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A little more on Baden's on-line records #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:

Having used the Collection 390 (Karlsruhe) and L10 (Freiburg) on-line
Baden vital records quite a bit, let me add a few more points.

1) These are duplicate registers, i.e., annual copies handed in to the
local government. They are bound together year by year.

2) It was not necessarily a Christian clergyman keeping the Jewish records.

3) Universal civil registration began in Baden on Feb. 1, 1870 and
adopted the German Empire's standard forms on Jan. 1, 1876.

4) The whole "conversion" misunderstanding may have been exacerbated by
FamilySearch and Ancestry, which have indexed zillions of these records
and called many if not all the Jewish ones "Lutheran"--including the
9-volume Jewish-only set for Mannheim. I have pointed this out to the
organizations involved.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA  research coordinator, GerSIG


German SIG #Germany A little more on Baden's on-line records #germany

Roger Lustig
 

Dear all:

Having used the Collection 390 (Karlsruhe) and L10 (Freiburg) on-line
Baden vital records quite a bit, let me add a few more points.

1) These are duplicate registers, i.e., annual copies handed in to the
local government. They are bound together year by year.

2) It was not necessarily a Christian clergyman keeping the Jewish records.

3) Universal civil registration began in Baden on Feb. 1, 1870 and
adopted the German Empire's standard forms on Jan. 1, 1876.

4) The whole "conversion" misunderstanding may have been exacerbated by
FamilySearch and Ancestry, which have indexed zillions of these records
and called many if not all the Jewish ones "Lutheran"--including the
9-volume Jewish-only set for Mannheim. I have pointed this out to the
organizations involved.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA  research coordinator, GerSIG


Name adoption/change conventions during Napoleonic occupation of the Rhineland #germany

Michael Rubin
 

I am seeking input on naming practices during the Napoleonic-ordered
name adoption wave of 1808 in communities west of the Rhine.
In Hessen and elsewhere, it's my experience that only formal last names
were taken to replace patronymics. During the Napoleonic name-adoption,
however, I see evidence of wholesale name changes including first name
and adoption of formal new last/family name, such as Isaac Feist becoming
Elias STERN. I am interested in the experience of others with family
originating in this region.

Michael Rubin, Boston rubinmichaels@...

Moderator note: Like all questions about German Jewish surnames,
a detailed answer can be found in the 125 page Introduction * to
"A Dictionary of German Jewish Surnames" by Obermayer Award winner
Lars Menk. Avotaynu Press, 2005
ISBN-10: 1886223203 ISBN-13: 978-1886223202
* The introduction includes a 20 page bibliography. Mod 1


German SIG #Germany Name adoption/change conventions during Napoleonic occupation of the Rhineland #germany

Michael Rubin
 

I am seeking input on naming practices during the Napoleonic-ordered
name adoption wave of 1808 in communities west of the Rhine.
In Hessen and elsewhere, it's my experience that only formal last names
were taken to replace patronymics. During the Napoleonic name-adoption,
however, I see evidence of wholesale name changes including first name
and adoption of formal new last/family name, such as Isaac Feist becoming
Elias STERN. I am interested in the experience of others with family
originating in this region.

Michael Rubin, Boston rubinmichaels@...

Moderator note: Like all questions about German Jewish surnames,
a detailed answer can be found in the 125 page Introduction * to
"A Dictionary of German Jewish Surnames" by Obermayer Award winner
Lars Menk. Avotaynu Press, 2005
ISBN-10: 1886223203 ISBN-13: 978-1886223202
* The introduction includes a 20 page bibliography. Mod 1


upcoming genealogy program at the Center for Jewish History in New York #general

Moriah Amit
 

The Ackman & Ziff Genealogy Institute at the Center for Jewish History
is excited to revitalize its "Family History Today" series in 2018.
Beginning in January, this monthly series will feature lectures,
hands-on workshops, and more, each focused on different approach to
researching one's own family history. Please see below for more details
on the January program and stay tuned for future program announcements.

from Family History to Present Family - Finding Living Relatives You
Have Never Met!
Date: January 29, 6:30 PM
Place: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St. (Btw. 5th and 6th
Aves.), New York, NY 10011
Description: Are you interested in reconnecting with your long-lost
cousins? Moriah Amit, the Center for Jewish History's Senior Genealogy
Reference Librarian, will cover major resources and strategies for
locating the living descendants of deceased individuals on your family
tree.
Free and open to the public; reservation required at
http://www.smarttix.com/show.aspx?showcode=fam83E&ss=1

Moriah Amit
New York, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen upcoming genealogy program at the Center for Jewish History in New York #general

Moriah Amit
 

The Ackman & Ziff Genealogy Institute at the Center for Jewish History
is excited to revitalize its "Family History Today" series in 2018.
Beginning in January, this monthly series will feature lectures,
hands-on workshops, and more, each focused on different approach to
researching one's own family history. Please see below for more details
on the January program and stay tuned for future program announcements.

from Family History to Present Family - Finding Living Relatives You
Have Never Met!
Date: January 29, 6:30 PM
Place: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St. (Btw. 5th and 6th
Aves.), New York, NY 10011
Description: Are you interested in reconnecting with your long-lost
cousins? Moriah Amit, the Center for Jewish History's Senior Genealogy
Reference Librarian, will cover major resources and strategies for
locating the living descendants of deceased individuals on your family
tree.
Free and open to the public; reservation required at
http://www.smarttix.com/show.aspx?showcode=fam83E&ss=1

Moriah Amit
New York, NY


ViewMate translation request - Russian #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate a translation of the Russian text of the 1881 Tarnogrod,
Poland marriage record of Mendel PUTER and Sura SZTOKMAN, Akta 7. The
record is in 2 parts. I would like a translation of the genealogically
significant information, especially names of the groom's and bride's
parents, the groom's and bride's names, ages and places of birth and the
actual date of the marriage.

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Part 1: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM63725

Part 2: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM63726

Please respond using the online ViewMate form or directly to me at
sonny_putter@... .

Thank you very much.

Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Newcastle, Washington U.S.A.


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request - Russian #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate a translation of the Russian text of the 1881 Tarnogrod,
Poland marriage record of Mendel PUTER and Sura SZTOKMAN, Akta 7. The
record is in 2 parts. I would like a translation of the genealogically
significant information, especially names of the groom's and bride's
parents, the groom's and bride's names, ages and places of birth and the
actual date of the marriage.

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Part 1: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM63725

Part 2: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM63726

Please respond using the online ViewMate form or directly to me at
sonny_putter@... .

Thank you very much.

Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Newcastle, Washington U.S.A.


question about Krzepice #poland

Renee Steinig
 

Abe Morgenstern z"l, a survivor, died last week. In his 1988 interview
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum
(https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn512523), Abe referred
to his birth place -- a town that sounds like "Shrepitz," about 30 km
from Czestochowa.
Could the place be Krzepice? (To hear for yourself, the mention of
the town comes at about 00:20 on the video.)

Thanks for any light you can shed.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


JRI Poland #Poland question about Krzepice #poland

Renee Steinig
 

Abe Morgenstern z"l, a survivor, died last week. In his 1988 interview
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum
(https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn512523), Abe referred
to his birth place -- a town that sounds like "Shrepitz," about 30 km
from Czestochowa.
Could the place be Krzepice? (To hear for yourself, the mention of
the town comes at about 00:20 on the video.)

Thanks for any light you can shed.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City #galicia

Ronald D. Doctor
 

Jewish genealogy is coming to the Kansas City area.

We are forming a new Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City
(JGSGKC). If you are in the Kansas City area please join us at our first
meeting.

Monday evening, January 22, 2018
6:30 pm to 8:00 pm
Johnson County Central Resource Library (Logan Room)
9875 W. 87th Street, Overland Park, Kansas

At the meeting, we'll ask you to tell us about your Jewish genealogy
interests and about the kind of programs and presentations that would be
most useful to you. We'll also spend some time discussing some
administrative stuff, e.g. what day of the week and time of day is best for
our program meetings, developing a web and social media presence, etc.
If time permits, we'll have a short presentation about some basic Jewish
family history resources that are available for your research.

Our goals are to:

* Help you learn about the most current methods, resources,
technologies, and techniques to help you achieve your goals;
* Help you network with other researchers whose ancestors were >from
the same old country areas as yours;
* Keep you up-to-date with occasional e-mail messages and
announcements >from discussion lists on the Web, and with regular
meetings through the year.

For more information or if you have any questions please contact:

Ron Doctor <rddpdx@...>, or,
Richard Rosenstock <richard@...>

We're looking forward to meeting you.

Ron
--
Ron Doctor (rddpdx@...)
Overland Park, Kansas USA

Interim President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Kansas City (JGS GKC)
Co-Coordinator, Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP/Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
an activity of the Kremenets District Research Group (KDRG)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets
Board Member and Past Coordinator,
JewishGen Ukraine Special Interest Group (Ukraine SIG)

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD... all
from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets; KAZDOY (KOSODOY),
DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City #galicia

Ronald D. Doctor
 

Jewish genealogy is coming to the Kansas City area.

We are forming a new Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City
(JGSGKC). If you are in the Kansas City area please join us at our first
meeting.

Monday evening, January 22, 2018
6:30 pm to 8:00 pm
Johnson County Central Resource Library (Logan Room)
9875 W. 87th Street, Overland Park, Kansas

At the meeting, we'll ask you to tell us about your Jewish genealogy
interests and about the kind of programs and presentations that would be
most useful to you. We'll also spend some time discussing some
administrative stuff, e.g. what day of the week and time of day is best for
our program meetings, developing a web and social media presence, etc.
If time permits, we'll have a short presentation about some basic Jewish
family history resources that are available for your research.

Our goals are to:

* Help you learn about the most current methods, resources,
technologies, and techniques to help you achieve your goals;
* Help you network with other researchers whose ancestors were >from
the same old country areas as yours;
* Keep you up-to-date with occasional e-mail messages and
announcements >from discussion lists on the Web, and with regular
meetings through the year.

For more information or if you have any questions please contact:

Ron Doctor <rddpdx@...>, or,
Richard Rosenstock <richard@...>

We're looking forward to meeting you.

Ron
--
Ron Doctor (rddpdx@...)
Overland Park, Kansas USA

Interim President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Kansas City (JGS GKC)
Co-Coordinator, Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP/Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
an activity of the Kremenets District Research Group (KDRG)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets
Board Member and Past Coordinator,
JewishGen Ukraine Special Interest Group (Ukraine SIG)

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD... all
from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets; KAZDOY (KOSODOY),
DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa


SPERBER from Sieniawa #galicia

Joseph Lonstein
 

Dear SIG,

In the JRI-Poland records I recently found an unknown (to me) sister of
my great-grandfather. I'm now searching for her descendants. The
family is:

Marim SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK (b. 1874), daughter of Solomon
SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK >from Sieniawa and Reisl SCHIPPER >from
Kanczuga. Marim SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK married in Sieniawa to
Moses Wolf SPERBER (b. 1870), son of Lieb SPERBER and Lea LAUFER.
Moses Wolf SPERBER had a sister named Sara Gitla LAUFER
(not SPERBER) married to Munie VERSTANDIG in Sieniawa.

Children of Marim SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK and Moses Wolf
SPERBER:

1) Liebish (b. 1900) - deported >from Vienna and killed in Auschwitz. I
cannot find anything more about him online at Yad Vashem or other
databases (DOEW, GenTeam.at, Holocaust.cz)
2) Beile (b. 1902)
3) Samuel (b. 1904, d. 1905)
4) Mendel (b. 1906)
5) Lea (b. 1909)
6) Zelig (b. 1911)

I found other SPERBERs >from Sieniawa a generation older than these
children, and I don't know if there's a connection or not yet: On Ellis
Island database there's an Israel SPERBER (b. 1874) coming to NYC in
1893, Sam SPERBER (b. 1887) coming to NYC in 1905 to meet a Vinea
Raudsis (Raudnitz?), and Liebish SPERBER (b. 1872) coming to NYC in
1898 to meet sister E. BURSTEIN. I can trace these three men in the
U.S. Census records, but so far find no connection. Elsewhere I found
an Abraham SPERBER (b. 1892) >from Sieniawa who was killed in
Brussels in 1942.

I would love to hear >from anyone with a connection to this family - no
SPERBERs >from Sieniawa appear on JGFF - or suggestions for leads on
the SCHYRAK/SPERBER children named above.

Thank you,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI, USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia SPERBER from Sieniawa #galicia

Joseph Lonstein
 

Dear SIG,

In the JRI-Poland records I recently found an unknown (to me) sister of
my great-grandfather. I'm now searching for her descendants. The
family is:

Marim SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK (b. 1874), daughter of Solomon
SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK >from Sieniawa and Reisl SCHIPPER >from
Kanczuga. Marim SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK married in Sieniawa to
Moses Wolf SPERBER (b. 1870), son of Lieb SPERBER and Lea LAUFER.
Moses Wolf SPERBER had a sister named Sara Gitla LAUFER
(not SPERBER) married to Munie VERSTANDIG in Sieniawa.

Children of Marim SCHYRAK/SHERAK/SZYROK and Moses Wolf
SPERBER:

1) Liebish (b. 1900) - deported >from Vienna and killed in Auschwitz. I
cannot find anything more about him online at Yad Vashem or other
databases (DOEW, GenTeam.at, Holocaust.cz)
2) Beile (b. 1902)
3) Samuel (b. 1904, d. 1905)
4) Mendel (b. 1906)
5) Lea (b. 1909)
6) Zelig (b. 1911)

I found other SPERBERs >from Sieniawa a generation older than these
children, and I don't know if there's a connection or not yet: On Ellis
Island database there's an Israel SPERBER (b. 1874) coming to NYC in
1893, Sam SPERBER (b. 1887) coming to NYC in 1905 to meet a Vinea
Raudsis (Raudnitz?), and Liebish SPERBER (b. 1872) coming to NYC in
1898 to meet sister E. BURSTEIN. I can trace these three men in the
U.S. Census records, but so far find no connection. Elsewhere I found
an Abraham SPERBER (b. 1892) >from Sieniawa who was killed in
Brussels in 1942.

I would love to hear >from anyone with a connection to this family - no
SPERBERs >from Sieniawa appear on JGFF - or suggestions for leads on
the SCHYRAK/SPERBER children named above.

Thank you,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI, USA


International Institute for Jewish Genealogy - Ignition Grant for Jewish Genealogy Research #france

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul Jacobi Center is
pleased to announce a $2,500 "Ignition Grant" in the name of Harvey Krueger
z"l to encourage academic research in the field of Jewish Genealogy.

Applications should be submitted by 31 March, 2018. MA and doctoral theses,
proposed or ongoing, will be judged by their originality and their potential
to broaden the horizons of Jewish genealogical research in the arts and/or
the exact sciences.

Background Information and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on
the Institute's Website: www.iijg.org - under "Awards and Prizes". For more
information, contact info@... .

On the behalf of IIJG board,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


International Institute for Jewish Genealogy - Two Prizes #france

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul Jacobi Center
(IIJG) is pleased to announce two prizes:

- A $2,500 "Ignition Grant" in the name of Harvey Krueger z"l to encourage
academic research in the field of Jewish Genealogy.

- A $1,500 Prize in the name of Chava Agmon z"l for completed but
unpublished research in the field of Jewish Genealogy.

Applications should be submitted by 31 March, 2018. Studies will be judged
by their originality and their potential to broaden the horizons of Jewish
genealogical research in the arts and/or the exact sciences.

Background Information and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on
the Institute's website: http://www.iijg.org - under "Awards and Prizes".
For more information, contact info@....

On the behalf of IIJG board,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


French SIG #France International Institute for Jewish Genealogy - Ignition Grant for Jewish Genealogy Research #france

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul Jacobi Center is
pleased to announce a $2,500 "Ignition Grant" in the name of Harvey Krueger
z"l to encourage academic research in the field of Jewish Genealogy.

Applications should be submitted by 31 March, 2018. MA and doctoral theses,
proposed or ongoing, will be judged by their originality and their potential
to broaden the horizons of Jewish genealogical research in the arts and/or
the exact sciences.

Background Information and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on
the Institute's Website: www.iijg.org - under "Awards and Prizes". For more
information, contact info@... .

On the behalf of IIJG board,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


French SIG #France International Institute for Jewish Genealogy - Two Prizes #france

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul Jacobi Center
(IIJG) is pleased to announce two prizes:

- A $2,500 "Ignition Grant" in the name of Harvey Krueger z"l to encourage
academic research in the field of Jewish Genealogy.

- A $1,500 Prize in the name of Chava Agmon z"l for completed but
unpublished research in the field of Jewish Genealogy.

Applications should be submitted by 31 March, 2018. Studies will be judged
by their originality and their potential to broaden the horizons of Jewish
genealogical research in the arts and/or the exact sciences.

Background Information and "Instructions to Applicants" are to be found on
the Institute's website: http://www.iijg.org - under "Awards and Prizes".
For more information, contact info@....

On the behalf of IIJG board,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Re: Are the names the same? Shlioma and Shimel #general

Martin Davis (com)
 

Richard Friedman wrote: ....I came across two possible ancestors. I
would like to know if they are the same person. I could not find a match
using Jewishgen's name list. The first names are Shlioma and Shimel. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.

Well, theoretically they have origins as two different Hebrew male names:
Shlioma is a Yiddish variant of the Hebrew name Schlomo/Solomon and
Schimel is a diminutive of the Hebrew name Shimon/Simon. I write
"theoretically" because, as was often the custom, a Jewish person's
formal religious name and their secular name could be different and (to
add to the confusion) the secular name might change with fashion or
necessity. My approach on those cases is that until I can find supporting
documents, which conclusively link the two names together as one person,
I work with the material but treat it as potentially unreliable.

Martin Davis
London (UK)
Researching: DAWIDOWICZ, WOLKOWICZ, MAYEROW, MOSZKOWICZ (Dzialoszyn,
Poland), ABRAMOWICZ (Debina, Poland), JAKUBOWICZ, KUSTRZYCKI, SLAMOWICZ,
RADOZYNSKI (Widawa and Lask, Poland), DAWIDOWICZ, GOLDRING, ELIASZ,
SKORUPA-HUBERMAN, PASALSKA (Szczercow, Poland), LEIFERMAN/LAFERMAN
(Kamenets-Podolsk - Ukraine), GOLDSCHMIDT, SHISTER (Balti - Moldova).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Are the names the same? Shlioma and Shimel #general

Martin Davis (com)
 

Richard Friedman wrote: ....I came across two possible ancestors. I
would like to know if they are the same person. I could not find a match
using Jewishgen's name list. The first names are Shlioma and Shimel. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.

Well, theoretically they have origins as two different Hebrew male names:
Shlioma is a Yiddish variant of the Hebrew name Schlomo/Solomon and
Schimel is a diminutive of the Hebrew name Shimon/Simon. I write
"theoretically" because, as was often the custom, a Jewish person's
formal religious name and their secular name could be different and (to
add to the confusion) the secular name might change with fashion or
necessity. My approach on those cases is that until I can find supporting
documents, which conclusively link the two names together as one person,
I work with the material but treat it as potentially unreliable.

Martin Davis
London (UK)
Researching: DAWIDOWICZ, WOLKOWICZ, MAYEROW, MOSZKOWICZ (Dzialoszyn,
Poland), ABRAMOWICZ (Debina, Poland), JAKUBOWICZ, KUSTRZYCKI, SLAMOWICZ,
RADOZYNSKI (Widawa and Lask, Poland), DAWIDOWICZ, GOLDRING, ELIASZ,
SKORUPA-HUBERMAN, PASALSKA (Szczercow, Poland), LEIFERMAN/LAFERMAN
(Kamenets-Podolsk - Ukraine), GOLDSCHMIDT, SHISTER (Balti - Moldova).