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ViewMate Translation - Polish
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Isabel Cymerman
I've posted some vital records for the ZIELONAFARB family of Siedlce in
Polish for which I need a full translation for genealogy purposes: who, what where, when, how and witnesses and signers. I don't need the formulaic phrases. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24080 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24081 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24082 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24083 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24084 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much! Isabel Cymerman Roxbury, CT Searching: GRYNBERG, GRYNFARB (ZIELONAFARB), LUBELCZYK, ZABAWNY - Siedlce DRONZNIK, NEMENCHINSKI, SAPOZHNIK, SOLECZNIK/SOLC, TABACZNIK - Vilna CYMERMAN, KHELEMSKI, LANSKI, WYCZINSKI, ZYSKIND - Przedborz
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation - Polish
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Isabel Cymerman
I've posted some vital records for the ZIELONAFARB family of Siedlce in
Polish for which I need a full translation for genealogy purposes: who, what where, when, how and witnesses and signers. I don't need the formulaic phrases. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24080 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24081 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24082 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24083 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM24084 Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application. Thank you very much! Isabel Cymerman Roxbury, CT Searching: GRYNBERG, GRYNFARB (ZIELONAFARB), LUBELCZYK, ZABAWNY - Siedlce DRONZNIK, NEMENCHINSKI, SAPOZHNIK, SOLECZNIK/SOLC, TABACZNIK - Vilna CYMERMAN, KHELEMSKI, LANSKI, WYCZINSKI, ZYSKIND - Przedborz
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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people
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Werner Hirsch
There are definitely problems with the indexed 1940 Census. When this census
first became available, without the index, I was able to find me and my parents, living with another family in Hartford, CT, when I searched the index by street address. Now that the index is available, neither my parents and I, nor our host family appear to be listed. After much searching, I was finally able to find myself, but instead of Werner HIRSCH, I was listed as "Wenner Hirach." My mother Else was listed as "Alee," and the host family's name KARLINER was listed as "KOBILNER." Elsewhere in the census, my father-in-law, Louis, was listed as "Imes" and my mother-in-law, Helen, was listed as "Achin." Searching the index for other names as well, I found that I got the best results when I entered as few letters as possible in the name field, with wild cards, and entering the place of residence, when known, and the year (approximate is OK) and country of birth. Good luck! Werner HIRSCH New Haven, CT From: Debbie Skolnik <debskolnik@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:45:56 -0700 (PDT) I have not been able to find my grandparents, Tillie and Jacob Gerber,From: Steven Bachenheimer <bachlab@med.unc.edu> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:34 PM I think the simplest explanation is that they weren't enumerated.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people
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Werner Hirsch
There are definitely problems with the indexed 1940 Census. When this census
first became available, without the index, I was able to find me and my parents, living with another family in Hartford, CT, when I searched the index by street address. Now that the index is available, neither my parents and I, nor our host family appear to be listed. After much searching, I was finally able to find myself, but instead of Werner HIRSCH, I was listed as "Wenner Hirach." My mother Else was listed as "Alee," and the host family's name KARLINER was listed as "KOBILNER." Elsewhere in the census, my father-in-law, Louis, was listed as "Imes" and my mother-in-law, Helen, was listed as "Achin." Searching the index for other names as well, I found that I got the best results when I entered as few letters as possible in the name field, with wild cards, and entering the place of residence, when known, and the year (approximate is OK) and country of birth. Good luck! Werner HIRSCH New Haven, CT From: Debbie Skolnik <debskolnik@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:45:56 -0700 (PDT) I have not been able to find my grandparents, Tillie and Jacob Gerber,From: Steven Bachenheimer <bachlab@med.unc.edu> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:34 PM I think the simplest explanation is that they weren't enumerated.
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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people
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Teewinot
On 8/20/2012 2:31 AM, Lisa Lepore wrote:
Try the search tools at stevemorse.org and locate the the censusThis was the only way I could find my grandparents, father and aunt. I knew where they lived, yet couldn't find them on ancestry.com no matter what I typed in the search box. Fortunately for me, they were on the second page of the 30+ pages of their E.D. According to a message posted here several months ago, the 1940 census wasThat's a huge number of people. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many transcription errors as wellIn my case, this is true. My Friedman family was indexed as "Friedmer" on ancestry.com. That's why I couldn't locate them using their search. Steve Morse's finding tools are invaluable! Jeri Friedman (Florida, but born in NY) teewinot13@bellsouth.net RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno, Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, STURMAN, KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia); KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia); KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania); CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people
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Teewinot
On 8/20/2012 2:31 AM, Lisa Lepore wrote:
Try the search tools at stevemorse.org and locate the the censusThis was the only way I could find my grandparents, father and aunt. I knew where they lived, yet couldn't find them on ancestry.com no matter what I typed in the search box. Fortunately for me, they were on the second page of the 30+ pages of their E.D. According to a message posted here several months ago, the 1940 census wasThat's a huge number of people. It wouldn't surprise me that there are many transcription errors as wellIn my case, this is true. My Friedman family was indexed as "Friedmer" on ancestry.com. That's why I couldn't locate them using their search. Steve Morse's finding tools are invaluable! Jeri Friedman (Florida, but born in NY) teewinot13@bellsouth.net RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno, Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, STURMAN, KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia); KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia); KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania); CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)
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Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people
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Joel Weintraub
Group,
Now that the 1940 census has been name indexed by two different and independent groups, I'm seeing an increase in the number of inquiries here about "missing" 1940 relatives. One recent post indicated: "I am feeling as if there are records that have not yet been added or transcribed." Let's discuss the "undercount" or those people that were actually missed on this census. First, you should know that the original 1940 census forms were destroyed decades ago. The population schedules were microfilmed, and that master film was digitized by the National Archives and sold to the various groups that transcribed the census. Thus every group is working >from the same copy. I don't remember exactly, but about 50 EDs were missing >from the master film, probably lost by the enumerator or census bureau before filming, but that's a very small number compared to the 150,000 or so EDs that were enumerated in 1940. There are many reasons why people were missed. They weren't home, and did not respond to the blank forms that the enumerator left for them to fill out. They were residents of cities or sparse rural areas, two difficult areas to count. The enumerator was given wrong directions and maps as to what they were supposed to cover. The enumerator just plain made a mistake and didn't cover one block. The individual was at college or the CCC or some other government program and was supposed to be enumerated at their official address (not the college or camp) and that was not clear to the family and they were missed. And there are probably additional reasons as well including the fact that minority groups had a high undercount. So how many people were missed? Six months after the 1940 census was taken, there was a mandatory draft of men of certain ages. There were fines and prison terms if one didn't register, and many more men showed up to register for the draft than predicted by the census itself. The estimates based on this information, is that about 5% of the population (1 out of 20) were missed and as many as 8% or so of African-Americans were missed on this census. So... have records "not yet been added or transcribed"? I doubt it. All the records that are available are on the digitized film gotten >from the National Archives. In addition, we have two independent transcription groups/indexes for the 1940 census and thus, we have a very low probability that both groups would have "missed" a sheet >from the same ED. As to people who are on the 1940 census that you can't find. That's a different situation. There are a number of reasons why names don't appear as you expect, and that's the reason why I've been working for over 10 years on producing locational aids for finding people. But here's my method for finding people by a name index. 1. relax your assumptions. I try to produce 30 or 40 name results when I do a name search and I trust my ability to have a name "jump off the page" at me that might be the target family. 2. less is more in entering information on name templates. In fact, try to avoid entering last names, but use first names, multiple names together in the family, birth year plus/minus 2 years at least, birth location, and where you expect them to be. 3. use wild cards like * and ?. If you don't know about wild cards, it's time to learn about them. Just yesterday one member of the OCJGS asked me to find 5 "missing" families in New York city, and I found 4 of them using the above. But remember, using name indexes will not tell you if the person was actually missed. You can't prove a negative with a name index. The only way to show they were missed, is to use our locational utilities at stevemorse.org and show that the house they were definitely in, in 1940, was skipped during the enumeration. Joel Weintraub Dana Point, CA https://sites.google.com/site/census1940/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1940 Census and my family - more missing people
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Joel Weintraub
Group,
Now that the 1940 census has been name indexed by two different and independent groups, I'm seeing an increase in the number of inquiries here about "missing" 1940 relatives. One recent post indicated: "I am feeling as if there are records that have not yet been added or transcribed." Let's discuss the "undercount" or those people that were actually missed on this census. First, you should know that the original 1940 census forms were destroyed decades ago. The population schedules were microfilmed, and that master film was digitized by the National Archives and sold to the various groups that transcribed the census. Thus every group is working >from the same copy. I don't remember exactly, but about 50 EDs were missing >from the master film, probably lost by the enumerator or census bureau before filming, but that's a very small number compared to the 150,000 or so EDs that were enumerated in 1940. There are many reasons why people were missed. They weren't home, and did not respond to the blank forms that the enumerator left for them to fill out. They were residents of cities or sparse rural areas, two difficult areas to count. The enumerator was given wrong directions and maps as to what they were supposed to cover. The enumerator just plain made a mistake and didn't cover one block. The individual was at college or the CCC or some other government program and was supposed to be enumerated at their official address (not the college or camp) and that was not clear to the family and they were missed. And there are probably additional reasons as well including the fact that minority groups had a high undercount. So how many people were missed? Six months after the 1940 census was taken, there was a mandatory draft of men of certain ages. There were fines and prison terms if one didn't register, and many more men showed up to register for the draft than predicted by the census itself. The estimates based on this information, is that about 5% of the population (1 out of 20) were missed and as many as 8% or so of African-Americans were missed on this census. So... have records "not yet been added or transcribed"? I doubt it. All the records that are available are on the digitized film gotten >from the National Archives. In addition, we have two independent transcription groups/indexes for the 1940 census and thus, we have a very low probability that both groups would have "missed" a sheet >from the same ED. As to people who are on the 1940 census that you can't find. That's a different situation. There are a number of reasons why names don't appear as you expect, and that's the reason why I've been working for over 10 years on producing locational aids for finding people. But here's my method for finding people by a name index. 1. relax your assumptions. I try to produce 30 or 40 name results when I do a name search and I trust my ability to have a name "jump off the page" at me that might be the target family. 2. less is more in entering information on name templates. In fact, try to avoid entering last names, but use first names, multiple names together in the family, birth year plus/minus 2 years at least, birth location, and where you expect them to be. 3. use wild cards like * and ?. If you don't know about wild cards, it's time to learn about them. Just yesterday one member of the OCJGS asked me to find 5 "missing" families in New York city, and I found 4 of them using the above. But remember, using name indexes will not tell you if the person was actually missed. You can't prove a negative with a name index. The only way to show they were missed, is to use our locational utilities at stevemorse.org and show that the house they were definitely in, in 1940, was skipped during the enumeration. Joel Weintraub Dana Point, CA https://sites.google.com/site/census1940/
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Re: Baron de Hirsch farming communities
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Sandy Bass-Cors <sandy@...>
Hello all: I've been trying for a few years to find where a relative
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died at what we think was a Baron De Hirsch halfway house, possibly in the South. I've been unlucky and was wondering if anyone knew where this De Hirsch would have buried indigent Jews? Thank you, Sandy Cors
On 8/17/2012 8:58 AM, Patricia Klindienst wrote:
In response to Carol Starin's query, I did some research and found information about another family of Russian Jews who emigrated to Camper Colony >from Nikolayev in 1911, as well as the contact information for an archive that can help in the search for information about Colony Camper (whose earlier name was New Hirsch (1911)):
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Baron de Hirsch farming communities
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Sandy Bass-Cors <sandy@...>
Hello all: I've been trying for a few years to find where a relative
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died at what we think was a Baron De Hirsch halfway house, possibly in the South. I've been unlucky and was wondering if anyone knew where this De Hirsch would have buried indigent Jews? Thank you, Sandy Cors
On 8/17/2012 8:58 AM, Patricia Klindienst wrote:
In response to Carol Starin's query, I did some research and found information about another family of Russian Jews who emigrated to Camper Colony >from Nikolayev in 1911, as well as the contact information for an archive that can help in the search for information about Colony Camper (whose earlier name was New Hirsch (1911)):
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Baron de Hirsch farming communities
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William Sklar
The Canadian jewish Heritage Network has an excellent website
http://www.cjhn.ca/en/family-history.aspx which contains many of the individual farm seller reports made by the "Jewish Colonization Association". William L. Sklar Toronto
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Baron de Hirsch farming communities
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William Sklar
The Canadian jewish Heritage Network has an excellent website
http://www.cjhn.ca/en/family-history.aspx which contains many of the individual farm seller reports made by the "Jewish Colonization Association". William L. Sklar Toronto
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Searching for traces of Donald EMANUEL in New York.
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Steven Emanuel <steven.emanuel@...>
Dear Genners
I am seeking ideas on how to trace further information on a 1st cousin (once removed) who lived in New York. Werner EMANUEL, aka Donald, was born in Mannheim 26 June 1921 to Eugen EMANUEL & Flore (aka Lore) nee HIRSCH. Emigrated to USA in 1936. The last trace of him I have discovered is in 1945 being recorded as a casualty in WW2. However I have recently heard that he was married with a daughter, had an ugly divorce and became estranged >from said daughter. He lived with his mother & later committed suicide. I have no dates for these events- they are a recent remembrance of a cousin who attended the funeral as a small child. The WW2 casualty record card shows only his mother, so I assume Eugen had died by then. I have no further trace of either of Donald's parents after 1940 census. There was a brother Cola aka Nick who died in WW2 in what became known as the "Rheims Accident". Does anyone have suggestions of avenues I can follow to try & find more information? Any ideas will be gratefully received. Steven Emanuel, Blackwater UK jgid 185680 steven.emanuel@talktalk.net
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German SIG #Germany Searching for traces of Donald EMANUEL in New York.
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Steven Emanuel <steven.emanuel@...>
Dear Genners
I am seeking ideas on how to trace further information on a 1st cousin (once removed) who lived in New York. Werner EMANUEL, aka Donald, was born in Mannheim 26 June 1921 to Eugen EMANUEL & Flore (aka Lore) nee HIRSCH. Emigrated to USA in 1936. The last trace of him I have discovered is in 1945 being recorded as a casualty in WW2. However I have recently heard that he was married with a daughter, had an ugly divorce and became estranged >from said daughter. He lived with his mother & later committed suicide. I have no dates for these events- they are a recent remembrance of a cousin who attended the funeral as a small child. The WW2 casualty record card shows only his mother, so I assume Eugen had died by then. I have no further trace of either of Donald's parents after 1940 census. There was a brother Cola aka Nick who died in WW2 in what became known as the "Rheims Accident". Does anyone have suggestions of avenues I can follow to try & find more information? Any ideas will be gratefully received. Steven Emanuel, Blackwater UK jgid 185680 steven.emanuel@talktalk.net
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House Registers: Riga
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Marilyn Robinson
The link to this Excel formatted Riga register database is found at:
http://www.iijg.org/Research/IijgResearch/RigaHouseRegisters.aspx (or http://tinyurl.com/9s6f933) from the International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul JacobiCenter (National Library of Israel, Givat Ram Campus of Hebrew University, Jerusalem): 'Click her for the database". It contains more than 20,000 names (including parents', maiden), DOB/age, Place of birth, Place of origin or citzenship, DOD, pre-war address, occupation, gender, family status, registration date, date & place "struck off", etc. Names are not all in alphabetical order. Some names include: Abelsohn, Abragam, Ackermann, Amdur, Amitan, Balter, Barkan, Oscherowitsch, Notkin, Isaev, Slonimsky, Gleser, Jaskowitsch, karabus, Drujan, Schereschewsi, Swerdlin, Burin, Tschernik, Baschewitsch, Weisbein, Klodans, Meierowitz, Palunis, Paikin, Schifblatt, Kendin, Feiwelsohn, Hait (Chait?), Kabalkin, Jutter, Katzenelenbogen, Lurje, Mafzir, Magaram, Maech, Orkin, Palin, Sebel, Slivkin, Weger, Usdin, Urdang, et al. Please check the database for additional information. Marilyn Robinson Florida
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen House Registers: Riga
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Marilyn Robinson
The link to this Excel formatted Riga register database is found at:
http://www.iijg.org/Research/IijgResearch/RigaHouseRegisters.aspx (or http://tinyurl.com/9s6f933) from the International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul JacobiCenter (National Library of Israel, Givat Ram Campus of Hebrew University, Jerusalem): 'Click her for the database". It contains more than 20,000 names (including parents', maiden), DOB/age, Place of birth, Place of origin or citzenship, DOD, pre-war address, occupation, gender, family status, registration date, date & place "struck off", etc. Names are not all in alphabetical order. Some names include: Abelsohn, Abragam, Ackermann, Amdur, Amitan, Balter, Barkan, Oscherowitsch, Notkin, Isaev, Slonimsky, Gleser, Jaskowitsch, karabus, Drujan, Schereschewsi, Swerdlin, Burin, Tschernik, Baschewitsch, Weisbein, Klodans, Meierowitz, Palunis, Paikin, Schifblatt, Kendin, Feiwelsohn, Hait (Chait?), Kabalkin, Jutter, Katzenelenbogen, Lurje, Mafzir, Magaram, Maech, Orkin, Palin, Sebel, Slivkin, Weger, Usdin, Urdang, et al. Please check the database for additional information. Marilyn Robinson Florida
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SCHUSSHEIM or SCHUSHEIM
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Elaine Rosenberg
I have been searching for years for records for my immediate family >from
Debno near Jarowslaw'. The names are Itzak, Pincus, and Jehudah Leib. The only records I found were ship records. I want to get birth, marriage, etc. anything. It is as if they did not exist. I am an early member of JewishGen and can not get any where. I would appreciate any help you can help me. Elaine Schusheim Rosenberg Deerfield Beach, Fla
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SCHUSSHEIM or SCHUSHEIM
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Elaine Rosenberg
I have been searching for years for records for my immediate family >from
Debno near Jarowslaw'. The names are Itzak, Pincus, and Jehudah Leib. The only records I found were ship records. I want to get birth, marriage, etc. anything. It is as if they did not exist. I am an early member of JewishGen and can not get any where. I would appreciate any help you can help me. Elaine Schusheim Rosenberg Deerfield Beach, Fla
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Re: Foster Children and Orphanages in NYC?
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Everyone, thank you for your help. The child's name was Alfred SAYEGH or
SAYER. I know it is in NY or Westchester County. The child was born in NY in 1923 and placed in an orphanage for a period of time. He probably was in the 1930 census for the institution but I don't know the facility and the person is dead. I have a second person - Renee COHEN born in 1940 in Macon GA and placed in a NY orphanage with her younger brother as a toddler. Your help is appreciated. Sarina Roffe Brooklyn, NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Foster Children and Orphanages in NYC?
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Everyone, thank you for your help. The child's name was Alfred SAYEGH or
SAYER. I know it is in NY or Westchester County. The child was born in NY in 1923 and placed in an orphanage for a period of time. He probably was in the 1930 census for the institution but I don't know the facility and the person is dead. I have a second person - Renee COHEN born in 1940 in Macon GA and placed in a NY orphanage with her younger brother as a toddler. Your help is appreciated. Sarina Roffe Brooklyn, NY
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