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RUBENSTEIN, Balta, Ukraine #general

Arnold Chamove <ArnoldChamove@...>
 

If there are RUBENSTEIN descendents >from Balta, Ukraine; could they please
contact me.
I am having a Russian book on Balta translated, and there are large parts of
the book about the important Rubenstein family there who immigrated to the
USA.
Arnold Chamove
In New Zealand


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RUBENSTEIN, Balta, Ukraine #general

Arnold Chamove <ArnoldChamove@...>
 

If there are RUBENSTEIN descendents >from Balta, Ukraine; could they please
contact me.
I am having a Russian book on Balta translated, and there are large parts of
the book about the important Rubenstein family there who immigrated to the
USA.
Arnold Chamove
In New Zealand


Original Surname from Kurland #general

Dodger4R@...
 

This is my 1st post, so please forgive any errors. My g/father Harry
SOLOMON's (>from Romania)naturalization document has my g/mother Anna's maiden
name as KLIGER >from Kurland (no town). They were married in Lower Manhattan,
NY on Oct.22, 1904 and his given name is listed as Harris on the marriage
certificate. I have searched for the past 7-8 years for my g/mother's maiden
name Kliger on passenger lists at every entry port in the U.S. and
Canadian Border Crossings with no results whatever. The 1910, 1920 and 1930 US
Census all have different years that my g/mother arrived in the US. The years
respectively in order are 1899, looks like 1889, and 1901. Does anyone out
there have any idea what her surname could have been before she arrived
here? None of my 5 surviving cousins have any old documents or knowledge of our
g/parents. Is this enough information I have provided or would more be
much more helpful? Thank you kindly for any assistance anyone may be able to
come up with to get through this brick wall. I am David Pearlstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Original Surname from Kurland #general

Dodger4R@...
 

This is my 1st post, so please forgive any errors. My g/father Harry
SOLOMON's (>from Romania)naturalization document has my g/mother Anna's maiden
name as KLIGER >from Kurland (no town). They were married in Lower Manhattan,
NY on Oct.22, 1904 and his given name is listed as Harris on the marriage
certificate. I have searched for the past 7-8 years for my g/mother's maiden
name Kliger on passenger lists at every entry port in the U.S. and
Canadian Border Crossings with no results whatever. The 1910, 1920 and 1930 US
Census all have different years that my g/mother arrived in the US. The years
respectively in order are 1899, looks like 1889, and 1901. Does anyone out
there have any idea what her surname could have been before she arrived
here? None of my 5 surviving cousins have any old documents or knowledge of our
g/parents. Is this enough information I have provided or would more be
much more helpful? Thank you kindly for any assistance anyone may be able to
come up with to get through this brick wall. I am David Pearlstein


Re: Woman wearing no Sheydl #general

Ira Leviton
 

Hi Cousins,

Andy Rosen asked about women wearing sheydls (sheitels) and men
wearing yarmulkes in photos.

I don't think that there's any generalization that can be made
from the lack of a head covering. I can only be anecdotal, but in
the late 19th or early 20th centuries, religious Jews sometimes
removed their head covering for a family photo - and certainly for
'official' photos. This may have varied >from place to place, as
could anything. It could also depend on whether the woman even had
a sheitel, or used a bandana or something similar, which may not
have been suitable for a photograph, and whether the photo was
taken outdoors or indoors, and whether or not it was donen by a
studio photographer.

Regards,

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Woman wearing no Sheydl #general

Ira Leviton
 

Hi Cousins,

Andy Rosen asked about women wearing sheydls (sheitels) and men
wearing yarmulkes in photos.

I don't think that there's any generalization that can be made
from the lack of a head covering. I can only be anecdotal, but in
the late 19th or early 20th centuries, religious Jews sometimes
removed their head covering for a family photo - and certainly for
'official' photos. This may have varied >from place to place, as
could anything. It could also depend on whether the woman even had
a sheitel, or used a bandana or something similar, which may not
have been suitable for a photograph, and whether the photo was
taken outdoors or indoors, and whether or not it was donen by a
studio photographer.

Regards,

Ira

Ira Leviton
New York City


Re: Woman wearing no Sheydl #general

Abramson, Arthur
 

Dear Andy,

The mother in the photograph may indeed have her head covered with
a _sheytl_ 'woman's wig.' Orthodox married women who cling to this practice=
often keep the _sheytl_ for dressing up and otherwise go about with a kerc=
hief over the hair.
Arthur S. Abramson
Mansfield, Connecticut, U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Woman wearing no Sheydl #general

Abramson, Arthur
 

Dear Andy,

The mother in the photograph may indeed have her head covered with
a _sheytl_ 'woman's wig.' Orthodox married women who cling to this practice=
often keep the _sheytl_ for dressing up and otherwise go about with a kerc=
hief over the hair.
Arthur S. Abramson
Mansfield, Connecticut, U.S.A.


Re: Woman wearing no Sheydl #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

There are religious sources around the turn of the century that decry
the recent (then) phenomenon of women "unfortunately" going without
their head covered and I presume the author of the source was
reffering to members of his (orthodox) community. Several decades
later in the USA (1940-50s), but amongst the same orthodox circles of
the above European rabbi there was also a certain trend , even among
orthodox rabbis that their wives did ot wear headcovering.

Today, at least in Israel, and amongst those inividual, called Baalei
Tshuva (people who aopted orthodoxy as their way of life though not
growing up so) there is a tendency to emphasize some kind of head
covering. My evaluation of it is that , similiar to a Kipa (yarmelke
for men) the head covering is more of a symbol of identification then
it is that men don't see their hair, since many of these women (at
least that I've come across ) don't cover their hair completely and
often just have a minimal covering.

Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Andy <arosen2@cox.net> wrote:

I've been in correspondence with a cousin who graciously shared a
family portrait dated to around the turn of the (20th) century. This
photo was purportedly taken in or around shtetl in what is now Eastern
Ukraine, about 100 miles west of Lviv. It was a studio portrait.

The region was Austro-Hungarian governed at the time and they were
relatively tolerant towards Jews.

The mother in this photo is not wearing any head covering. I have seen
hundreds of shtetlach photos like this and the woman always wears a
head cover. Her husband is not present in this photo, so I have no
idea if he would be wearing a yarmulke in this photo (he was in
America at the time and the wife left a few years later with her
children).

After they migrated to the US, the family eventually became
assimilated (very typical in my family).

The shtetl, to my understanding was traditionally Orthodox. Can anyone
provide any clues?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Woman wearing no Sheydl #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

There are religious sources around the turn of the century that decry
the recent (then) phenomenon of women "unfortunately" going without
their head covered and I presume the author of the source was
reffering to members of his (orthodox) community. Several decades
later in the USA (1940-50s), but amongst the same orthodox circles of
the above European rabbi there was also a certain trend , even among
orthodox rabbis that their wives did ot wear headcovering.

Today, at least in Israel, and amongst those inividual, called Baalei
Tshuva (people who aopted orthodoxy as their way of life though not
growing up so) there is a tendency to emphasize some kind of head
covering. My evaluation of it is that , similiar to a Kipa (yarmelke
for men) the head covering is more of a symbol of identification then
it is that men don't see their hair, since many of these women (at
least that I've come across ) don't cover their hair completely and
often just have a minimal covering.

Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Andy <arosen2@cox.net> wrote:

I've been in correspondence with a cousin who graciously shared a
family portrait dated to around the turn of the (20th) century. This
photo was purportedly taken in or around shtetl in what is now Eastern
Ukraine, about 100 miles west of Lviv. It was a studio portrait.

The region was Austro-Hungarian governed at the time and they were
relatively tolerant towards Jews.

The mother in this photo is not wearing any head covering. I have seen
hundreds of shtetlach photos like this and the woman always wears a
head cover. Her husband is not present in this photo, so I have no
idea if he would be wearing a yarmulke in this photo (he was in
America at the time and the wife left a few years later with her
children).

After they migrated to the US, the family eventually became
assimilated (very typical in my family).

The shtetl, to my understanding was traditionally Orthodox. Can anyone
provide any clues?


NYC, Cuba, USSR: BERG, PUPKO #belarus

Irene Newhouse
 

I have three images on ViewMate, all of them in Russian:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17524 is the inscription -
all of it, such as it is - on the back of a portrait taken in 1977.
I'm hoping that the word in front is a name, because I inherited this picture
from my father's cousin & she figured she didn't need to label any of her photos
because *she* knew who they were. [And actually, we had no idea she had any at
all, let alone so many].

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17529 is page 1 of a
letter written in NYC to my father's cousin in Havana, Cuba - Max BERG.
Max Berg sponsored her entry into the US. I know it starts Dear Vera... but then?

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17530 is the rest of
the letter. Obviously I can read Max Berg's address [not to worry - he's been
gone for quite some time & no family member lives at that address any more]
& 'telephone' & his signature 'Max', but the closing?

Thanks for your help!
Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI
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Belarus SIG #Belarus NYC, Cuba, USSR: BERG, PUPKO #belarus

Irene Newhouse
 

I have three images on ViewMate, all of them in Russian:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17524 is the inscription -
all of it, such as it is - on the back of a portrait taken in 1977.
I'm hoping that the word in front is a name, because I inherited this picture
from my father's cousin & she figured she didn't need to label any of her photos
because *she* knew who they were. [And actually, we had no idea she had any at
all, let alone so many].

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17529 is page 1 of a
letter written in NYC to my father's cousin in Havana, Cuba - Max BERG.
Max Berg sponsored her entry into the US. I know it starts Dear Vera... but then?

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17530 is the rest of
the letter. Obviously I can read Max Berg's address [not to worry - he's been
gone for quite some time & no family member lives at that address any more]
& 'telephone' & his signature 'Max', but the closing?

Thanks for your help!
Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI
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Alte Teitelbaum #ukraine

Carol Cohen
 

Alte Teitelbaum landed in NYC on 11/18/1902 when she was 15 after her
mother died. She stated on her immigration papers that she was coming
to stay with her sister who lived on Clinton Street. She listed my
grandfather (AB Waldmann) as her contact. My Grandmother, Rosa Sass
Waldman was a sister to Alte's mother not her sister. She listed
Wolica (near Podjace) as her former home, which was also the former
home of my grandfather. Alte lived with my grandparents for several
years, and moved with them to Texas in 1906. After a few years in
Texas her father arrived. He had remarried and come to the US with
his new wife and they wanted Alte to come live with them. I believe
they settled in Pennsylvania where some of the relatives lived. No
one seems to know what happened to Alte. My aunt and uncles called
her "Dollie". I have tried to find marriage records for Alte in
Pennsylvania. Is there anyone out there who recognizes her name?

Thank you,

Carol Waldman Cohen

Researching: Waldman(n), Sass, Teitelbaum, Konrad
Towns: Wolica, Podjace, Wiktorifka, Ternopil, Kozova


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Alte Teitelbaum #ukraine

Carol Cohen
 

Alte Teitelbaum landed in NYC on 11/18/1902 when she was 15 after her
mother died. She stated on her immigration papers that she was coming
to stay with her sister who lived on Clinton Street. She listed my
grandfather (AB Waldmann) as her contact. My Grandmother, Rosa Sass
Waldman was a sister to Alte's mother not her sister. She listed
Wolica (near Podjace) as her former home, which was also the former
home of my grandfather. Alte lived with my grandparents for several
years, and moved with them to Texas in 1906. After a few years in
Texas her father arrived. He had remarried and come to the US with
his new wife and they wanted Alte to come live with them. I believe
they settled in Pennsylvania where some of the relatives lived. No
one seems to know what happened to Alte. My aunt and uncles called
her "Dollie". I have tried to find marriage records for Alte in
Pennsylvania. Is there anyone out there who recognizes her name?

Thank you,

Carol Waldman Cohen

Researching: Waldman(n), Sass, Teitelbaum, Konrad
Towns: Wolica, Podjace, Wiktorifka, Ternopil, Kozova


Judaica European Collections online #general

Saul Issroff
 

http://www.judaica-europeana.eu/JE_newsletter2_je.html
discusses a number of online Jewish European Museums collections and a
virtual museum

--
Saul Issroff


Beth Moses Cemetery, Farmingdale- Photos needed #general

Sandy Berger
 

Hi...
I have had tremendous help >from the JewishGen community in the past so
I am hoping someone can do another tremendous favor and assist me once
again!

If anyone is going to the Beth Moses Cemetery on Wellwood Ave. in
Farmingdale, NY and can take photos of two graves, please contact me
and I will provide further info. (I think there is a yarzeit coming
up soon for one of them but I need the photos to confirm.)

Thank You!
Shaindy Schachter


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Judaica European Collections online #general

Saul Issroff
 

http://www.judaica-europeana.eu/JE_newsletter2_je.html
discusses a number of online Jewish European Museums collections and a
virtual museum

--
Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Beth Moses Cemetery, Farmingdale- Photos needed #general

Sandy Berger
 

Hi...
I have had tremendous help >from the JewishGen community in the past so
I am hoping someone can do another tremendous favor and assist me once
again!

If anyone is going to the Beth Moses Cemetery on Wellwood Ave. in
Farmingdale, NY and can take photos of two graves, please contact me
and I will provide further info. (I think there is a yarzeit coming
up soon for one of them but I need the photos to confirm.)

Thank You!
Shaindy Schachter


Posted Viewmates needing translations from Polish #general

Marilyn Silva <marilynjps@...>
 

Genners;

I have loaded 4 images onto viewmate; birth and death records. I
would very much appreciate translation of these records. They can
be found at:

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17531
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17532
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17533
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17534

Thanking you all in advance
Be Well
Marilyn Silva

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Posted Viewmates needing translations from Polish #general

Marilyn Silva <marilynjps@...>
 

Genners;

I have loaded 4 images onto viewmate; birth and death records. I
would very much appreciate translation of these records. They can
be found at:

www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17531
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17532
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17533
www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17534

Thanking you all in advance
Be Well
Marilyn Silva

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