Date   

mtDNA? #dna

Helen Gardner
 

Hi all.

At age 77, none of my parents' generation are alive now, and of those
of my generation still with us, virtually all have declined to do a
DNA test through various fears of one kind and another (mostly to do
with medical findings or on-selling of results, and even though I have
told them repeatedly that genetic DNA testing such as FTDNA doesn't
collect medical information, and FTDNA does not on-sell results they
remain unconvinced and uncooperative). Sigh! Oh well.

Anyway, I had my autosomal DNA done some years ago and as I read more
about it, I'm thinking that mtDNA might be of some help in the
absence of DNA >from most other relatives.

Is it likely to be worth doing, and who would you recommend: FTDNA,
who did my autosomal test, or Ancestry so I could get on to their new
super collection of data? Am I likely to get anything out of Ancestry
that I can't get >from GEDmatch?

Regards
Helen Gardner
Melbourne
Australia


DNA Research #DNA mtDNA? #dna

Helen Gardner
 

Hi all.

At age 77, none of my parents' generation are alive now, and of those
of my generation still with us, virtually all have declined to do a
DNA test through various fears of one kind and another (mostly to do
with medical findings or on-selling of results, and even though I have
told them repeatedly that genetic DNA testing such as FTDNA doesn't
collect medical information, and FTDNA does not on-sell results they
remain unconvinced and uncooperative). Sigh! Oh well.

Anyway, I had my autosomal DNA done some years ago and as I read more
about it, I'm thinking that mtDNA might be of some help in the
absence of DNA >from most other relatives.

Is it likely to be worth doing, and who would you recommend: FTDNA,
who did my autosomal test, or Ancestry so I could get on to their new
super collection of data? Am I likely to get anything out of Ancestry
that I can't get >from GEDmatch?

Regards
Helen Gardner
Melbourne
Australia


21 New Shtetl Profiles #general

Noah Lapidus <lapidus.noah@...>
 

Hi All,

I recently returned >from Eastern Europe where I visited my 21
ancestral towns. I chronicled each trip on my blog, which can be found
at https://nilapidus.com . I tried my best to contextualize what
remains in each town as accurately as possible. The 21 towns I visited
are:

Minsk, Belarus
Lida, Belarus
Kobryn, Belarus
Divin, Belarus
Karelichy, Belarus
Mozyr, Belarus
Boryslav, Ukraine
Ovruch, Ukraine
Ilnyk, Turka, Ukraine
Vaslui, Romania
Kudirkos Naumiestis, Lithuania
Baisogala, Lithuania
Lygumai, Lithuania
Seirijai, Lithuania
Punia, Lithuania
Vilnius, Lithuania
Marijampole, Lithuania
Riga, Latvia
Siemiatycze, Poland
Miedzyrzec, Poland
Suwalki, Poland

I hope you find these useful in your research or trip preparations!

Noah Lapidus
lapidus.noah@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 21 New Shtetl Profiles #general

Noah Lapidus <lapidus.noah@...>
 

Hi All,

I recently returned >from Eastern Europe where I visited my 21
ancestral towns. I chronicled each trip on my blog, which can be found
at https://nilapidus.com . I tried my best to contextualize what
remains in each town as accurately as possible. The 21 towns I visited
are:

Minsk, Belarus
Lida, Belarus
Kobryn, Belarus
Divin, Belarus
Karelichy, Belarus
Mozyr, Belarus
Boryslav, Ukraine
Ovruch, Ukraine
Ilnyk, Turka, Ukraine
Vaslui, Romania
Kudirkos Naumiestis, Lithuania
Baisogala, Lithuania
Lygumai, Lithuania
Seirijai, Lithuania
Punia, Lithuania
Vilnius, Lithuania
Marijampole, Lithuania
Riga, Latvia
Siemiatycze, Poland
Miedzyrzec, Poland
Suwalki, Poland

I hope you find these useful in your research or trip preparations!

Noah Lapidus
lapidus.noah@gmail.com


Viewmate Request for Translation: Card - HECHT (Yiddish) Letter - SINGER (German??) #general

Marcella Shames
 

Hi List

I have posted a card and a letter to Viewmate

I understand that the card is in Yiddish and the letter, perhaps German???

Both the letter and the card have two sides so there are 4 links below...
any and all help with the translation is much appreciated

Thank you

Marcella Shames

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54814
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54813
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54809
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54808
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Request for Translation: Card - HECHT (Yiddish) Letter - SINGER (German??) #general

Marcella Shames
 

Hi List

I have posted a card and a letter to Viewmate

I understand that the card is in Yiddish and the letter, perhaps German???

Both the letter and the card have two sides so there are 4 links below...
any and all help with the translation is much appreciated

Thank you

Marcella Shames

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54814
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54813
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54809
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54808
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.


Viewmate translation of marriage of Samuel Lobel #general

Milton Koch
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54841
This is >from Czortkow-not a birth entry. The "faded" writing in one of
the columns can not be improved.
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Milton Koch
Bethesda, MD USA
KOCH/SELZER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation of marriage of Samuel Lobel #general

Milton Koch
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54841
This is >from Czortkow-not a birth entry. The "faded" writing in one of
the columns can not be improved.
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Milton Koch
Bethesda, MD USA
KOCH/SELZER


New York City Education Records or School Yearbooks #general

Jeff Miller
 

I'm interested in getting any information that might have survived related
to students who went to school in the Lower East Side, Manhattan; Brooklyn -
Brownsville; some portions of Bronx and Queens, between 1880-1940 years.

I have some family information about names of students, schools attended,
addresses, for portions of this time period.

Please advise on what might be available and how to gain access or copies of
any student records. Any libraries that might have school yearbooks would
also be of interest.

Thanks,

Jeff Miller
Maryland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Education Records or School Yearbooks #general

Jeff Miller
 

I'm interested in getting any information that might have survived related
to students who went to school in the Lower East Side, Manhattan; Brooklyn -
Brownsville; some portions of Bronx and Queens, between 1880-1940 years.

I have some family information about names of students, schools attended,
addresses, for portions of this time period.

Please advise on what might be available and how to gain access or copies of
any student records. Any libraries that might have school yearbooks would
also be of interest.

Thanks,

Jeff Miller
Maryland


NUTA, SZMULSON, JUDKEWICZ, PISKURZ from Warsaw #general

Marty Meyers <martymeyers@...>
 

Researching my NUTA family (originally >from Plonsk), I found a few
NUTA in Warsaw.

Mordtka and Malka (nee NUTA) SZMULZON had twins in 1875, Ruchla and Azrjel.

Lewek and Chaia Sura (nee NUTA) PISKURZ had a daughter Chawa Ruchla
who married Fiszel BECZULKA in 1885.

Gersz and Sura (nee NUTA) JUDKEWICZ had a son Chaim who married Rojza
SZCZYPIOR in 1885.

If any of this sounds familiar, please contact me privately.

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NUTA, SZMULSON, JUDKEWICZ, PISKURZ from Warsaw #general

Marty Meyers <martymeyers@...>
 

Researching my NUTA family (originally >from Plonsk), I found a few
NUTA in Warsaw.

Mordtka and Malka (nee NUTA) SZMULZON had twins in 1875, Ruchla and Azrjel.

Lewek and Chaia Sura (nee NUTA) PISKURZ had a daughter Chawa Ruchla
who married Fiszel BECZULKA in 1885.

Gersz and Sura (nee NUTA) JUDKEWICZ had a son Chaim who married Rojza
SZCZYPIOR in 1885.

If any of this sounds familiar, please contact me privately.

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ


Ret: Finding a Death Certificate online #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Rashi Rosenzweig asked about finding his grandmother's death certificate
on line. At the time she died in 1964, she was a resident of New York
City.

I reply: assuming she also died in New York City, her death certificate
is simply not available on line, and currently, even the indices to death
certificates for New York City are not on line. All New York City death
certificates and indices >from 1949 onward are only at the N.Y.C.
Department of Health, and not available on line, on microfilm, or
anywhere else. They have to be requested >from the Department of Health,
although that can be done via the Internet (do a search for NYC Department
of Health and death certificates to find the application). I've been told
that if the certificate is >from more than 50 years ago, i.e., >from 1966 or
earlier, in accordance with New York State law the Department of Health is
a bit easier about releasing them, but if they're less than 50 years old,
you have to prove your direct relationship to the deceased. There's no
other way to get them.

If she died outside the city limits but elsewhere in New York state, it
has to be requested >from the New York *State* Department of Health. There
is an on line index to death certificates >from 1957 to 1967 at
https://health.data.ny.gov/Health/Genealogical-Research-Death-Index-Beginning-1957/vafa-pf2s
[or http://tinyurl.com/ocdk4bl --Mod.]
(click on "view data"), but Rashi's grandmother is not on it.

Sincerely,

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ret: Finding a Death Certificate online #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Rashi Rosenzweig asked about finding his grandmother's death certificate
on line. At the time she died in 1964, she was a resident of New York
City.

I reply: assuming she also died in New York City, her death certificate
is simply not available on line, and currently, even the indices to death
certificates for New York City are not on line. All New York City death
certificates and indices >from 1949 onward are only at the N.Y.C.
Department of Health, and not available on line, on microfilm, or
anywhere else. They have to be requested >from the Department of Health,
although that can be done via the Internet (do a search for NYC Department
of Health and death certificates to find the application). I've been told
that if the certificate is >from more than 50 years ago, i.e., >from 1966 or
earlier, in accordance with New York State law the Department of Health is
a bit easier about releasing them, but if they're less than 50 years old,
you have to prove your direct relationship to the deceased. There's no
other way to get them.

If she died outside the city limits but elsewhere in New York state, it
has to be requested >from the New York *State* Department of Health. There
is an on line index to death certificates >from 1957 to 1967 at
https://health.data.ny.gov/Health/Genealogical-Research-Death-Index-Beginning-1957/vafa-pf2s
[or http://tinyurl.com/ocdk4bl --Mod.]
(click on "view data"), but Rashi's grandmother is not on it.

Sincerely,

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Viewmate translation Yiddish letter #general

Tsiporah Trom <ouri.trom@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I need your help for a letter in Yiddish posted on Viewmate:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54790

I believe this letter was sent by Joseph Gruenbaum, 21 February 1909, from
Leipzig, Germany
To his uncle Shaya Bugarsky (brother of his mother), living in Warsaw,
Twarda street 14.

I understand a literal translation may prove too difficult.
I would appreciate any information regarding family members.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Geraldine Trom

Researching in Warsaw: GRUENBAUM, BUGARSKY, BAUMANN, PORTNER

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation Yiddish letter #general

Tsiporah Trom <ouri.trom@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I need your help for a letter in Yiddish posted on Viewmate:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM54790

I believe this letter was sent by Joseph Gruenbaum, 21 February 1909, from
Leipzig, Germany
To his uncle Shaya Bugarsky (brother of his mother), living in Warsaw,
Twarda street 14.

I understand a literal translation may prove too difficult.
I would appreciate any information regarding family members.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Geraldine Trom

Researching in Warsaw: GRUENBAUM, BUGARSKY, BAUMANN, PORTNER

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.


Searching 1880'S Ederne' Alliance Teacher in Paris Files #france

eliagil.roos@...
 

Hi, be careful; the Alliance is no longer rue La Bruyere.
Go to their site:

http://www.aiu.org/en/contact

Good luck, best to you,
Eliane Roos Schuhl, Paris

-----Message d'origine-----
De=A0: French SIG [mailto:frenchsig@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 4 mai 2017 08:04

Subject: Searching 1880'S Ederne' Alliance Teacher in Paris Files
From: Jeannette Nemon <jnet.nemon@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 11:24:22 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Luna CANETTI was my one of my two Sephardic Great-Nona's born in the Ottoma=
n
Empire around 1869, and she was the wife of Great-Nono, Nissim BEHAR of
Bulgaria. Nissim's inspiration for bringing the BEHAR Family >from Bulgaria
to Palestine was listening to the inspiring musings of a gentleman who
coincidentally had the same name, speak of his plans to begin a
French-Speaking School in Palestine. My Great-Grandfather was so inspired
that he moved our family in the first wave. While it was a known fact that
Luna was a School Teacher who was blind by adulthood, she's my only ancesto=
r
whose exact birthplace and parentage remain a puzzling mystery. Like a gift=
,
a few weeks ago I found a writing of my late Mother who made a brief
reference to Luna's teaching at the Ederne' Branch of Alliance Israelite
Universelle. After asking around, I found out that my Nono, her son, Michel=

BEHAR, also taught at Alliance, but at the Location in France prior to his
Agronomy career in Alexandria.

In the past week or so, I've learned that there's a whole community of
Alliance Alumni faring >from its inception that predates even my
Great-Grandmother. There've been locations in multiple countries, & multipl=
e
books and articles written about the Alliance, & there are yearbooks
available & copious files kept. A family I have linked to as DNA-Cousins
through my BEHAR/CANETTI family somehow are also involved with Genetic
genealogy.

Describing my finding, they mentioned that their Grandmother also taught at=

Alliance, and that while in Paris, they "spent part of a day obtaining all
her files." I told her that might not get me biological information, but
it's "Frosting on the cake." Her response was, "Oh, it's the better than an=
y
Frosting you could imagine!" Apparently the files included letters between
great-grandparents and the school, and mentioned family matters, dates, the=

names of previously unknown siblings. In short, there was so more
biographical information than they had hoped for! I wrote to the Alliance
office about a week ago & received no response. I am wondering if there is =
a
way I can find someone located a reasonable closeness to the Alliance Paris=

Office who I may retain to gather all there is? I would prefer to discuss
compensation privately when I have viable names or contacts.


Jeannette HILSENRAD-NEMON
Woodland Hills, California
JNet.Nemon@Gmail.com

(Sephardic/Maternal Side) BEHAR,CANETTI,DE VIDAS,REBI, ROUSSO,CURIEL, GAON




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French SIG #France Searching 1880'S Ederne' Alliance Teacher in Paris Files #france

eliagil.roos@...
 

Hi, be careful; the Alliance is no longer rue La Bruyere.
Go to their site:

http://www.aiu.org/en/contact

Good luck, best to you,
Eliane Roos Schuhl, Paris

-----Message d'origine-----
De=A0: French SIG [mailto:frenchsig@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 4 mai 2017 08:04

Subject: Searching 1880'S Ederne' Alliance Teacher in Paris Files
From: Jeannette Nemon <jnet.nemon@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 11:24:22 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Luna CANETTI was my one of my two Sephardic Great-Nona's born in the Ottoma=
n
Empire around 1869, and she was the wife of Great-Nono, Nissim BEHAR of
Bulgaria. Nissim's inspiration for bringing the BEHAR Family >from Bulgaria
to Palestine was listening to the inspiring musings of a gentleman who
coincidentally had the same name, speak of his plans to begin a
French-Speaking School in Palestine. My Great-Grandfather was so inspired
that he moved our family in the first wave. While it was a known fact that
Luna was a School Teacher who was blind by adulthood, she's my only ancesto=
r
whose exact birthplace and parentage remain a puzzling mystery. Like a gift=
,
a few weeks ago I found a writing of my late Mother who made a brief
reference to Luna's teaching at the Ederne' Branch of Alliance Israelite
Universelle. After asking around, I found out that my Nono, her son, Michel=

BEHAR, also taught at Alliance, but at the Location in France prior to his
Agronomy career in Alexandria.

In the past week or so, I've learned that there's a whole community of
Alliance Alumni faring >from its inception that predates even my
Great-Grandmother. There've been locations in multiple countries, & multipl=
e
books and articles written about the Alliance, & there are yearbooks
available & copious files kept. A family I have linked to as DNA-Cousins
through my BEHAR/CANETTI family somehow are also involved with Genetic
genealogy.

Describing my finding, they mentioned that their Grandmother also taught at=

Alliance, and that while in Paris, they "spent part of a day obtaining all
her files." I told her that might not get me biological information, but
it's "Frosting on the cake." Her response was, "Oh, it's the better than an=
y
Frosting you could imagine!" Apparently the files included letters between
great-grandparents and the school, and mentioned family matters, dates, the=

names of previously unknown siblings. In short, there was so more
biographical information than they had hoped for! I wrote to the Alliance
office about a week ago & received no response. I am wondering if there is =
a
way I can find someone located a reasonable closeness to the Alliance Paris=

Office who I may retain to gather all there is? I would prefer to discuss
compensation privately when I have viable names or contacts.


Jeannette HILSENRAD-NEMON
Woodland Hills, California
JNet.Nemon@Gmail.com

(Sephardic/Maternal Side) BEHAR,CANETTI,DE VIDAS,REBI, ROUSSO,CURIEL, GAON




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ar le logiciel antivirus Avast.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


Re: Bessarabia Vital Records #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

As you all probably know, we have translated about 160,000 Bessarabia Vital
records.   We are grateful to late Bob Wascou (z?l) and many
volunteers-translators in his team.  The project was put on hold for several
years, waiting for experienced volunteer to take it over. I believe that
there are a lot more to translate on this project, probably another 100,000
records.

While waiting and waiting  we found Birth Index for Kishinev for two years:
1889 and 1992 among Miriam W.?s great archival material we received last
year.  One translator is doing a great job on this project and slowly
transcribed about half of these records.

Also looking into Vital Records Introduction found that several sets were in
progress, I ordered and received several microfilms with the vital records,
and found that there are many sections of the microfilm I received not yet
transcribed. 
Here is a list of sets, which we need to work with:
Bendery 1884, 1895, 1896, 1897;
Bendery uezd (many mid-size towns and villages) 1897, 1899.  The list of
towns included Romanovka, Manzyr, Petrovka, Kaushany, Chimishliya, Kopanka,
Komrat and a few smaller once.

I only looked closely to ONE microfilm  (1100 images), and got this
information.  Also have two more microfilms.

Some of the pages >from the Birth Metrical books are not very well preserved,
probably in 10% we will have to guess a lot, but the rest is in good
condition.

In order for this to work, we need someone with experience in record
translation who will be a Project Manager for the Bessarabia Vital Records. 
I think that the person will have to know at least Russian.  The records are
written in Russian and Hebrew (not always).  And also we need translators
for the project.

If anyone of you has questions, please email me.

Yefim Kogan, Inna Vayner
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leaders and Coordinators


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: Bessarabia Vital Records #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

As you all probably know, we have translated about 160,000 Bessarabia Vital
records.   We are grateful to late Bob Wascou (z?l) and many
volunteers-translators in his team.  The project was put on hold for several
years, waiting for experienced volunteer to take it over. I believe that
there are a lot more to translate on this project, probably another 100,000
records.

While waiting and waiting  we found Birth Index for Kishinev for two years:
1889 and 1992 among Miriam W.?s great archival material we received last
year.  One translator is doing a great job on this project and slowly
transcribed about half of these records.

Also looking into Vital Records Introduction found that several sets were in
progress, I ordered and received several microfilms with the vital records,
and found that there are many sections of the microfilm I received not yet
transcribed. 
Here is a list of sets, which we need to work with:
Bendery 1884, 1895, 1896, 1897;
Bendery uezd (many mid-size towns and villages) 1897, 1899.  The list of
towns included Romanovka, Manzyr, Petrovka, Kaushany, Chimishliya, Kopanka,
Komrat and a few smaller once.

I only looked closely to ONE microfilm  (1100 images), and got this
information.  Also have two more microfilms.

Some of the pages >from the Birth Metrical books are not very well preserved,
probably in 10% we will have to guess a lot, but the rest is in good
condition.

In order for this to work, we need someone with experience in record
translation who will be a Project Manager for the Bessarabia Vital Records. 
I think that the person will have to know at least Russian.  The records are
written in Russian and Hebrew (not always).  And also we need translators
for the project.

If anyone of you has questions, please email me.

Yefim Kogan, Inna Vayner
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leaders and Coordinators

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