear All

I've been trying to find if there is a database of Tailors in
London, particularly the East End, >from 1900 onwards. Today I
read an alumni magazine article that mentions the Tailor and Cutter
Academy, 42 Gerrard St, Soho.

It's first mentioned in the Jewish Chronicle in 1905 along with
The British Institute of Tailoring.

Does anybody know if there are archives for the Academy?

Many thanks

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,
POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FW: Tailor and Cutter Academy, Soho #unitedkingdom

a1steve@...
 

Dear All

I've been trying to find if there is a database of Tailors in
London, particularly the East End, >from 1900 onwards. Today I
read an alumni magazine article that mentions the Tailor and Cutter
Academy, 42 Gerrard St, Soho.

It's first mentioned in the Jewish Chronicle in 1905 along with
The British Institute of Tailoring.

Does anybody know if there are archives for the Academy?

Many thanks

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,
POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON


Tailor and Cutter Academy, Soho, London #general

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I've been trying to find if there is a database of Tailors in London, particularly
the East End, >from 1900 onwards. Today I read an alumni magazine article that
mentions the Tailor and Cutter Academy, 42 Gerrard St, Soho.

It's first mentioned in the Jewish Chronicle in 1905 along with The British
Institute of Tailoring. Does anybody know if there are archives for the Academy?

Many thanks

Naomi Ogin a1steve@bigpond.com
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tailor and Cutter Academy, Soho, London #general

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I've been trying to find if there is a database of Tailors in London, particularly
the East End, >from 1900 onwards. Today I read an alumni magazine article that
mentions the Tailor and Cutter Academy, 42 Gerrard St, Soho.

It's first mentioned in the Jewish Chronicle in 1905 along with The British
Institute of Tailoring. Does anybody know if there are archives for the Academy?

Many thanks

Naomi Ogin a1steve@bigpond.com
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON


Re: Finding Grandfather's butcher shop in the 1920's Chicago #general

Hilary Henkin
 

Hi, Avigdor,
Most city directories have two sections. The first is residents, alphabetical by
surname. But the second is businesses, sorted by category, rather like the
"Yellow Pages" here in the US.

You should be able to find some section called, "butchers" or "meat" or some such,
and make photocopies of those pages. If you're lucky, you'll be able to match the
name. If not, you could plot them on a map, see if any are in the area of town
you expect, and thus narrow the list.

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin
Los Angeles, Calif.

Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote:

Can anyone suggest a way to research information about a kosher butcher business
in Chicago in the 20's? What city directories might help?


Thanks for all your offers of help #general

Paula & David
 

A huge thank you to all of you who offered to help me connect with my cousins in
Israel. Mission accomplished! I really appreciate the outpouring of support.
L'Shannah Tovah to all of you. Paula Solomon