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Vienna 1930-1932: circumcision and baptism #general

Odeda Zlotnick
 

I am submitting this question in both the JewishGen SIG list, and
the Austria-Czech one.

I have discovered through a family member that one of my
grandmother's 2nd cousins in Vienna married a Roman Catholic
woman in 1930, yet his sons, born in 1931 - 1932 are
circumcised. I find that surprising, since they are not Jewish
according to the Halakha.

Does anyone know if any boys at all were circumcised even when
not Jewish then? Why, in a city that was growing more and more
anti-Semitic, would a man have his sons circumcised? Would Any mohel
do it? Wouldn't that making the the boys Jewish? Would this be
registered anywhere?

The father's marriage was registered (took place? "Eltern
getraut am XX.XX. 1930 in Wien, Magistrat") in the Viennese
magistrat". Does that preclude the possibility that the wife had
converted to Judaism?

3 days after the Anschluss one of the boys (I don't yet know
about the other) was baptized. Would it be a normal procedure to
baptize ("nach roemisch-katolischem rictus getauft wuerde") a six
year old? Is it a coincidence that it took place so close to the
anschluss, or can that be seen as an attempt to protect the
children?

Thank you

Odeda Zlotnick

Interested in: ZIGLER >from Iassi, BLASS KILIKOWER Lemberg and
Vienna BOTTWIN-MELLER Vienna ZLOTNICK FEIGIN Belarus (Lapich)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vienna 1930-1932: circumcision and baptism #general

Odeda Zlotnick
 

I am submitting this question in both the JewishGen SIG list, and
the Austria-Czech one.

I have discovered through a family member that one of my
grandmother's 2nd cousins in Vienna married a Roman Catholic
woman in 1930, yet his sons, born in 1931 - 1932 are
circumcised. I find that surprising, since they are not Jewish
according to the Halakha.

Does anyone know if any boys at all were circumcised even when
not Jewish then? Why, in a city that was growing more and more
anti-Semitic, would a man have his sons circumcised? Would Any mohel
do it? Wouldn't that making the the boys Jewish? Would this be
registered anywhere?

The father's marriage was registered (took place? "Eltern
getraut am XX.XX. 1930 in Wien, Magistrat") in the Viennese
magistrat". Does that preclude the possibility that the wife had
converted to Judaism?

3 days after the Anschluss one of the boys (I don't yet know
about the other) was baptized. Would it be a normal procedure to
baptize ("nach roemisch-katolischem rictus getauft wuerde") a six
year old? Is it a coincidence that it took place so close to the
anschluss, or can that be seen as an attempt to protect the
children?

Thank you

Odeda Zlotnick

Interested in: ZIGLER >from Iassi, BLASS KILIKOWER Lemberg and
Vienna BOTTWIN-MELLER Vienna ZLOTNICK FEIGIN Belarus (Lapich)


Seeking Stories from Jewish Refugees Who Came through Angel Island (US) #general

janicemsj@...
 

The Angel Island Immigration Station Foundation (AIISF) promotes a
greater understanding of Pacific Coast immigration and its role in
shaping America's past, present, and future. Currently, AIISF is
asking for help in locating Jewish refugees who came to San Francisco
in the late 1930's and 1940, and their descendants.

AIISF hosts a database (http://aiisf.org/history/ai-jewish-refugees)
with information about 132 Jewish immigrants who were processed at
Angel Island Immigration Station. The database was compiled by
volunteers who reviewed files at the National Archives branch in San
Bruno, California. Please contact AIISF at the e-mail address or
phone number listed on the Web site if you recognize any of the
individuals listed in the database. AIISF would like to interview the
individuals or their descendants in order to get their full stories.

Janice M. Sellers
http://ancestraldiscoveries.blogspot.com/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Stories from Jewish Refugees Who Came through Angel Island (US) #general

janicemsj@...
 

The Angel Island Immigration Station Foundation (AIISF) promotes a
greater understanding of Pacific Coast immigration and its role in
shaping America's past, present, and future. Currently, AIISF is
asking for help in locating Jewish refugees who came to San Francisco
in the late 1930's and 1940, and their descendants.

AIISF hosts a database (http://aiisf.org/history/ai-jewish-refugees)
with information about 132 Jewish immigrants who were processed at
Angel Island Immigration Station. The database was compiled by
volunteers who reviewed files at the National Archives branch in San
Bruno, California. Please contact AIISF at the e-mail address or
phone number listed on the Web site if you recognize any of the
individuals listed in the database. AIISF would like to interview the
individuals or their descendants in order to get their full stories.

Janice M. Sellers
http://ancestraldiscoveries.blogspot.com/


updated Zawady Surnames index #general

Avigdor Ben-Dov <avigdorbd@...>
 

Genners might want to explore the Zawada Poland shtetl page for
updates of residents. This is a current list of surnames based on
continuing research into the period before 1939:

ARKIER, BABINSKI, BERKOWICZ, BRZOZA, CHANES, CHOROSZCZ
CHOROSZUCHA, CUKROWICZ, CWEJMAN, CYMES, CYWAN, DWORKOWICZ
DYNOWICZ, GASIOR, GOLDSZTAJN, GORA, KOWALSKI, KURCGOLD
LATA, LEW, MAZUREK, MONACH, NURZEC, PIENIAZEK, ROZENFELD
RUTKIEWICZ, RUDKOWICZ, RUZYCKI, SLIWKA, SLUCKI, TEYTEL
WITCZYNSKI, WLODARSKI, ZDROJEWSKI, ZELKOWICZ

Avigdor Ben-Dov (RUTKIEWICZ)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen updated Zawady Surnames index #general

Avigdor Ben-Dov <avigdorbd@...>
 

Genners might want to explore the Zawada Poland shtetl page for
updates of residents. This is a current list of surnames based on
continuing research into the period before 1939:

ARKIER, BABINSKI, BERKOWICZ, BRZOZA, CHANES, CHOROSZCZ
CHOROSZUCHA, CUKROWICZ, CWEJMAN, CYMES, CYWAN, DWORKOWICZ
DYNOWICZ, GASIOR, GOLDSZTAJN, GORA, KOWALSKI, KURCGOLD
LATA, LEW, MAZUREK, MONACH, NURZEC, PIENIAZEK, ROZENFELD
RUTKIEWICZ, RUDKOWICZ, RUZYCKI, SLIWKA, SLUCKI, TEYTEL
WITCZYNSKI, WLODARSKI, ZDROJEWSKI, ZELKOWICZ

Avigdor Ben-Dov (RUTKIEWICZ)


Perevelka (sp?) #general

Rita Chernoff <ritachernoff@...>
 

I am trying to locate a village called Perevelka. The spelling is how it
sounded not what it really is/was. All I know is that the village is
supposed to be in the Ternopol Oblast and the Pidhaitskyi Raion. The
administrative centre was Pidhaitsi. I realize that this is a mixture of
languages but this is all I have.

I did locate a village called Peredelka but this one is in Belaruse and
is too far East of where this other one is supposed to be.

Can anyone help? Thank you so much

Rita Chernoff
Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Perevelka (sp?) #general

Rita Chernoff <ritachernoff@...>
 

I am trying to locate a village called Perevelka. The spelling is how it
sounded not what it really is/was. All I know is that the village is
supposed to be in the Ternopol Oblast and the Pidhaitskyi Raion. The
administrative centre was Pidhaitsi. I realize that this is a mixture of
languages but this is all I have.

I did locate a village called Peredelka but this one is in Belaruse and
is too far East of where this other one is supposed to be.

Can anyone help? Thank you so much

Rita Chernoff
Canada


DC 2011 Conference Program now on line #germany

jplowens@...
 

The preliminary program for the DC 2011 Conference
is now available at the Conference website:


http://dc2011.org/index.php/conference-program


John Lowens, Suburban New York City


Looking for researcher Benjamin #general

Neil Feder <paisaman37@...>
 

I am looking for the following researcher, who may have information about my
grandmother, Fannie Benjamin, and her family, >from Gloversville NY. Any
information about who has taken over this woman's research would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you, Neil Feder

Rheta Benjamin Tempel (#2974)
**
La Jolla, CA
92037
United States

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only,please


German SIG #Germany DC 2011 Conference Program now on line #germany

jplowens@...
 

The preliminary program for the DC 2011 Conference
is now available at the Conference website:


http://dc2011.org/index.php/conference-program


John Lowens, Suburban New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for researcher Benjamin #general

Neil Feder <paisaman37@...>
 

I am looking for the following researcher, who may have information about my
grandmother, Fannie Benjamin, and her family, >from Gloversville NY. Any
information about who has taken over this woman's research would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you, Neil Feder

Rheta Benjamin Tempel (#2974)
**
La Jolla, CA
92037
United States

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only,please


Three Rachels #galicia

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

A few days ago I asked whether a man whose stepmother had same
first name as his late mother would be reluctant to name his
daughter in memory of his mother while the stepmother was still alive.
None among those who responded could see any religious or
customary obstacles to doing that.

Thank you for enlightening me.

Jurek Hirschberg


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Three Rachels #galicia

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

A few days ago I asked whether a man whose stepmother had same
first name as his late mother would be reluctant to name his
daughter in memory of his mother while the stepmother was still alive.
None among those who responded could see any religious or
customary obstacles to doing that.

Thank you for enlightening me.

Jurek Hirschberg


1930 Slovakian Census #hungary

Beth Long
 

I was in Bratislava today, and can report that there is quite a detailed 1930 census that is available there for all of Slovakia.

As a practical matter, it is not easy to research, as one is only allowed three "boxes" per day (and Rimavska Sobotaa, for example, is two boxes). And records have to be ordered three days in advance.

But if a group of people wanted to research a particular town or village, it would be relatively easy to copy the records of all Jewish families in that village.

In other words, if you want to do one place in detail it's possible, but if you have a single family who has lived in multiple places, then it would not be very efficient.

Beth Long
Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1930 Slovakian Census #hungary

Beth Long
 

I was in Bratislava today, and can report that there is quite a detailed 1930 census that is available there for all of Slovakia.

As a practical matter, it is not easy to research, as one is only allowed three "boxes" per day (and Rimavska Sobotaa, for example, is two boxes). And records have to be ordered three days in advance.

But if a group of people wanted to research a particular town or village, it would be relatively easy to copy the records of all Jewish families in that village.

In other words, if you want to do one place in detail it's possible, but if you have a single family who has lived in multiple places, then it would not be very efficient.

Beth Long
Budapest


Searching: ASHENOFSKY/TROTSKY from Vilna/Smorgen #belarus

bob@...
 

Researching ASHENOFSKY (Yaacov and Ethel)
TROTSKY (Isaac Trotsky and his wife, Hannah Lieberman)

Locale: Area of VILNA; we know that at some point they lived in SMORGON,
Belarus.

I am looking for leads on my grandmother. Rose Ashenofsky, born about 1882,
was the daughter of Yaacov and Ethel Ashenofsky. She was one of six
children. (The others were David, Frieda, Gussie, Louis, and Masha.) She
married my grandfather, Benjamin Trotsky. I expect her family lived around
Vilna. I know before marriage, Ben lived in Smorgon (although when I asked
him where he was >from he would say "Vilna, around Vilna."


Robert Keimowitz
(JewishGen researcher code: 28327
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching: ASHENOFSKY/TROTSKY from Vilna/Smorgen #belarus

bob@...
 

Researching ASHENOFSKY (Yaacov and Ethel)
TROTSKY (Isaac Trotsky and his wife, Hannah Lieberman)

Locale: Area of VILNA; we know that at some point they lived in SMORGON,
Belarus.

I am looking for leads on my grandmother. Rose Ashenofsky, born about 1882,
was the daughter of Yaacov and Ethel Ashenofsky. She was one of six
children. (The others were David, Frieda, Gussie, Louis, and Masha.) She
married my grandfather, Benjamin Trotsky. I expect her family lived around
Vilna. I know before marriage, Ben lived in Smorgon (although when I asked
him where he was >from he would say "Vilna, around Vilna."


Robert Keimowitz
(JewishGen researcher code: 28327
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


H-SIG at IAJGS 2011 #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

JewishGen's Hungarian SIG will be actively participating in the 31st
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Washington, DC, and
we're hoping to see many H-SIGrs. The conference website is live at
http://www.dc2011.org/ and includes some information about our SIG events.
Here are additional details:

Our schedule so far includes:

SUNDAY AUGUST 14
2 - 5 PM - SIG / BOF FAIR Bring your books and maps to show other
Hungarian researchers as we showcase our activities and introduce
newcomers to the Hungarian SIG and our on-line resources.

TUESDAY AUGUST 16
12:30 - 2 PM Hungarian SIG Luncheon w. guest speaker Ferenc Katona,
Hungarian Archivist, US Holocaust Memorial Museum. Mr. Katona will
describe resources available at USHMM for researching Hungary,
Slovakia, Romania, and other areas that were part of Hungary before
and during WWII. He will give an overview of the collection
highlighting significant resources, such as the records of the 8th
Gendarmerie District, Kassa, Hungary, 1944-1945, and provide
information about recent acquisitions. The Library also has other
items for genealogical research such as a Buda Neolog birth index for
years 1820-52, 1868. Because many unpublished materials have to be
ordered ahead of time, consult the on-line catalog at http://catalog.ushmm.org/vwebv/searchBasic
before you arrive in Washington and come to the Hungarian SIG luncheon with your questions.

2:15 - 3:30 PM Hungarian SIG Annual Meeting. Join us for an update
on current and pending projects including our new collaboration with
FamilySearch to index additional vital records. The annual meeting,
which will immediately follow the Hungarian SIG luncheon, is an
opportunity to share your ideas for new projects and to find out what
you can do to contribute to JewishGen's outstanding Hungary Database,
which is anticipated to grow to well over 1 million records before
conference time.

WEDNESDAY AUGUST 17
9:30 - 11:30 AM Computer Lab - Hungarian Jewish Research on the
Internet (Fee Based). Learn how to surf the All Hungary database on
JewishGen and other online portals for Hungarian researchers online
gazetteers, directories, maps and more. You will also find out which
sites you can use to identify pre-Trianon Hungarian towns that are now
in Slovakia, Ukraine or Romania.

Register for the full conference on line at http://www.dc2011.org/index.php/register
by April 30 for $275 or $175 for a companion. On May 1 and until
July 31 registration fees increase to $310 and $210 respectively.

If you have proposed a session that will be of interest to H-SIGrs,
please let me know so we can compile a complete list of sessions that
will be of interest to anyone researching Hungarian Jewish families.

As always, I'm looking forward to seeing many old friends and getting
better acquainted with those of you whom I have only met in cyberspace.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator
vkahn@kmort.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary H-SIG at IAJGS 2011 #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

JewishGen's Hungarian SIG will be actively participating in the 31st
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Washington, DC, and
we're hoping to see many H-SIGrs. The conference website is live at
http://www.dc2011.org/ and includes some information about our SIG events.
Here are additional details:

Our schedule so far includes:

SUNDAY AUGUST 14
2 - 5 PM - SIG / BOF FAIR Bring your books and maps to show other
Hungarian researchers as we showcase our activities and introduce
newcomers to the Hungarian SIG and our on-line resources.

TUESDAY AUGUST 16
12:30 - 2 PM Hungarian SIG Luncheon w. guest speaker Ferenc Katona,
Hungarian Archivist, US Holocaust Memorial Museum. Mr. Katona will
describe resources available at USHMM for researching Hungary,
Slovakia, Romania, and other areas that were part of Hungary before
and during WWII. He will give an overview of the collection
highlighting significant resources, such as the records of the 8th
Gendarmerie District, Kassa, Hungary, 1944-1945, and provide
information about recent acquisitions. The Library also has other
items for genealogical research such as a Buda Neolog birth index for
years 1820-52, 1868. Because many unpublished materials have to be
ordered ahead of time, consult the on-line catalog at http://catalog.ushmm.org/vwebv/searchBasic
before you arrive in Washington and come to the Hungarian SIG luncheon with your questions.

2:15 - 3:30 PM Hungarian SIG Annual Meeting. Join us for an update
on current and pending projects including our new collaboration with
FamilySearch to index additional vital records. The annual meeting,
which will immediately follow the Hungarian SIG luncheon, is an
opportunity to share your ideas for new projects and to find out what
you can do to contribute to JewishGen's outstanding Hungary Database,
which is anticipated to grow to well over 1 million records before
conference time.

WEDNESDAY AUGUST 17
9:30 - 11:30 AM Computer Lab - Hungarian Jewish Research on the
Internet (Fee Based). Learn how to surf the All Hungary database on
JewishGen and other online portals for Hungarian researchers online
gazetteers, directories, maps and more. You will also find out which
sites you can use to identify pre-Trianon Hungarian towns that are now
in Slovakia, Ukraine or Romania.

Register for the full conference on line at http://www.dc2011.org/index.php/register
by April 30 for $275 or $175 for a companion. On May 1 and until
July 31 registration fees increase to $310 and $210 respectively.

If you have proposed a session that will be of interest to H-SIGrs,
please let me know so we can compile a complete list of sessions that
will be of interest to anyone researching Hungarian Jewish families.

As always, I'm looking forward to seeing many old friends and getting
better acquainted with those of you whom I have only met in cyberspace.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator
vkahn@kmort.com

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