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Viewmate help please, Polish and Russian #general

Steven Cooper <s.cooper@...>
 

Hello,

I am looking to have four pages translated.

The top four (201-203) are multiple pages >from a Russian English form but the
answers are all in Russian. The final form 200) is a letter in Polish (I believe).
I am hoping to have the form translated verbatim and also the seal.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23203
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23202
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23201
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23200

Thank you!

Steven L. Cooper
Alberta Canada
Researching WARSHAFSKY, ABRAMOVITCH, YERETSKY, LAZAROWITZ (and so many others!)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate help please, Polish and Russian #general

Steven Cooper <s.cooper@...>
 

Hello,

I am looking to have four pages translated.

The top four (201-203) are multiple pages >from a Russian English form but the
answers are all in Russian. The final form 200) is a letter in Polish (I believe).
I am hoping to have the form translated verbatim and also the seal.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23203
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23202
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23201
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23200

Thank you!

Steven L. Cooper
Alberta Canada
Researching WARSHAFSKY, ABRAMOVITCH, YERETSKY, LAZAROWITZ (and so many others!)

Viewmate 23190 - dechypering handwriting - make it is Poland? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I really need some hardwiring help and especially people who have some idea of
Poland, German, Galacia towns and fancy script >from 1891.

I posted this conundrum the other day and it started a debate but no one has solved
where is this man from. So now I revised my Viewmate to put the full page up to
provide better handwriting examples.

Israel JOSEPH came to the USA in 1891 and I have both his Hamburg and New York
passenger lists and the town looks like "Sidiken" and the country appears to be
Poland. Where's that?

The debate starts on VM 23164 which is an except of the Hamburg list and VM 23165
is the US list. Now I posted
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23190
which is the entire page.

Some people you will see suggested the first letter is an "L" not an "S" but when
you look at other lettering on the page you will see the handwriting is very close
between the letters but if you go up five lines and look at the city that looks
like a clear "L" and go to the names and look 6 and 7 lines above Israel Joseph
and you will see clear examples of the "L" and "S" in the handwriting.

Israel Joseph is the very last line on the page.

Please, everyone take a look and try to read the handwriting and try and solve
where is he from.

Thank you.

Allan Jordan

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 23190 - dechypering handwriting - make it is Poland? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I really need some hardwiring help and especially people who have some idea of
Poland, German, Galacia towns and fancy script >from 1891.

I posted this conundrum the other day and it started a debate but no one has solved
where is this man from. So now I revised my Viewmate to put the full page up to
provide better handwriting examples.

Israel JOSEPH came to the USA in 1891 and I have both his Hamburg and New York
passenger lists and the town looks like "Sidiken" and the country appears to be
Poland. Where's that?

The debate starts on VM 23164 which is an except of the Hamburg list and VM 23165
is the US list. Now I posted
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23190
which is the entire page.

Some people you will see suggested the first letter is an "L" not an "S" but when
you look at other lettering on the page you will see the handwriting is very close
between the letters but if you go up five lines and look at the city that looks
like a clear "L" and go to the names and look 6 and 7 lines above Israel Joseph
and you will see clear examples of the "L" and "S" in the handwriting.

Israel Joseph is the very last line on the page.

Please, everyone take a look and try to read the handwriting and try and solve
where is he from.

Thank you.

Allan Jordan

David and Pnina Levine in Kiryat Bialik #general

George
 

Hello, I am looking for David and Pnina Levine who used to and maybe still live in
Kiryat Bialik. They are cousins of Robin Nagel.

George Frankel
Oakland, Ca.

Researching: Turner, Rudner, Fisch, (Mszana Dolna, Tarnow, Oswiecim, Poland)
Bleich, Beller, Frankel, Zell, Schein (Bobrka, Poland; Vienna, Mykolajow, Ukraine)

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen David and Pnina Levine in Kiryat Bialik #general

George
 

Hello, I am looking for David and Pnina Levine who used to and maybe still live in
Kiryat Bialik. They are cousins of Robin Nagel.

George Frankel
Oakland, Ca.

Researching: Turner, Rudner, Fisch, (Mszana Dolna, Tarnow, Oswiecim, Poland)
Bleich, Beller, Frankel, Zell, Schein (Bobrka, Poland; Vienna, Mykolajow, Ukraine)

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ViewMate photo identification #general

Rose
 

Dear Group

I've posted two photos my father in the Polish army taken in 1932. Since submitting
the photos I've discovered that he served with the 56th Infantry based in
Krotoszyn, Poland. I would be interested in hearing >from anyone who has further
information on this Infantry. The photos are on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23126
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23127
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Best Wishes
Rose Raymen
Perth, Western Australia

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate photo identification #general

Rose
 

Dear Group

I've posted two photos my father in the Polish army taken in 1932. Since submitting
the photos I've discovered that he served with the 56th Infantry based in
Krotoszyn, Poland. I would be interested in hearing >from anyone who has further
information on this Infantry. The photos are on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23126
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23127
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Best Wishes
Rose Raymen
Perth, Western Australia

ViewMate Hebrew photo inscription #general

Jonathan Malamy
 

I've posted the Hebrew inscription >from a photo for which I need some help decoding
the date. It seems to be written in an unusual way. I've made additional notes on
the ViewMate entry.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23198

Please respond via ViewMate.

Thanks much.

Jonathan Malamy

Researching:
RESNICK >from Minsk & Yafo WEISSBROD >from Minsk & Yafo GREENBERG >from Bucharest
BARDICH >from Suceava/Bucovina FENSTERHEIM >from Bucovina and elsewhere
SNYDER/SCHNEIDER >from Korets and nearby KRAVICKS >from Korets and nearby
BARATZ >from Korets COHEN >from Korets MENACHES >from Praga/Warsaw
WEINTHAL >from Praga/Warsaw

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Hebrew photo inscription #general

Jonathan Malamy
 

I've posted the Hebrew inscription >from a photo for which I need some help decoding
the date. It seems to be written in an unusual way. I've made additional notes on
the ViewMate entry.

It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23198

Please respond via ViewMate.

Thanks much.

Jonathan Malamy

Researching:
RESNICK >from Minsk & Yafo WEISSBROD >from Minsk & Yafo GREENBERG >from Bucharest
BARDICH >from Suceava/Bucovina FENSTERHEIM >from Bucovina and elsewhere
SNYDER/SCHNEIDER >from Korets and nearby KRAVICKS >from Korets and nearby
BARATZ >from Korets COHEN >from Korets MENACHES >from Praga/Warsaw
WEINTHAL >from Praga/Warsaw

ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #general

Rose
 

Dear Group

I've posted a photo inscription in Yiddish for which I need a loose translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23125
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Best Wishes
Rose Raymen
Perth, Western Australia

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #general

Rose
 

Dear Group

I've posted a photo inscription in Yiddish for which I need a loose translation. It
is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=23125
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Best Wishes
Rose Raymen
Perth, Western Australia

Documents from Grodno #belarus

yzussman@...
 

I am looking for information and documents on the family of my maternal
grandfather's, Szalom Dyszkin. It seems that I will be able to obtain
some documents >from the 1920s and 1930s >from the GRODNO OBLAST STATE
ARCHIVES, but the NATIONAL HISTORICAL ARCHIVES OF BELARUS IN GRODNO
claims to hold Jewish Marriage, birth and death certificates only for
the years 1838 and 1840-2. According to The Routes to Roots Foundation
however the archives house the birth records >from Grodno for the years
1838-1874 in Fond 146.

Could someone clarify the contradiction? Is there hope of finding such
documents elsewhere?

I would also appreciate any other help in obtaining more information on
my grandfather's ancestors.

My grandfather Szalom Dyszkin was born between 1890 to 1895 in Grodno.
He had two brothers William (I do not know his original name) and Shmuel
Diskin who immigrated to the USA, and two sisters, only the name of one
of them is known, Sonya.

His father Chaim-Mejer Dyszkin was born in 1863 and died in 1940 in
Grodno. He was like my grandfather a carpenter. He had a sister Emma Bof
who immigrated to New York and was still alive in 1951 at the age of 76.

His mother was Chaja-Rywka Dyszkin and I have no more information on
her. She might have perished with her two daughters in the Holocaust.

Thank You,
Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin,
Yahud, Israel
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Huda SCHOR WOHL, Chicago, IL #general

Janette <janettes@...>
 

I have hit a brick wall looking for a death certificate or other information about
a Huda SCHOR WOHL. She probably died in the Chicago, IL area in the 1940's -
1950's. Her husband was Icehiel WOHL who died on June 18, 1916. Their children
were Mary (Margala), Peter, Oscar, and Abe. In her son Peter's death record,
Huda's name is listed as Heidda Schor and Icehiel's name is Jacheil Wohl.
Sometimes Huda's maiden name is listed as KATZ.

Huda was born in Podkamen, near Brody around 1858, and lived in Chicago >from the
early twentieth century.

I've googled her, looked on Ancestry, Fold3, Geni, MyHeritage, archives.com and
several other websites. Any help would be much appreciated.

Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ

Belarus SIG #Belarus Documents from Grodno #belarus

yzussman@...
 

I am looking for information and documents on the family of my maternal
grandfather's, Szalom Dyszkin. It seems that I will be able to obtain
some documents >from the 1920s and 1930s >from the GRODNO OBLAST STATE
ARCHIVES, but the NATIONAL HISTORICAL ARCHIVES OF BELARUS IN GRODNO
claims to hold Jewish Marriage, birth and death certificates only for
the years 1838 and 1840-2. According to The Routes to Roots Foundation
however the archives house the birth records >from Grodno for the years
1838-1874 in Fond 146.

Could someone clarify the contradiction? Is there hope of finding such
documents elsewhere?

I would also appreciate any other help in obtaining more information on
my grandfather's ancestors.

My grandfather Szalom Dyszkin was born between 1890 to 1895 in Grodno.
He had two brothers William (I do not know his original name) and Shmuel
Diskin who immigrated to the USA, and two sisters, only the name of one
of them is known, Sonya.

His father Chaim-Mejer Dyszkin was born in 1863 and died in 1940 in
Grodno. He was like my grandfather a carpenter. He had a sister Emma Bof
who immigrated to New York and was still alive in 1951 at the age of 76.

His mother was Chaja-Rywka Dyszkin and I have no more information on
her. She might have perished with her two daughters in the Holocaust.

Thank You,
Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin,
Yahud, Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Huda SCHOR WOHL, Chicago, IL #general

Janette <janettes@...>
 

I have hit a brick wall looking for a death certificate or other information about
a Huda SCHOR WOHL. She probably died in the Chicago, IL area in the 1940's -
1950's. Her husband was Icehiel WOHL who died on June 18, 1916. Their children
were Mary (Margala), Peter, Oscar, and Abe. In her son Peter's death record,
Huda's name is listed as Heidda Schor and Icehiel's name is Jacheil Wohl.
Sometimes Huda's maiden name is listed as KATZ.

Huda was born in Podkamen, near Brody around 1858, and lived in Chicago >from the
early twentieth century.

I've googled her, looked on Ancestry, Fold3, Geni, MyHeritage, archives.com and
several other websites. Any help would be much appreciated.

Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ

Undocumented marriages Svihov #austria-czech

danbrockman@...
 

Prague researcher Julius Muller studied my family records in Svihov for me years ago, before computerized
data sources were available. He learned that Daniel BLOCH was the saudek of four children of Sarah WEDELES.
There is no State marriage record of Daniel Bloch and Sarah Wedeles, but Daniel acknowledged his children in
religious terms, at least in some records. Listers more knowledgeable than me can perhaps explain what the
meaning of saudek is and where these types of records can be located today. This family emigrated to St.
Louis Missouri in 1848 where Daniel helped start B'nai El synagogue and where they lived as a married
couple with the mother and children taking the name Block. Daughter Veronica married Schwarzkopf and
then Berwin.

Dan Brockman
Barrington Illinois
Block, Wedeles, Berwin, Marx, Pickard, Schwarzkopf, Fischer

"Illegitimate" Children in Documents #austria-czech

Fritz Neubauer
 

Ronny wrote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you Daniela Torsh for elaborating on the Familianten laws and the
Unehrlich births. I am, however, still puzzled by the fact that in four
instances where a birth has been marked as Unehrlich, ditto marks (") have been
entered in the Father column, these marks appearing directly beneath entries
registering children born to my Great-Great-Grandfather Salomon Z Aufrichtig
and his wife Julie [Jachet] Lokschan Aufrichtig. These ditto marks appear to
imply that Salomon was the father of the Unehrlich child.
Dear Ronny,

please note that the German term for "illegitimate" (child) is UNEHELICH
(two e's there, no r), not "unehrlich" which means "dishonest" in German ...

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Viewmate request for translation from Czech #austria-czech

ngaupakyip@...
 

I've posted to ViewMate a notation added in 1946 to a birth record of
1888 for Ernst JELLINEK of Kyjov. My guess is that this is a change
of legal name, but I don't read Czech. I'd be grateful to have a
rough translation.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3D23175
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Michael Gordy, Maryland, USA
Researching many names in Kyjov and Straznice, Moravia.

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Undocumented marriages Svihov #austria-czech

danbrockman@...
 

Prague researcher Julius Muller studied my family records in Svihov for me years ago, before computerized
data sources were available. He learned that Daniel BLOCH was the saudek of four children of Sarah WEDELES.
There is no State marriage record of Daniel Bloch and Sarah Wedeles, but Daniel acknowledged his children in
religious terms, at least in some records. Listers more knowledgeable than me can perhaps explain what the
meaning of saudek is and where these types of records can be located today. This family emigrated to St.
Louis Missouri in 1848 where Daniel helped start B'nai El synagogue and where they lived as a married
couple with the mother and children taking the name Block. Daughter Veronica married Schwarzkopf and
then Berwin.

Dan Brockman
Barrington Illinois
Block, Wedeles, Berwin, Marx, Pickard, Schwarzkopf, Fischer