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Re: [Galicia] The Temple in Lviv ( Lvov) #galicia

J.C.Keiner <j.c.keiner@...>
 

A cousin of my maternal grandmother's family was apparently a rabbi in the
reform synagogue in Lvov, which I presume was The Temple. His name was Rabbi
Guttman and he would have been murdered in the Shoah. I don't know any more
details than that --my maternal grandmother's family were all unwaveringly
Orthodox-- and would love to find out more. There was apparently another
Lvov Guttman cousin who was a Yiddish Theatre actor, also murdered in the
Shoah.

Any information would be most welcome.

Judy Keiner
London, England

On 10/04/2012 19:06, "Reuven Liebes" <reuvel@gmail.com> wrote:

My mother Ida Rosenberg was born in 1902 in ulica (street) Rybia near
Stary Rynek, very near The Temple. I visited Lvov 3 years ago and
found the house my grandfathers had lived and my mother had been
born.

I read the book "Murder in Lvov." I know that The Temple was a
synagogue of progressive prayers.

I am interested to know more about The Temple. Are some records
survived >from The Temple? May my grandfather's name appear there?
My mother studied in years 1912/3-1919/20 in college: "Prywatne
zenskie gimnazjum J.S Goldblatt-Kemerling" in Lwow. I have her
matriculation certificate. I am looking for any information about
this school.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: [Galicia] The Temple in Lviv ( Lvov) #galicia

J.C.Keiner <j.c.keiner@...>
 

A cousin of my maternal grandmother's family was apparently a rabbi in the
reform synagogue in Lvov, which I presume was The Temple. His name was Rabbi
Guttman and he would have been murdered in the Shoah. I don't know any more
details than that --my maternal grandmother's family were all unwaveringly
Orthodox-- and would love to find out more. There was apparently another
Lvov Guttman cousin who was a Yiddish Theatre actor, also murdered in the
Shoah.

Any information would be most welcome.

Judy Keiner
London, England

On 10/04/2012 19:06, "Reuven Liebes" <reuvel@gmail.com> wrote:

My mother Ida Rosenberg was born in 1902 in ulica (street) Rybia near
Stary Rynek, very near The Temple. I visited Lvov 3 years ago and
found the house my grandfathers had lived and my mother had been
born.

I read the book "Murder in Lvov." I know that The Temple was a
synagogue of progressive prayers.

I am interested to know more about The Temple. Are some records
survived >from The Temple? May my grandfather's name appear there?
My mother studied in years 1912/3-1919/20 in college: "Prywatne
zenskie gimnazjum J.S Goldblatt-Kemerling" in Lwow. I have her
matriculation certificate. I am looking for any information about
this school.


Re: Unusual Names #ukraine

Barry Sieger
 

Regarding the email regarding an unusual name Chanuy, my guess is that this
is Channa, a common Yiddish name. I've been translating Russian Jewish vital
records (>from Poland but written in Russian) and I've found that Yiddish
names tend to be written differently depending on the recorder and
translated differently depending on the translator. Russian vowels are
confusing to the non-native and is subject to all sorts of variation.
Recorders transliterate what they hear and sometimes the reporting family
member might express a name in a diminutive form or nickname.

Barry Sieger
Winter Park, Florida
SHAPIRO, FUCHS, NIMOY Izyaslav, Ukraine
SYGER Ostrow Mazowiecka, Poland

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE:Unusual Names #ukraine

Barry Sieger
 

Regarding the email regarding an unusual name Chanuy, my guess is that this
is Channa, a common Yiddish name. I've been translating Russian Jewish vital
records (>from Poland but written in Russian) and I've found that Yiddish
names tend to be written differently depending on the recorder and
translated differently depending on the translator. Russian vowels are
confusing to the non-native and is subject to all sorts of variation.
Recorders transliterate what they hear and sometimes the reporting family
member might express a name in a diminutive form or nickname.

Barry Sieger
Winter Park, Florida
SHAPIRO, FUCHS, NIMOY Izyaslav, Ukraine
SYGER Ostrow Mazowiecka, Poland

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Transcription help needed. #lithuania

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Hi - I'm trying to find my great great grandmother's maiden name, who
came >from Slobodka, born approximately 1832. Her married name is listed
as Tserna Borker in the Lithuanian records. She had 7 children who came
to America, but most of their records omit her maiden name. Here is the
only that does give a maiden name, a 1885 New Jersey marriage
certificate of one of her sons.

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/James_Barker_marriage.jpg

My best guess as to what's written there for her maiden name, is
"Cernper" (see the word Certificate at the bottom of the page). But
this doesn't match any Lithuania surname that I can think of. Either my
transcription is wrong, or the surname is totally contrived (or
Americanized), just like her first name was Americanized to Anna (as was
her husband's name, >from Mordecai to Maurice). Any other opinions
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Mark London
Natick, May


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Transcription help needed. #lithuania

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Hi - I'm trying to find my great great grandmother's maiden name, who
came >from Slobodka, born approximately 1832. Her married name is listed
as Tserna Borker in the Lithuanian records. She had 7 children who came
to America, but most of their records omit her maiden name. Here is the
only that does give a maiden name, a 1885 New Jersey marriage
certificate of one of her sons.

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/James_Barker_marriage.jpg

My best guess as to what's written there for her maiden name, is
"Cernper" (see the word Certificate at the bottom of the page). But
this doesn't match any Lithuania surname that I can think of. Either my
transcription is wrong, or the surname is totally contrived (or
Americanized), just like her first name was Americanized to Anna (as was
her husband's name, >from Mordecai to Maurice). Any other opinions
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Mark London
Natick, May


Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #hungary

bounce-2402423-772961@...
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be in
June and will include all submissions made through May 31. Per JOWBR's
requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or cemetery
sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 1.7 million Jewish burial records >from 65
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of
cemetery records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate
if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org Thank
you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
JOWBR Coordinator
nta@pipeline.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #hungary

bounce-2402423-772961@...
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be in
June and will include all submissions made through May 31. Per JOWBR's
requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or cemetery
sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 1.7 million Jewish burial records >from 65
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of
cemetery records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate
if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org Thank
you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
JOWBR Coordinator
nta@pipeline.com


Paris 2012 newsletter special "trips" #hungary

bounce-2400484-772961@...
 

JULY 15-18 2012
32nd IAJGS INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE on JEWISH GENEALOGY hosted by The
French Cercle de Genealogie Juive (www.genealoj.org)
(www.paris2012.eu – contact@paris2012.eu )

Newsletter N°8 – April 5, 2012
STILL SOME DAYS LEFT FOR EARLYBIRD REGISTRATION!
http://www.paris2012.eu/products

***SPECIAL "TRIPS" EDITION****

You can find all the descriptions of these trips on the Websitesite of
Joubert-Voyages
(http://www.joubert-voyages.com/cercle-genealogie-juive.php):

SIGN UP ASAP, THEIR SUCCESS DEPENDS ON YOU!

from July 5 to 12
- BELARUS: Minsk, Grodno, Mogilev ...
- POLAND: Warsaw, Krakow, Lodz, Lublin ...

from July 19 to 26
- HUNGARY: Buda and Pest, Debrecen ...
- The BALTIC STATES: Vilnius, Kaunas, Riga ...
- UKRAINE: Kiev, Lvov, Tarnopol ... with an extension to Odessa.

With free time to customize your trip

And also
- PORTUGAL (July 19 to 26): Lisbon, Guarda, Belmonte, Evora ...
Two days tours (19 and 20 July)
- BELGIUM: Brussels and Antwerp with, as guides, our colleagues Curators
of Jewish Museums
- NORMANDY: Elbeuf, Rouen and its Sublime House, Caen and the Landing
Beaches.

***IMPORTANT UPDATE****

NO! THE STOCK OF ROOMS AT THE SPECIAL CONFERENCE RATE at the Marriott Hotel
IS NOT EXHAUSTED. Some difficulties for reservation were occasionally
encountered only due to the great success of the Conference, that forced the
hotel to renew more frequently than they had planned the stock of rooms
available for us.
The SECURITY of the conference will be provided in compliance with the
standards of the police headquarters by both entry control on the site and a
guard 24 hours.

*****And do not forget to sign up for the GALA evening, LUNCHES and
BREAKFASTS, TOURS... Feel free to DONATE: http://www.paris2012.eu/products


Hungary SIG #Hungary Paris 2012 newsletter special "trips" #hungary

bounce-2400484-772961@...
 

JULY 15-18 2012
32nd IAJGS INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE on JEWISH GENEALOGY hosted by The
French Cercle de Genealogie Juive (www.genealoj.org)
(www.paris2012.eu – contact@paris2012.eu )

Newsletter N°8 – April 5, 2012
STILL SOME DAYS LEFT FOR EARLYBIRD REGISTRATION!
http://www.paris2012.eu/products

***SPECIAL "TRIPS" EDITION****

You can find all the descriptions of these trips on the Websitesite of
Joubert-Voyages
(http://www.joubert-voyages.com/cercle-genealogie-juive.php):

SIGN UP ASAP, THEIR SUCCESS DEPENDS ON YOU!

from July 5 to 12
- BELARUS: Minsk, Grodno, Mogilev ...
- POLAND: Warsaw, Krakow, Lodz, Lublin ...

from July 19 to 26
- HUNGARY: Buda and Pest, Debrecen ...
- The BALTIC STATES: Vilnius, Kaunas, Riga ...
- UKRAINE: Kiev, Lvov, Tarnopol ... with an extension to Odessa.

With free time to customize your trip

And also
- PORTUGAL (July 19 to 26): Lisbon, Guarda, Belmonte, Evora ...
Two days tours (19 and 20 July)
- BELGIUM: Brussels and Antwerp with, as guides, our colleagues Curators
of Jewish Museums
- NORMANDY: Elbeuf, Rouen and its Sublime House, Caen and the Landing
Beaches.

***IMPORTANT UPDATE****

NO! THE STOCK OF ROOMS AT THE SPECIAL CONFERENCE RATE at the Marriott Hotel
IS NOT EXHAUSTED. Some difficulties for reservation were occasionally
encountered only due to the great success of the Conference, that forced the
hotel to renew more frequently than they had planned the stock of rooms
available for us.
The SECURITY of the conference will be provided in compliance with the
standards of the police headquarters by both entry control on the site and a
guard 24 hours.

*****And do not forget to sign up for the GALA evening, LUNCHES and
BREAKFASTS, TOURS... Feel free to DONATE: http://www.paris2012.eu/products


JGSS Meeting April 15 US Customs and Immigration Service & How to Order Records #general

RobertW252@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento

Topic: "U.S. Customs and Immigration Service and How to Order Citizenship
Records Online"

Speaker: Lynn Brown

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento, CA

Sunday, April 15, 2012, 10 a.m.

Sacramento area genealogist Lynn Brown will talk about naturalization and
immigration records after 1906.
There is now enhanced access and availability of citizenship records and a
new federal genealogy department under the U.S. Customs and Immigration
Service

Lynn will provide an overview of citizenship records including visas,
permanent residency, alien registrations versus enemy alien registration,
and more.

Lynn Brown has been a family historian for more than 35 years. After
retiring >from careers with Girl Scouting, AT&T and the U.S. Army Reserves, she
embarked on a new career helping others with genealogy research.Currently
she is a volunteer at the Family History Center and recently retired >from
local school districts after teaching Computerized Genealogy. Lynn has been
lecturing to Bay Area and Central Valley genealogy groups since 2004.

All are welcome to attend the April 15, 2012 meeting at the Albert Einstein
Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento.

For more information about the Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento,
visit www.jgss.org , e-mail the JGSS at jgs_sacramento@yahoo.com

Bob Wascou
JGSS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSS Meeting April 15 US Customs and Immigration Service & How to Order Records #general

RobertW252@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento

Topic: "U.S. Customs and Immigration Service and How to Order Citizenship
Records Online"

Speaker: Lynn Brown

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento, CA

Sunday, April 15, 2012, 10 a.m.

Sacramento area genealogist Lynn Brown will talk about naturalization and
immigration records after 1906.
There is now enhanced access and availability of citizenship records and a
new federal genealogy department under the U.S. Customs and Immigration
Service

Lynn will provide an overview of citizenship records including visas,
permanent residency, alien registrations versus enemy alien registration,
and more.

Lynn Brown has been a family historian for more than 35 years. After
retiring >from careers with Girl Scouting, AT&T and the U.S. Army Reserves, she
embarked on a new career helping others with genealogy research.Currently
she is a volunteer at the Family History Center and recently retired >from
local school districts after teaching Computerized Genealogy. Lynn has been
lecturing to Bay Area and Central Valley genealogy groups since 2004.

All are welcome to attend the April 15, 2012 meeting at the Albert Einstein
Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento.

For more information about the Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento,
visit www.jgss.org , e-mail the JGSS at jgs_sacramento@yahoo.com

Bob Wascou
JGSS


JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island invites you to join us at our
Sunday, April 22, meeting.

Time: 2:00 P M
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Topic: "Holocaust Presentation"

Guest Speaker: Gary Mokotoff will lecture about strategies for finding
records of Holocaust victims and survivors. He will particularly focus on the
major resources for Holocaust research.

Gary Mokotoff helped establish the National Registry of Jewish Holocaust
Survivors for the American Gathering of Jewish Survivors. He has worked
with Yad Vashem to find ways of documenting the two million Shoah victims not
yet identified in the Shoah Victims Names Database. He led the first group
to use the facilities of the International Tracing Service at Bad Arolsen.
He is co-owner of AVOTAYNU, a company that publishes books and journals
of interest to people researching their Jewish family history. Gary has been
honored by the IAJGS, Association of Professional Genealogists and the
Federation of Genealogical Studies.

Admission is free and all are welcome.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island invites you to join us at our
Sunday, April 22, meeting.

Time: 2:00 P M
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Topic: "Holocaust Presentation"

Guest Speaker: Gary Mokotoff will lecture about strategies for finding
records of Holocaust victims and survivors. He will particularly focus on the
major resources for Holocaust research.

Gary Mokotoff helped establish the National Registry of Jewish Holocaust
Survivors for the American Gathering of Jewish Survivors. He has worked
with Yad Vashem to find ways of documenting the two million Shoah victims not
yet identified in the Shoah Victims Names Database. He led the first group
to use the facilities of the International Tracing Service at Bad Arolsen.
He is co-owner of AVOTAYNU, a company that publishes books and journals
of interest to people researching their Jewish family history. Gary has been
honored by the IAJGS, Association of Professional Genealogists and the
Federation of Genealogical Studies.

Admission is free and all are welcome.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #poland

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be in
June and will include all submissions made through May 31. Per JOWBR's
requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or cemetery
sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 1.7 million Jewish burial records >from 65
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of
cemetery records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate
if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org Thank
you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
JOWBR Coordinator
nta@pipeline.com


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #poland

Nolan Altman
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be in
June and will include all submissions made through May 31. Per JOWBR's
requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or cemetery
sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 1.7 million Jewish burial records >from 65
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of
cemetery records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate
if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org Thank
you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
JOWBR Coordinator
nta@pipeline.com


Re: Salons Bonvalet [frenchsig] #france

bkouchel@...
 

I was informed today that my question was answered 7 years ago.
Unfortunately, it was located on a website that I was unable to view.
Now, 7 years later I have my answer.

So the moral of this story is.... when you hit a brick wall, don't give up.

Salons Bonvalet, 29 boulevard du Temple (3e), in Le Marais (now a
historic district in Paris), was first a place where people came for
meetings during the french Revolution (1789-1793). Later it was a
restaurant with big reception rooms (salons) for weddings.
--
HAVEANICEDAY - Bonne journee !
Bernard I. Kouchel
koosh@bellsouth.net


Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #france

bounce-2402423-772957@...
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be in
June and will include all submissions made through May 31. Per JOWBR's
requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or cemetery
sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 1.7 million Jewish burial records >from 65
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of
cemetery records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate
if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org Thank
you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
JOWBR Coordinator
nta@pipeline.com


French SIG #France Re: Salons Bonvalet [frenchsig] #france

bkouchel@...
 

I was informed today that my question was answered 7 years ago.
Unfortunately, it was located on a website that I was unable to view.
Now, 7 years later I have my answer.

So the moral of this story is.... when you hit a brick wall, don't give up.

Salons Bonvalet, 29 boulevard du Temple (3e), in Le Marais (now a
historic district in Paris), was first a place where people came for
meetings during the french Revolution (1789-1793). Later it was a
restaurant with big reception rooms (salons) for weddings.
--
HAVEANICEDAY - Bonne journee !
Bernard I. Kouchel
koosh@bellsouth.net


French SIG #France Help Grow JOWBR - Next Update #france

bounce-2402423-772957@...
 

The next update to JewishGen's JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) Database (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) will be in
June and will include all submissions made through May 31. Per JOWBR's
requirements, submissions should include complete cemeteries or cemetery
sections, not individual family burial information.

JOWBR currently contains over 1.7 million Jewish burial records >from 65
countries. The database grows through the efforts of our donors; Jewish
Genealogical Societies, individuals, historical societies, cemetery
administrators, synagogues and Chevra Kadishas. If you are aware of
cemetery records that are not currently in our database, we would appreciate
if you could help us obtain them and help grow the database.

If you're interested in making a submission, please see "Submitting Data to
JOWBR" at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm If you
prefer, you can also watch our online screencasts that show you how JOWBR
works and will also walk you through the completion of the standard
templates at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

If you have any questions, please contact me at NAltman@JewishGen.org Thank
you in advance for your help!

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
JOWBR Coordinator
nta@pipeline.com

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