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How to deal with gaps in one's tree
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David Schreiber
Hi! Over the years I have found several people or families that I am
quite sure are related to mine due to their obscure names and the small shtetls >from which they came. I would like to add these people to my tree, but I don't as yet know how many degrees of separation there are between them and my more immediate family members. I have been corresponding recently with a cousin whose greatgrandfather is probably either a brother or a first cousin of my maternal grandfather, but I have not located the documents that would tell me exactly where our connection occurs. What I would like to know >from other JewishGen members is, do you attach these people to your tree through some temporary undefined branches, do you just set up separate trees for them until such time as you have more information, or do you just wait until you have more information before you do anything at all with them? Any suggestions about how to handle these scenarios would be most helpful. Thanks. David Schreiber Melbourne, FL
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to deal with gaps in one's tree
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David Schreiber
Hi! Over the years I have found several people or families that I am
quite sure are related to mine due to their obscure names and the small shtetls >from which they came. I would like to add these people to my tree, but I don't as yet know how many degrees of separation there are between them and my more immediate family members. I have been corresponding recently with a cousin whose greatgrandfather is probably either a brother or a first cousin of my maternal grandfather, but I have not located the documents that would tell me exactly where our connection occurs. What I would like to know >from other JewishGen members is, do you attach these people to your tree through some temporary undefined branches, do you just set up separate trees for them until such time as you have more information, or do you just wait until you have more information before you do anything at all with them? Any suggestions about how to handle these scenarios would be most helpful. Thanks. David Schreiber Melbourne, FL
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Gostynin Yizkor Book Project
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Jessie Klein
My grandfather, Julius(Juda) Bagno was >from Gostynin, Poland. Through
my research, I discovered that several chapters and the necrology of the Yizkor book have been translated by JewishGen. You can view these at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/gostynin/gostynin.html I am interested in having the remainder of the book translated, and I will be coordinating the translation project. If your family was from Gostynin or any of the surrounding towns, you may find the translation to be of value for your research. Please consider supporting this project through http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23 Thank you, Jessie Klein Gostynin Yizkor Book Project Coordinator kleinj414@gmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gostynin Yizkor Book Project
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Jessie Klein
My grandfather, Julius(Juda) Bagno was >from Gostynin, Poland. Through
my research, I discovered that several chapters and the necrology of the Yizkor book have been translated by JewishGen. You can view these at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/gostynin/gostynin.html I am interested in having the remainder of the book translated, and I will be coordinating the translation project. If your family was from Gostynin or any of the surrounding towns, you may find the translation to be of value for your research. Please consider supporting this project through http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23 Thank you, Jessie Klein Gostynin Yizkor Book Project Coordinator kleinj414@gmail.com
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"Tarbut" Gymnasium of Grodno (Belarus), an Exhibition
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Hello, Dear Colleague Genners.
I'd like to share with you a fascinating story of one of our Israeli colleague who a few years ago took upon herself the perpetuation of her father's Shtetl, Lunna (Belarus), and has been passionately exploring new ways of doing so ever since. The ShtetLinks website for Lunna was only the first station in that journey, http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lunna. About four years ago, Ruth Marcus was looking at her father's photographs and found a group-photo of students who had graduated in 1930 >from the "Tarbut" Gymnasium in Grodno. She immediately recognized her father, Yitzchak ELIASHBERG, in that photo and was curious to know who were his classmates and teachers and what happened to them afterwards. She posted that photograph on several Internet websites and asked people to get in contact with her if they also recognized one of their parents. As a result, she received exciting responses >from people from all over the world. They sent her interesting materials related to the "Tarbut" Gymnasium in Grodno. Determined to present the history of this important Jewish institute, Ruth made it to have an exhibition about the "Tarbut" Gymnasium presented at the Yanka Kupala State University of Grodno, Faculty of History and Sociology (exhibition opened 10/10/2012). During the opening ceremony, there were talks by Edmund Yarmusik, Dean of the Department of History and Sociology; by Sergei Pivovarchik, Head of the Department of Archaeology and Ethnology; and by Ruth. Three musicians played Jewish music and "Hatikvah". Ruth says that it was a very exciting moment to sing "Hatikvah" at the University of Grodno when in front of her eyes she saw the pictures of her father, his classmates and teachers of the "Tarbut" Gymnasium. The exhibition opening was reported on the university wepage, including some photos, http://www.grsu.by (in Russian). Ruth can be contacted directly by email, .... Yours, Arnon Hershkovitz arnon.hershkovitz@gmail.com Israeli Family Roots Forum Leader MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Arnon for Ruth Marcus's e-mail. JewishGen privacy policy does not permit us to post third-party personal contact information.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Tarbut" Gymnasium of Grodno (Belarus), an Exhibition
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Hello, Dear Colleague Genners.
I'd like to share with you a fascinating story of one of our Israeli colleague who a few years ago took upon herself the perpetuation of her father's Shtetl, Lunna (Belarus), and has been passionately exploring new ways of doing so ever since. The ShtetLinks website for Lunna was only the first station in that journey, http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lunna. About four years ago, Ruth Marcus was looking at her father's photographs and found a group-photo of students who had graduated in 1930 >from the "Tarbut" Gymnasium in Grodno. She immediately recognized her father, Yitzchak ELIASHBERG, in that photo and was curious to know who were his classmates and teachers and what happened to them afterwards. She posted that photograph on several Internet websites and asked people to get in contact with her if they also recognized one of their parents. As a result, she received exciting responses >from people from all over the world. They sent her interesting materials related to the "Tarbut" Gymnasium in Grodno. Determined to present the history of this important Jewish institute, Ruth made it to have an exhibition about the "Tarbut" Gymnasium presented at the Yanka Kupala State University of Grodno, Faculty of History and Sociology (exhibition opened 10/10/2012). During the opening ceremony, there were talks by Edmund Yarmusik, Dean of the Department of History and Sociology; by Sergei Pivovarchik, Head of the Department of Archaeology and Ethnology; and by Ruth. Three musicians played Jewish music and "Hatikvah". Ruth says that it was a very exciting moment to sing "Hatikvah" at the University of Grodno when in front of her eyes she saw the pictures of her father, his classmates and teachers of the "Tarbut" Gymnasium. The exhibition opening was reported on the university wepage, including some photos, http://www.grsu.by (in Russian). Ruth can be contacted directly by email, .... Yours, Arnon Hershkovitz arnon.hershkovitz@gmail.com Israeli Family Roots Forum Leader MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Arnon for Ruth Marcus's e-mail. JewishGen privacy policy does not permit us to post third-party personal contact information.
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Krakow censuses of 1910, 1900 online
#galicia
Logan J. Kleinwaks
The Krakow Census of 1910 and part of the Krakow Census of 1900 are
now viewable online for free, with (handwritten) name indices, thanks to the Malopolska Digital Library and the Polish State Archive in Krakow. To learn how to find people using the indices, please see http://genealogyindexer.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3073 Direct links to the collections of census images: http://mbc.malopolska.pl/dlibra/publication?id=74941&tab=3 (1910), http://mbc.malopolska.pl/dlibra/publication?id=72489&tab=3 (1900). (For the 1890 instructions released previously, see http://genealogyindexer.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3017.) I do not know if/when the missing parts of the 1900 census will be posted online. Please share here or in the instructions thread at genealogyindexer.org any information about the censuses that might be of general interest, especially solutions to any problems you encounter. I regret that I am unable to explore the censuses in more detail or offer individual assistance at this time. Best regards, Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Krakow censuses of 1910, 1900 online
#galicia
Logan J. Kleinwaks
The Krakow Census of 1910 and part of the Krakow Census of 1900 are
now viewable online for free, with (handwritten) name indices, thanks to the Malopolska Digital Library and the Polish State Archive in Krakow. To learn how to find people using the indices, please see http://genealogyindexer.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3073 Direct links to the collections of census images: http://mbc.malopolska.pl/dlibra/publication?id=74941&tab=3 (1910), http://mbc.malopolska.pl/dlibra/publication?id=72489&tab=3 (1900). (For the 1890 instructions released previously, see http://genealogyindexer.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3017.) I do not know if/when the missing parts of the 1900 census will be posted online. Please share here or in the instructions thread at genealogyindexer.org any information about the censuses that might be of general interest, especially solutions to any problems you encounter. I regret that I am unable to explore the censuses in more detail or offer individual assistance at this time. Best regards, Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu near Washington, D.C.
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Re: Essen Taigs
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hfpjc
Essen taig, in fact, has an entirely different dimension to it. Back then,
it was customary for parents to send their children to study Torah in renowned yeshivas very far >from home. Due to the poverty, these yeshivas couldn't provide food for their pupils. Therefore, a system called essen taig (literal translation: Eating days) was devised. Every boy would receive an address of a local family with whom he would eat supper one night of the week. Each day, he would go to a different family in that shtetl, who would share of their meager food with the boy. No specific material was taught then, aside of, perhaps, the boy repeating the lessons learnt that day in yeshiva, as a token of appreciation for the food he received. Rifky Gelbman Brooklyn, New York
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Essen Taigs
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hfpjc
Essen taig, in fact, has an entirely different dimension to it. Back then,
it was customary for parents to send their children to study Torah in renowned yeshivas very far >from home. Due to the poverty, these yeshivas couldn't provide food for their pupils. Therefore, a system called essen taig (literal translation: Eating days) was devised. Every boy would receive an address of a local family with whom he would eat supper one night of the week. Each day, he would go to a different family in that shtetl, who would share of their meager food with the boy. No specific material was taught then, aside of, perhaps, the boy repeating the lessons learnt that day in yeshiva, as a token of appreciation for the food he received. Rifky Gelbman Brooklyn, New York
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Re: Essen Taigs
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Gordimer, A <gordimera@...>
"Essen teg" usually referred to a community arrangement between the
local yeshiva and laypeople in the community, whereby the yeshiva students ate their meals at the laypeople's homes. Laypeople who could afford to host yeshiva students for meals on a regular basis participated in this program, and it was common in yeshivos throughout Lita (the former greater Lithuania, where most of the yeshivos were located). One of the many innovations of the yeshiva in Telshe, Lithuania, was that it refused to have an essen teg program, as it felt that such a program detracted >from the dignity of Torah students, having to be fed by others on a constant basis. The Telshe yeshiva, which had extenstive outside funding unavailableto most yeshivos, provided elaborate dormitory and dining facilities for its student body - something not always available to most yeshiva students in poverty- stricken Lithuania. Avrohom Gordimer New York, NY ___ From: George Rothstein Sent: 11/10/2012 10:02 PM My grandfather (1882 - 1963) received both secular training as a pharmacist's assistance and religious training to become a shachet in Berezhano, Minsk. He arrived in the US in 1904 and was licensed as a shachet, probably in New York. He worked as a shachet in western Massachusetts for more than 20 years. My understanding is that he attended a community=run school called an essen taig which met on a rotating basis at various neighbors' houses and that included a lunch provided by the householder. Does anyone know who taught at these essen taigs and what was taught there? Would there likely by any surviving records? Would there be any record of his license as a shachet in New York?
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Essen Taigs
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Gordimer, A <gordimera@...>
"Essen teg" usually referred to a community arrangement between the
local yeshiva and laypeople in the community, whereby the yeshiva students ate their meals at the laypeople's homes. Laypeople who could afford to host yeshiva students for meals on a regular basis participated in this program, and it was common in yeshivos throughout Lita (the former greater Lithuania, where most of the yeshivos were located). One of the many innovations of the yeshiva in Telshe, Lithuania, was that it refused to have an essen teg program, as it felt that such a program detracted >from the dignity of Torah students, having to be fed by others on a constant basis. The Telshe yeshiva, which had extenstive outside funding unavailableto most yeshivos, provided elaborate dormitory and dining facilities for its student body - something not always available to most yeshiva students in poverty- stricken Lithuania. Avrohom Gordimer New York, NY ___ From: George Rothstein Sent: 11/10/2012 10:02 PM My grandfather (1882 - 1963) received both secular training as a pharmacist's assistance and religious training to become a shachet in Berezhano, Minsk. He arrived in the US in 1904 and was licensed as a shachet, probably in New York. He worked as a shachet in western Massachusetts for more than 20 years. My understanding is that he attended a community=run school called an essen taig which met on a rotating basis at various neighbors' houses and that included a lunch provided by the householder. Does anyone know who taught at these essen taigs and what was taught there? Would there likely by any surviving records? Would there be any record of his license as a shachet in New York?
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More about concentration camp pictures
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Ruth Frank <rhdfrank@...>
I first would like to thank everyone for their suggestions as to
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what to do with the pictures. I should have given more information. The pictures are >from Camp Gusen. I also have copies of an account written by the person who must have taken the pictures. In his account he mentions a testimonies by Franz Ziereis who was the commander-in-chief of Lager Mauthausen and other camps. These are all copies as I guess the pictures are.
On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Ruth Frank wrote:
I have a question about pictures I found while going through my mother's
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More about concentration camp pictures
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Ruth Frank <rhdfrank@...>
I first would like to thank everyone for their suggestions as to
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what to do with the pictures. I should have given more information. The pictures are >from Camp Gusen. I also have copies of an account written by the person who must have taken the pictures. In his account he mentions a testimonies by Franz Ziereis who was the commander-in-chief of Lager Mauthausen and other camps. These are all copies as I guess the pictures are.
On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Ruth Frank wrote:
I have a question about pictures I found while going through my mother's
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Re: Concentration camp photographs
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Lewis, Megan
Hello Ruth,
I think you have a set of the liberation photographs taken by the U.S. Army Signal Corps that were widely distributed to U.S. soldiers. For more information about these photographs as well as examples, please see the USHMM online article about them at http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10006237. I'm sending this to the list in case the moderators feel it would be of general interest. Best wishes, Megan Lewis reference librarian United States Holocaust Memorial Museum mlewis@ushmm.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Concentration camp photographs
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Lewis, Megan
Hello Ruth,
I think you have a set of the liberation photographs taken by the U.S. Army Signal Corps that were widely distributed to U.S. soldiers. For more information about these photographs as well as examples, please see the USHMM online article about them at http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10006237. I'm sending this to the list in case the moderators feel it would be of general interest. Best wishes, Megan Lewis reference librarian United States Holocaust Memorial Museum mlewis@ushmm.org
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Ledgers of the Mukhtarim at IGS website
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Lea Haber Gedalia <leahgedalia53@...>
Dear Friends
Delighted to announce that Ledgers of the Mukhtarim in Rehovot in now in IGS website : http://www.isragen.org.il/siteFiles/1/153/6582.asp Lea Haber Gedalia, IGS Chairperson
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ledgers of the Mukhtarim at IGS website
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Lea Haber Gedalia <leahgedalia53@...>
Dear Friends
Delighted to announce that Ledgers of the Mukhtarim in Rehovot in now in IGS website : http://www.isragen.org.il/siteFiles/1/153/6582.asp Lea Haber Gedalia, IGS Chairperson
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Re: powerful new searches available for Shoah Foundation survivor testimonies
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Ann Rabinowitz
Thanks to Renee Steinig for her posting on the new capabilities of the Shoah
Foundation database. I learned several new things when searching: 1. Not all testimonies are available online. Quite a number must be accessed on-site in 36 institutions in 10 countries. I was surprised that there were only three locations in Florida for accessing the testimonies and none of them on the east coast where the majority of Jews live. In addition, some of the testimonies are not indexed yet and, I assume, they will be in the future when money is available to do the work. 2. The testimonies are available in data and video segments which may or may not be on-line. There are photographs too which can be viewed on-line in a slide show format, but unfortunately they are not identified. 3. The biographical profile is very helpful as it usually gives the date and place of birth. 4. The search can be done by town which is quite helpful for those who know that their families came >from a certain place, but do not know their names or for KehilaLinks coordinators who wish to find all of the testimonies for their particular towns. Variant spellings should be tried or use of the first few letters of the name of the town. For instance, I looked for Kupiskis and then Kupis and was able to find four individuals, one of whom hid in Kupiskis which I had not heard about previously. When looking for Rokiskis, I tried Rakis and Rokis and found six individuals. One of the interviews, for Abraham Resnick, was for someone I knew and it was available on-line in English. 5. One of the things which I noticed was not asked was the maiden name of the female relatives such as mothers and grandmothers. For genealogists this is an important fact to know. It is well-worth looking through the database and should be quite helpful to many researching those who were living during the Holocaust era. Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: powerful new searches available for Shoah Foundation survivor testimonies
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Ann Rabinowitz
Thanks to Renee Steinig for her posting on the new capabilities of the Shoah
Foundation database. I learned several new things when searching: 1. Not all testimonies are available online. Quite a number must be accessed on-site in 36 institutions in 10 countries. I was surprised that there were only three locations in Florida for accessing the testimonies and none of them on the east coast where the majority of Jews live. In addition, some of the testimonies are not indexed yet and, I assume, they will be in the future when money is available to do the work. 2. The testimonies are available in data and video segments which may or may not be on-line. There are photographs too which can be viewed on-line in a slide show format, but unfortunately they are not identified. 3. The biographical profile is very helpful as it usually gives the date and place of birth. 4. The search can be done by town which is quite helpful for those who know that their families came >from a certain place, but do not know their names or for KehilaLinks coordinators who wish to find all of the testimonies for their particular towns. Variant spellings should be tried or use of the first few letters of the name of the town. For instance, I looked for Kupiskis and then Kupis and was able to find four individuals, one of whom hid in Kupiskis which I had not heard about previously. When looking for Rokiskis, I tried Rakis and Rokis and found six individuals. One of the interviews, for Abraham Resnick, was for someone I knew and it was available on-line in English. 5. One of the things which I noticed was not asked was the maiden name of the female relatives such as mothers and grandmothers. For genealogists this is an important fact to know. It is well-worth looking through the database and should be quite helpful to many researching those who were living during the Holocaust era. Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net
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