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Proper Source Notation for Slovak/Hungarian Birth, Death, Marriage records #hungary

peterlkuhn@...
 

Hi all,
Could someone send me examples of the proper source notation for Jewish
Parish as well as Civil birth, death, and marriage records for
Slovakia/Hungary (eg, including source, town, year, event, etc)? Or could
someone please point me in the direction of a genealogical reference that
would help me find the proper notation style? I have seen references to
"Jewish Parish records", "Rabbinical Records", "Jewish Register", etc. I
would like to see examples of how this is done in a proper/scholarly way so
I can construct an official list of my sources and references with the
proper notation. Perhaps the easiest would be if someone could point me to a
Slovak/Hungarian family tree online where the sources are constructed in an
official/scholarly manner.
Thanks for the help!
Peter Kuhn
Toronto/Manhattan

Researching:
BALDINGER: Dravecz(Dravce)
BENEDEK: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Faj, Litka, Nagyvarad(Oradea),
Vizsoly, New York
EDELMAN: Hrabkov (Hrabko), Kosice (Kassa), Krizovany, Palocsa(Plavec),
Tokaj, New York
ENGEL: Hrissocz(Hrisovce), New York, Pennsylvania
FUCHS: Litka
GARTENFELD: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Felsoszend (Szala, Szalaszend),
Fulo Kercs, Hernadvecse, Tolcsva, Vizsoly
GRUNBAUM: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Vizsoly
GRUNFELD: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Felsoszend (Szala, Szalaszend)
HALMOS: Basko, Cana(Hernadcsany, Csany), Gergelak(Gregorovce), Kosice
(Kassa)
HERCZ: Felso Szalok (Vysny Slavkov, Ober Shlauch), Haligovce(Haligocz),
HERSCHKOVITS: Abaujvar(Ujvar, Ujvaros), Abauj Nadasd, Basko,
Csecs(Cecejovce), Fony, Gava, Gergelak(Gregorovce), Regecz(Regec)
KERTESZ: Kosice(Kassa)
PETERFREUND: Bystrany(Welbach, Velbachy), Spissky Hrusov(SzepesKortvelyes),
Spisske Vlachy(SzepesOlaszi, Spisske Podhradie(SzepesVaralja), Felso Szalok
(Vysny Slavkov, Ober Shlauch),
SCHWARTZ: Gava, Huncovce(Hunfalu, Hunsdorf), Spissky Hrhov (Gorg, Gorgo),
SPICZ: Buzica(Buzita), Faj, Litka,
WEISZ: Csecs(Cecejovce), Fony
WEISZLOVITZ: Gergelak(Gregorovce), Ostrovany(Ostropatak),
Sabinov(Kis-szeben), Spissky Hrhov (Gorg, Gorgo)
*All of above towns are in either Szepes/Spis or Saros/Saris or Abauj-Torna.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Proper Source Notation for Slovak/Hungarian Birth, Death, Marriage records #hungary

peterlkuhn@...
 

Hi all,
Could someone send me examples of the proper source notation for Jewish
Parish as well as Civil birth, death, and marriage records for
Slovakia/Hungary (eg, including source, town, year, event, etc)? Or could
someone please point me in the direction of a genealogical reference that
would help me find the proper notation style? I have seen references to
"Jewish Parish records", "Rabbinical Records", "Jewish Register", etc. I
would like to see examples of how this is done in a proper/scholarly way so
I can construct an official list of my sources and references with the
proper notation. Perhaps the easiest would be if someone could point me to a
Slovak/Hungarian family tree online where the sources are constructed in an
official/scholarly manner.
Thanks for the help!
Peter Kuhn
Toronto/Manhattan

Researching:
BALDINGER: Dravecz(Dravce)
BENEDEK: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Faj, Litka, Nagyvarad(Oradea),
Vizsoly, New York
EDELMAN: Hrabkov (Hrabko), Kosice (Kassa), Krizovany, Palocsa(Plavec),
Tokaj, New York
ENGEL: Hrissocz(Hrisovce), New York, Pennsylvania
FUCHS: Litka
GARTENFELD: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Felsoszend (Szala, Szalaszend),
Fulo Kercs, Hernadvecse, Tolcsva, Vizsoly
GRUNBAUM: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Vizsoly
GRUNFELD: Alsonovaj(Novajidrany, Idrany), Felsoszend (Szala, Szalaszend)
HALMOS: Basko, Cana(Hernadcsany, Csany), Gergelak(Gregorovce), Kosice
(Kassa)
HERCZ: Felso Szalok (Vysny Slavkov, Ober Shlauch), Haligovce(Haligocz),
HERSCHKOVITS: Abaujvar(Ujvar, Ujvaros), Abauj Nadasd, Basko,
Csecs(Cecejovce), Fony, Gava, Gergelak(Gregorovce), Regecz(Regec)
KERTESZ: Kosice(Kassa)
PETERFREUND: Bystrany(Welbach, Velbachy), Spissky Hrusov(SzepesKortvelyes),
Spisske Vlachy(SzepesOlaszi, Spisske Podhradie(SzepesVaralja), Felso Szalok
(Vysny Slavkov, Ober Shlauch),
SCHWARTZ: Gava, Huncovce(Hunfalu, Hunsdorf), Spissky Hrhov (Gorg, Gorgo),
SPICZ: Buzica(Buzita), Faj, Litka,
WEISZ: Csecs(Cecejovce), Fony
WEISZLOVITZ: Gergelak(Gregorovce), Ostrovany(Ostropatak),
Sabinov(Kis-szeben), Spissky Hrhov (Gorg, Gorgo)
*All of above towns are in either Szepes/Spis or Saros/Saris or Abauj-Torna.


Lithuanian Passports #lithuania

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

After much "hemming and hawing", I finally joined the Ukmerge [Vilcomir]
District Research Group a few weeks ago.

I had hesitated, having had limited success [except for the Kaunas group]
in 3 other research groups - in finding information in my research of my
paternal FRUCHT/FRUKHT family.

In reviewing the records made available to me through my membership in
the group - I discovered the Ukmerge City 1919-1939 Internal Passport
Applications revealed one of my Dad's sisters had had a daughter - 7
years old in 1930!

Golda DOROGOJYTE [DOROGOY] - daughter of Malka FRUCHTAITE [FRUKHT] and
David DOROGOJAS [DOROGOY]
Vienuolyno st.16, Ukmerge
David was a Tailor.

I am familiar with other information on the Passport Application, thru other
documents.

Now I will begin my search for my cousin - what was her fate?

Could lightning strike twice?? I had found - through JewishGen - my Dad's
Lithuanian brother's 3 children - unknown to us before my research - alive
and well in Paris! We are FAMILY!

Is there anyone out in Jewish genealogy cyberspace who may have news of
Golda DOROGOY - who would be 87 today - if she is alive - G-d willing!!!!!

Thank you to all the people who have worked so hard on the translations of
the records.

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogical Resources Workbook Editor
JGSPBCI, FL


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lithuanian Passports #lithuania

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

After much "hemming and hawing", I finally joined the Ukmerge [Vilcomir]
District Research Group a few weeks ago.

I had hesitated, having had limited success [except for the Kaunas group]
in 3 other research groups - in finding information in my research of my
paternal FRUCHT/FRUKHT family.

In reviewing the records made available to me through my membership in
the group - I discovered the Ukmerge City 1919-1939 Internal Passport
Applications revealed one of my Dad's sisters had had a daughter - 7
years old in 1930!

Golda DOROGOJYTE [DOROGOY] - daughter of Malka FRUCHTAITE [FRUKHT] and
David DOROGOJAS [DOROGOY]
Vienuolyno st.16, Ukmerge
David was a Tailor.

I am familiar with other information on the Passport Application, thru other
documents.

Now I will begin my search for my cousin - what was her fate?

Could lightning strike twice?? I had found - through JewishGen - my Dad's
Lithuanian brother's 3 children - unknown to us before my research - alive
and well in Paris! We are FAMILY!

Is there anyone out in Jewish genealogy cyberspace who may have news of
Golda DOROGOY - who would be 87 today - if she is alive - G-d willing!!!!!

Thank you to all the people who have worked so hard on the translations of
the records.

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
Genealogical Resources Workbook Editor
JGSPBCI, FL


LitvakSIG Programming and the Conference in DC #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

LitvakSIG is hoping to provide a full day of programming at the annual
conference in Washington DC in August 2011. Our luncheon and annual meeting
will be included in this day.

We would like to include talks, presentations and SIG, BOF or research group
meetings in our day of programming.

Please let us know if you will be submitting a proposal for any Litvak
related event and what the topic is.

Please also let us know if you plan to attend the conference and our
luncheon, so we can get a feel for how large our Litvak audience will be.
If this will be your first conference, mention that too.

Thanks,
Eden Joachim
VP, LitvakSIG
esjoachim@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond to Eden privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LitvakSIG Programming and the Conference in DC #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

LitvakSIG is hoping to provide a full day of programming at the annual
conference in Washington DC in August 2011. Our luncheon and annual meeting
will be included in this day.

We would like to include talks, presentations and SIG, BOF or research group
meetings in our day of programming.

Please let us know if you will be submitting a proposal for any Litvak
related event and what the topic is.

Please also let us know if you plan to attend the conference and our
luncheon, so we can get a feel for how large our Litvak audience will be.
If this will be your first conference, mention that too.

Thanks,
Eden Joachim
VP, LitvakSIG
esjoachim@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond to Eden privately.


Meaning of the name Soistman #germany

Daniel Kester
 

Does anyone know anything about the name Soistman or Soistmann? Meaning,
etymology, origin, etc.? Thanks.

Daniel Kester, Buffalo, NY, geneo@... www.thekesters.net/Genealogy


German SIG #Germany Meaning of the name Soistman #germany

Daniel Kester
 

Does anyone know anything about the name Soistman or Soistmann? Meaning,
etymology, origin, etc.? Thanks.

Daniel Kester, Buffalo, NY, geneo@... www.thekesters.net/Genealogy


Re: Lviv House and Street Photo Project - Sloneczna #galicia

Eli Brauner
 

Hello Josef and Stella,

One of the ancestral houses of the Schrenzel family In Lwow was
at Sloneczna St. today Kluisha. I still don't know the house number.
Probably 20-22. Another house was probably No. 14.

Are you familiar with the name?

Do you know if the house numbers were changed? Maybe when the
street name changed?

Have you tried to locate in Lviv documents regarding assets? Every
house there has a file.

Do you know someone that can go there and take a look?

Eli Brauner
Israel


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Lviv House and Street Photo Project - Sloneczna #galicia

Eli Brauner
 

Hello Josef and Stella,

One of the ancestral houses of the Schrenzel family In Lwow was
at Sloneczna St. today Kluisha. I still don't know the house number.
Probably 20-22. Another house was probably No. 14.

Are you familiar with the name?

Do you know if the house numbers were changed? Maybe when the
street name changed?

Have you tried to locate in Lviv documents regarding assets? Every
house there has a file.

Do you know someone that can go there and take a look?

Eli Brauner
Israel


Austro-Hungarian newspapers in digital form #galicia

Grzegorz Gembala <ggembala@...>
 

The Austrian National Library started a project called ANNO - they
provide scans of various daily newspapers issued in the times of the
Austro-Hungarian Monarchy.

It includes also two Galician newspapers: Dziennik Krakowski (Krakow
Daily) for the years 1896 and 1897 and Kuryer Lwowski (Lemberger
Courier) 1885-1918 (both in Polish).

For more details and the list of other available newspapers and
magazines, visit http://anno.onb.ac.at/anno.htm

Grzegorz Gembala
Krakow, Poland


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Austro-Hungarian newspapers in digital form #galicia

Grzegorz Gembala <ggembala@...>
 

The Austrian National Library started a project called ANNO - they
provide scans of various daily newspapers issued in the times of the
Austro-Hungarian Monarchy.

It includes also two Galician newspapers: Dziennik Krakowski (Krakow
Daily) for the years 1896 and 1897 and Kuryer Lwowski (Lemberger
Courier) 1885-1918 (both in Polish).

For more details and the list of other available newspapers and
magazines, visit http://anno.onb.ac.at/anno.htm

Grzegorz Gembala
Krakow, Poland


342 000 records from the Jewish Community in Vienna #galicia

Traude Triebel
 

On http://www.genteam at you'll find 550,000 new records including

- 342,000 records >from the Jewish Community Vienna

- about 18,000 records, resignation of the Jewish Community

- more than 52,000 obits >from the Neue Freie Presse, appeared
between 1864 and 1938, concerning people, not only died in
Vienna, also >from the Crown Lands

- 5,000 entries >from Protestant marriages between 1763 and 1860

and many other interesting indexes.

The databases are without fee!

Good luck.

Traude

Traude Triebel
A-2700 Wr. Neustadt

Email: traude.triebel@...
Web: http://www.grave-pictures.at
Web: http://www.family-gruenwald.at


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia 342 000 records from the Jewish Community in Vienna #galicia

Traude Triebel
 

On http://www.genteam at you'll find 550,000 new records including

- 342,000 records >from the Jewish Community Vienna

- about 18,000 records, resignation of the Jewish Community

- more than 52,000 obits >from the Neue Freie Presse, appeared
between 1864 and 1938, concerning people, not only died in
Vienna, also >from the Crown Lands

- 5,000 entries >from Protestant marriages between 1763 and 1860

and many other interesting indexes.

The databases are without fee!

Good luck.

Traude

Traude Triebel
A-2700 Wr. Neustadt

Email: traude.triebel@...
Web: http://www.grave-pictures.at
Web: http://www.family-gruenwald.at


Given name 'Paul': Lithuania - South Africa #general

Adrian Freedman
 

Dear colleagues:

a great uncle living in South Africa was known as Paul
He came >from Lithuania

Please may I have suggestions as to what his name would have been
in Lithuania

He was said to have come >from "Wekvirsan" Please suggestions as to
correct place name. Could it be Vieksniai?

Appreciate all help

Best wishes

Adrian Freedman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given name 'Paul': Lithuania - South Africa #general

Adrian Freedman
 

Dear colleagues:

a great uncle living in South Africa was known as Paul
He came >from Lithuania

Please may I have suggestions as to what his name would have been
in Lithuania

He was said to have come >from "Wekvirsan" Please suggestions as to
correct place name. Could it be Vieksniai?

Appreciate all help

Best wishes

Adrian Freedman


Barnett family tree #general

Martine Laize <martine.laize@...>
 

I want to thank all of you who proposed to help me.
It made me possible to have a contact with the ancestry.com member about
Nathan Lubanitsky

Thank you very much
Martine Laize (France)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barnett family tree #general

Martine Laize <martine.laize@...>
 

I want to thank all of you who proposed to help me.
It made me possible to have a contact with the ancestry.com member about
Nathan Lubanitsky

Thank you very much
Martine Laize (France)


Re: Different surnames for same person #general

atefreebox-jgen@...
 

Tsarist Russia accumulated an enormous mass of constantly changing
legislation discriminating against Jews and to live under those laws
was a nightmare.

If I'm not mistaken, in an effort to curb Jewish birth rate the
Russians did indeed prevent Jews of one Guberniya in the Pale of
Settlement >from marrying Jews >from other Guberniyas, and established a
civil marriages quota for Jews in the Guberniya where they resided.
For people who fell outside this civil marriage quota religious
marriage was an option (that they would have taken anyway), and the
offspring of that religious marriage bore the mother's maiden surname as
its official surname.

In the eyes of nasty antisemitic Russian officials they were the bastard
offspring of an unmarried Jewish mother but, according to Jewish law,
that offspring was as legal as can be.

Ite Toybe
Belgium

...I don't know whether or not civil marriages of Jews were prevented
outside of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but it may be a variant of
the story being changed to "In Europe the authorities often didn't
let the Jews marry..."


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Different surnames for same person #general

atefreebox-jgen@...
 

Tsarist Russia accumulated an enormous mass of constantly changing
legislation discriminating against Jews and to live under those laws
was a nightmare.

If I'm not mistaken, in an effort to curb Jewish birth rate the
Russians did indeed prevent Jews of one Guberniya in the Pale of
Settlement >from marrying Jews >from other Guberniyas, and established a
civil marriages quota for Jews in the Guberniya where they resided.
For people who fell outside this civil marriage quota religious
marriage was an option (that they would have taken anyway), and the
offspring of that religious marriage bore the mother's maiden surname as
its official surname.

In the eyes of nasty antisemitic Russian officials they were the bastard
offspring of an unmarried Jewish mother but, according to Jewish law,
that offspring was as legal as can be.

Ite Toybe
Belgium

...I don't know whether or not civil marriages of Jews were prevented
outside of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but it may be a variant of
the story being changed to "In Europe the authorities often didn't
let the Jews marry..."