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question on 1910 census
#general
David Laskin
I have found my ancestors on the 1910 census -- they lived in a building at 195
Madison Street on New York's Lower East Side. The building had 16 units, numbered on the census >from 277 to 292. My family was #282. My question is: did census takers start at the bottom of apartment buildings and work their way up, numbering units consecutively as they ascended? If so, that would have put my family on the second floor of that tenement house. If anyone has wisdom on this subject, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks.David Laskin, Seattle, WA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen question on 1910 census
#general
David Laskin
I have found my ancestors on the 1910 census -- they lived in a building at 195
Madison Street on New York's Lower East Side. The building had 16 units, numbered on the census >from 277 to 292. My family was #282. My question is: did census takers start at the bottom of apartment buildings and work their way up, numbering units consecutively as they ascended? If so, that would have put my family on the second floor of that tenement house. If anyone has wisdom on this subject, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks.David Laskin, Seattle, WA
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Re: Uniforms in Photographs
#general
Ava Cohn <avatom@...>
On April 21, Jules Levin wrote
... interpreting uniforms is not the same as recognizing individual faces in an old photo; there are resources out there available to individual members of Jewishgen. Jules is correct. Interpreting uniforms is a specialized area of photo analysis and not found in "fashion" or photo dating books. And there are resources available to Jewishgenners. I personally have acquired almost every relevant book on identifying European and American military uniforms >from the 1860s to WWII and those that I don't have, I know where to find. Old newspapers and magazines >from the war years are also helpful. Best to all for a Happy rest of Passover. Ava Cohn Long Grove, IL Searching: SHENKMAN, HANDELMAN, STERN, COHN, FISCHMAN, ABROMOVICI >from Belarus, Ukraine and Romania
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Uniforms in Photographs
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Ava Cohn <avatom@...>
On April 21, Jules Levin wrote
... interpreting uniforms is not the same as recognizing individual faces in an old photo; there are resources out there available to individual members of Jewishgen. Jules is correct. Interpreting uniforms is a specialized area of photo analysis and not found in "fashion" or photo dating books. And there are resources available to Jewishgenners. I personally have acquired almost every relevant book on identifying European and American military uniforms >from the 1860s to WWII and those that I don't have, I know where to find. Old newspapers and magazines >from the war years are also helpful. Best to all for a Happy rest of Passover. Ava Cohn Long Grove, IL Searching: SHENKMAN, HANDELMAN, STERN, COHN, FISCHMAN, ABROMOVICI >from Belarus, Ukraine and Romania
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Question on Transport from Ellis Island to New York's Lower East Side
#general
David Laskin
My ancestors arrived on Ellis Island on June 1, 1909 and moved to a tenement house on
Madison Street (NOT Madison Avenue) on the Lower East Side, near Henry and Allen streets. I'm wondering how they were likely to have gotten >from Ellis Island to their apartment building. Presumably, a ferry took them >from Ellis Island to what is now Battery Park -- but then what? Did they travel by cab (horse drawn or automobile?); trolley? The latter seems unlikely given how much stuff they must have been schlepping with them. Thanks for any help. David Laskin, Seattle, WA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question on Transport from Ellis Island to New York's Lower East Side
#general
David Laskin
My ancestors arrived on Ellis Island on June 1, 1909 and moved to a tenement house on
Madison Street (NOT Madison Avenue) on the Lower East Side, near Henry and Allen streets. I'm wondering how they were likely to have gotten >from Ellis Island to their apartment building. Presumably, a ferry took them >from Ellis Island to what is now Battery Park -- but then what? Did they travel by cab (horse drawn or automobile?); trolley? The latter seems unlikely given how much stuff they must have been schlepping with them. Thanks for any help. David Laskin, Seattle, WA
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Re: Publishing a tree online
#general
Micah Salb
Avigdor:
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I had a similar reaction >from one branch of my extended family. In fact, I have not heard a peep >from my first cousin in several years following this issue arising. My view is that the fears are irrational. To illustrate, consider the fact that everything that I had about that branch of the family I got by simply doing internet searches! What I have is already out there on the web, largely posted by the family themselves. I use TNG, which is an inexpensive family tree program that can easily be configured to disallow any access to family tree data without logging in. I have no idea if it is hackable, but anyone who is that invested in data about my family probably could get through anything, if you know what I mean. Micah Wahsington, DC STERN, SALB, RUSS, BERMAN, KLEIN, FRIESLER/FRISLER, LUBRANETSKY
On 4/22/2011 10:15 AM, Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote:
I have assembled data on over 1000 family members and spouses with many photos
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Publishing a tree online
#general
Micah Salb
Avigdor:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I had a similar reaction >from one branch of my extended family. In fact, I have not heard a peep >from my first cousin in several years following this issue arising. My view is that the fears are irrational. To illustrate, consider the fact that everything that I had about that branch of the family I got by simply doing internet searches! What I have is already out there on the web, largely posted by the family themselves. I use TNG, which is an inexpensive family tree program that can easily be configured to disallow any access to family tree data without logging in. I have no idea if it is hackable, but anyone who is that invested in data about my family probably could get through anything, if you know what I mean. Micah Wahsington, DC STERN, SALB, RUSS, BERMAN, KLEIN, FRIESLER/FRISLER, LUBRANETSKY
On 4/22/2011 10:15 AM, Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote:
I have assembled data on over 1000 family members and spouses with many photos
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1910 Kaunas Draftee Lists now awailable !
#lithuania
ralph <salinger@...>
Dear Litvak Researchers,
I am delighted to announce that we have added the 1910 Kaunas Draftee List to our site http://kaunas.shutterfly.com If you are not a member of our group already you can get a "taste" of what surnames are available at the above listed site. So far we have Draftee Lists for 1875, 1876 1906, 1910 and 1916. There is a great deal of family information in these files , surname and given name of the draftee or potential draftee – date of birth and then the entire household ! with dates of births in many cases. If you are searching in Kaunas, membership of our group is a MUST ! I look forward to hearing >from you, Ralph Salinger salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il Coordinator
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania 1910 Kaunas Draftee Lists now awailable !
#lithuania
ralph <salinger@...>
Dear Litvak Researchers,
I am delighted to announce that we have added the 1910 Kaunas Draftee List to our site http://kaunas.shutterfly.com If you are not a member of our group already you can get a "taste" of what surnames are available at the above listed site. So far we have Draftee Lists for 1875, 1876 1906, 1910 and 1916. There is a great deal of family information in these files , surname and given name of the draftee or potential draftee – date of birth and then the entire household ! with dates of births in many cases. If you are searching in Kaunas, membership of our group is a MUST ! I look forward to hearing >from you, Ralph Salinger salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il Coordinator
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Hishstick - a small villiage outside of Radom, near Opatow
#poland
ww <lipi@...>
This might be a long shot, but maybe Przytyk? You did not mention in
what language the document was written, but I suppose it is possible to mix "H" with "P" in handwritten Latin alphabet, and even more in Hebrew. Przytyk is quite close to Radom. Witold Wrzosinski Warsaw
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JRI Poland #Poland Hishstick - a small villiage outside of Radom, near Opatow
#poland
ww <lipi@...>
This might be a long shot, but maybe Przytyk? You did not mention in
what language the document was written, but I suppose it is possible to mix "H" with "P" in handwritten Latin alphabet, and even more in Hebrew. Przytyk is quite close to Radom. Witold Wrzosinski Warsaw
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A further question Sejwa ROZENBERG and meaning of her name, Markuszow, 1880
#poland
Dan <doren@...>
Dear Genealogy Hunters on the Poland JRI listserv:
Thank you for your quick help regarding Sejwa ROZENBERG=B9s given name. I am particularly grateful to Yehudah ben Shlomo, Tina Levine, Bonnie Raskin, and Max Ehr for setting me straight and to a few others for their thoughtful replies as well. When I used the JG given names database, under Search Type I should have used the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex button instead of the default Global (Plain) Text button. Had I done so that would have led me right to Basheva or Sheve or one of the other transliterations for Bathsheba from Samuel II, 11:3.Now that I know the translation, this knowledge and a Jewish internet calendar leads me to a further question. The town records of Markuszow, Poland indicate Sejwa was born on 1 May 1876 According to <www.hebcal.com/converter> this corresponds to the 7th of the Hebrew month of Iyyar, 5636. This leads me to speculate that perhaps one reason for her name being Batsheva or Sejwa or Szejwa or Sheva was that she was born on the 7th day (Sheva being seven in Hebrew) of the month Do you any of you know of other precedents for such a naming, or is this more likely to be a mere coincidence? Dan Ahiassaf OREN Woodbridge, Connecticut, USA Searching: ROZENBERG, Lublin and Markuszow, Poland COHEN, Markuszow, Poland GEVERTZ (GEWERC), Lublin or Markuszow, Poland
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JRI Poland #Poland A further question Sejwa ROZENBERG and meaning of her name, Markuszow, 1880
#poland
Dan <doren@...>
Dear Genealogy Hunters on the Poland JRI listserv:
Thank you for your quick help regarding Sejwa ROZENBERG=B9s given name. I am particularly grateful to Yehudah ben Shlomo, Tina Levine, Bonnie Raskin, and Max Ehr for setting me straight and to a few others for their thoughtful replies as well. When I used the JG given names database, under Search Type I should have used the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex button instead of the default Global (Plain) Text button. Had I done so that would have led me right to Basheva or Sheve or one of the other transliterations for Bathsheba from Samuel II, 11:3.Now that I know the translation, this knowledge and a Jewish internet calendar leads me to a further question. The town records of Markuszow, Poland indicate Sejwa was born on 1 May 1876 According to <www.hebcal.com/converter> this corresponds to the 7th of the Hebrew month of Iyyar, 5636. This leads me to speculate that perhaps one reason for her name being Batsheva or Sejwa or Szejwa or Sheva was that she was born on the 7th day (Sheva being seven in Hebrew) of the month Do you any of you know of other precedents for such a naming, or is this more likely to be a mere coincidence? Dan Ahiassaf OREN Woodbridge, Connecticut, USA Searching: ROZENBERG, Lublin and Markuszow, Poland COHEN, Markuszow, Poland GEVERTZ (GEWERC), Lublin or Markuszow, Poland
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Searching: SEJWA ROZENBERG and meaning of her name, Markuszow, 1880
#poland
ww <lipi@...>
In my experience it would be an equivalent to Sheva, short version of
Bat-Sheva. It is also often written by Polish clerks as Siejwa, Siejwe, Siewa. Happy Pesach! Witold Wrzosinski, Warsaw
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JRI Poland #Poland Searching: SEJWA ROZENBERG and meaning of her name, Markuszow, 1880
#poland
ww <lipi@...>
In my experience it would be an equivalent to Sheva, short version of
Bat-Sheva. It is also often written by Polish clerks as Siejwa, Siejwe, Siewa. Happy Pesach! Witold Wrzosinski, Warsaw
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Re: gersig digest: April 19, 2011 - Subject: Feila GUMPERTZ b. abt 1745 and died in Bonn - mother of Julia HEYMANN
#germany
Georg Stockschlaeder <georg@...>
Hello
for changing family names Marx/Heymann/Gunzenhausen please look at Digitale Edition - Juedischer Friedhof Bonn-Schwarzrheindorf (1623-1956 / 416 Eintraege): Inv.-Nr. 5367 URL: http://www.steinheim-institut.de/cgi-bin/epidat?function=Ins&sel=bns&inv=5367 (2010-06-20) Heymann Marx [09.09.1770] and Wilhelm Levison, Die Siegburger Familie Levison und verwandte Familien, Ludwig Roehrscheid Verlag Bonn, 1952, S. 125f.: Citation Die Mutter Jettas, Lea Neuburg, entstammte einer angesehenen Bonner Judenfamilie. In dem genannten Familienbuch heisst ihr Vater 'Marx in Bonn'; jedoch bei ihrer in Mannheim verheirateten Tochter Rosa, der Ehefrau von Jacob Oppenheimer, ist ihre Mutter als 'Lea geb. Gunzenhausen von Bonn' eingetragen. Der Widerspruch ist nur scheinbar: die Bonner Familie Marx, die diesen Namen schon 1764 und 1784 fuehrte (Georg Hoffmann, Die Juden im Erzstift Koeln im 18. Jahrhundert, Muenchener Dissertation 1928, S. 28; Stadtarchiv Bonn, Kurfuerstliche Abteilung 15/1) und ihn 1808 als Familiennamen beibehielt (eb. Register der Judennamen-Annahme 1808/09; Bevoelkerungsliste von 1816, und die Sterbeurkunden des Standesamts), wurde auch Gunzenhausen (Gunzihausen, Gunzhausen) genannt, vermutlich nach der (vorauszusetzenden) Herkunft des Ahnherrn Marx aus Gunzenhausen an der Altmuehl in Mittelfranken. ... To Mordechai Aharon Gunzenhausen/Marx you will find 440 descendants at http://ahnenreich.de/retrospect/juden/ Georg Stockschlaeder, Gebhardshain Germany georg@stockschlaeder.de
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German SIG #Germany Re: gersig digest: April 19, 2011 - Subject: Feila GUMPERTZ b. abt 1745 and died in Bonn - mother of Julia HEYMANN
#germany
Georg Stockschlaeder <georg@...>
Hello
for changing family names Marx/Heymann/Gunzenhausen please look at Digitale Edition - Juedischer Friedhof Bonn-Schwarzrheindorf (1623-1956 / 416 Eintraege): Inv.-Nr. 5367 URL: http://www.steinheim-institut.de/cgi-bin/epidat?function=Ins&sel=bns&inv=5367 (2010-06-20) Heymann Marx [09.09.1770] and Wilhelm Levison, Die Siegburger Familie Levison und verwandte Familien, Ludwig Roehrscheid Verlag Bonn, 1952, S. 125f.: Citation Die Mutter Jettas, Lea Neuburg, entstammte einer angesehenen Bonner Judenfamilie. In dem genannten Familienbuch heisst ihr Vater 'Marx in Bonn'; jedoch bei ihrer in Mannheim verheirateten Tochter Rosa, der Ehefrau von Jacob Oppenheimer, ist ihre Mutter als 'Lea geb. Gunzenhausen von Bonn' eingetragen. Der Widerspruch ist nur scheinbar: die Bonner Familie Marx, die diesen Namen schon 1764 und 1784 fuehrte (Georg Hoffmann, Die Juden im Erzstift Koeln im 18. Jahrhundert, Muenchener Dissertation 1928, S. 28; Stadtarchiv Bonn, Kurfuerstliche Abteilung 15/1) und ihn 1808 als Familiennamen beibehielt (eb. Register der Judennamen-Annahme 1808/09; Bevoelkerungsliste von 1816, und die Sterbeurkunden des Standesamts), wurde auch Gunzenhausen (Gunzihausen, Gunzhausen) genannt, vermutlich nach der (vorauszusetzenden) Herkunft des Ahnherrn Marx aus Gunzenhausen an der Altmuehl in Mittelfranken. ... To Mordechai Aharon Gunzenhausen/Marx you will find 440 descendants at http://ahnenreich.de/retrospect/juden/ Georg Stockschlaeder, Gebhardshain Germany georg@stockschlaeder.de
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Re: Viewmate translation of letter from Polish Archives
#general
Asher <aarbit@...>
It is easy to translate printed text like this - regardless of the language - using
Google translate. You just need to be a little careful with the special Polish characters. Asher Arbit Jerusalem
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Viewmate translation of letter from Polish Archives
#general
Asher <aarbit@...>
It is easy to translate printed text like this - regardless of the language - using
Google translate. You just need to be a little careful with the special Polish characters. Asher Arbit Jerusalem
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