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Death cert for Abraham MANDELKERN/MENTELKERN- Phila., Pa in 1909 #general

Steve Pickoltz
 

A cousin of mine died in Phila., Pa on July 11, 1909 and is buried in
the Mt Carmel Cemetery in Phila. I have a picture of this grave.

The City of Phila. Archives Office has *no* record of his death. After
posting this information a number of people found his death record
listed on the LDS's Family History Centers film. Their records show
his last name spelled MENTELKERN. I again contacted the Archives
Office and asked them to use this name along with the original death
date. ***Guess What*** --- he again doesn't exist.

My purpose in writing is to see if someone out there may have the FHL
Film Number 1405089, and can photo copy the death cert or can go to a
FHC and and again get me a copy of this cert. I will gladly pay for
the photo copy.

Here is the info---
Abraham MANDELKERN or MENTELKERN
Born: 1897 in Phila., Pa
Died: July 11, 1909 in Phila., Pa
Age: 12
Occupation: clerk
Parents: Max Mandelkern, born in Austria
Olga Pichboltz, born in Austria
FHL Film Number- 1405089

Thank you.
Steve Pickholtz
New Jersey
searching--- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings) and WINITSKY (all spellings)


Re: Hebrew name Yehoshua #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 2/18/2012 8:20:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
feigele1@yahoo.com writes:
On my great grandmothers headstone her father is listed as Yehoshua. On
her death certificate my great grandfather listed her fathers name as
Simon.

In this instance it is clearly an example of the American family wanted to
give "American" names to the family in the old country. Its not uncommon
to see this on death certificates in the USA and they also do it to the
surnames and especially maiden names of mothers get Americanized. My own
great grandmother's maiden name was some like Gruber and it appears on the
death certificate as Green.

But as for the Yehoshua to Simon I have to agree with David Shapiro who
said "Probably he was called Shia (short for Yehoshua), and then Simon would
seem as a logical choice of English name." My great grandfather on my
father side was Yehoshua and yes he was always called Shia and in America he
became Samuel.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Death cert for Abraham MANDELKERN/MENTELKERN- Phila., Pa in 1909 #general

Steve Pickoltz
 

A cousin of mine died in Phila., Pa on July 11, 1909 and is buried in
the Mt Carmel Cemetery in Phila. I have a picture of this grave.

The City of Phila. Archives Office has *no* record of his death. After
posting this information a number of people found his death record
listed on the LDS's Family History Centers film. Their records show
his last name spelled MENTELKERN. I again contacted the Archives
Office and asked them to use this name along with the original death
date. ***Guess What*** --- he again doesn't exist.

My purpose in writing is to see if someone out there may have the FHL
Film Number 1405089, and can photo copy the death cert or can go to a
FHC and and again get me a copy of this cert. I will gladly pay for
the photo copy.

Here is the info---
Abraham MANDELKERN or MENTELKERN
Born: 1897 in Phila., Pa
Died: July 11, 1909 in Phila., Pa
Age: 12
Occupation: clerk
Parents: Max Mandelkern, born in Austria
Olga Pichboltz, born in Austria
FHL Film Number- 1405089

Thank you.
Steve Pickholtz
New Jersey
searching--- PICKHOLTZ (all spellings) and WINITSKY (all spellings)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew name Yehoshua #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 2/18/2012 8:20:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
feigele1@yahoo.com writes:
On my great grandmothers headstone her father is listed as Yehoshua. On
her death certificate my great grandfather listed her fathers name as
Simon.

In this instance it is clearly an example of the American family wanted to
give "American" names to the family in the old country. Its not uncommon
to see this on death certificates in the USA and they also do it to the
surnames and especially maiden names of mothers get Americanized. My own
great grandmother's maiden name was some like Gruber and it appears on the
death certificate as Green.

But as for the Yehoshua to Simon I have to agree with David Shapiro who
said "Probably he was called Shia (short for Yehoshua), and then Simon would
seem as a logical choice of English name." My great grandfather on my
father side was Yehoshua and yes he was always called Shia and in America he
became Samuel.

Allan Jordan


Death cert / Abraham MANDELKERN/MENTELKERN #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Steve,

Per A's indexing, the Death Certificate lists father as Mendelkein
(Undertaker's handwriting was careless, to say the least.

Using the FHL records:
I found the child as Mentelkern, but the doctor's handwriting is
not much better. So it's very possible the certificate is filed as
Mentelhern or even Mentellsern! Or even carelessly as Mentle......

Just goes to show why it's always best to get a copies rather than
rely on indices.

Sending a copy of the death certificate separately.

Good luck,
Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
~~~

A cousin of mine died in Phila., Pa on July 11, 1909 and is buried in
Mt Carmel Cemetery in Phila. I have a picture of this grave.

Phila. Archives Office has *no* record of death.
LDS's records show his last name: MENTELKERN.
I again contacted the Archives Office and asked them to use this name
along w/ original death date. -- he again doesn't exist.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Death cert / Abraham MANDELKERN/MENTELKERN #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Steve,

Per A's indexing, the Death Certificate lists father as Mendelkein
(Undertaker's handwriting was careless, to say the least.

Using the FHL records:
I found the child as Mentelkern, but the doctor's handwriting is
not much better. So it's very possible the certificate is filed as
Mentelhern or even Mentellsern! Or even carelessly as Mentle......

Just goes to show why it's always best to get a copies rather than
rely on indices.

Sending a copy of the death certificate separately.

Good luck,
Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
~~~

A cousin of mine died in Phila., Pa on July 11, 1909 and is buried in
Mt Carmel Cemetery in Phila. I have a picture of this grave.

Phila. Archives Office has *no* record of death.
LDS's records show his last name: MENTELKERN.
I again contacted the Archives Office and asked them to use this name
along w/ original death date. -- he again doesn't exist.


MEIDER from Kalisz #general

SAM MALTWOOD
 

Hello and greetings >from Canada!
I have been putting together my family tree since April 2011 and it
has grown to over 650 people so far!
My mothers maiden name was MEIDER and I have traced back her roots to
Nachman Mider (only internet records found) who was originally >from
Kalisz.According to these records, he married Chaja who passed away
in 1859, I have found no record of her birth or marriage either. They
had a number of children,
1. Wolf (1825-1825),
2. Gittel (1826-1828),
3. Abraham (1830-1875 emigrated to the UK),
4. Harris (poss. name Hersz -1832-1906 and my 3rd great grandfather
who emigrated to the UK),
5. Rechel (1837-?),
6. Basia (1842- ? - married Icek Bialek in 1868),
7. Berek (1845-?)
8. Nathan (poss. name Nasen, 1837 - 1907 who emigrated to the UK)
So my search has basically stopped with Nachman and Chaja.
I would really appreciate any help >from your members as well as hoping
to connect with distant relatives to 'swop notes'.
Could you please re-word this request to meet your requirements.
Many thanks.
Samantha MALTWOOD

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Major addition to Kovel KehilaLinks page #general

Bruce Drake <bruce.drake@...>
 

For those interested in Kovel, I have made a major addition to one feature
of the site. Prompted by Ron Doctor's Ukraine town leader project which has
been building a searchable database for names of individuals >from towns in
what is now the Ukraine, I've created an alphabetized PDF of about 1,400
Kovel names drawn >from the 1957 Memorial Book (which I am slowly but surely
getting translated through the Yizkor Book project), the necrology >from the
1951 Pinkes Kowel, oral histories found on the web, family histories and
other sources. The PDF contains specific page references to where names
from the memorial books appear, either in text or photo captions, and for
names culled >from other sources, there is a key for URLs to get to those
sources.

At this point, the list does not contain every name in the 1957 memorial
book; it contains only names that appear in chapters that have been
translated. There are names for some of the untranslated chapters in the
1951 and 1957 books because I have pages on my KehilaLinks site that contain
photographs >from which I extracted names in the captions. For those, you
will find an URL that takes you to the correct page on the site, and
specifies the row in which the photograph appears.

Please notify me of any errors you spot. Creating the Excel sheet that was
the basis of the PDF was somewhat new to me and in the sorting, it's
possible some things fell out of place although I made as many random spot
checks as I could to see if that had occurred. A big thanks to Ellen
Garshick for the work she put into helping me with the spreadsheet.

I hope you find this useful.

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kovel/nameindex.pdf

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, Md.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MEIDER from Kalisz #general

SAM MALTWOOD
 

Hello and greetings >from Canada!
I have been putting together my family tree since April 2011 and it
has grown to over 650 people so far!
My mothers maiden name was MEIDER and I have traced back her roots to
Nachman Mider (only internet records found) who was originally >from
Kalisz.According to these records, he married Chaja who passed away
in 1859, I have found no record of her birth or marriage either. They
had a number of children,
1. Wolf (1825-1825),
2. Gittel (1826-1828),
3. Abraham (1830-1875 emigrated to the UK),
4. Harris (poss. name Hersz -1832-1906 and my 3rd great grandfather
who emigrated to the UK),
5. Rechel (1837-?),
6. Basia (1842- ? - married Icek Bialek in 1868),
7. Berek (1845-?)
8. Nathan (poss. name Nasen, 1837 - 1907 who emigrated to the UK)
So my search has basically stopped with Nachman and Chaja.
I would really appreciate any help >from your members as well as hoping
to connect with distant relatives to 'swop notes'.
Could you please re-word this request to meet your requirements.
Many thanks.
Samantha MALTWOOD

MODERATOR NOTE: A clarification and some comments are in order, since
Samantha shares a common misconception about this discussion group.

--JewishGen has no staff to answer questions. When you write to this
group, what you write goes directly to more than 5000 e-mail subscribers
and to others who read it via the newsgroup. The moderator simply makes
sure it conforms to the group's guidelines, and if it does, posts it,
sometimes adding a note like this one.

--When you write to the group, use a subject line that reflects the
content of the post. Subject lines like "Need more information" or
"Re: jewishgen digest: February 19, 2012" will have to be rewritten by
the moderator. Many readers skip posts whose subject lines don't
interest them, and you may miss getting to the one person who can
help you if your subject line is uninformative.

--Always sign your post with your full name. We also encourage you
to include your location, in general terms ("Chicago area" is fine),
since it often makes a difference for the advice you'll be given.

The rules and guidelines for the discussion group are at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/rules.htm>.
A revised, updated version of these guidelines will be posted in the
next few months. Watch for it.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Major addition to Kovel KehilaLinks page #general

Bruce Drake <bruce.drake@...>
 

For those interested in Kovel, I have made a major addition to one feature
of the site. Prompted by Ron Doctor's Ukraine town leader project which has
been building a searchable database for names of individuals >from towns in
what is now the Ukraine, I've created an alphabetized PDF of about 1,400
Kovel names drawn >from the 1957 Memorial Book (which I am slowly but surely
getting translated through the Yizkor Book project), the necrology >from the
1951 Pinkes Kowel, oral histories found on the web, family histories and
other sources. The PDF contains specific page references to where names
from the memorial books appear, either in text or photo captions, and for
names culled >from other sources, there is a key for URLs to get to those
sources.

At this point, the list does not contain every name in the 1957 memorial
book; it contains only names that appear in chapters that have been
translated. There are names for some of the untranslated chapters in the
1951 and 1957 books because I have pages on my KehilaLinks site that contain
photographs >from which I extracted names in the captions. For those, you
will find an URL that takes you to the correct page on the site, and
specifies the row in which the photograph appears.

Please notify me of any errors you spot. Creating the Excel sheet that was
the basis of the PDF was somewhat new to me and in the sorting, it's
possible some things fell out of place although I made as many random spot
checks as I could to see if that had occurred. A big thanks to Ellen
Garshick for the work she put into helping me with the spreadsheet.

I hope you find this useful.

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/kovel/nameindex.pdf

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, Md.


Descendants of Rabbis of Kremenetz, Ukr.18th cent #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

According to my (and another) family tree, we are descendants of the
Mahara"l (of Prague) through R' Naftali KATZ (the "Smichat Chachamim)
and his descendants Shmuel and son Arieh who were Rabbis of Kremenetz
in the 18th cent. These Rabbis were also descendants of the Maharsha"L
(Luria). These geneaolgies appear in several published sources.

The above Rav Arieh Leib had a son (or grandson) who served later in
Rivne. My link to this tree is through a daughter of Arieh who is not
mentioned in any published sources (that I have found). This daughter
married a Yosef of Bereznitz (Berezne?), who had a son Yisrael
(possibly ROSENBAUM) of Ostroh, in turn had at least two sons,
(chaim)Yosef and David (changed his name to SCHECHTER)(my
ggreatgranfather). David SCHECHTER and his descendants served in
several communities in Ukr. (Starokonstantine, Skalat) as Schochtim
(ritual butchers).

If this tree, >from the above Arieh Leibs daughter, sounds familiar to
anyone, I would be very happy to hear >from you.

Thank you

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Descendants of Rabbis of Kremenetz, Ukr.18th cent #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

According to my (and another) family tree, we are descendants of the
Mahara"l (of Prague) through R' Naftali KATZ (the "Smichat Chachamim)
and his descendants Shmuel and son Arieh who were Rabbis of Kremenetz
in the 18th cent. These Rabbis were also descendants of the Maharsha"L
(Luria). These geneaolgies appear in several published sources.

The above Rav Arieh Leib had a son (or grandson) who served later in
Rivne. My link to this tree is through a daughter of Arieh who is not
mentioned in any published sources (that I have found). This daughter
married a Yosef of Bereznitz (Berezne?), who had a son Yisrael
(possibly ROSENBAUM) of Ostroh, in turn had at least two sons,
(chaim)Yosef and David (changed his name to SCHECHTER)(my
ggreatgranfather). David SCHECHTER and his descendants served in
several communities in Ukr. (Starokonstantine, Skalat) as Schochtim
(ritual butchers).

If this tree, >from the above Arieh Leibs daughter, sounds familiar to
anyone, I would be very happy to hear >from you.

Thank you

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Touring Auschwitz #general

Dave Katz <dkatzaz@...>
 

Does anyone have a recommended tour guide or company for Krakow and Auschwitz?

Beth Katz
Beth@katzdesigngroup.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send recommendations privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Touring Auschwitz #general

Dave Katz <dkatzaz@...>
 

Does anyone have a recommended tour guide or company for Krakow and Auschwitz?

Beth Katz
Beth@katzdesigngroup.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send recommendations privately.


Barbara JOSEPH's daughters Mallory and Linda?? #general

Edward Klein <edwx@...>
 

I'm trying to find any information on the daughters of my great aunt Barbara
JOSEPH. Barbara was born on Sept. 26, 1913, and died on May 15, 1988. I
know that she had 2 daughters Mallory and Linda, but I don't have a surname
for them, and am coming up with literally nothing. Joseph is their mother
Barbara's maiden name. That's all I have. Help please. Suggestions??
Thanks.

Edward Klein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barbara JOSEPH's daughters Mallory and Linda?? #general

Edward Klein <edwx@...>
 

I'm trying to find any information on the daughters of my great aunt Barbara
JOSEPH. Barbara was born on Sept. 26, 1913, and died on May 15, 1988. I
know that she had 2 daughters Mallory and Linda, but I don't have a surname
for them, and am coming up with literally nothing. Joseph is their mother
Barbara's maiden name. That's all I have. Help please. Suggestions??
Thanks.

Edward Klein


"Hidden" names in the Hungary database #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
Another way to search for town names if all you have is the=20
Hungarian name is via wikipedia.
For example, go the the main wikipedia site www.wikipedia.org =20
Choose "Magyar"
as the search language. Enter the Hungarian name of your town. For=20
demonstration purposes, I chose
Nagyvarad. And up comes the following page: =20
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagyv%C3%A1rad
I don't understand a word of Hungarian, but in a box in the upper right=20
corner it says "Nagyvarad
(Oradea, Grosswardein)" which are the Romanian and German names for the=20
town.
It works for smaller towns, as well. Lately I've been=20
transcribing HungarianYizkor book necrologies
and I need to put in the current name of the towns listed in the=20
necrology. I've found 95% of them this way.
Regards,

Judy Petersen
Fort Collins, CO

-----Original Message-----
From: mt.neustadt <mt.neustadt@web.de>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 11:00 pm
Subject: [h-sig] "Hidden" names in the Hungary database

I am a relatively new member of the h-sig group and I am contributing=20
for
the first time to our efforts to find our ancestors.

Searching town names is always a problem. Jewishgen town finder help=20
only in
very few cases. I will draw your attention to a excellent free database.
Using this I was able to find even Hungarian, German or Slovak town=20
names in
more than 90% cases. You will find this database under www.cisarik.com.=20
If
necessary I hope to help with more explications.

Regards
Tomas Neustadt
Schwerte, Germany

Moderator: JewishGen's Communities Database=20
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp is the
best way to identify the names of Jewish communities. You can find the=20
pre-WWI, interwar, and current names
of the places you are researching and can also find out how many other=20
JewishGenrs are researching families
>from the same place. If the Jewish population was small, you can use=20
the JewishGen Gazetteer
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp to find places where=20
your family may have lived. You
can also use the Gazetteer to find places close by where other family=20
members may have lived. Note that
the database identified in the message focuses on places in Slovakia.=20
If you want more information about
the website mentioned in his message, please contact Tomas off-list.


Berezhnytsi, Ukraine #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I located on a map of Ukraine a town called Berezhnytsi (NW Ukr.)
which would seem a good candidate for my gggggreatgrandfather's town
as his (or his wife's) ancestors and his descendants were active in
the general area. Searching the Jewishgen communities databases ,
when I wrote in the name of the town they gave me "0 matches". Does
this mean that there was no known Jewish community in that town?

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary "Hidden" names in the Hungary database #hungary

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
Another way to search for town names if all you have is the=20
Hungarian name is via wikipedia.
For example, go the the main wikipedia site www.wikipedia.org =20
Choose "Magyar"
as the search language. Enter the Hungarian name of your town. For=20
demonstration purposes, I chose
Nagyvarad. And up comes the following page: =20
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagyv%C3%A1rad
I don't understand a word of Hungarian, but in a box in the upper right=20
corner it says "Nagyvarad
(Oradea, Grosswardein)" which are the Romanian and German names for the=20
town.
It works for smaller towns, as well. Lately I've been=20
transcribing HungarianYizkor book necrologies
and I need to put in the current name of the towns listed in the=20
necrology. I've found 95% of them this way.
Regards,

Judy Petersen
Fort Collins, CO

-----Original Message-----
From: mt.neustadt <mt.neustadt@web.de>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 11:00 pm
Subject: [h-sig] "Hidden" names in the Hungary database

I am a relatively new member of the h-sig group and I am contributing=20
for
the first time to our efforts to find our ancestors.

Searching town names is always a problem. Jewishgen town finder help=20
only in
very few cases. I will draw your attention to a excellent free database.
Using this I was able to find even Hungarian, German or Slovak town=20
names in
more than 90% cases. You will find this database under www.cisarik.com.=20
If
necessary I hope to help with more explications.

Regards
Tomas Neustadt
Schwerte, Germany

Moderator: JewishGen's Communities Database=20
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp is the
best way to identify the names of Jewish communities. You can find the=20
pre-WWI, interwar, and current names
of the places you are researching and can also find out how many other=20
JewishGenrs are researching families
>from the same place. If the Jewish population was small, you can use=20
the JewishGen Gazetteer
http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp to find places where=20
your family may have lived. You
can also use the Gazetteer to find places close by where other family=20
members may have lived. Note that
the database identified in the message focuses on places in Slovakia.=20
If you want more information about
the website mentioned in his message, please contact Tomas off-list.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Berezhnytsi, Ukraine #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I located on a map of Ukraine a town called Berezhnytsi (NW Ukr.)
which would seem a good candidate for my gggggreatgrandfather's town
as his (or his wife's) ancestors and his descendants were active in
the general area. Searching the Jewishgen communities databases ,
when I wrote in the name of the town they gave me "0 matches". Does
this mean that there was no known Jewish community in that town?

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

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