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Viewmate #general

Lisa Muskal
 

Please help me to find out if these people are related.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM61411
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM61410
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM61380

My Father in law survived Nordenhausen and Auschwitz.
He came to USA sponsored by Muszkal family in Chicago.
He settled in Cleveland Ohio with other Muszkal family.
He had the picture of his "brother" Milach-Elimelech or Tzvi Hirsch Muszkal
He did not look like any of his brothers or sisters.
I am thinking there is another story and that it may be a cousin
When doing research on Shoah database, I found the picture of Jakob
Dov and Devorah Jolan Muszkal.
Milach looks very much like Devora Jolan.
I am hoping to gain more information regarding this family who lived
in Romania at that time.
Thank you.

Lisa Muskal
lisa@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate #general

Lisa Muskal
 

Please help me to find out if these people are related.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM61411
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM61410
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM61380

My Father in law survived Nordenhausen and Auschwitz.
He came to USA sponsored by Muszkal family in Chicago.
He settled in Cleveland Ohio with other Muszkal family.
He had the picture of his "brother" Milach-Elimelech or Tzvi Hirsch Muszkal
He did not look like any of his brothers or sisters.
I am thinking there is another story and that it may be a cousin
When doing research on Shoah database, I found the picture of Jakob
Dov and Devorah Jolan Muszkal.
Milach looks very much like Devora Jolan.
I am hoping to gain more information regarding this family who lived
in Romania at that time.
Thank you.

Lisa Muskal
lisa@...


Jojne presumably not the father - any other theories? #general

rcbernstein
 

I'm looking for some input regarding a conundrum I've encountered.

As part of my research into Chasya Sura MORGENSZTERN (b1864 in Biala
Podlaska) and her two daughters Sophia (b1887) and Rebecca (b1890), and
son Mordechai (b+/-1894) who moved to London, I found a marriage record in
1882 >from Biala which details her marriage as follows:
Groom: Jojne LICHTMAN (b1861), son of Leibka and Menicha Tema both deceased
Bride: Chasya Sura (b1865), daughter of Leibki and Tzivia both alive

I can find no record of any children born to this couple, nor of Jojne's
death, nor of any other marriage of Chasya Sura. I have mapped out a lot
more of the families but it doesn't seem relevant here.

Surprisingly, in 1890 I've found the birth records for two sisters born in
Biala and both registered on the same day (records 56 and 57), Tzivia
Ruchla born 1887 and Ginda Rivka born 1890. The father appearing at the
registration is Itsik Jojnasz ROTBLAT (b1861) who declares that the girls
were born to Chana Sura MORGENSZTERN (b1864). It does NOT say "born to his
lawful wife".

The birth registered immediately before Tzivia (number 55) and the one
immediately after Ginda (number 58) both DO state "born to his wife".

I'm assuming that Jojne LICHTMAN did not become Itsik Jojnasz ROTBLAT by
changing his name, and that Chasya Sura and Itsik were not registered as
married. Given the above details does this seem a sensible conclusion or
can anyone suggest any other possible situations? I'm happy to entertain
any other theories!

TIA,
Ruvane Bernstein
(Beitar, Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jojne presumably not the father - any other theories? #general

rcbernstein
 

I'm looking for some input regarding a conundrum I've encountered.

As part of my research into Chasya Sura MORGENSZTERN (b1864 in Biala
Podlaska) and her two daughters Sophia (b1887) and Rebecca (b1890), and
son Mordechai (b+/-1894) who moved to London, I found a marriage record in
1882 >from Biala which details her marriage as follows:
Groom: Jojne LICHTMAN (b1861), son of Leibka and Menicha Tema both deceased
Bride: Chasya Sura (b1865), daughter of Leibki and Tzivia both alive

I can find no record of any children born to this couple, nor of Jojne's
death, nor of any other marriage of Chasya Sura. I have mapped out a lot
more of the families but it doesn't seem relevant here.

Surprisingly, in 1890 I've found the birth records for two sisters born in
Biala and both registered on the same day (records 56 and 57), Tzivia
Ruchla born 1887 and Ginda Rivka born 1890. The father appearing at the
registration is Itsik Jojnasz ROTBLAT (b1861) who declares that the girls
were born to Chana Sura MORGENSZTERN (b1864). It does NOT say "born to his
lawful wife".

The birth registered immediately before Tzivia (number 55) and the one
immediately after Ginda (number 58) both DO state "born to his wife".

I'm assuming that Jojne LICHTMAN did not become Itsik Jojnasz ROTBLAT by
changing his name, and that Chasya Sura and Itsik were not registered as
married. Given the above details does this seem a sensible conclusion or
can anyone suggest any other possible situations? I'm happy to entertain
any other theories!

TIA,
Ruvane Bernstein
(Beitar, Israel)


Call for Papers is Now Open for IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference -- August 5-10, 2018 #latinamerica

IAJGS 2018 Listserv Communications <iajgs2018@...>
 

The IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference program committee is delighted to
announce that the Call for Papers is now open for the 38th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, to be held in Warsaw,
Poland, >from Sunday, 5 August 2018, to Friday, 10 August 2018. This
gathering of Jewish genealogists >from around the world in a place of
historic import to our collective story will be memorable and should
not be missed! English will be the official language.

The conference will be held in a Warsaw convention-center hotel
-- walking distance to the city center -- with easy access to the
Nozyk synagogue, Kosher restaurants, and other Warsaw attractions such
as Mila 18, the Warsaw Ghetto, and the Zookeeper's villa. (Specific
hotel details will be announced soon.) The conference will be geared
towards Jewish genealogists who may or may not themselves have roots
in Poland. It will be held in close cooperation with the Polish State
Archives and may also attract archivists >from other countries as
speakers. Panel discussions, one-hour lectures, and shorter 30-minute
presentations are encouraged to be proposed in this Call for Papers.
There will also be a limited number of computer workshops -- if proposals
for them are received.

The Warsaw Conference will be co-hosted by the POLIN Museum of the
History of Polish Jews and by the Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical
Institute of Warsaw, which may each provide speakers on topics closely
related to their respective institutions.

Please visit the conference website at <www.iajgs2018.org> in order to
access the Abstract Submission page. That page provides more detailed
information about what our Program Committee will be looking for in
their review of proposals. Papers may be submitted between now and
11:59 pm (Central Standard Time) 31 December, 2017.

Questions about the Call for Papers or other conference topics may be
addressed to <info@...> or to the Program Committee at
<program@...>; kindly do not reply to this e-mail address.

To keep up with news about the conference, please join our moderated
Facebook Group at <www.facebook.iajgs2018.org> or our moderated email
discussion list at <www.list.iajgs2018.org>.

We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals and to
greeting you in Warsaw next summer. We appreciate your help in
making this a remarkable event.

Dan Oren
JewishGen ListServ Liaison for the Program Committee
IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference


Latin America #LatinAmerica Call for Papers is Now Open for IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference -- August 5-10, 2018 #latinamerica

IAJGS 2018 Listserv Communications <iajgs2018@...>
 

The IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference program committee is delighted to
announce that the Call for Papers is now open for the 38th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, to be held in Warsaw,
Poland, >from Sunday, 5 August 2018, to Friday, 10 August 2018. This
gathering of Jewish genealogists >from around the world in a place of
historic import to our collective story will be memorable and should
not be missed! English will be the official language.

The conference will be held in a Warsaw convention-center hotel
-- walking distance to the city center -- with easy access to the
Nozyk synagogue, Kosher restaurants, and other Warsaw attractions such
as Mila 18, the Warsaw Ghetto, and the Zookeeper's villa. (Specific
hotel details will be announced soon.) The conference will be geared
towards Jewish genealogists who may or may not themselves have roots
in Poland. It will be held in close cooperation with the Polish State
Archives and may also attract archivists >from other countries as
speakers. Panel discussions, one-hour lectures, and shorter 30-minute
presentations are encouraged to be proposed in this Call for Papers.
There will also be a limited number of computer workshops -- if proposals
for them are received.

The Warsaw Conference will be co-hosted by the POLIN Museum of the
History of Polish Jews and by the Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical
Institute of Warsaw, which may each provide speakers on topics closely
related to their respective institutions.

Please visit the conference website at <www.iajgs2018.org> in order to
access the Abstract Submission page. That page provides more detailed
information about what our Program Committee will be looking for in
their review of proposals. Papers may be submitted between now and
11:59 pm (Central Standard Time) 31 December, 2017.

Questions about the Call for Papers or other conference topics may be
addressed to <info@...> or to the Program Committee at
<program@...>; kindly do not reply to this e-mail address.

To keep up with news about the conference, please join our moderated
Facebook Group at <www.facebook.iajgs2018.org> or our moderated email
discussion list at <www.list.iajgs2018.org>.

We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals and to
greeting you in Warsaw next summer. We appreciate your help in
making this a remarkable event.

Dan Oren
JewishGen ListServ Liaison for the Program Committee
IAJGS 2018 Warsaw Conference


Seeking MUELLER in Windesheim, Rheinland Pfalz #germany

Michael Rubin
 

I am seeking further information on the MUELLER family >from the early
1800s and prior, originating in Windesheim near Kreuznach in Rhineland
Pfalz. Eliza/Lisette MUELLER was born in 1830 in Windesheim and
immigrated to the US (New York City) in the early 1850s.

Guidance on which archive/Standesamt is responsible for retaining old
records for this area would be appreciated.

Information on the Jewish community of Windesheim and the local region
is also of interest. Thank you

Michael Rubin, Boston, MA rubinmichaels@...


German SIG #Germany Seeking MUELLER in Windesheim, Rheinland Pfalz #germany

Michael Rubin
 

I am seeking further information on the MUELLER family >from the early
1800s and prior, originating in Windesheim near Kreuznach in Rhineland
Pfalz. Eliza/Lisette MUELLER was born in 1830 in Windesheim and
immigrated to the US (New York City) in the early 1850s.

Guidance on which archive/Standesamt is responsible for retaining old
records for this area would be appreciated.

Information on the Jewish community of Windesheim and the local region
is also of interest. Thank you

Michael Rubin, Boston, MA rubinmichaels@...


HERTZ and JAFFE rabbinic lines #rabbinic

Tracy Fish <tsfishphotography@...>
 

Hello all. There are two last names I am interested in:

1. HERTZ: I am wondering if anybody has any connection or ancestral
information on the paternal lineage of former Chief Rabbi of the
British Empire, Joseph Herman HERTZ or advice on how to perhaps extend
my research.

His father Simon HERTZ is the brother to Sarah HERTZ (married WEIS) my 2XGG.

2. JAFFE: Trying to learn if my JAFFE family is connected to the Rabbi
Mordecai JAFFE lineage that is documented. Seeking advice as to best
methods for learning possible connections.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday to those celebrating!

Tracy Fish, NY & NV
tsfishphotography@...

Names researching: CHELMINSKI, DORINSON, FISCH, FRIEDMAN, GORDON,
HERTZ, JAFFE, KAPLAN, KLEIN, LEIBOWITZ, LUNGSMAN, MARKOVSKY (MARKS),
SINGER, WEGODA, WEIS


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic HERTZ and JAFFE rabbinic lines #rabbinic

Tracy Fish <tsfishphotography@...>
 

Hello all. There are two last names I am interested in:

1. HERTZ: I am wondering if anybody has any connection or ancestral
information on the paternal lineage of former Chief Rabbi of the
British Empire, Joseph Herman HERTZ or advice on how to perhaps extend
my research.

His father Simon HERTZ is the brother to Sarah HERTZ (married WEIS) my 2XGG.

2. JAFFE: Trying to learn if my JAFFE family is connected to the Rabbi
Mordecai JAFFE lineage that is documented. Seeking advice as to best
methods for learning possible connections.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday to those celebrating!

Tracy Fish, NY & NV
tsfishphotography@...

Names researching: CHELMINSKI, DORINSON, FISCH, FRIEDMAN, GORDON,
HERTZ, JAFFE, KAPLAN, KLEIN, LEIBOWITZ, LUNGSMAN, MARKOVSKY (MARKS),
SINGER, WEGODA, WEIS


JGSGB Sussex Group - Autumn Meeting: Wed 29 Nov #unitedkingdom

Michael Shade
 

JGSGB Sussex Group - Autumn Meeting
Wednesday 29 November, 19:00-21:30

Ralli Hall, 81 Denmark Villas, Hove, East Sussex, BN3 3TH

'Volunteers, Conscripts and Conventionists - Frankensteins at War:
1914-18'

Michael Shade delves into the archives to discover the widely differing
wartime experiences of a dozen members of one extended family.

After a break for refreshment, we'll have a brief report on
local initiatives to recover the history of Sussex's Jewish
community, and an Ask and Share Workshop: bring your questions and share
your experience.

Open to anyone interested in Jewish Family History; JGSGB Members free,
non-Members £3.

Ralli Hall is opposite Hove Station, no car parking on site. Local map
with access information will be sent on request.

If you intend coming, or have any queries, please contact me at the
email address below.

Michael Shade
Convenor, JGSGB Sussex Group
michael@...


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom JGSGB Sussex Group - Autumn Meeting: Wed 29 Nov #unitedkingdom

Michael Shade
 

JGSGB Sussex Group - Autumn Meeting
Wednesday 29 November, 19:00-21:30

Ralli Hall, 81 Denmark Villas, Hove, East Sussex, BN3 3TH

'Volunteers, Conscripts and Conventionists - Frankensteins at War:
1914-18'

Michael Shade delves into the archives to discover the widely differing
wartime experiences of a dozen members of one extended family.

After a break for refreshment, we'll have a brief report on
local initiatives to recover the history of Sussex's Jewish
community, and an Ask and Share Workshop: bring your questions and share
your experience.

Open to anyone interested in Jewish Family History; JGSGB Members free,
non-Members £3.

Ralli Hall is opposite Hove Station, no car parking on site. Local map
with access information will be sent on request.

If you intend coming, or have any queries, please contact me at the
email address below.

Michael Shade
Convenor, JGSGB Sussex Group
michael@...


Re: Nyitra Vital Records #hungary

voblath4148@...
 

I believe this message is in plain text. Could you advise me who I
contact regarding the status of the Nyitra marriages/death records
project? I am interested in assisting if translators are still
required.

Thank you.
Valerie Oblath

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:04 PM, H-SIG digest
<h-sig@...> wrote:
H-SIG Digest for Tuesday, November 14, 2017.

1. New material in the Hungarian Databases

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: New material in the Hungarian Databases
From: ethnoca@...
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:56:40 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

I am happy to announce that we were able to make another large upload into the
Hungarian databases, over 16000 entries this time. Besides the smaller projects of
Fuzer [Abauj-Torna], Monok [Zemplen] and Kisszeben [Saros], we also have some
additional data for Aranyosmeggyes [Szatmar] and Papa [Veszprem]. But the most
substential additions are the long awaited civil birth records for Kassa for the
years 1895-1915, and the huge Nyitra project - births only for now, marriages and
deaths are being readied for the next upload. A great big thank you goes for
these to Peter Absolon and Henry Wellisch respectively.

I would also like to remind our SIG members that if the new material will help in
the progress of your research, you can show your appreciation by making a small
donation towards further acquisitions.

Sarah Feuerstein

JewishGen Hungarian Vital Records Coordinator

Moderator: Many thanks to Sarah who has done a marvelous job coordinating this
effort and painstakingly reviewing the transcribed records before they are uploaded.
Volunteers like Sarah and those who transcribe records are essential to our effort
to continue to provide an outstanding resource for those researching their Hungarian
Jewish families. I you are unable to help transcribe records, please consider a
donation to allow us to continue acquiring new images >from archives overseas.



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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Nyitra Vital Records #hungary

voblath4148@...
 

I believe this message is in plain text. Could you advise me who I
contact regarding the status of the Nyitra marriages/death records
project? I am interested in assisting if translators are still
required.

Thank you.
Valerie Oblath

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:04 PM, H-SIG digest
<h-sig@...> wrote:
H-SIG Digest for Tuesday, November 14, 2017.

1. New material in the Hungarian Databases

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: New material in the Hungarian Databases
From: ethnoca@...
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:56:40 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

I am happy to announce that we were able to make another large upload into the
Hungarian databases, over 16000 entries this time. Besides the smaller projects of
Fuzer [Abauj-Torna], Monok [Zemplen] and Kisszeben [Saros], we also have some
additional data for Aranyosmeggyes [Szatmar] and Papa [Veszprem]. But the most
substential additions are the long awaited civil birth records for Kassa for the
years 1895-1915, and the huge Nyitra project - births only for now, marriages and
deaths are being readied for the next upload. A great big thank you goes for
these to Peter Absolon and Henry Wellisch respectively.

I would also like to remind our SIG members that if the new material will help in
the progress of your research, you can show your appreciation by making a small
donation towards further acquisitions.

Sarah Feuerstein

JewishGen Hungarian Vital Records Coordinator

Moderator: Many thanks to Sarah who has done a marvelous job coordinating this
effort and painstakingly reviewing the transcribed records before they are uploaded.
Volunteers like Sarah and those who transcribe records are essential to our effort
to continue to provide an outstanding resource for those researching their Hungarian
Jewish families. I you are unable to help transcribe records, please consider a
donation to allow us to continue acquiring new images >from archives overseas.



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Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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and check out the fabulous Hungary Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/
For back issues, search the H-SIG message archives at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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donation question #hungary

drgoldin90@...
 

In appreciation for the huge upload of birth records >from the Nyitra project I would
like to make a donation. Is there a specific place to make my donation in support
of the ongoing work on the marriages and deaths? Thanks for the good work and for
the guidance.

Marge Goldin

Moderator: The best way for Marge and others to show their appreciation for H-SIG and
to support our ongoing work is with a donation to the Hungarian SIG General Fund. Go
to https://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=15 to
make your donation on-line.


Hungary SIG #Hungary donation question #hungary

drgoldin90@...
 

In appreciation for the huge upload of birth records >from the Nyitra project I would
like to make a donation. Is there a specific place to make my donation in support
of the ongoing work on the marriages and deaths? Thanks for the good work and for
the guidance.

Marge Goldin

Moderator: The best way for Marge and others to show their appreciation for H-SIG and
to support our ongoing work is with a donation to the Hungarian SIG General Fund. Go
to https://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=15 to
make your donation on-line.


Muszkal Family-Romania #romania

Lisa Muskal
 

Jaakob Dov Muszkal and Devora Jolan Muskal (husband-wife)
Does anyone have more information regarding this family?
I believe that they were members of the Satu Mare community.
While doing research on the Muszkal family in the Holocaust database,
I came across these pictures.

https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsedit.asp?Loc=A&ID=61411
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsedit.asp?Loc=A&ID=61410
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsedit.asp?Loc=A&ID=61380

My Father in law survived Nordenhausen and Auschwitz. His name was
Shmuel Aryeh son of Yitzchok Aisik.
He told us that he lived on a farm and had sheep, cows and many fields
before the war.
His Father died due to a bullet wound in WWI
He came to USA sponsored by Muszkal family in Chicago.
He settled in Cleveland Ohio with other Muszkal family.
He had the picture of his "brother" Milach-Elimelech or Tzvi Hirsch Muszkal
He did not look like any of his brothers or sisters.
I am thinking there is another story and that it may be a cousin
When doing research on Shoah database, I found the picture of Jakob
Dov and Devorah Jolan Muszkal.
Milach looks very much like Devora Jolan.
I am hoping to gain more information regarding this family who lived
in Romania at that time.
Thank you.
--
Lisa Muskal
Cleveland Ohio USA


Romania SIG #Romania Muszkal Family-Romania #romania

Lisa Muskal
 

Jaakob Dov Muszkal and Devora Jolan Muskal (husband-wife)
Does anyone have more information regarding this family?
I believe that they were members of the Satu Mare community.
While doing research on the Muszkal family in the Holocaust database,
I came across these pictures.

https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsedit.asp?Loc=A&ID=61411
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsedit.asp?Loc=A&ID=61410
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsedit.asp?Loc=A&ID=61380

My Father in law survived Nordenhausen and Auschwitz. His name was
Shmuel Aryeh son of Yitzchok Aisik.
He told us that he lived on a farm and had sheep, cows and many fields
before the war.
His Father died due to a bullet wound in WWI
He came to USA sponsored by Muszkal family in Chicago.
He settled in Cleveland Ohio with other Muszkal family.
He had the picture of his "brother" Milach-Elimelech or Tzvi Hirsch Muszkal
He did not look like any of his brothers or sisters.
I am thinking there is another story and that it may be a cousin
When doing research on Shoah database, I found the picture of Jakob
Dov and Devorah Jolan Muszkal.
Milach looks very much like Devora Jolan.
I am hoping to gain more information regarding this family who lived
in Romania at that time.
Thank you.
--
Lisa Muskal
Cleveland Ohio USA


Kolki/VUGMAN #ukraine

David Goldman
 

Hello everybody. I have discovered that a maternal great-great-grandmother
originated not in Mayaki near Odessa where her husband was an official
government rabbi, but in the town of Kolki. I discovered this >from a birth
record of her brother.

Her parents were Ovsey (Yehoshua) and Chava VUGMAN. Chava/Eva likely had had
a first husband named ELKIS who died after only a couple of years of
marriage.

David Goldman
NYC


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kolki/VUGMAN #ukraine

David Goldman
 

Hello everybody. I have discovered that a maternal great-great-grandmother
originated not in Mayaki near Odessa where her husband was an official
government rabbi, but in the town of Kolki. I discovered this >from a birth
record of her brother.

Her parents were Ovsey (Yehoshua) and Chava VUGMAN. Chava/Eva likely had had
a first husband named ELKIS who died after only a couple of years of
marriage.

David Goldman
NYC