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Does anyone use the genealogy websites I set up years ago or can I stop renewing them? #germany

Stephen Weinstein
 

I set up two websites with the word "competitive" in the link years
ago and stopped paying attention. One of the registrations is up for
renewal (it expires October 8, coincidentally Erev Yom Kippur) and I'm
not sure if anyone uses either of them, plus GoDaddy has made renewing
feel like dealing with the IRS (apologies to the IRS), so I'm inclined
to just abandon them.

[If you don't use any websites with the word "competitive" in the
link, then this e[-mail doesn't pertain to you and you can stop
reading now. I'm not providing the link here because there are issues
with whether promoting the websites on JewishGen groups is allowed;
today, I'm just trying to gather information >from existing users, if
there are any.]

To renew, in addition to paying a small amount of money, GoDaddy says
that I also have to agree to multiple really long agreements (terms of
service, privacy policy, data processing addendum, etc.) that I don't
really have time to read -- and it's not all reasonable stuff that you
can just accept without reading. You're allowing them to run up your
phone bill by telemarketing you, to auto-renew in future years at
whatever price they want, etc. So if someone needs my sites to remain
live, then I'm going to have to go through all the agreements to make
sure that I can live with everything that's in them (or switch to a
different company with more acceptable terms -- which could take me
even more time). If nobody's using them anyway, I can just let them
expire (or let one expire and sell the other's domain name).

I know no one is using the paid research services (because I haven't
gotten any money after the first year) or the competitive games that
involve contacting me (because no one has). The database of links to
Christine's Latvia pages is borderline useless, because so many of her
pages aren't online anymore, and because the content of her pages is
supposed to be on Jewishgen soon anyway. The database of links to
pages on the Latvian Archives website is potentially useful, but I
think that by putting the records on Jewishgen with links to the
Latvian Archives website, I've made my own websites redundant. That
basically leaves the noncompetitive practice games, which I don't
monitor, so I don't know if they're used (or even working).

Anyway, if I'm wrong and I have created a useful service, tell me soon.

Stephen Weinstein
stephenweinstein@yahoo.com
Camarillo, CA, USA


German SIG #Germany Does anyone use the genealogy websites I set up years ago or can I stop renewing them? #germany

Stephen Weinstein
 

I set up two websites with the word "competitive" in the link years
ago and stopped paying attention. One of the registrations is up for
renewal (it expires October 8, coincidentally Erev Yom Kippur) and I'm
not sure if anyone uses either of them, plus GoDaddy has made renewing
feel like dealing with the IRS (apologies to the IRS), so I'm inclined
to just abandon them.

[If you don't use any websites with the word "competitive" in the
link, then this e[-mail doesn't pertain to you and you can stop
reading now. I'm not providing the link here because there are issues
with whether promoting the websites on JewishGen groups is allowed;
today, I'm just trying to gather information >from existing users, if
there are any.]

To renew, in addition to paying a small amount of money, GoDaddy says
that I also have to agree to multiple really long agreements (terms of
service, privacy policy, data processing addendum, etc.) that I don't
really have time to read -- and it's not all reasonable stuff that you
can just accept without reading. You're allowing them to run up your
phone bill by telemarketing you, to auto-renew in future years at
whatever price they want, etc. So if someone needs my sites to remain
live, then I'm going to have to go through all the agreements to make
sure that I can live with everything that's in them (or switch to a
different company with more acceptable terms -- which could take me
even more time). If nobody's using them anyway, I can just let them
expire (or let one expire and sell the other's domain name).

I know no one is using the paid research services (because I haven't
gotten any money after the first year) or the competitive games that
involve contacting me (because no one has). The database of links to
Christine's Latvia pages is borderline useless, because so many of her
pages aren't online anymore, and because the content of her pages is
supposed to be on Jewishgen soon anyway. The database of links to
pages on the Latvian Archives website is potentially useful, but I
think that by putting the records on Jewishgen with links to the
Latvian Archives website, I've made my own websites redundant. That
basically leaves the noncompetitive practice games, which I don't
monitor, so I don't know if they're used (or even working).

Anyway, if I'm wrong and I have created a useful service, tell me soon.

Stephen Weinstein
stephenweinstein@yahoo.com
Camarillo, CA, USA


Re: Which DNA test? #dna

Michael Good
 

Hi Arnold,

As Daniel mentioned, you definitely want to do an autosomal test to
start. At Family Tree DNA, that would be the Family Finder test. The
MTDNA test has very limited use in Jewish genealogy.

Please note that you can use swabs to create a sample for a spit test
like Ancestry or 23andMe. Follow the instructions in this "How to do
an AncestryDNA test *without* spit" article at:

http://anotherteenmom.com/reviews/how-to-do-an-ancestrydna-test-without-spit/

I did this for a family member who can't spit enough for a test, and
her Ancestry.DNA test has worked great.

Ancestry has the largest autosomal DNA database and the best
relationship estimates for Jewish ancestry. So if possible - if you're
willing to do the artificial spit test, and Ancestry sells to your
country - it's best to test at Ancestry and then do a free transfer to
Family Tree DNA and MyHeritage. If that's not feasible, though, go
ahead with the Family Finder test.

Good luck in your research!

Best regards,

Michael Good
Los Altos, California, USA


DNA Research #DNA Re: Which DNA test? #dna

Michael Good
 

Hi Arnold,

As Daniel mentioned, you definitely want to do an autosomal test to
start. At Family Tree DNA, that would be the Family Finder test. The
MTDNA test has very limited use in Jewish genealogy.

Please note that you can use swabs to create a sample for a spit test
like Ancestry or 23andMe. Follow the instructions in this "How to do
an AncestryDNA test *without* spit" article at:

http://anotherteenmom.com/reviews/how-to-do-an-ancestrydna-test-without-spit/

I did this for a family member who can't spit enough for a test, and
her Ancestry.DNA test has worked great.

Ancestry has the largest autosomal DNA database and the best
relationship estimates for Jewish ancestry. So if possible - if you're
willing to do the artificial spit test, and Ancestry sells to your
country - it's best to test at Ancestry and then do a free transfer to
Family Tree DNA and MyHeritage. If that's not feasible, though, go
ahead with the Family Finder test.

Good luck in your research!

Best regards,

Michael Good
Los Altos, California, USA


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Alex Shapiro <alex@...>
 

There's no need to believe in legends. These days it's just enough to
make a DNA test which will clearly show your roots.
You might also want to contact the Jewish Museum in Riga, on 6 Skolas
Street. They have plenty of information on the origins of Latvian Jews,
without resorting to any legends.

Regarding the source of Lithuanian Jews, >from me conversations with the
expert on this issue, Rabbi Josef Radinsky of blessed memory, it seems
that Lithuanian Jews mostly came >from Poland, Russia, Latvia, Belarus
and... Persia (Iran).

Shana Tova,
Alexander David Shapiro
Houston, TX

My understanding is that the legends of Sephardic roots for Latvian
and Lithuanian Jews are of recent origin, likely late 19th century, as
part of the fad of inventing claims of Sephardic origin around that
time. I have not seen a single case with evidence before that time.
See also John M. Efron, German Jewry and the Allure of the Sephardic
(2015). Randy Schoenberg Los Angeles, CA


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Alex Shapiro <alex@...>
 

There's no need to believe in legends. These days it's just enough to
make a DNA test which will clearly show your roots.
You might also want to contact the Jewish Museum in Riga, on 6 Skolas
Street. They have plenty of information on the origins of Latvian Jews,
without resorting to any legends.

Regarding the source of Lithuanian Jews, >from me conversations with the
expert on this issue, Rabbi Josef Radinsky of blessed memory, it seems
that Lithuanian Jews mostly came >from Poland, Russia, Latvia, Belarus
and... Persia (Iran).

Shana Tova,
Alexander David Shapiro
Houston, TX

My understanding is that the legends of Sephardic roots for Latvian
and Lithuanian Jews are of recent origin, likely late 19th century, as
part of the fad of inventing claims of Sephardic origin around that
time. I have not seen a single case with evidence before that time.
See also John M. Efron, German Jewry and the Allure of the Sephardic
(2015). Randy Schoenberg Los Angeles, CA


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

My understanding is that the legends of Sephardic roots for Latvian and
Lithuanian Jews are of recent origin, likely late 19th century, as part
of the fad of inventing claims of Sephardic origin around that time. I
have not seen a single case with evidence before that time.

See also John M. Efron, German Jewry and the Allure of the Sephardic
(2015).

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

My understanding is that the legends of Sephardic roots for Latvian and
Lithuanian Jews are of recent origin, likely late 19th century, as part
of the fad of inventing claims of Sephardic origin around that time. I
have not seen a single case with evidence before that time.

See also John M. Efron, German Jewry and the Allure of the Sephardic
(2015).

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Re: Czech Holocaust Prisoners #general

tom
 

Based on what was done to the deportees >from Hungary, most were
probably never registered as "prisoners", because they were led
straight >from the rail cars to the gas chambers. Only the ones were
selected as suitable for slave labour were issued numbers and recorded.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Lande" <pdlande@starpower.net> wrote:

I am trying to determine the origin/basis of a number of pages, apparently
taken >from a book. The heading on the first page is Seznam csl. prislisniku
K.L.Dachau. The material consists of an extensive list of names with
additional information, e.g. Absolon Josef, farar, Lesna u Val Mezirci.
While religion is not given, some of the names indicate that they were
Jewish, others not. The mystery is compounded by the fact that most of
these names do not appear in Dachau records.

I would appreciate any suggestions as to the book >from which this list was
apparently taken, and why a "Dachau" list apparently contains many names of
persons who never entered Dachau.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Czech Holocaust Prisoners #general

tom
 

Based on what was done to the deportees >from Hungary, most were
probably never registered as "prisoners", because they were led
straight >from the rail cars to the gas chambers. Only the ones were
selected as suitable for slave labour were issued numbers and recorded.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Lande" <pdlande@starpower.net> wrote:

I am trying to determine the origin/basis of a number of pages, apparently
taken >from a book. The heading on the first page is Seznam csl. prislisniku
K.L.Dachau. The material consists of an extensive list of names with
additional information, e.g. Absolon Josef, farar, Lesna u Val Mezirci.
While religion is not given, some of the names indicate that they were
Jewish, others not. The mystery is compounded by the fact that most of
these names do not appear in Dachau records.

I would appreciate any suggestions as to the book >from which this list was
apparently taken, and why a "Dachau" list apparently contains many names of
persons who never entered Dachau.


Rabbi Mordekhai "Baal Halevushim" - Descendants in Turets #rabbinic

Alex Girshovich
 

Dear Group Mates,

I am working on my family roots, which led me to Rabbi Yosef of
Turets, near Nowvogrudok (today's Belarus). who was claimed to be the
5th generation of Rabbi Mordekhai JAFFE "Baal Halevushim".
[Source: Tidhar, D. (1952). Entsiklopedyah le-halutse ha-yishuv
u-vonav (Vol. 5, p. 2276). Retrieved from
http://www.tidhar.tourolib.org/tidhar/view/5/2276]

At this point, I am missing the continuous connection between the two
rabbis. Most probably, It was via R. Mordekhai's son Arye Leib. I
will be happy to receive any assistance or hints to resolve this brick
wall.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Mordekhai "Baal Halevushim" - Descendants in Turets #rabbinic

Alex Girshovich
 

Dear Group Mates,

I am working on my family roots, which led me to Rabbi Yosef of
Turets, near Nowvogrudok (today's Belarus). who was claimed to be the
5th generation of Rabbi Mordekhai JAFFE "Baal Halevushim".
[Source: Tidhar, D. (1952). Entsiklopedyah le-halutse ha-yishuv
u-vonav (Vol. 5, p. 2276). Retrieved from
http://www.tidhar.tourolib.org/tidhar/view/5/2276]

At this point, I am missing the continuous connection between the two
rabbis. Most probably, It was via R. Mordekhai's son Arye Leib. I
will be happy to receive any assistance or hints to resolve this brick
wall.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem, Israel


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Alex Shapiro <alex@...>
 

Dear Jeff,

Many Jews in Latvia, like part of my family, are of Portuguese origin.
Regardless of the fact that Latvia was at one stage under Russian
control, there are many Jews, including Russian Jews, that have Spanish
- Portuguese roots. At one time the basement prayer hall in the Riga
synagogue was allocated for Sephardic and Hasiddic style prayers. If
you're really curious about the background of your family I'd suggest
making the DNA test that will show where your family roots came from.

Shana Tova - have a good and blessed New Year,
Alexander David Shapiro
Member of the Sephardic congregation Torah Va Chessed in Houston

^^^
From: Jeff Canin <jeffcanin07@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:29:10 +0200

...I'm trying to determine if my
family in Latvia could have originally come >from Spain or Portugal
after the Jewish populations there were expelled in the 1500s. My
grandfather, Joseph Chanin (Hebrew spelling would be chet nun yud nun)
was born in Varaklani around 1872. The English spelling for his name
could be Hanin, Kanin, Khanin or Canin. Joe always said he was
Sephardic and the family originally came >from Portugal, but I can't
find any evidence that Jews >from Portugal made it to Latvia. His
father was Mendel Chanin and grandfather, born around 1828 was Shmul
Ber (Samuel) Chanin. Are the Latvian Jews generally considered to be
Sephardic?...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Alex Shapiro <alex@...>
 

Dear Jeff,

Many Jews in Latvia, like part of my family, are of Portuguese origin.
Regardless of the fact that Latvia was at one stage under Russian
control, there are many Jews, including Russian Jews, that have Spanish
- Portuguese roots. At one time the basement prayer hall in the Riga
synagogue was allocated for Sephardic and Hasiddic style prayers. If
you're really curious about the background of your family I'd suggest
making the DNA test that will show where your family roots came from.

Shana Tova - have a good and blessed New Year,
Alexander David Shapiro
Member of the Sephardic congregation Torah Va Chessed in Houston

^^^
From: Jeff Canin <jeffcanin07@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:29:10 +0200

...I'm trying to determine if my
family in Latvia could have originally come >from Spain or Portugal
after the Jewish populations there were expelled in the 1500s. My
grandfather, Joseph Chanin (Hebrew spelling would be chet nun yud nun)
was born in Varaklani around 1872. The English spelling for his name
could be Hanin, Kanin, Khanin or Canin. Joe always said he was
Sephardic and the family originally came >from Portugal, but I can't
find any evidence that Jews >from Portugal made it to Latvia. His
father was Mendel Chanin and grandfather, born around 1828 was Shmul
Ber (Samuel) Chanin. Are the Latvian Jews generally considered to be
Sephardic?...


Prerov Jewish Cemetery: New Gideon Klein memorial #austria-czech

david.fligg@...
 

SIG members may be interested to know that a memorial plaque was
dedicated to the musician Gideon Klein on 12 September in the Jewish
Cemetery in Prerov. The Chair of the Federation of Jewish Communities,
Petr Papousek, recited Tehillim and El Maleh Rachamim, and local civic
leaders were in attendance and spoke. A commemorative concert was
later held. Photographs can be found on the town's website, here:
https://m.prerov.eu/cs/o-prerove/fotografie-z-prerova/fotografie-z-akci/mesto-prerov-2019/gido-se-vraci-domu-pripominka-100-vyroci-narozeni-hudebniho-skladatele-gideona-kleina.html

Dr. David Fligg
Leeds, UK
david.fligg@gmail.com


Gesher Galicia at Gratz College (Philadelphia metropolitan area) #austria-czech

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Join us for the event hosted by Gratz College, the oldest independent
and pluralistic college for Jewish studies in North America. The
program will feature the talk by Andrew Zalewski, Gesher Galicia board
member.

Title: "Jewish Galicia: Living Together and Apart"
Thursday, October 3, 2019
Gratz College, 7605 Old York Road, Melrose Park, PA 19027
12:15 p.m. to 1:45 p.m.

To register, please follow the link:
https://www.gratz.edu/event/lunch-learn-jewish-galicia

SYNOPSIS
Join us as we =E2=80=9Center=E2=80=9D 19th century homes to meet the Jewish
inhabitants of Galicia (home to the largest Jewish community in the
Austro-Hungarian Empire). Gesher Galicia=E2=80=99s extensive archival
collections, Austrian censuses, postcards and maps, together with
newspaper clippings and pamphlets, bring to life Jewish presence in
cities, such as Lw=C3=B3w and Krak=C3=B3w, and other, smaller towns. Market
squares, streets, and schools=E2=80=94 situated close to synagogues and
churches=E2=80=94provided shared spaces for Jews, Poles, and Ukrainians.
Reconstruct life of shared spaces and the richness of the cultural
heritage of the former Galicia.

SPEAKER
Andrew Zalewski is vice president of Gesher Galicia and author of two
books on Austrian Galicia. Andrew is a frequent speaker at Jewish
genealogical societies and cultural and academic institutions in the
US and abroad. His talks focus on Galicia, with unique records
providing a background for his description of a large Jewish community
that once lived there.


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Suchomasty 10 #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi All,

I belong to the Czech genealogy Facebook group where someone today
asked about records for a family named Ferda in house #10 in
Suchomasty in Beroun Kreis. She provided a link to a Roman Catholic
ledger page at http://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz which definitely seems to
indicate that the Ferdas were living in Suchomasty 10 around the year
1787.

What is interesting for me is that I have records for a Jewish family
- Hecht - living at Suchomasty #10 some years later (around 1860).
This got me wondering when the Hechts moved there and if somewhere
there aren't records of real estate sales that would be of interest to
genealogists. Can anyone point me to them?

Thanks,

Philip Moravcik


interpretation help #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi, Can anyone make head or tails of the notation on my ancestor
Isak/Israel Schwartz' birth matrik to be found at:
http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/241/reprodukce/?zaznamId=375958&reproId=436895

It looks like they crossed out his surname and put "Weil" - his
mother's maiden name.
Any help would be appreciated.


Philip Moravcik

You can't buy happiness, but you can buy coffee.


and another one for his sister #austria-czech

morav@...
 

A few pages later there is some similar mysterious notation on the
birth matrik for Isak/Israel's sister Barbora. Once again "Schwartz"
has been crossed out and "Weil" (mother's maiden name_ written in.

http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/241/reprodukce/?zaznamId=375958&reproId=436897

If you can figure out what was going on with this family I'd be very
interested to find out.

Thanks again.


Philip Moravcik

You can't buy happiness, but you can buy coffee.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Prerov Jewish Cemetery: New Gideon Klein memorial #austria-czech

david.fligg@...
 

SIG members may be interested to know that a memorial plaque was
dedicated to the musician Gideon Klein on 12 September in the Jewish
Cemetery in Prerov. The Chair of the Federation of Jewish Communities,
Petr Papousek, recited Tehillim and El Maleh Rachamim, and local civic
leaders were in attendance and spoke. A commemorative concert was
later held. Photographs can be found on the town's website, here:
https://m.prerov.eu/cs/o-prerove/fotografie-z-prerova/fotografie-z-akci/mesto-prerov-2019/gido-se-vraci-domu-pripominka-100-vyroci-narozeni-hudebniho-skladatele-gideona-kleina.html

Dr. David Fligg
Leeds, UK
david.fligg@gmail.com

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