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Re: Seeking manifest for Feivel BERNSTEIN #general

Meron Lavie
 

Hi All,

I know that the OP requested private responses, but since my search story is
of general interest, I decided to respond here as well.

I immediately looked up "Feivel BERNSTEIN" in the www.castlegarden.org site,
and found nothing. I took a guess that a clerk would have no problem
spelling BERNSTEIN, but would have trouble spelling Feivel, so I tried "F*
BERNSTEIN" and up came "Feinel [sic] BERNSTEIN", within the expected time
frame.

Now, the Castle Garden site has no images. So I decided to look up "F*
BERNSTEIN" in ancestry.com - to no avail. So I started looking at their NY
Ports collection for the date and ship I got >from Castle Rock. There was no
"Feivel BERNSTEIN" on the ship according to the text manifext. My next move
was to look at the actual manuscript in the old, faded handwriting
(children, don't try this at home without adult supervision). Indeed, there
was Feivel, except in the text manifest he was listed as (hold on to your
hats)...

"Samuel LEONARD" (!!!)

So we had both "Samification" at play here, as well as an out-and-out mistake.

Mystery solved - and I have already submitted a correction to the
Ancestry.com site for Phyllis' benefit.

I guess Matzos are good brain food...

Meron LAVIE
Israel

From: Phyllis Blumenfeld [mailto:feigele1@...]

I have a manifest for my grandfather Feivel BERNSTEIN leaving Hull, England
via Liverpool on the way to NY on Aug.27, 1886 on the SS Hansa going to NY
and I assume this is Castle Garden.

He is 33 yrs old >from Przsnyz yet I cannot get his arrival in NY. When I
call Ancestry they tell me this info is not available. I have tried Stephen
Morse one step and get no info.

Yet I was able to get the Castle Garden manifest for my grandmother >from a
very kind member of Jewishgen under similar circumstances.
Can someone tell me how I can get this? I am a member of Ancestry which is
a must to use Morse's Castle Garden arrivals.

Completely puzzled why one is available and the other isnt.
Please answer privately......Thank you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Seeking manifest for Feivel BERNSTEIN #general

Meron Lavie
 

Hi All,

I know that the OP requested private responses, but since my search story is
of general interest, I decided to respond here as well.

I immediately looked up "Feivel BERNSTEIN" in the www.castlegarden.org site,
and found nothing. I took a guess that a clerk would have no problem
spelling BERNSTEIN, but would have trouble spelling Feivel, so I tried "F*
BERNSTEIN" and up came "Feinel [sic] BERNSTEIN", within the expected time
frame.

Now, the Castle Garden site has no images. So I decided to look up "F*
BERNSTEIN" in ancestry.com - to no avail. So I started looking at their NY
Ports collection for the date and ship I got >from Castle Rock. There was no
"Feivel BERNSTEIN" on the ship according to the text manifext. My next move
was to look at the actual manuscript in the old, faded handwriting
(children, don't try this at home without adult supervision). Indeed, there
was Feivel, except in the text manifest he was listed as (hold on to your
hats)...

"Samuel LEONARD" (!!!)

So we had both "Samification" at play here, as well as an out-and-out mistake.

Mystery solved - and I have already submitted a correction to the
Ancestry.com site for Phyllis' benefit.

I guess Matzos are good brain food...

Meron LAVIE
Israel

From: Phyllis Blumenfeld [mailto:feigele1@...]

I have a manifest for my grandfather Feivel BERNSTEIN leaving Hull, England
via Liverpool on the way to NY on Aug.27, 1886 on the SS Hansa going to NY
and I assume this is Castle Garden.

He is 33 yrs old >from Przsnyz yet I cannot get his arrival in NY. When I
call Ancestry they tell me this info is not available. I have tried Stephen
Morse one step and get no info.

Yet I was able to get the Castle Garden manifest for my grandmother >from a
very kind member of Jewishgen under similar circumstances.
Can someone tell me how I can get this? I am a member of Ancestry which is
a must to use Morse's Castle Garden arrivals.

Completely puzzled why one is available and the other isnt.
Please answer privately......Thank you.


Marriages and births in Berlin - 1890s, early 1900s #general

Israel P
 

What is available on marriages in Berlin >from the 1890s and subsequent births?

I am looking at two such couples. For one, I know the man's name; for the
other, I know the woman's name.

(I realize I may be able to work backwards >from Holocaust records, but I
may want the marriages and births themselves.)

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marriages and births in Berlin - 1890s, early 1900s #general

Israel P
 

What is available on marriages in Berlin >from the 1890s and subsequent births?

I am looking at two such couples. For one, I know the man's name; for the
other, I know the woman's name.

(I realize I may be able to work backwards >from Holocaust records, but I
may want the marriages and births themselves.)

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Re: Accessing 1940 Census -- Additional pages/books (answer found) #general

Adelle Gloger
 

On Thursday of this week (4/12/2012), not having seen a definitive answer
to my question, I telephoned the Census Bureau. The individual with whom I
spoke told me she would contact the "History" staff. She came back and
informed me that she was told that the 1940 Census Housing Schedule was
destroyed in 1950. I find it interesting that the Housing schedule form is
available for viewing / printing. At least we are able to see what sort of
questions were asked. It is my further understanding that the Housing schedule
was not filled out for every household -- only a sampling.

I did receive an e-mail reply >from an individual who stated that he thought
the Housing schedule was completed on only 5% of households.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...

On 4/13/2012 Emily Garber < gilah@... > wrote in answer to my post
regarding the Housing Schedule in the 1940 census:

My understanding is that 1940 US Census schedules for Agriculture and
Housing were destroyed after statistical data were gleaned. Thus, while
we have the Population schedules to enjoy 72 years after they were created,
we have no equivalent raw data for the Agriculture or Housing schedules.
Unfortunately I have been unable to locate any cited reference to this on
either the Bureau of Census or NARA websites.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Accessing 1940 Census -- Additional pages/books (answer found) #general

Adelle Gloger
 

On Thursday of this week (4/12/2012), not having seen a definitive answer
to my question, I telephoned the Census Bureau. The individual with whom I
spoke told me she would contact the "History" staff. She came back and
informed me that she was told that the 1940 Census Housing Schedule was
destroyed in 1950. I find it interesting that the Housing schedule form is
available for viewing / printing. At least we are able to see what sort of
questions were asked. It is my further understanding that the Housing schedule
was not filled out for every household -- only a sampling.

I did receive an e-mail reply >from an individual who stated that he thought
the Housing schedule was completed on only 5% of households.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...

On 4/13/2012 Emily Garber < gilah@... > wrote in answer to my post
regarding the Housing Schedule in the 1940 census:

My understanding is that 1940 US Census schedules for Agriculture and
Housing were destroyed after statistical data were gleaned. Thus, while
we have the Population schedules to enjoy 72 years after they were created,
we have no equivalent raw data for the Agriculture or Housing schedules.
Unfortunately I have been unable to locate any cited reference to this on
either the Bureau of Census or NARA websites.


Boston Jewish history - time line #general

Stephen Katz
 

For those interested in Boston Jewish history, including Jewish
institutions, population statistics and movements, etc., there's a short
time line at
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2012/04/15/jewish_history_in_greater_boston_a_timeline/
[or use shortened URL http://goo.gl/K2DXc ]

Stephen KATZ
New York City

Researching:
KATZ (Novograd-Volynsk, Ukraine >Boston); TEPPER (Novograd-Volynsk and
Rowno, Ukraine); VITKIN (Kaunas, Lithuania>Boston); KAPLAN (Stakliskes,
Lithuania>Massachusetts; KABACHNIK (Butrimonys, Lithuania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boston Jewish history - time line #general

Stephen Katz
 

For those interested in Boston Jewish history, including Jewish
institutions, population statistics and movements, etc., there's a short
time line at
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2012/04/15/jewish_history_in_greater_boston_a_timeline/
[or use shortened URL http://goo.gl/K2DXc ]

Stephen KATZ
New York City

Researching:
KATZ (Novograd-Volynsk, Ukraine >Boston); TEPPER (Novograd-Volynsk and
Rowno, Ukraine); VITKIN (Kaunas, Lithuania>Boston); KAPLAN (Stakliskes,
Lithuania>Massachusetts; KABACHNIK (Butrimonys, Lithuania)


mtDNA haplogroup I #general

Jane
 

Hello Everybody,

I am in mtDNA group I, and I'm confused by something. When I look at my
matches on the Family Tree DNA website, the names look like a list of
contributors to the UJA. And yet, Wikipedia says,

"Haplogroup I is found at very low frequencies(generally <3%) throughout
Europe, Middle East, and South Asia. It is nearly absent in parts of Europe
(Iberia, Southwest France, Ireland) and strongest in Iceland(>5%), Scotland,
Norway, southern Finland, Ukraine, Greece and western Anatolia. A February
2009 study found that Lemkos (a sup- or co-ethnic group of Rusyns) in the
Carpathian Mountains have the "highest frequency of haplogroup I (11.3%) in
Europe. . ."

Jews in Iceland? Lemkos? They are Orthodox Christians. I just don't get it.

At this point, there are about 75 matches in mtDNA group I. It looks like
just about all of us are Jewish. The only thing I can think of that would
explain this is the idea that perhaps Jews are more likely to research their
ancestry and send in DNA samples than other ethnic groups.

Anybody have any ideas?

My mother's a Galitzianer, BTW. My maternal grandmother's mother's maiden
name was Weintraub.

Thanks,
Jane Smith
researching Weintraub, Jungermann, Rosenreich, Wallace, Zeman,
Bogorad (or something like that)

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen mtDNA haplogroup I #general

Jane
 

Hello Everybody,

I am in mtDNA group I, and I'm confused by something. When I look at my
matches on the Family Tree DNA website, the names look like a list of
contributors to the UJA. And yet, Wikipedia says,

"Haplogroup I is found at very low frequencies(generally <3%) throughout
Europe, Middle East, and South Asia. It is nearly absent in parts of Europe
(Iberia, Southwest France, Ireland) and strongest in Iceland(>5%), Scotland,
Norway, southern Finland, Ukraine, Greece and western Anatolia. A February
2009 study found that Lemkos (a sup- or co-ethnic group of Rusyns) in the
Carpathian Mountains have the "highest frequency of haplogroup I (11.3%) in
Europe. . ."

Jews in Iceland? Lemkos? They are Orthodox Christians. I just don't get it.

At this point, there are about 75 matches in mtDNA group I. It looks like
just about all of us are Jewish. The only thing I can think of that would
explain this is the idea that perhaps Jews are more likely to research their
ancestry and send in DNA samples than other ethnic groups.

Anybody have any ideas?

My mother's a Galitzianer, BTW. My maternal grandmother's mother's maiden
name was Weintraub.

Thanks,
Jane Smith
researching Weintraub, Jungermann, Rosenreich, Wallace, Zeman,
Bogorad (or something like that)

MODERATOR NOTE: Discussions regarding the results of DNA testing are beyond
the scope of this more general Jewish Genealogy forum. However, JewishGen
does have a forum geared to just this issue: "DNA Testing." We suggest you go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/ListManager/members_add.asp
Scroll down the page to find the DNA Testing Discussion Group subscription button.


Re: Local Newspaper lower Manhattan 1925 #general

Martha Forsyth
 

Allan, there is a fantastic site for searching old New York (city and
state) newspapers: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html ("Search
Over 18,269,000 Old New York State Historical Newspaper Pages"). The
search tool is good, and there is even more helpful information in the
FAQ page.

(I'll admit that I tried and didn't find anything for you - but that
doesn't guarantee that I tried....the ONE way that will find it!)

Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA

From: Allan S Karan <akaran1@...>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:36:54 -0400
Can anyone tell me of a local newspaper that might have reported on the
following? My wife's maternal great grandfather (Fishel EISEN) and mother
(Sarah) died together at the age of 82 and 87 of illuminating gas poison on
31 Mar 1925 in New York City at 52 Pitt Street.
I am wondering if it was really an accident, since their death certificate
has them being buried on April fool's Day.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Local Newspaper lower Manhattan 1925 #general

Martha Forsyth
 

Allan, there is a fantastic site for searching old New York (city and
state) newspapers: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html ("Search
Over 18,269,000 Old New York State Historical Newspaper Pages"). The
search tool is good, and there is even more helpful information in the
FAQ page.

(I'll admit that I tried and didn't find anything for you - but that
doesn't guarantee that I tried....the ONE way that will find it!)

Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA

From: Allan S Karan <akaran1@...>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:36:54 -0400
Can anyone tell me of a local newspaper that might have reported on the
following? My wife's maternal great grandfather (Fishel EISEN) and mother
(Sarah) died together at the age of 82 and 87 of illuminating gas poison on
31 Mar 1925 in New York City at 52 Pitt Street.
I am wondering if it was really an accident, since their death certificate
has them being buried on April fool's Day.
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Tour planner/guide recommendations sought. #general

mimi simon
 

Genners,
My brother is planning a trip to our ancestral villages in Hungary and
Ukraine. He would like recommendations for a tour planner/guide. He plans
to visit Dombrod, Olaszliszka, and Keked in Hungary, Storozhnitsa and
Kamenets Podolsk in nearby Ukraine, and a few places in Poland, if feasible.
If you can recommend someone, please contact me: mimisimon@....
Do not reply to the list. Thank you.

Regards,
Mimi Simon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tour planner/guide recommendations sought. #general

mimi simon
 

Genners,
My brother is planning a trip to our ancestral villages in Hungary and
Ukraine. He would like recommendations for a tour planner/guide. He plans
to visit Dombrod, Olaszliszka, and Keked in Hungary, Storozhnitsa and
Kamenets Podolsk in nearby Ukraine, and a few places in Poland, if feasible.
If you can recommend someone, please contact me: mimisimon@....
Do not reply to the list. Thank you.

Regards,
Mimi Simon


Livingston, New Jersey mohel circa 1952 #general

Shlomo Katz
 

Does anyone know the name(s) of the mohel or mohalim who served Livingston,
New Jersey circa 1952 and whether any records exist of the circumcisions
he/they performed? I am trying to help a friend learn his Hebrew name. Thanks.

Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Livingston, New Jersey mohel circa 1952 #general

Shlomo Katz
 

Does anyone know the name(s) of the mohel or mohalim who served Livingston,
New Jersey circa 1952 and whether any records exist of the circumcisions
he/they performed? I am trying to help a friend learn his Hebrew name. Thanks.

Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


Meier Weisz from Nyzhni Vorota #hungary

norsydl@...
 

I am interested in locating the family of Meier Weisz, born in 1868 in=20
Alsoverecke, Hungary, now Nyzhni Vorota, Ukraine. He married Malca and=20
had 4 children, Feige, Ester, Joseph and Abraham, all born between 1901=20
and 1908. Meier is the brother of Morris Weiss, my grandfather. A=20
friend in Australia located the passage of Meier who visited his=20
brother Morris in 1913. He returned to Hungary in 1922. His daughters=20
Feige and Ester came to the US and stayed here. Any information would=20
be appreciated.

Sydelle Weiss Cohen
norsydl@...

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Meier Weisz from Nyzhni Vorota #hungary

norsydl@...
 

I am interested in locating the family of Meier Weisz, born in 1868 in=20
Alsoverecke, Hungary, now Nyzhni Vorota, Ukraine. He married Malca and=20
had 4 children, Feige, Ester, Joseph and Abraham, all born between 1901=20
and 1908. Meier is the brother of Morris Weiss, my grandfather. A=20
friend in Australia located the passage of Meier who visited his=20
brother Morris in 1913. He returned to Hungary in 1922. His daughters=20
Feige and Ester came to the US and stayed here. Any information would=20
be appreciated.

Sydelle Weiss Cohen
norsydl@...

Moderator: Please respond off-list if you can provide information.


Local Newspaper lower Manhattan 1925 #general

Allan Karan
 

Can anyone tell me of a local newspaper that might have reported on the
following? My wife's maternal great grandfather (Fishel EISEN) and mother
(Sarah) died together at the age of 82 and 87 of illuminating gas poison on
31 Mar 1925 in New York City at 52 Pitt Street.
I am wondering if it was really an accident, since their death certificate
has them being buried on April fool's Day.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;
Chepeli; Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN from
Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Local Newspaper lower Manhattan 1925 #general

Allan Karan
 

Can anyone tell me of a local newspaper that might have reported on the
following? My wife's maternal great grandfather (Fishel EISEN) and mother
(Sarah) died together at the age of 82 and 87 of illuminating gas poison on
31 Mar 1925 in New York City at 52 Pitt Street.
I am wondering if it was really an accident, since their death certificate
has them being buried on April fool's Day.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;
Chepeli; Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN from
Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@...

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