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KLAUSNER and AMSTER from Bardejov/Slovakia #hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Siggers,
About a month ago I posted a query about my wife's paternal grandmother Bina KLAUSNER who married Eliezer(Lazar) APOTHEKER in Bardejov. My wife's father,David APOTHEKER(1908-1995)was born in Bardejov though the Apothekers
had roots(like many others in Bardejov) in Neu Sandez(Nowy Sacz).Bina died young before WW1 after delivering 9 children.
A few days ago we got the 1895 Bardejov wedding entry of Eliezer Apotheker(son of Saul APOTHEKER and Lea LANDAU) and
Bina KLAUSNER(daughter of Loebl KLAUSNER and Eszter AMSTER). The bride's side were registered as residents of Bartfa(Bardejov).The Rabbi? and the witness? were Tobias PERL and Hermann Klausner respectively.
Needless to say that this new info opens new directions in our research. It explains why one of the siblings of David,Leo Apotheker,
lived before WW2 in Budapest(I saw in JGFF that there were many AMSTERs in Budapest).
If any ofthe a/m names are on your lists,especially Eszter AMSTER,we would like to hear >from you becauseAMSTER is new for us.
Thanks in advance
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Hungary SIG #Hungary KLAUSNER and AMSTER from Bardejov/Slovakia #hungary

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Siggers,
About a month ago I posted a query about my wife's paternal grandmother Bina KLAUSNER who married Eliezer(Lazar) APOTHEKER in Bardejov. My wife's father,David APOTHEKER(1908-1995)was born in Bardejov though the Apothekers
had roots(like many others in Bardejov) in Neu Sandez(Nowy Sacz).Bina died young before WW1 after delivering 9 children.
A few days ago we got the 1895 Bardejov wedding entry of Eliezer Apotheker(son of Saul APOTHEKER and Lea LANDAU) and
Bina KLAUSNER(daughter of Loebl KLAUSNER and Eszter AMSTER). The bride's side were registered as residents of Bartfa(Bardejov).The Rabbi? and the witness? were Tobias PERL and Hermann Klausner respectively.
Needless to say that this new info opens new directions in our research. It explains why one of the siblings of David,Leo Apotheker,
lived before WW2 in Budapest(I saw in JGFF that there were many AMSTERs in Budapest).
If any ofthe a/m names are on your lists,especially Eszter AMSTER,we would like to hear >from you becauseAMSTER is new for us.
Thanks in advance
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Re: Hebrew inscription on tombstone #hungary

afuller@...
 

Thank you to all who translated the Hebrew inscription for me on VM
and have told me that the death date is not contained in it. As
suggested, I will pursue this further on the Austria-Czech SIG.

1. re: Hebrew inscription on tombstone

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Subject: re: Hebrew inscription on tombstone
From: afuller@oberlin.edu
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:23:56 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

I would appreciate a translation of the tombstone inscription for my
great-great aunt, Katharina MAUTNER geb. Schneider.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3D14046
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3D14047

The first image, which I obtained >from her ggg grandson, is of poor
quality and is not labeled. =A0The second image is an attempt to sharpen
it so the Hebrew is legible. =A0I am trying to find Katharina's death
date and any other identifying information, so I can look for an
obituary in the Neue Freie Presse.

Katharina died between 1892-94, probably in Vienna, but I can't find
the listing in the JOWBR. Two Katharina MAUTNERs are listed as buried
in Wiener Zentralfriedhof, but their death dates are 1902 and 1935.
Katharina's sister, my great grandmother Eleonore Schneider PICK, died
in 1878. Her original grave was in Wahringer Friedhof, but was moved
to Zentralfriedhof in 1941. I am wondering if the same have happened
to Katharina Mautner's grave.

Ann L. Fuller
Oberlin, OH

Moderator: Have you submitted your message to the Austria-Czech SIG?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hebrew inscription on tombstone #hungary

afuller@...
 

Thank you to all who translated the Hebrew inscription for me on VM
and have told me that the death date is not contained in it. As
suggested, I will pursue this further on the Austria-Czech SIG.

1. re: Hebrew inscription on tombstone

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Subject: re: Hebrew inscription on tombstone
From: afuller@oberlin.edu
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:23:56 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

I would appreciate a translation of the tombstone inscription for my
great-great aunt, Katharina MAUTNER geb. Schneider.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3D14046
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3D14047

The first image, which I obtained >from her ggg grandson, is of poor
quality and is not labeled. =A0The second image is an attempt to sharpen
it so the Hebrew is legible. =A0I am trying to find Katharina's death
date and any other identifying information, so I can look for an
obituary in the Neue Freie Presse.

Katharina died between 1892-94, probably in Vienna, but I can't find
the listing in the JOWBR. Two Katharina MAUTNERs are listed as buried
in Wiener Zentralfriedhof, but their death dates are 1902 and 1935.
Katharina's sister, my great grandmother Eleonore Schneider PICK, died
in 1878. Her original grave was in Wahringer Friedhof, but was moved
to Zentralfriedhof in 1941. I am wondering if the same have happened
to Katharina Mautner's grave.

Ann L. Fuller
Oberlin, OH

Moderator: Have you submitted your message to the Austria-Czech SIG?


Thank you for translation #general

Mara Fein <genealogysource@...>
 

My thanks to all who translated the headstone of Hyman Freedman for me!

Mara Fein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you for translation #general

Mara Fein <genealogysource@...>
 

My thanks to all who translated the headstone of Hyman Freedman for me!

Mara Fein


Brooklyn Synagogues, burial societies & cemeteries #general

Bea <blspabas@...>
 

In London England, if a couple married in a particular synagogue it can
sometimes be straight forward working out the most likeliest burial society
they belonged to, and the most likeliest cemeteries they were later buried
in. I am seeking similar information for Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

A wedding took place in Brooklyn in 1914, between Mr Abe/Abraham ROSEN
(formerly ROSSIN and RESSIN) and his wife Rose (nee CHARMAS), both were
immigrants >from Belarus - he >from Vitebsk, and she >from Minsk.

The address of the wedding ceremony is very badly written but looks to me
like 144 Grattan Street, Brooklyn, and the person performing the ceremony
was Sam Horowitz.

Can you help to identify a synagogue by this man's name? Can anyone tell me
if the above address was a synagogue or not? If so, what was the name of
that synagogue, and what is the name of the current synagogue society it may
have been amalgamated with since then (if that was the case)?

Is it possible to narrow down which likely burial society and cemetery this
couple would have belonged to and which cemetery they would most likely have
been buried in, in or near Brooklyn, between 1950-1980?

Many thanks,

Bea Shiel (London) blspabas@btinternet.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn Synagogues, burial societies & cemeteries #general

Bea <blspabas@...>
 

In London England, if a couple married in a particular synagogue it can
sometimes be straight forward working out the most likeliest burial society
they belonged to, and the most likeliest cemeteries they were later buried
in. I am seeking similar information for Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

A wedding took place in Brooklyn in 1914, between Mr Abe/Abraham ROSEN
(formerly ROSSIN and RESSIN) and his wife Rose (nee CHARMAS), both were
immigrants >from Belarus - he >from Vitebsk, and she >from Minsk.

The address of the wedding ceremony is very badly written but looks to me
like 144 Grattan Street, Brooklyn, and the person performing the ceremony
was Sam Horowitz.

Can you help to identify a synagogue by this man's name? Can anyone tell me
if the above address was a synagogue or not? If so, what was the name of
that synagogue, and what is the name of the current synagogue society it may
have been amalgamated with since then (if that was the case)?

Is it possible to narrow down which likely burial society and cemetery this
couple would have belonged to and which cemetery they would most likely have
been buried in, in or near Brooklyn, between 1950-1980?

Many thanks,

Bea Shiel (London) blspabas@btinternet.com


Re: Eyes -- indicators of where you came from? #general

Larry Gaum
 

May I suggest that it was not your brothers eyes that prompted the
good doctor to suggest that he came >from Russia/Poland, but probably
the contents of his conversation, where he lives and in fact what
information was on his medical chart.
There is no scientific evidence that would allow the eyes to make it
possible to identify ones origins that I'm aware of at this point in
time.
Dr. Larry Gaum
Toronto, ON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Eyes -- indicators of where you came from? #general

Larry Gaum
 

May I suggest that it was not your brothers eyes that prompted the
good doctor to suggest that he came >from Russia/Poland, but probably
the contents of his conversation, where he lives and in fact what
information was on his medical chart.
There is no scientific evidence that would allow the eyes to make it
possible to identify ones origins that I'm aware of at this point in
time.
Dr. Larry Gaum
Toronto, ON


Seeking Researches of Philip Kovarsky #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

Based on other information, including naturalization information, when
combined with the responses I have previous gotten here, I am
speculating that the name of the Rabbi who officiated at the marriage of
my great-grandparents was Philip KOVARSKY. If you happen to be
researching him would you please get in touch with me? I am seeking
information about his synagogue at the time or those he might have
served afterwards. He was born in Russia in or around 1856.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Researches of Philip Kovarsky #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

Based on other information, including naturalization information, when
combined with the responses I have previous gotten here, I am
speculating that the name of the Rabbi who officiated at the marriage of
my great-grandparents was Philip KOVARSKY. If you happen to be
researching him would you please get in touch with me? I am seeking
information about his synagogue at the time or those he might have
served afterwards. He was born in Russia in or around 1856.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer


Re: Information On Synagogue at 217 Forsyth St. Manhattan #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

I have been under the weather, but I intend to thank everyone who helped
individually. Let this be considered a preliminary thank you.

As for why I thought that 217 Forsyth was the location of a synagogue,
the short answer is "oops".

The long answer is that the marriage certificate I obtained listed the
Rabbi's name, official station, and residence. I had assumed that the
marriage took place in the synagogue, and therefore the address was for
the synagogue. It has been pointed out that the marriage did not have
to take place in the synagogue proper.

Thank you all who answered. Anyone else who wants to take a look at the
certificate can feel free to take a stab at it, as the official station
is so illegible that any guesses are welcome.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Information On Synagogue at 217 Forsyth St. Manhattan #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

I have been under the weather, but I intend to thank everyone who helped
individually. Let this be considered a preliminary thank you.

As for why I thought that 217 Forsyth was the location of a synagogue,
the short answer is "oops".

The long answer is that the marriage certificate I obtained listed the
Rabbi's name, official station, and residence. I had assumed that the
marriage took place in the synagogue, and therefore the address was for
the synagogue. It has been pointed out that the marriage did not have
to take place in the synagogue proper.

Thank you all who answered. Anyone else who wants to take a look at the
certificate can feel free to take a stab at it, as the official station
is so illegible that any guesses are welcome.

Sincerely,
Marc DVer


Thanks Again -- St Louis #general

Evelyn Filippi
 

Hi
I would like to thank all the people in here for all the information
they sent me including the manifest list for the S.S. St Louis.
Its amazing how much my tree has grown thanks to JewisGen
Evelyn Filippi
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks Again -- St Louis #general

Evelyn Filippi
 

Hi
I would like to thank all the people in here for all the information
they sent me including the manifest list for the S.S. St Louis.
Its amazing how much my tree has grown thanks to JewisGen
Evelyn Filippi
New York


Article on Pennsylvania's Open Record Law #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Below is a link to an article >from the Pittsburgh Gazette on the
frustrations and successes of Pennsylvania's Open Record Law which became
effective this past January.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09333/1017129-454.stm#ixzz0YIrwAkLg

Thank you to Marilyn Newman for sending this to me.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS, Director-at-large and
Chairperson, Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Article on Pennsylvania's Open Record Law #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

Below is a link to an article >from the Pittsburgh Gazette on the
frustrations and successes of Pennsylvania's Open Record Law which became
effective this past January.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09333/1017129-454.stm#ixzz0YIrwAkLg

Thank you to Marilyn Newman for sending this to me.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS, Director-at-large and
Chairperson, Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Information On Synagogue at 217 Forsyth St. Manhattan #general

David Rubin
 

In a message dated 11/25/2009 2:17:18 PM Central Standard Time,
mdver@dver.name writes:

"I am trying to find information about a synagogue located at 217 Forsyth
St. in Manhattan circa 1900. The name of the Rabbi is some variation of
Philip Kavalski. I have a marriage certificate with the address but
cannot make out the name of the synagogue nor of the Rabbi. I had
previously posted this, but this time I am including the entire
certificate in case that helps.

The name available is unreadable to me, but here is a summary of
previous attempts to read it:

Jewish Achaim Osase ??
Lewis Askenase [Glyborn?]
Jewis_ Achaim osase Glybohn? or Glykoln
Lewis Asheim Wiase/Wiese?? Glyb**

The link on viewmate for this is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13990

Sincerely,
Marc DVer "

***

I have included the entire original post as the origin of this
thread seems to have been lost.

I am sure 217 Forsyth was the residence of the Rabbi not the Synagogue.
The closest Synagogue I found to that name was Ahawath Achim Anshe Gluboke
on 87 E Broadway. Possibly he wrote "Service achim onshe Glybok???"
as this looks close to what is on your viewmate. At times, Gluboke was part
of Russia, Belarus and Poland and was also known as Glebokie, Glubokoje.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Information On Synagogue at 217 Forsyth St. Manhattan #general

David Rubin
 

In a message dated 11/25/2009 2:17:18 PM Central Standard Time,
mdver@dver.name writes:

"I am trying to find information about a synagogue located at 217 Forsyth
St. in Manhattan circa 1900. The name of the Rabbi is some variation of
Philip Kavalski. I have a marriage certificate with the address but
cannot make out the name of the synagogue nor of the Rabbi. I had
previously posted this, but this time I am including the entire
certificate in case that helps.

The name available is unreadable to me, but here is a summary of
previous attempts to read it:

Jewish Achaim Osase ??
Lewis Askenase [Glyborn?]
Jewis_ Achaim osase Glybohn? or Glykoln
Lewis Asheim Wiase/Wiese?? Glyb**

The link on viewmate for this is
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13990

Sincerely,
Marc DVer "

***

I have included the entire original post as the origin of this
thread seems to have been lost.

I am sure 217 Forsyth was the residence of the Rabbi not the Synagogue.
The closest Synagogue I found to that name was Ahawath Achim Anshe Gluboke
on 87 E Broadway. Possibly he wrote "Service achim onshe Glybok???"
as this looks close to what is on your viewmate. At times, Gluboke was part
of Russia, Belarus and Poland and was also known as Glebokie, Glubokoje.